Lucha Underground: Season 3

[DaveWadding]

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/24/Lucha_Underground_Season_3.jpg

Season 3 starts this week. Shit will go down. Post about it here.

[Anybody Thrilla]

So far, so good. Marty the Moth is becoming one of my favorites. I also really like the Underground Worldwide stable.

[DaveWadding]

if you need a way to catch up/ see what the hype is about with Lucha Underground, go90 (Verizon's streaming video app) just added the 1st half of season 2. It's free to anyone, just search the App/Play Store, and you can Cast via Chromecast/Roku/Fire Stick

[DaveWadding]

Pretty good start to the season. Nothing overly spectacular, but solid shit all around. I did notice that Pentagon looks like a monster in comparison to Rey Rey.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I've been meaning to check it out. I had this peak level of interest after Ultima Lucha and the start of Season 2. I'm finding that interest has waned considerably. I'm not sure if it was the news of all the injuries, talent leaving or Lucha Underground generally being douches about talent leaving. How did the end of the season go?

[DaveWadding]

End of season was good. Rey Mysetrio came in and tore it up. New season is great too. Never liked Cage or Texano for a long time, then my feelings for both guys grew and I felt that it would be awesome at Ultima Lucha Dos and now they're doing the Ultimate Opportunity, which is so great.

[Anybody Thrilla]

Cage is amazing, really.

[DaveWadding]

The stuff he can do at his size is pretty ridiculous.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

I love how you can see that Kanyon is Cage's trainer just by watching him. Totally different wrestler, but just that innovative style.

Really shocked WWE haven't grabbed him yet.

[DaveWadding]

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[DaveWadding]

he seems happy and is banging Melissa Santos on the side. Sounds like the good life to me.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

I'm surprised they haven't gone for her too. She's much better than anyone in WWE.

[Emperor Smeat]

I'm surprised they haven't gone for her too. She's much better than anyone in WWE.

They've tried at least once or twice to get her but either LU pays her more or she'd be in the same situation like Prince Puma where whoever signs her, can't have her on tv till the end of Season 3 at the earliest.

[Anybody Thrilla]

I was reading up on that some time ago, and it appears that Cage did spend some time in WWE developmental somewhere or other. Not sure how he didn't get more of a shot.

[Anybody Thrilla]

Didn't know he was trained by Kanyon, but he definitely did drop a "WHO BETTER THAN CAGE?" on the most recent episode. Makes sense now.

[DaveWadding]

I was reading up on that some time ago, and it appears that Cage did spend some time in WWE developmental somewhere or other. Not sure how he didn't get more of a shot.

I read he was in FCW about the time that EC3 and a bunch of others were (Wyatt, Dallas, Justin Gabriel/PJ Black)

[Mr. Nerfect]

He was Kris Logan in FCW. I don't know why he was released. He called them "idiots" for letting him go, but he might just be working. He says he's open to going back. I didn't see much of his work, but they might have just wanted him to go and get some more seasoning. That seems weird, since they were producing a clone factory at that point in time, and even now, they say they want people trained properly, but the guys that carry NXT all have experience in many different styles.

If I were him, I'd send feelers to the WWE when my contract with LU/AAA is up. He reminds me of a good Ryback.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Didn't know he was trained by Kanyon, but he definitely did drop a "WHO BETTER THAN CAGE?" on the most recent episode. Makes sense now.

Only just caught up because there's what too much wrestling, but yeah, that made me smile.

Even though it's in the early establishing stories phase for the season, I think it's top quality right out of the gate. Like that Ivelyse and Katrina already have a match set for the season finale, there's tension in the Worldwide Underground and we haven't even got to Paul London yet. There's not a person on the roster who sticks out as making me want to fast forward, which is astounding.

Mil was the only guy I didn't like for the longest time as he's just a slow lumbering hoss, but once he got going with the brawls in grave consequences and him and Matanza going through the roof, I loved him. Marty the Moth is great too after that WMD match.

From top to bottom, the best hour of wrestling on TV still. Great roster, great matches and the storyline and production are top notch. Still laughed at Honkey being a random cop in the jail.

[DaveWadding]

Pentagon Dark is the best, I swear.

In this ring, I don't even respect my own mother, because I'm Pentagon Dark Y CERO MIEDOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[KIRA]

I Marty was brilliant just brilliant. I also love how in the LU male female in ring encounters are treated so casually its easy to get used to and they do a good job of making The likes of Sexy Star look more than capable of delivering beat downs

Could gush about this show forever

Then again this is the company that made me like Ezekiel Jackson so not too surprised as what they manage to pull off anymore just enjoying it

[Blonde Moment]

I Marty was brilliant just brilliant. I also love how in the LU male female in ring encounters are treated so casually its easy to get used to and they do a good job of making The likes of Sexy Star look more than capable of delivering beat downs

Could gush about this show forever

Then again this is the company that made me like Ezekiel Jackson so not too surprised as what they manage to pull off anymore just enjoying it

They have no issues making everyone look as good as they can. ZEveryone seems to get a moment.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I didn't realize that Cheerleader Melissa was working for them. That is cool. She is wonderful.

[Emperor Smeat]

I didn't realize that Cheerleader Melissa was working for them. That is cool. She is wonderful.

Yeah she was involved in the Marty vs Sexy Star feud last season. Ended with a really good I Quit match between her and Star.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Sexy Star seems like a real trooper from what I've seen. I was a bit annoyed the WWE passed her up a few years ago.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

THE DAREWOLF PJ Black has broken both of his ankles base jumping.

Oops.

[Anybody Thrilla]

Oh shit, Cheerleader Melissa is Mariposa?

[thecc]

What are some good Matanza matches I should check out? I've seen a few Jeff Cobb matches in PWG and he's quickly become one of my new favorites.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Huh, I didn't know Solomon Crowe had left WWE. Sweet to see him in Lucha.

