CM Punk says he is 30lbs past the weight limit for his UFC fight and post fight reactions

[slik]

Part of me wonders if he is joking...the other part of me knows he isn't known for his sense of humor...




Punk spoke today on the UFC 203 media call to talk about his upcoming fight with Mickey Gall. However, while the hype for this fight has been building for some time, it could be in jeopardy, as he revealed he was having trouble with the weight cut.

"It's terrible. I'm above 200 pounds right now and it's not going good."

CM Punk and Gall will be competing at the welterweight limit of 170 pounds. With just over a week left until the fight, CM Punk is going to have to drop weight fast. If he's successful, it will be one of the most brutal weight cuts in the history of the UFC.


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[DAMN iNATOR]

Hate to say it but I just can't see him making it.

[Lock Jaw]

Probably ate at several all-you-can-eat buffets to gain enough weight that he wouldn't be able to compete.

[XL]

Has he borrowed Eva Marie's gimmick?

[Fignuts]

This is getting comical.

[Frank Drebin]

I don't know shit about UFC, but this sounds fake.

Insert WWE ice cream bar joke.

[harmsway]

I don't know shit about That staged ufc shit..... if he doesn't make it to 170 does that mean he can't compete?

[slik]

Kris P said he was being a smart-ass

[Rammsteinmad]

I think Gall can decide whether to take the fight or not. He probably will. Problem is, if Punk does then win, it'll forever be tarnished by the fact that he had at least 30lbs on Gall.

[Anybody Thrilla]

I doubt it's 30lbs. of muscle.

[Innovator]

Punk made weight

[Rammsteinmad]

Yeah! Woo! Damn Punk looked fucking lean at that weigh-in. And super fired up. Win, lose or draw, I am so fucking hyped to see this. Gonna be awesome seeing Punk step into the octagon.

(What was up with not shaking Gall's hand though?)

[Rammsteinmad]

Dunno if it's legit, but from http://www.cagesideseats.com/2016/9/9/12868546/why-cm-punk-didnt-shake-hands-mickey-gall-ufc-203-weigh-in

As noted (with helpful photos to go with it) here, CM Punk refused to shake hands with Mickey Gall at the UFC 203 weigh-ins today in Cleveland, Ohio. Instead of wondering why he would do such a thing, Megan Olivi straight up asked him on the FS1 show.

The folks at MMA Fighting with the transcription:

"He was stuttering. He kept repeating, ‘Oh you don't want to shake my hand, you don't want to shake my hand' or something like that. I'm not here to shake anybody's hand. I'm here to punch people in the face."

Fair enough!

If nothing else, it may have helped create some interest in their fight tomorrow night on pay-per-view (PPV), or at least added a layer of intrigue for those already planning on making that purchase. We’ll have complete coverage of the fight this weekend to see if Punk succeeds in his goal of punching people in the face.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Pulling for Punk, though I realize it's unlikely. Just like with Brock, I want the rassler to win.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Win or lose Punk wins when the bell rings. This is going to be epic.

[RP]

I expect he'll be submitted in the first round, but if he gets past the first round and actually puts up a fight, i'll be very impressed. I'll be watching for sure.

[RP]

He absolutely looks like he's been putting in the work, so im interested to see what happens.

[Rammsteinmad]

I'm rooting for Punk simply coz, in many ways, he's representing WWE. You can just tell that everyone in the MMA community is against this "entertainer" who thinks he can hang in the octagon, so I wanna see him hang in the octagon! Even if he loses, as long as he manages to put up a good fight and earn peoples respect that'd be awesome.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Punk is brilliant. He's leaked that he had to make this super-fast weight cut, which gives him that "excuse" if he loses. Not shaking Gall's hand? The dude is just being a heel.

[Mr. Nerfect]

The guy's made his money in wrestling. He and Dana know that they can probably get two draws out of him even if he loses, and Punk knows that wrestling will take him back regardless of the outcome. But he doesn't need to go back, so it doesn't matter if he gets destroyed. Everything is entirely on his terms. The guy really has life by the balls.