[DaveWadding]

What are some good Matanza matches I should check out? I've seen a few Jeff Cobb matches in PWG and he's quickly become one of my new favorites.

Matanza vs. Mil Muertes

[KIRA]

So Jim Cornette hates LU with a passion he specifically points out that Sexy Star beating male wrestlers is stupid and ridiculous.

we can't be friends anymore

[DaveWadding]

That's because Sexy Star is the most overrated luchador on the show.

[Anybody Thrilla]

She's no The Mack, I'll tell you that.

[DaveWadding]

Everyone loves The Mack. Everyone.

[Anybody Thrilla]

As they should.

[DaveWadding]

It's been 13 weeks since we've seen King Cuerno. I am afraid he's gone forever.

[Emperor Smeat]

Think he left the company during last season's tapings. More due to LU's co-owner Mexican promotion AAA recent money problems and horrible management than anything LU related itself.

[DaveWadding]

He's still performing in AAA.

[Emperor Smeat]

Either he must have reconsidered recently or maybe it was just from LU he left. Don't think he was involved in any of the tapings for this season.

LU has a similar problem with at least 2 other stars after this season with one already confirmed gone due to retirement.

[DaveWadding]

I read that Cuerno was invited to the CWC and AAA wouldn't let him go. I think I would have died.

[DaveWadding]

This week's ep was so good. the tag match was so good.

And the triple threat with Pentagon/Chavo/Rey Are you kidding me? Awesome.

[Anybody Thrilla]

I read that Cuerno was invited to the CWC and AAA wouldn't let him go. I think I would have died.

That would have been tight.

At least they sort of wrapped his story up in a way where it makes sense for him to be gone, or he could come back some day feasibly.

[DaveWadding]

HUGE Lucha Underground News today. All glory to Smeat.

Lucha Underground is now working on house shows on 10/23 in Phoenix, 10/30 in Houston an 11/5 in San Diego, which is something doing a show on two or three weeks notice. All shows are expected to have free admission, with Rey Mysterio Jr. and Prince Puma booked as the top stars on the shows. All they key top talent has been contacted but not all will be on every show. The plan is if the shows go well, they will do a real tour after the end of season four.


9 days away. I will come back to you hopefully with a full show report and a fucking bad ass Pentagon Dark t-shirt. and hopefully a King Cuerno sighting.

[Innovator]

Dave Wadding has cero miedo

[DaveWadding]

CERO PINCHE MIEDO

[Anybody Thrilla]

That's awesome. I wonder what the crowds will be like when they're not clearly being told what to do.

[DaveWadding]

All I will be doing is chanting "Cero Miedo" and "Where's King Cuerno?"

[DaveWadding]

Joseph Q. RoXer texted me that this event is occurring at the Arizona State Fair. This shit is for real happening. Cero Pinche Miedo.

[DaveWadding]

Information for all 3 events was posted on Facebook. 2 shows at the Fair this weekend. I'm definitely going to try to get into both.

[DaveWadding]

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CERO PINCHE MIEDO

[Emperor Smeat]

Season 4 (if it happens) could end up having Worldwide Underground getting disbanded or be changed since Jack Evans was recently fired by AAA who co-owns LU. Also possible he could end up rejoining the company prior to taping since he's had past history of being released and then later rehired by AAA.

https://www.reddit.com/r/SquaredCircle/comments/58tv00/according_to_this_article_in_spanish_jack_evans/

[DaveWadding]

Jack Evans wrestled at the live show I went to. Sounds like he might not have been fired.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Damn, the Texano/Cage angle is heating up. Dario needs one to be a host body.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

I love that they edit in guitar noises when the Worldwide Underground air guitars. Even in-ring.

[DaveWadding]

Lucha Underground En Vivo!


12 pm show:

We showed up early to make sure we got in. It was outside at the State Fair and it was hot as fuck.

1st match was Jack Evans vs. Son of Havoc. Jack Evans was hilarious and cut a promo where he called Havoc a hobo. The top rope broke in the middle which was absurd and hilarious. Havoc went over.

2nd was Taya vs. Ivelisse vs. Mariposa. They pulled out some ridiculously cool shit. triple submissions and the like. Ivelisse won with a Dragon Sleeper. Taya's booty is fucking gigantic and perfect in real life.

last match was Johnny Copa Mundial vs. They Call Him Cage. Falls apparently counted anywhere, but there was only like one pin attempt outside the ring. They beat the shit out of each other with a stop sign and a trash can. Johnny Culo won after Taya interfered.

Here's a few pics from the first match:

http://i.imgur.com/Wlyi2s6.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/EI4URnr.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/VzCpbqD.jpg

[Emperor Smeat]

Jack Evans wrestled at the live show I went to. Sounds like he might not have been fired.
Wonder if he was just fired from AAA but gets to stay or finish off whatever commitments he has left with LU.

Newest edition of the Observer Newsletter confirmed he's been fired but said nothing about how it impacts his LU stuff. Then again Fenix also left AAA a while ago but got to keep his job in LU.

[DaveWadding]

3 pm show:

1st match was Drago vs. Aerostar vs. Australian Suicide (who I know from AAA but has not ever been on LU) vs. Hector Garza Jr. (who I've never seen or heard of). It was a very good exciting, high flying match. Lots of action on the outside of the ring and dudes flying everywhere. Drago won with the Blockbuster.

2nd was Ricky Mandel vs. "the Tollman" Kevin Kross. I've never heard of Kross, but I guess that some of you might have. He was huge and crushed Mandel.