[Rammsteinmad]

I'm not entirely convinced that whole overweight thing is legit. Is there actually an audio/video recording of Punk saying he was overweight? Losing over 30lbs in a week does seem quite a lot. I'm not expert on weightloss mind you, but to go from over 200lbs to the exact weight required is quite a big difference.

Even if it's true and he uses it as an "excuse" doesn't really phase me. I just wanna see him fight!

[Corporate CockSnogger]

So the biggest crying faggot in wrestling is now a huge crying faggot in ufc.

[Black Widow]

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Dana trying to keep from hysterically laughing ha!

[Theo Dious]

I don't care if he wins or loses I just wanna see his face get broken.

[Volare]

Hyped for this. I believe Mickey has a giant head from all of this, and during the VLOGS that UFC does, all he's been doing is talking shit about first round knock out/Imma' beat him for us (when he was talking to Overeem) and send him back....

All the pressure is on the kid, if he loses then he loses to a "fake wrestler" or "celebrity" and where does HIS career go after that?

Everything as I see it is in Punk's favor, everything to gain, nothing to lose.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

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[Vastardikai]

That met expectations.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Meh at least he didn't turtle up like I was expecting. Tough guy, but it was essentially a complete recreational amateur in a year and a half fantasy camp against a professional fighter.

[Evil Vito]

He should've fought the Green Ranger.

[Nicky Fives]

Takes balls to do what he did. No one ever going to call it smart though.

[Black Widow]

https://media.giphy.com/media/3oz8xW4wRrdFu4dQdO/giphy.gif

What a Bitch actual tears Ha!

[Maluco]

Time is not on his side. What Rogan said is spot on, this is what happens when a brown belt roles around with a white belt. He looked light years away from what is needed, completely overwhelmed.

He should chalk it up to a fun experience and walk away.

Honestly, without hyperbole, it would be bordering on irresponsible to let him fight again. It probably shouldn't have happened the first time, but money talks...

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Indeed it does. I give him credit for getting in there. He didn't have to. He could've just sat on ass selling t shirts with his name on it making piles of money.

Instead he went out and got himself into great shape and stepped into a fight with a guy he had no business accepting a fight with.

Did they ever say why they went with Gall instead of someone more of Punk's experience?

[Fignuts]

Love all the CM Punk haters on here, making fun of Punk for doing something they wouldn't have the balls to try.

I don't particularly like the guy, but christ how petty can you be?

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

https://media.giphy.com/media/3oz8xW4wRrdFu4dQdO/giphy.gif

What a Bitch actual tears Ha!

You should be banned for this.

[Evil Vito]

He definitely deserves credit for getting in there. He really had no chance in hell of winning but at least he knocked a huge item off of the bucket list.

[Destor]

Love all the CM Punk haters on here, making fun of Punk for doing something they wouldn't have the balls to try.

I don't particularly like the guy, but christ how petty can you be?

"They wouldn't have the balls to try"

Yeah you call it balls I'll call it brains. 37 and climbing isnt the time for your first dash into sports of any kind, least of all when you've been unathletic your whole life.

[Maluco]

I wouldn't call myself a hater, but it's as if a famous actor at a decent age in good shape (say Channing Tatum or zac efron) wakes up and decides to go to training camp to be a professional fighter.

Instead of starting at small promotions and working their way into professional fights, they are given a UFC fight based on their celebrity alone.

It is exactly the same thing.

Couple that totally unfounded preferential treatment with how salty and bitter he can sound about things, it is easy to see why "haters" have arose.

Good on him for trying, a lot of heart and dedication, but he shouldn't have been there in the first place.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Which still begs the question of why you feel the need to criticize him for it? He didn't have to put in the work and get in there to fight.

Whether you call it balls, brains, guts, courage, whatever. The guy CHOSE to do it because he wanted to and put in the work to do it. He didn't have to. The majority of us are not successful enough in life on our own hard work and merit to retire in our mid 30s and venture out to something else. I can't get the hate.

I think it's hilarious to deem Punk unathletic. He was a pro wrestler. A rather good one. Maybe he wasn't light on his feet, or doing moonsaults, but to say he's unathletic is hilarious.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

I wouldn't call myself a hater, but it's as if a famous actor at a decent age in good shape (say Channing Tatum or zac efron) wakes up and decides to go to training camp to be a professional fighter.