Last was Pentagon vs. Mil Muertes. They beat the shit out of each other. Catrina was nowhere to be found, though. Pentagon won with the stomp.

here's RoXer's pics:

https://imgur.com/gallery/zT49s

[Anybody Thrilla]

Holy shit, I had no idea that Son of Havoc was Matt Cross. I first saw him as M-Dogg 20 on those Backyard Wrestling videos back in the day. Crazy transformation.

[Anybody Thrilla]

He got cut from Tough Enough too.

[DaveWadding]

The matches for live show in San Diego were announced today and KING CUERNO LIVES. He's wrestling the Mack in a match that will definitely be dope as fuck.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Just started the latest Lucha and goddamn, I can't believe I care about Cortez. It's so nice having a show like this where everyone has a little story.

Dario is drinking a lot in character and giggling. This is great.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Mil is in a suit and it's not explained why #Heel

[Anybody Thrilla]

Probably because he wasn't scheduled to compete and he's just a sharp dresser normally.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Probably because he wasn't scheduled to compete and he's just a sharp dresser normally.

Nothing like the undead in a suit and a mask.

Either way, Pima/Mil next week is a Grave Consequences match

[Anybody Thrilla]

Don't forget about Famous B and Mascarita Sagrada in a Believer's Whatever They Called It match as well!

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Don't forget about Famous B and Mascarita Sagrada in a Believer's Whatever They Called It match as well!

Oh yeah, weapons or some shit.

Rey V Chavo Loser Leaves Lucha was fun as hell.

Great match, then Chavo Fucking Classic gets involved and threatens to hit Rey with a chair... But hits Chavo to give him the win by DQ. Dario calls out the ref for forgetting how much he likes violence and it continues. Rey gets the win

[Anybody Thrilla]

I just love how every character at least has some sort of direction.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Watching now and this Masquiritas/Famous B match is much better than it has any right to be.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Brenda got Creampied.

[Anybody Thrilla]

Yeah, I found myself being way too into that. Good for them.

Creampie line was hilarious.

[Anybody Thrilla]

So crazy that I was just sitting around a bonfire with Sami Callahan a couple months ago, and now he's on Lucha Underground.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

So crazy that I was just sitting around a bonfire with Sami Callahan a couple months ago, and now he's on Lucha Underground.

He looked better in one match than he did in all of NXT too.

Thought Ivelyse was legit injured until Sami carried her out too.

Also weird that they just took a bunch of top talent out of Aztec Warfare. The roster has so much depth now though that they can.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Man that was such a good episode. Puma going in seems to make the most sense as he won't have to job in Aztec Warfare and the look on Vampiros face made it look like that's what he wanted. Probably bring him back from the dead and bring out a darker Puma.

[Emperor Smeat]

:lol: at the bag of popcorn being the same size as Mascarita during the Famous B vs Mascarita match.

Puma-Muertes Grave Consequences match was really good.

[DaveWadding]

I'm hyped for Aztec Warfare this week. Also went back yesterday and watched a few of the most brutal Lucha matches with my wife. We watched WMD, No Mas, and then the Cero Miedo match.

[Anybody Thrilla]

The family that bleeds together breeds together.

[What Would Kevin Do?]

Man that was such a good episode. Puma going in seems to make the most sense as he won't have to job in Aztec Warfare and the look on Vampiros face made it look like that's what he wanted. Probably bring him back from the dead and bring out a darker Puma.

That's what I'm assuming, that we're going to get a darker, more aggressive Puma, Dark Puma, etc, who will destroy Mil, and be directed at Pentagon.

So we're going to have two dark/evil badasses, Dario's god infused brother, a second god infused badass (either Texano or Cage), two semi-immortal women (one of which is essentially death), and Mil, who is death's weapon...

AND WE ARE GETTING AN ILLUMINATI LIZARD KING!

I fucking love this show.

[DaveWadding]

Aztec Warfare 3 is tonight. It's like the Rumble when they actually tried to tell multiple stories in one match.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Aztec Warfare 3 is tonight. It's like the Rumble when they actually tried to tell multiple stories in one match.

Yup, all three Aztec Warfares have been better than over a decade of Royal Rumbles. Not a big Sexy Star fan though, but the individual moments made up for it. Angelicos return was as epic as it should be.

[Emperor Smeat]

Some potential Good/Bad news regarding a Season 4 for LU.

Nobody has said anything officially about the filming of Lucha Undeground season four. At one point it was talked about for a November start and then a January start. Right now the talent is of the impression filming will start in late February, but nobody is certain

[KIRA]

I had high hopes and was not disappointed awesome show

Fave things/notes :Joey Ryan
NINJAS!


They beat the shit outta Matansa he's a Slaher Killer tho basically.


See what happens with guys like Mundo when they can cut lose?

[DaveWadding]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLeRog1uDMw


Watch Aztec Warfare 3 before they take it down.....

[DaveWadding]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NeaMtggbzDA

This week's ep...

[Emperor Smeat]

Paul London being a twisted Mad Hatter type guy feels like what Adam Rose should have become when he was feuding with the Rabbit or for his heel turn in the WWE.

[DaveWadding]

Yeah, the whole Rabbit Tribe thing is basically Adam Rose on psychedelics.

[Anybody Thrilla]

I dig the Rabbit Tribe from what I've seen. Also, that Killshot/Fox match was insane. Also, really happy that Mundo is champ. Love this show.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Yup, everything righted itself from the Aztec Warfare match. Dario will probably give Matanza his rematch in a couple of weeks I'd guess so that'll be interesting.

Rabbit Tribe also continued the proud tradition of debut losses.

[Anybody Thrilla]

It would have been a lot more awkward if they won the Trios Titles on the first night, I think. Striker did a good job of explaining why they were there in the first place.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

It would have been a lot more awkward if they won the Trios Titles on the first night, I think. Striker did a good job of explaining why they were there in the first place.