Instead of starting at small promotions and working their way into professional fights, they are given a UFC fight based on their celebrity alone.

It is exactly the same thing.

Couple that totally unfounded preferential treatment with how salty and bitter he can sound about things, it is easy to see why "haters" have arose.

Good on him for trying, a lot of heart and dedication, but he shouldn't have been there in the first place.

Yes, being an actor and pro wrestler are the same exact thing.

[Emperor Smeat]

Cool that Punk actually fought but if he's serious about another fight, maybe should consider getting a different team of trainers if that was the best he could do after 2 years. Then again probably didn't help he was injured for a while during that time.

UFC pretty much showed a spoiler of what was going to happen with their live pre-fight segment for Punk. He rushed in for a hold during the segment and did the exact same thing only to get countered right away.

[Maluco]

Yes, being an actor and pro wrestler are the same exact thing.

Ok, explain the difference in terms of how it relates to being a world class professional fighter?

[Damian Rey 2.0]

An actor is not constantly training/partaking in physical activity anywhere near as often or as demanding as a pro wrestler of similar magnitude.

Acting on a set a few months out of the year and training to become, becoming, and continually performing and training as a wrestler are two vastly different things. The wrestler is, to a point, a personal athlete. That's a leg up over an a professional actor.

[Disturbed316]

Punk Bitch

[Destor]

An actor is not constantly training/partaking in physical activity anywhere near as often or as demanding as a pro wrestler of similar magnitude.

Acting on a set a few months out of the year and training to become, becoming, and continually performing and training as a wrestler are two vastly different things. The wrestler is, to a point, a personal athlete. That's a leg up over an a professional actor.

Punk spent as much time in the gym when he was wrestling as the people watching at home

[Damian Rey 2.0]

As evident by what? Just because he was not bursting through his clothing with rippling muscle does not mean he didn't exercise or workout. For all we know he worked out but like most Americans sucked at dieting cleanly and consistently.

[Black Widow]

Love all the CM Punk haters on here, making fun of Punk for doing something they wouldn't have the balls to try.

I don't particularly like the guy, but christ how petty can you be? Well clearly I wouldn't have the balls, Not sure why people are taking such offence to people having a little bit of fun over the fact that he got demolished and choked out. Great, CM Punk has money and has a wife that most of you have probably jacked off to. Doesn't change the fact that he got choked out in 2 minutes.

It takes Balls to do a lot of stuff the Jackass cast does but I don't have to respect it.

You should be banned for this.Kinda like Punk likely getting cut from UFC Ha!

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Think it's more trying to figure out why people are taking joy in the man losing.

[Black Widow]

Think it's more trying to figure out why people are taking joy in the man losing.Cause it's well documented he's a 1st class douchebag.

[Fignuts]

"They wouldn't have the balls to try"

Yeah you call it balls I'll call it brains. 37 and climbing isnt the time for your first dash into sports of any kind, least of all when you've been unathletic your whole life.

If you want to have that opinion, that's fine, but making fun of him just seems in bad taste.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Cause it's well documented he's a 1st class douchebag.

Which is reason to ridicule him how?

Considering the racist malarkey you're posted that's a bit of the pot calling the kettle black wouldn't you say?

[Corporate CockSnogger]

So the biggest crying faggot in wrestling is now a huge crying faggot in ufc.

https://media.giphy.com/media/3oz8xW4wRrdFu4dQdO/giphy.gif

What a Bitch actual tears Ha!

:lol:

[Corporate CockSnogger]

Guys, just a reminder that CM Punk once blocked me on Twitter for insinuating that AJ Lee looked like Gilbert Gottfried.

[Vastardikai]

Do you know why Punk was smiling when he walked down the aisle? Because the check cleared. A bunch of people are laughing that he lost, but they paid money to see him fight. And for that, I'm sure the only thing he loses sleep over is how messed up his ear got.

[Cool King]

A 24 year old pro won in a fight against a 37 year old newbie.

Well colour me shocked.

[Cool King]

But really though, I commend Punk for going into MMA and doing it on such a big stage like the UFC. It's been said before, but he doesn't really need to do this, but he is doing it because he wants to. Because of that, I don't know how people can still hate/ridicule him.

He could easily just stay at home and make money through appearances and merchandise, but he's not. He's putting himself through intense training and (from what was seen last night) getting his ass handed to him. If I had to make one of those choices, I'd stay at home.

Anyway, even though he's only had one fight, I really don't think MMA is for him, mostly due to his age. He's left it pretty late.

He's pushing 40 and is a newbie and he's going to be fighting guys either half his age who have a few fights under their belts or guys his own age who have a lot of fights under their belts. I'm no MMA guy, but to me it looks like he doesn't stand a chance in getting anywhere in MMA, but hopefully I'm wrong.

[Corporate CockSnogger]

I dunno, it seems pretty straight forward why people are mocking him for the whole thing.

He's always been a bit of a dickhead. People like to see dickheads get beat up. Not too much science to it really.

[Lock Jaw]

Seemed real humble/grateful and inspiring in his post match promo.....

[Kris P Lettus]

Cool that Punk actually fought but if he's serious about another fight, maybe should consider getting a different team of trainers if that was the best he could do after 2 years. Then again probably didn't help he was injured for a while during that time.


Stop. Rufusport is an elite camp with multiple champions at the highest level. Anthony Pettis, Ben Askin, and even the current UFC Welterweight (Punks division) champ Tyron Woodley, to name a few. Punk is 38, just started training full time, and is a white belt in BJJ. This just shows why there are levels to experience and why there is a belt system in place to begin with. If it was a BJJ match, he never would have faced Gall, who is a legit brown belt.

[Kris P Lettus]

Seemed real humble/grateful and inspiring in his post match promo.....

In life you go big or you go home, I just like to take challenges. This was a hell of a mountain to try to climb and I didn't get to the summit today, but that doesn't mean I'm going to give up. I will be back, believe it or not, this was the most fun I've ever had. It was the second best day of my life after marrying my wife. I know there's a lot of doubters, but life's about falling down and getting up. It doesn't matter how many times you get knocked down, it's about getting back up. So if there's any kid out there who's told by a parent, a teacher or a coach or somebody that they're supposed to look up to, somebody that's supposed to push them and believe in them and they're told "no" don't listen to them. Believe in yourself. Sometimes the outcome isn't always what you desire it to be, but the true failure in life is not trying at all. I know that sounds preachy and kind of weird for a guy that just got beat up, but fuck it. This is the time of my life, thank you Cleveland

[Kris P Lettus]

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[Maluco]

An actor is not constantly training/partaking in physical activity anywhere near as often or as demanding as a pro wrestler of similar magnitude.

Acting on a set a few months out of the year and training to become, becoming, and continually performing and training as a wrestler are two vastly different things. The wrestler is, to a point, a personal athlete. That's a leg up over an a professional actor.

I guarantee those actors I mentioned spend more time in the gym than CM Punk did while he was in WWE, the results were visible.

I could play soccer every day of my life and it still wouldn't prepare me to play at the World Cup.

This isn't even this though. Pro wrestling has absolutely zero to do with MMA. He had ZERO experience of anything it contains before he started his training two years ago. ZERO.

There is no correlation. It was an actor who does his own stunts having a professional fight against a highly trained MMA fighter. The fact that there were people on the card last night that have belts in 3-4 different disciplines and have been world champions in MMA and kick boxing before just makes it more ridiculous.

He shouldn't be in the UFC.

I am not a hater, I don't hate him and admire him for training so hard, but pro wrestling has prepared him for this moment about as well as ordering a pizza has prepared me for masterchef.

[screech]

He should've fought the Green Ranger.

I really want this to be a thing that happens.

[Simple Fan]

Seemed real humble/grateful and inspiring in his post match promo.....

Pretty much had to be after getting his ass kicked. Not surprised and I don't think he should fight again after losing to a nobody. Who else is there for him to fight that he would have a chance? Would be better off in Bellator fighting old men.

[Kris P Lettus]

Who else is there for him to fight that he would have a chance?

http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Mike-Jackson-63272

Would be better off in Bellator fighting old men.