Totally, I like the idea of debut losses anyway. They're coming into a new, hostile environment and don't know how to deal with it straight away. You need to be a monster the level of Matanza to get anywhere on your first night.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Well that was a lot of fun. That third chick of the Lotus Triad is something else, holy shit. Love the ending too with Vamp ressurecting Puma.

[Anybody Thrilla]

I was nervous that I wouldn't be able to get into that many Pentagon matches against unknowns, but I enjoyed that immensely. Good work, Lucha Underground.

[DaveWadding]

http://wrestlingreviews.net/video/R6jYoJA3.html

[DaveWadding]

The 3 chicks in the Lotus Triad are supposed to be the 3 best women's wrestlers in the world.

Doku = Kairi Hojo
Yurei = Mayu Iwatani
Hitokari = Io Shirai

I know WWE has been trying to get them to come over for sometime now.

[KIRA]

I was nervous that I wouldn't be able to get into that many Pentagon matches against unknowns, but I enjoyed that immensely. Good work, Lucha Underground.

That was fun wasn't it

mooks getting progressively harder

Pentegons comeuppance was great

[DaveWadding]

I dunno about y'all, but I'm pretty stoked about this new storyline going on with Drago and Matanza Unleashed.

[DaveWadding]

Good week this week. I thought the first Battle of the Bulls match was better than the 2nd.Crane,Fox, Killshot and Mariposa did some really great insane shit.

Drago vs. Kobra Moon is so good with the introduction of Lord Pindar and the Luchasaurus. Seems like they're well set up for a Trios tourney with the champs, Worldwide Underground, White Rabbit, The Snake Tribe. I'm sure they'll have a few other teams going.

The 2nd Bulls match was fun in the way that LU likes to fuck around with characters. I was really going for Angelicoor Havoc, but they won't ever let it go without some shenanigans.

[Emperor Smeat]

Was surprised nobody got seriously hurt from the Tower of Doom spot onto seated chairs during the 1st Battle of the Bulls match. One of the chairs had the legs sticking straight up but they all just missed it once the Tower move happened.

[Rollermacka]

Lol, the "Giant" snake guy is the one who cried about Bill Demott when he got fired from the WWE....

[DaveWadding]

The Cage spot from this week was so filthy. Unbelievable shit.

Really looking forward to Cage vs. Texano IV and possibly V.

Steel cage match was pretty good. Loved the backstage segments this week also.

[DaveWadding]

Verizon updated their go90 app to have all of the aired episodes from Season 3 so far. If you happen to have Verizon.

[DaveWadding]

BRIAN CAGE IS ROBO THOR

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Fell behind again, just caught up with Robo Thor. Cage wins the right to be posessed by a god via Steiner Screwdriver. Fantastic.

[Phenomenal 1]

Pentagon Dark beats Johnny Mundo for LU title in midseason finale or after they pickup

[DaveWadding]

Damn, really hate that they decided to go with this mid-season break. Going to have to start watching some other stuff. Like... Idk. 205 Live?

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Just watch some old stuff on the Network. Been going through Rumble marathon.

[Simple Fan]

Bump, fixing to watch episodes 3 &4. and the other thread was season 1.

[Simple Fan]

The WMD match was good, not really caught up on any of the storylines but I love the presentation.

[Simple Fan]

Really like Tia. Reminds me of Alexa Bliss but I think she's a better wrestler though.

[Simple Fan]

Good couple of episodes, wrestling was great. Glad to have El Rey I just hope it stays.

[DaveWadding]

Bump because it's coming back from hiatus next week and I have a boner that could cut through diamonds like butter.

[DaveWadding]

IT'S BACK.

[DaveWadding]

There's no time for pants.

[Anybody Thrilla]

Mundo and Mack put on some bangers.

Also, fuck that spoiler up there. What's the fucking point of it?

[DaveWadding]

Idk.

[DaveWadding]

Pentagon is going to break Argenis' arm again!

[DaveWadding]

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[Emperor Smeat]

Love the idea of a GM/boss having a cup dedicated to himself just for the sake of it.

Only thing missing to make it perfect was the trophy being a mini Golden Cueto instead of a regular cup.

[Anybody Thrilla]

So we're just not gonna talk about Cage?

[Destor]

Best look on the indies.

[Anybody Thrilla]

Sure, but I was more referring to what happened on the most recent episode.

[Destor]

I try not to watch the product if I can help it

[Anybody Thrilla]

I know

[DaveWadding]

Cage is pretty much the best thing going in Lucha except for Pentagon Dark. I hope he gets a title run in the near future.

[Rollermacka]

So we're just not gonna talk about Cage?

Got to meet Cage at an indie show recently..... I will admit he's got more muscle mass than me, BUT the Titan is taller :p

[DaveWadding]

Paul Titan is Luchasaurus?

[Anybody Thrilla]

So are we not gonna talk about Marty the Moth?

[DaveWadding]

Bro, you gotta give me a chance to download and watch the episodes.

[Anybody Thrilla]

Am I the only one watching as they air? Marty the Moth followed me on Twitter AND liked one of my tweets.

[DaveWadding]

I have to watch them on a one day delay. That's all.

[Anybody Thrilla]

Ah, not bad. Lemme know when you are ready to talk about Cage (a week ago) or Marty the Moth (2 days ago).

[Emperor Smeat]

So are we not gonna talk about Marty the Moth?

He's been really great pulling off the creep gimmick.

[DaveWadding]

Ah, not bad. Lemme know when you are ready to talk about Cage (a week ago) or Marty the Moth (2 days ago).

Marty is basically the best semi-incestuous serial killer ever.

[DaveWadding]

Feel like they could do a whole movie just on Marty and Mariposa.

[DaveWadding]

They finally got their shit together and opened up an eBay store for their merch and added a bunch of new stuff, including character specific items.

I will own the Pentagon Dark shirt.

http://m.ebay.com/sch/i.html?sid=luchaunderground&isRefine=true&_pgn=1

[DaveWadding]

Aaaaaaand Drago and King Fucking Cuerno (as his normal gimmick, El Hijo de Fantasma) were announced to be performing on Slammiversary. I heard they wanted it to be Drago and Aerostar, but Aerostar couldn't make it.

[Corporate CockSnogger]

Caught up on the latest episodes. Can't blame Marty for being obsessed with Melissa Santos. I started following her on Instagram and fell a little bit in love. Her and Cage seem to be a pretty sweet couple tho.

Have WWE not made any approaches for her? She seems like she'd be 100% better than any ring announcer they currently have?

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Caught up on the latest episodes. Can't blame Marty for being obsessed with Melissa Santos. I started following her on Instagram and fell a little bit in love. Her and Cage seem to be a pretty sweet couple tho.

Have WWE not made any approaches for her? She seems like she'd be 100% better than any ring announcer they currently have?

I asked that before as well as surprise they've not shown an interest in Cage and apparently those Lucha Underground contracts are pretty watertight. They've been interested in Puma for ages.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Ah, here we go:

Dave Meltzer of The Wrestling Observer recently noted that he had the chance to examine a Lucha Underground talent contract, and the deals appear to be pretty one-sided.
Talent contracts are usually for 7 seasons, and Lucha Underground star Son of Havoc actually noted this once in a promo. The catch, however, is that Lucha Underground can decide how long a season is, and can make them last as long as they want, as there is no set number of episodes per season.

So as long as they keep making the show, no one is going to WWE.

[Emperor Smeat]

Caught up on the latest episodes. Can't blame Marty for being obsessed with Melissa Santos. I started following her on Instagram and fell a little bit in love. Her and Cage seem to be a pretty sweet couple tho.

Have WWE not made any approaches for her? She seems like she'd be 100% better than any ring announcer they currently have?

They tried once or twice before. More likely they grab her once LU falls apart considering their dire financial state.

Even with Hasney's post above, its been presumed even if talents can get out of a LU contract, they still get hit with a 6 month no compete clause that takes effect after a current season ends for promotions with their own tv show.

[DaveWadding]

Lucha Underground will never fall apart. Season 4 is supposed to be filming soon.

[Corporate CockSnogger]

I don't get why it's not more popular. It's so much easier to digest and more interesting than the boring WWE. Pretty much every clip I've seen of WWE in the last few years has been dire.

[DaveWadding]

El Rey is kind of an obscure channel. I'm just hoping that they'll keep adding seasons to Netflix after they air.

[DaveWadding]

I'm amazed that they first and second season threads are dead already, given that 85% of TPWW posters are American and bitch about WWE at every opportunity.

[Emperor Smeat]

I don't get why it's not more popular. It's so much easier to digest and more interesting than the boring WWE. Pretty much every clip I've seen of WWE in the last few years has been dire.

Besides what Dave said about El Rey, its also somewhat hard for them to maintain momentum because of the long breaks in between seasons and wrestling in general being on a big down period for tv.

Them taking an abrupt mid-season break was pretty devastating in terms of viewers since something around 50% of their Season 3 audience didn't return for the mid-season premiere.

[DaveWadding]

Besides what Dave said about El Rey, its also somewhat hard for them to maintain momentum because of the long breaks in between seasons and wrestling in general being on a big down period for tv.

Them taking an abrupt mid-season break was pretty devastating in terms of viewers since something around 50% of their Season 3 audience didn't return for the mid-season premiere.

Part of that was also due to some cable providers listing the new episode as a rerun instead of marking it as a new one. The 2nd ep back really bounced back as far as viewers.

[DaveWadding]

Went from 101k total for the first week back, to 139k the 2nd, and now at 174k for the 3rd.

Number is the total of people who watched either the first run or the immediate replay.

[DaveWadding]

I never understood Solomon Crowe in NXT. To me he was basically a jobber and everyone was saying how great he was, but it was my first exposure to him and it was a disappointment.

As Jeremiah Crane in Lucha Underground? I fucking get it. Holy shit, dude. Crane is a damn star and that match with Killshot was amazing and fucking brutal. Goddamn.

[Emperor Smeat]

Think he ended up being a classic case of the WWE not knowing what to do with him and by the time they had something, bigger and more interesting names started to show up in NXT. Spent almost a year just doing house show type stuff till they could come up with something meaningful for him.

The hacker gimmick had some potential but they never really went anywhere with it.

[DaveWadding]

Gonna reup my DirecTV NOW this week for a free month so I can watch EN VIVO. And maybe watch some NJPW on AXS.

[DaveWadding]

Kind of a meh episode this week, all things considered. Next week should be AMAZING though with Round 2 starting and the stories they've set up so far.

[DaveWadding]

Just finished up the episode live. 3 good matches. I cant wait for Crane and Muertes next round or to see where this Marty/Melissa/Fenix thing goes heading into the latter part of the season. Marty is a hardcore creepy bastard.

[DaveWadding]

Sweet new interview with the President of El Rey about LU:

http://www.espn.com/wwe/story/_/id/19574354/daniel-tibbets-present-future-lucha-underground


Thursday, June 8, 2017
Daniel Tibbets comments on the past, present and future of Lucha Underground
By Michael Wonsover


Lucha Underground is so good at everything that makes wrestling great -- the in-ring athleticism, over-the-top storylines and emotion-evoking characters -- that sometimes it's easy to forget the group of established names in the television and movie industry who have never worked in wrestling that keep the machine running behind the scenes.

Famed writer-director Robert Rodriguez is the leader of that group as the owner of the El Rey Network. Producers Mark Burnett, Eric Van Wagenen and Anthony Jensen add even more credibility with their successful track records in the television industry. And as of a year ago, Daniel Tibbets can now be added to that list.