Who is old in the Bellator welterweight division? Koscheck and Cyborg are the only two i can think of and Punk wants no part of either of those guys. The problem is, any of the guys his age will dominate him with experience. The younger guys will always be more athletic.

[Simple Fan]

Think it's more trying to figure out why people are taking joy in the man losing.

Never really liked Punk. His long WWE title reign was the last time I stopped watching WWE for a long period of time. Just didnt seem like a legitimate champion to me so I didnt watch any of his reign and it lasted forever. Im glad he lost and hope he stays away from pro wrestling as well.

[Simple Fan]

http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Mike-Jackson-63272



Who is old in the Bellator welterweight division?

So the guy that lost to the guy that beat Punk?

I don't know but the last Bellator fight I seen was Ken Shamrock vs one of the Gracies and it sucked. Not a huge MMA fan but will watch everyonce in a while.

[Crimson]

Idk I think Gall looks like a future legit title contender. Not at this point obviously but I think he'll climb up the ranks and in 3 years or so he might be fighting for a top contender spot.

Pretty much what I expected in this fight , Punk losing in the first round. He didn't look too bad defending on the ground, his big mistake was rushing in like that. With that said it's tricky on what to do with him next. If he wants to keep going maybe you put it on fight pass ? You can't let Bellator sign him I don't think, he signed a multi fight contract anyway. I think if Punk wants to keep at it just put him on prelims or fight pass and if he gets canned again just call it a day.

[Kris P Lettus]

I don't know but the last Bellator fight I seen was Ken Shamrock vs one of the Gracies and it sucked. Not a huge MMA fan but will watch everyonce in a while.

That was a one off freak show fight. And even then, I would put money on Shamrock or Royce, if they were to fight Punk.

[Simple Fan]

I've watched a few Belkator fights and if there was any chance of MMA being rigged it's happening in Bellator I believe.

[Destor]

As evident by what? Just because he was not bursting through his clothing with rippling muscle does not mean he didn't exercise or workout. For all we know he worked out but like most Americans sucked at dieting cleanly and consistently.
Punk has always bragged about not working out. Pull your head out of his ass.
If you want to have that opinion, that's fine, but making fun of him just seems in bad taste.he knew what he signed up for.

[Kris P Lettus]

I've watched a few Belkator fights and if there was any chance of MMA being rigged it's happening in Bellator I believe.

Now a days, i guess. Watch old Pride fights. Del Rio doing the job for Cro Cop.

[XL]

I dunno, it seems pretty straight forward why people are mocking him for the whole thing.

He's always been a bit of a dickhead. People like to see dickheads get beat up. Not too much science to it really.

Think there's a lot of "butt hurt" WWE fans pissed off that he walked away from "us", and tried to do something else. People were the same when Brock walked away, loved it when he failed at football, and wanted him to get his ass beat in UFC.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Punk has always bragged about not working out. Pull your head out of his ass.
he knew what he signed up for.

He didn't lift weights, but he did exercise. Pretty sure he ran every day. Now... the intensity of his running could be called into question but he was always in pretty good shape as far as the gas in the tank goes.

At some points he was a bit flabby, but come his title reign, he was pretty lean and mean.

[Simple Fan]

Now a days, i guess. Watch old Pride fights. Del Rio doing the job for Cro Cop.

Lol he fought in his lucha mask. Didn't even look like Cro Cops kick landed all the way. Think Del Rio was mostly scared and ready to get out of there.

[Kris P Lettus]

Lol he fought in his lucha mask. Didn't even look like Cro Cops kick landed all the way. Think Del Rio was mostly scared and ready to get out of there.

Frim what i was told, Cro Cop wasnt in on it. And yeah the kkick was horrible.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

He didn't lift weights, but he did exercise. Pretty sure he ran every day. Now... the intensity of his running could be called into question but he was always in pretty good shape as far as the gas in the tank goes.

At some points he was a bit flabby, but come his title reign, he was pretty lean and mean.

Get your head out if your ass, Dale. We all know he didn't work out.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Good move by Punk with the babyface promo at the end. Roy Nelson and a few other MMA fighters have come up and given Punk "attaboys" after the bout too. It doesn't make sense to push him as a cocky heel after the loss, but they can milk a babyface comeback out of him now. I imagine his second fight is marketed on his second attempt, he'll probably lose that, and then he can face the guy that beat Gall for the Punk fight. Dana White can probably squeeze three juicy supporting PPV draws from the guy.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

White was quoted as saying he shouldn't fight in UFC should he fight again. If Punk is serious about continuing, he should go back to training and start from the bottom.

He's likely to get killed even against young guys with minimal fights under their belt.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Oh, I didn't know that. Well, I doubt Punk wants to fight second-rate. I could see Punk just moving on to other things now. Good for him. :y:

[Mr. Nerfect]

Would fucking love to see a Kurt Angle vs. CM Punk feud. Just throwing that out there.

[Kris P Lettus]

Would fucking love to see a Kurt Angle vs. CM Punk feud. Just throwing that out there.

Kurt outweighs him by a good bit. I see Angle wrestlefuckung Punk worse than Gall.

[Destor]

Kurt outweighs him by a good bit. I see Angle wrestlefuckung Punk worse than Gall.

He was meaning wrestling not MMA

[Mr. Nerfect]

Maybe he means Angle would shoot to make it look nasty?

[Rammsteinmad]

Not the outcome I wanted, but was the outcome I expected. Mad props to Punk for getting in there when he didn't have to, and his post-fight promo pretty much gives the whole thing meaning to anyone who watched it.

And holy fuck at those early shots from Gall. Fucking hell that kid has some serious power. Props to Punk for surviving those but damn, knew he was in way over his head immediately after that.

It has certainly inspired me. I've been wrestling since 2003 (actually wrestled on a show involving Punk back in 2004), and I've been doing MMA on-and-off over the years, but never to the level that I'd ever have a legit fight. But it's inspired me to go for it. There's an MMA gym five-minutes walk from my house that I've been going to once a week for fun. It's time for me to get in there and go to as many classes as possible. I wanna get to the level where I can have one fight, if nothing else, so that I don't grow old regretting never trying it. I'm 29, certainly not under any illusions of being in the UFC, but would love to just make it to the level of having one fight. Wish me luck!

[Rammsteinmad]

Also, crazy that people still find shit to argue about here. Who gives a fuck if anyone respects or belittles CM Punk for this entire thing. Everyone has an opinion, worry about your own.

[Rammsteinmad]

Did they ever say why they went with Gall instead of someone more of Punk's experience?

Dunno if it was ever "revealed", but I assumed it was just because it'd be next-to-impossible to find a respectable candidate who also had an 0-0 record. Gall had just won his first pro fight when he called out Punk, so seemed like a ballsy choice.

[Kris P Lettus]

Not the outcome I wanted, but was the outcome I expected. Mad props to Punk for getting in there when he didn't have to, and his post-fight promo pretty much gives the whole thing meaning to anyone who watched it.

And holy fuck at those early shots from Gall. Fucking hell that kid has some serious power. Props to Punk for surviving those but damn, knew he was in way over his head immediately after that.

It has certainly inspired me. I've been wrestling since 2003 (actually wrestled on a show involving Punk back in 2004), and I've been doing MMA on-and-off over the years, but never to the level that I'd ever have a legit fight. But it's inspired me to go for it. There's an MMA gym five-minutes walk from my house that I've been going to once a week for fun. It's time for me to get in there and go to as many classes as possible. I wanna get to the level where I can have one fight, if nothing else, so that I don't grow old regretting never trying it. I'm 29, certainly not under any illusions of being in the UFC, but would love to just make it to the level of having one fight. Wish me luck!

If you become dedicated. Im sure your gym could book you on a local card.

[Rammsteinmad]

Yeah totally. As it is now, I do two hours a session, once a week.

It's good for your typical social "oh Tuesday night is MMA night" but nah, I wanna try and get in there every night. Win, lose or draw, I just wanna be able to look back on it one day happy that I tried it. Gonna be 30 in about four months, don't wanna be 40 looking back regretting not trying it. :y:

[Kris P Lettus]

My shoulders are too fucked up to train anymore.

[Kris P Lettus]

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[Mr. Nerfect]

Good luck, Rammsteinmad. :y:

[Black Widow]

Which is reason to ridicule him how?