Tibbets left his position as the chief content officer at Machinima to take over as president of the El Rey Network in May of 2016. As president, Tibbets has been heavily involved in the ongoings of Lucha Underground, which is the highest-rated show on the El Rey Network. Tibbets, who has never worked on a professional wrestling show before, has brought a more traditional TV show approach to Lucha Underground.

Tibbets recently spoke to ESPN.com about Lucha Underground and many of the recent topics surrounding the show.

ESPN.com: What interested you about the El Rey Network when you took over as president last year?

DT: "It's a story I actually tell often to people because I was the chief content officer at Machinima. One day I got a call, it was really kind of a cold call honestly, which asked the question would I be interested in meeting about the El Rey position and I was taken back. It was honestly just simple because I had gotten several calls in that time period and I said no to everything. I wasn't interested in doing anything else, but what was fascinating about El Rey is the brand. It's a cable-slash-entertainment brand that means something to its audience, to its fan base. To be proud of your legacy and heritage. That's what El Rey means. People to this day walk up to me and they say, 'I am El Rey' because it has meaning to them. When I heard that as an entertainment company in today's space where you're competing for so many different eyeballs, the most important thing you could be is a brand to your consumer base. Machinima was that in the gaming community and El Rey is that from an escapist entertainment, Robert Rodriguez style of storytelling. Certainly Lucha Underground is a perfect example of that type of program."

As the president of the El Rey Network, how involved are you with Lucha Underground?

DT: "I would say very involved. Of course the series was greenlit and developed before I joined El Rey. When you look at what El Rey is as a network -- Robert Rodriguez, it's octane, it's escapist entertainment, it's cinematic -- you look at all the developments that Robert built when he built this network and you look at Lucha Underground and you can see the influences of Robert certainly from that cinematic storytelling that he is famous for mixed with Mark Burnett and his producing techniques and capabilities. I think it came together beautifully in a show that is really unique and really could only be on El Rey and what El Rey is. From that perspective we continue to have a great partnership."

Lucha Underground is different from other wrestling shows and promotions out there with blood, violence and a lot of other aspects that wouldn't be allowed at other places such as WWE. Are there any guidelines given by the network in terms of what Lucha Underground can and cannot do on the show?

DT: "A couple things with that. It is a really unique show. One of the great moments is the first time I got to go watch Lucha Underground live. I knew of it and I had seen it, but I didn't really experience it. Being able to experience it is a whole different level because you're watching a TV series. If you think about it, it's kind of an action-packed series that has wrestling in it. And you're talking about supernatural elements. You're talking about heroes and villains. You're talking about a lot of unconventional elements that you don't normally see in quote 'wrestling shows.' I think that's what makes it unique. I think what Robert and Mark did so brilliantly is that they created a universe. That universe is deep-rooted in tradition and legacy. It's rooted in the long-standing lucha libre tradition. You know in the show that it pulls from very historical elements from a lot of different Aztec and Mayans, and you see those elements in it. I think I would answer it this way, the show stays true to that tradition. To that legacy. And we celebrate it. It's very important to us to maintain that standard of lucha libre, which you don't want to veer from. And I think what the show has done, and it's evolved and has grown, is it continues to grow on all those unique elements that I think Lucha has been noticeably first doing in that space."


I know talking to Chris DeJoseph, the lead writer of Lucha Underground, he said he has all the writing freedom in the world. It doesn't seem like there's anything coming from the network perspective to slow him down.

DT: "No, you know one of the things I love about Robert and his thinking is he loves to do things that no one else does (laughs). He takes risks. He goes to the extreme. I used the word octane earlier and escapist-entertainment, action-packed, that's all things I really equate to Robert and I think that then funnels to everybody in the company where you're encouraged to take risks. You're encouraged to try something. And you know what, if it doesn't work try something else. I think Chris DeJoseph and the team, they definitely have a lot of openness to really try things out. And you know you listen to the audience. You know when something pops. You know when somebody's excited about the character. You hear the chants. You get fan reaction. I think that's the beauty of the show."

One of the topics that's been discussed recently with Lucha Underground is the constant breaks in filming. Season 3 just came back from a 4.5-month midseason break. What's the reason for these breaks and how can the El Rey Network avoid them in the future?

DT: "Again I look at Lucha like a TV show that features wrestling, so breaks, hiatuses, they're really a part of the natural structure of TV. I can't imagine many TV shows that you think about in prime time that don't take breaks, don't take hiatuses, don't have story arcs with breaks, endings and then they come back and keep the fans wanting more. I think that's an important part of programming for television. When I came on board a year ago, I looked at the landscape and I looked at the episodes that we had in the can and the convention about how to air them. We started off with season 3, and then we took the hiatus of season 3, then came back on May 31 with our 'All Night Long' episode, which is great. That's a normal programming cadence that I see from the number of episodes that we have, which is a lot.

"The other reason for this recent hiatus is really, I got to go back to Netflix. I think it's important when I look at the viewing habits of Netflix, it's a great opportunity to gain new viewers. It's a great opportunity to have fans, that maybe aren't familiar with it on El Rey, discover it on Netflix, watch Seasons 1 and 2, certainly get excited about the show, and then come to El Rey to watch new episodes. This is an El Rey show. To watch new episodes after you've watched seasons 1 and 2, you gotta come to El Rey. It was definitely something when I came on board, [I] thought this is the best way, based on El Rey's programming and based on the fact that seasons 1 and 2 were gonna be on Netflix, to really maximize the exposure for the show."

Do you have any updates on the progress of a potential season 4?

DT: "It's a great question and I've been asked that of course, but my answer, which is an honest one, is that we're in the middle of season 3. That's where our focus is. We're doing everything from a programming, a marketing, promotion, to deliver on a very successful, very engaging season 3. So it's really just a function of timing. It's just not time to talk about season 4 because we're actually in the middle of a season. Again, just from a network programming standpoint, you normally don't do that. That's where we are right now is we've got 19 more episodes of season 3 to get through. To make successful. And then you bet we're gonna want to talk about a season 4. We're committed to the series. It's a wonderful brand and it fits El Rey. But let it get through season 3, let us make that the best and then we can have a conversation about season 4."

What is the future of Lucha Underground? Will the show be sticking to the one-hour, seasonal format or have you considered branching out to possibly do Lucha Underground movies or pay-per-views?

DT: "The answer is all of the above. Yes, of course; we think about it, we talk about. We are certainly looking at a variety of logical extensions for the show, the characters, the brand. All of that makes sense. When you have something that fans are passionate about ... we have a site, El Rey Nation, where fans can write us. I read all of it. Every comment that is put on El Rey Nation, I look at, and we respond and we have great dialogue with our fans. We get a lot of comments, suggestions, like we'd like [Lucha Underground] to be longer. Absolutely. That'd be super cool. However, we do talk to a lot of fans and we do a lot of research and we have that conversation, but people really love that one-hour format. The short answer is yes, we're always looking to explore more ways to work with the show, the brand and our partners, and at the same time we're also listening to the fans and looking to see what they recommend. What they would like to see. When is the right time to do that? All of it's on the table for us to continue to explore."


Who is your favorite Lucha Underground character?

DT: "Oh gosh [laughs]. I'm not gonna answer it. I do have several favorites actually. It's funny, I would answer it this way. Coming into El Rey, Lucha Underground isn't necessarily something I would've thought appealed to me specifically. I have become, I am a true fan of that show. Period. I love watching it. I love going to the tapings. I love being with the characters. It is an absolute thrill. As a television executive, as a media executive, you don't always love everything you get to work on or be a part of. When there's something that you really enjoy, as a fan and you also get to be a part of it, that's a really unique situation. I can honestly say that I'm an absolute true, true fan of Lucha. So, tough one for me to answer because I do have several favorite characters, but as the president of El Rey I'm gonna say no comment."

Were you a pro wrestling fan before working with Lucha Underground?

DT: "No, I would say I was not. Am I a pro wrestling fan? I'm a fan of Lucha Underground. That is the absolute truth. I think it is a unique show. I think it's a special show. I think it's different than any other wrestling show, and I'm not saying that just as the President of El Rey. As a fan of Lucha Underground, I am a fan of it. I think that is a unique situation to come into a company like El Rey, and then to really fall in love with the program. It was here before I got here. I didn't put it on the air, but I became a fan of it. And not just because I work here. I will be a fan of it long after."

[DaveWadding]

So news out of Mexico is that Sexy Star is back with AAA, and part of the deal is that Sexy just gets handed their Women's belt (the Reina de Reinas championship) that Taya was just recently stripped of for specious reasons. Taya is throwing a fit on the Twitter machine.

Probably an angle, but it's interesting nonetheless.

Also, I don't like or appreciate Sexy Star at all, but LU is stronger with her than without her going forward, so that's good news.

[Emperor Smeat]

Was she just bluffing about retiring to start a boxing/MMA career?

Supposedly it happened shortly after tapings for this season was done.

[DaveWadding]

No, I think she tried, failed, went to wrestle in Shimmer and now she is back.

Edit - nvm, she won her one and only boxing match but my point still stands.

[Emperor Smeat]

Oh thought she was still training for a fight.

[DaveWadding]

Oh thought she was still training for a fight.

On July 2, 2016, García unmasked herself at a boxing event in Mexico City and announced she was changing professions and becoming a professional boxer.

On April 22, 2017, Garcia was victorious on her boxing debut, defeating Yanely Ceja Hernandez at the fourth round in an unanimous decision.

[DaveWadding]

So ready for this episode. PENTAAAAAAAAAGONNNNNNNNNN DAAAARRRRRKKKKKK

[DaveWadding]

Mack v Texano should be a fucking hoss battle.

It's not very often you can say the Mack is the flippiest guy in the ring.

Texano would be perfect for WWE, his style is very much what they like already. He's just solid and kinda boring.

Mack gets fucked by Famous B interfering. Meh.


Nothing like a little barfight with armbars, Havoc.

Rabbit Tribe vignettes are the best though.

SHOWTIME. Drago vs. Penta

Never thought Drago would get this much heel heat. damn.

V good, competitive match. Best of the tourney so far probably

WTF AEROSTAR

LOLLLLLL so much for trying to help your amigo. Enjoy the broken arm.

Get this feeling that Catrina is out of her league talking shit to Pentagon.

PJ vs Rey now

top rope hurricanrana rolled through into a Styles Clash. Christ.

HAHAHAHAHA @ Striker acknowledging the Dusty finish trope.

Good match with Rey fighting through the interference.

another 4 weeks until Rey vs. Mundo. can't wait. Good episode.

[Emperor Smeat]

El Rey and Lucha Underground are very close to a deal for Season 4 to happen. El Rey currently figuring out when to fit the potential season in their schedule.

Only big issue is LU might be getting a new producer or person in charge since Variety revealed the list of projects Mark Burnett currently works on and LU wasn't listed.

[DaveWadding]

I don't think Burnett has ever really been in charge. Just one of those prestige names they have as producer.

[DaveWadding]

LOLLLLLLLL Jack Evans

[DaveWadding]

OMGGGGGGGG that Puma/Fox match was the best match of the second half of the season so far.

[DaveWadding]

WWE should be taking notes from LU. The way LU is booking the title feud is a perfect example of how WWE should be booking feuds. The 2 guys are involved with each other, but not wrestling every week.

[DaveWadding]

He's not a God, He's a Machine...