Considering the racist malarkey you're posted that's a bit of the pot calling the kettle black wouldn't you say?Nope I have valid reasons.

He is a millionaire with a hot wife he has no reason to act like a 1st class bastard

[Black Widow]

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[Rammsteinmad]

Wow all of those memes are incredibly not funny.

In fact, memes haven't been funny in ages.

[Fignuts]

Well, you generally hate everything.

[hb2k]

For whatever reason, I found it to be one of the least enjoyable fights I've ever watched. I like Punk, and by no means expected him to fare well, but something about the reality of it playing out stuck an odd chord with me.

Seeing him walk out to Cult of Personality and carry himself SO well until the fight started made me realise - this guy was made for pro wrestling, he really should be there, but the industry is so fucked up it'll drive a man insane. So here he is - completely out of his element, galloping out of his corner like fucking Secretariat right into a takedown. A friend asked me what I thought would happen on Friday, and my answer was takedown-punches-choke in the first round. And I'm not saying I'm clever because I said that in advance, because I'm not - it was obvious.

Like a lamb to the slaughter, not a soul on the Earth believed he had a chance, they knew he wasn't qualified, the athletic commissions waived their own fucking rules to let him fight for the cash grab. And I'm not crying for Punk - I'm sure he made his money too. But nothing about that was fun. Punk looked like shit, wrestling looked like shit, UFC looked like shit.

Oh, and Filthy Tom Lawlor can fuck off crying on Observer Radio about how Punk being in UFC has damaged the cache and respectability of being a "UFC Fighter". Like Sean Gannon fresh off the Kimbo Slice video looking like he's spent his six week camp eating lard pies wasn't a bigger black eye. Or James Toney, how was also out of shape and out of his element. At least Punk worked hard and was ripped, and at least Mickey Gall was inches away from Punk when he took him down, Randy Couture was still on the fucking airplane when he started shooting in on Toney and got him to the ground anyway. Freak show matches have happened before, and if these morons are deluded enough to think this will be a lesson, just wait until the next celebrity wannabe tries it and watch UFC and the commissions bark like sea lions all over again. And of all people not to get that, it's Tom Lawlor, the biggest wrestling fan in the UFC. Defies belief.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Well said. It really is a shame there's not a legitimate #2 promotion that could give talent leverage when it came to their creative direction and such. I really doubt Vince would have fucked around with CM Punk, Daniel Bryan, Cesaro, Wade Barrett, Dolph Ziggler, Ryback and basically anyone else with star potential if there was someone drawing 3.0 ratings.

[Rammsteinmad]

Well, you generally hate everything.

I'm totally not sorry if that bothers you.

[Black Widow]

Wow all of those memes are incredibly not funny.

In fact, memes haven't been funny in ages. Christian hasn't been funny in ages either meaning when he was with Edge.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Oh, and Filthy Tom Lawlor can fuck off crying on Observer Radio about how Punk being in UFC has damaged the cache and respectability of being a "UFC Fighter". Like Sean Gannon fresh off the Kimbo Slice video looking like he's spent his six week camp eating lard pies wasn't a bigger black eye. Or James Toney, how was also out of shape and out of his element. At least Punk worked hard and was ripped, and at least Mickey Gall was inches away from Punk when he took him down, Randy Couture was still on the fucking airplane when he started shooting in on Toney and got him to the ground anyway. Freak show matches have happened before, and if these morons are deluded enough to think this will be a lesson, just wait until the next celebrity wannabe tries it and watch UFC and the commissions bark like sea lions all over again. And of all people not to get that, it's Tom Lawlor, the biggest wrestling fan in the UFC. Defies belief.


I like Tom Lawlor but MMA fighters are full of shit on many things. Firstly, they need to remember the roots MMA has in pro wrestling. 2ndly, what you said. Fucking whiny losers.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Get your head out if your ass, Dale. We all know he didn't work out.

lol I watched his documentary which had long montages of him going on runs and talked about how he worked really hard to lean out for his title reign?