[DaveWadding]

This week was amazing.

[KIRA]

WWE should be taking notes from LU. The way LU is booking the title feud is a perfect example of how WWE should be booking feuds. The 2 guys are involved with each other, but not wrestling every week.

Which is exactly how their WWE 2k games book feuds in Universe mode and it fucking sucks.LU has been nothing short of awesome in these 3 seasons.

[DaveWadding]

The thought of the semi-finals of the Cueto Cup tomorrow is giving me a semi.

[DaveWadding]

I would highly recommend that you watch this episode of Lucha Underground because it is the best episode they've ever done. 45 minutes of pure perfection.

[KIRA]

I plan to watch it this weekend after I get done watching Batman and Harley Quinn

[Simple Fan]

Don't come in here alot as I watch on my own accord, but hoy shit this weeks episode was awesome. Puma vs Phoenix was great but I enjoyed Pentagon vs Muertes more. Then the craziness ensued and you didn't know what was going to happen. Looking forward to Ultima Lucha.

[DaveWadding]

Frankly, this thread is mostly just me talking to myself. Not unlike your GFW thread. Lol

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Speaking of Lucha Underground it looks like Katrina/Maxine was a recent photo leak.

Along with her TNA's Allie, Rebel and WWE's Ruby Riot.

[#1-norm-fan]

I watched what I think were the two latest episodes. Matches and booking were fucking great. Catrina disappearing all the time was fucking stupid.

[DaveWadding]

SHE IS A GHOST TRAPPED BETWEEN TWO WORLDS

[DaveWadding]

A GHOST WITH NICE BREASTS.

[DaveWadding]

Last night's episodes failed to meet the insanely high bar set last week, but still very good.

[Emperor Smeat]

Puma-Pentagon match was really good but yeah this week's episode didn't feel as special as it should have been from last week's setup.

[KIRA]

So Sexy star is a top shelf bitch
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[#1-norm-fan]

Pentagon breaking an innocent woman's arm while the crowd cheered in approval was... awkward.

[DaveWadding]

Just realized that I've been watching Rey Mysterio since I was 10. Sort of overwhelming.

[DaveWadding]

THE 100TH EPISODE. GOING TO BE LIT AS FUCK.

[#1-norm-fan]

Eligible for syndication now!

[Swiss Ultimate]

I'm amazed that they first and second season threads are dead already, given that 85% of TPWW posters are American and bitch about WWE at every opportunity.

I DID MY BEST.

[Anybody Thrilla]

The Cage thing is a bit confusing, but I would like to know who the "master" is.

[DaveWadding]

Ultima Lucha is gonna be the fucking shit.

[DaveWadding]

The Cage thing is a bit confusing, but I would like to know who the "master" is.

It's Melissa Santos.

[DaveWadding]

ULTIMA FUCKING LUCHA

[DaveWadding]

This is amazing.

[DaveWadding]

Oh my God. What a fucking bloodbath.

[KIRA]

Gonna watch this tomorrow IM PUMPED

[KIRA]

That was fucking brutal

[Emperor Smeat]

Good/Bad News regarding LU's future from this week's Observer Newsletter.

The bad being they lost their major sources of funds from this and last season and nobody near their financial level is interested in the promotion. MGM and El Rey are currently in a big dispute over funding with MGM not a fan of the costs and El Rey is willing to spend but don't have anywhere close to the funds needed to cover a season.

The good news being they did manage to find someone willing to fund Season 4 although with some big trade-offs. Likely going to involve fewer episodes and fewer wrestlers due to the new budget expected to be drastically smaller and more wrestlers wanting out.

[DaveWadding]

BUT IT LIVES, SMEAT.

[DaveWadding]

Also, there has been more blood in the past two weeks of Ultima Lucha Tres than I've seen in the past two years watching WWE.

[Emperor Smeat]

BUT IT LIVES, SMEAT.

Yeup and that's the best part.

Wednesdays with NXT and LU has been a really good wrestling combo for me.

[DaveWadding]

And I found out today that you can download the comic books they did from the online store for free... Seems like a thing that Lock Jaw would like if he ever came into the thread....

https://luchaunderground.com/product-category/comic-books/

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Also, there has been more blood in the past two weeks of Ultima Lucha Tres than I've seen in the past two years watching WWE.

Blood should be a rarity. It makes it more impactful when it happens. WWE should have more but everybody else should have far far less.

[DaveWadding]

The good news being they did manage to find someone willing to fund Season 4 although with some big trade-offs. Likely going to involve fewer episodes and fewer wrestlers due to the new budget expected to be drastically smaller and more wrestlers wanting out.

I think that they just need to cancel all the 7 season contracts or whatever and start over on that front. They do have a lot of guys who are just kind of there to be there (see: this week's battle royal).

[DaveWadding]

This week was great. Pentagon vs Havoc was just as good as I anticipated. Pretty hype for next week, but sad because I have no idea if this is coming back any time soon, if ever.

[DaveWadding]

Still hype, and hoping that this isn't the last episode ever.

[DaveWadding]

GODDAMN @ everything so far

[DaveWadding]

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HOLY SHIT

HOLY SHIT

HOLY SHIT

HOLY SHIT

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[DaveWadding]

If that's the end, I'm going to cry. I need season 4.

[KIRA]

I wouldve killed to have LU back during wrestlings hot period its incredible

[Emperor Smeat]

The cage breaking spot between Matanza and Dragon Azteca was way cooler than what the WWE did with Big Show and Braun.

The Triple Threat match was great. Ouch at Cage getting skewers stuck in his head.

Both LU title matches were really great. :lol: at the ref snapping and doing a Plancha during the first title match.

:( Dario

[DaveWadding]

Cage liked one of my posts on Instagram about watching Season 3 over and over on Netflix when it comes out.