[Damian Rey 2.0]

We both know that was just a phony montage shot solely for the doc. Punk worked out as often as his basement dwelling fans

[Kris P Lettus]

We both know that was just a phony montage shot solely for the doc. Punk worked out as often as his basement dwelling fans

Its weird cause Punk works out in his basement

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

I think Punk worked out. I just dont' think he's much of an athlete and I don't necessarily think he trained at a super high level.

I do think he ran. He always talks about doing marathons and shit. I don't think he was a great runner due to his lack of athleticism but I think he kept relatively fit. It's not like the guy was gassing out in his matches and he worked a quick pace. He also had a decent look.... it's not like he had the body of Kassius Ohno.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Interesting that Tom Lawlor mocked Punk. Work?

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Of course Dale I'm just dicking around

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

more talking about Destor who actually neg repped me in an odd sequence of events,

[Black Widow]

Wake up, 'smart' fans; the man does not like you and doesn't care about you . He doesn't want your pity or your remorse. Stop defending your abusive boyfriend, IWC. He doesn't respect you. Raise your self esteem and leave him. Stop letting your indy darling give you virtual black eye's just because you like his in-ring work. Have some dignity. Jesus...

This will be my last post on the prick til I see another funny meme about his beatdown.

[EzekielKane]

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[Damian Rey 2.0]

No I must not

[Snob Goblin]

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You know, that's a great point.

He walked out on WWE and his fans, acted like he was Billy Bad Ass for it, then spends the next 2 years training for this debacle. He didn't fight any small time fighters like Brock or Batista did, he was handed a spot on PPV he didn't do a thing to earn aside from being a famous pro rassler, and he got destroyed by a kid much younger and much more experienced. 2 years of training for a humiliating 2 minute fight where his "tough guy" image was completely shattered. I think a lot of people are mistaking respect for pity.

I'm not even sure WWE would want him back now. Not after that.

[Destor]

You know, that's a great point.

He walked out on WWE and his fans, acted like he was Billy Bad Ass for it, then spends the next 2 years training for this debacle. He didn't fight any small time fighters like Brock or Batista did, he was handed a spot on PPV he didn't do a thing to earn aside from being a famous pro rassler, and he got destroyed by a kid much younger and much more experienced. 2 years of training for a humiliating 2 minute fight where his "tough guy" image was completely shattered. I think a lot of people are mistaking respect for pity.

I'm not even sure WWE would want him back now. Not after that.personally i would prefer if no one ever used him again. Unless he's booked as pure chicken shit.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Chicken shit? He is nothing of the sort. He went after his dream and got his ass handed to him. That's not chicken shit.

Also shame on you responding to an obvious sock's response to another sock's response.

Shame!

[Emperor Smeat]

According to the Observer, UFC 203 with Punk looking to be a big success in terms of buys.

Punk might have helped bring in around an extra $5 million more than usual for the ppv.

Earlier reports about the prelims stated it was low but the Observer and others believed it was due to the majority of people only caring about the Punk fight and/or the main card.

The flip side of this is Punk’s debut from a business standpoint based on early evidence looks to be a success. Early indications based off internet PPV numbers are that the show will do something in the range of 450,000 to 460,000 buys (and keep in mind any number based strictly on iPPV buys could be off significantly) for a show that would have probably done about 270,000 without him. Based on a few numbers, coming in at about 70 percent to double that of UFC 201, that would indicate a number in the 425,000 to 475,000 range, but those figures could easily be off this early. The number greatly exceeded company projections. So if we estimate it as 180,000 more buys due to him at nearly $30 per head to the promotion, that’s $5.4 million in added revenue, not to mention any other value as far as bar purchases, merchandise, whatever value he brings to other UFC products and the like. When the word came out that he was paid $500,000, a lot of people were shocked and upset. The reality is he would have almost certainly had a cut of the PPV since he was the top draw on the show. While it doesn’t appear the PPV did a monster number, with a PPV cut, you’re probably talking about a few hundred thousand more dollars added on to that purse. And given the revenue he brought to the table and the interest level, right now it looks to have been a bargain for UFC. I was shocked that in 2016 people would complain about what he earned when it was clear he was going to drive some revenue, and $500,000 is only 17,000 extra buys, a number even the most conservative of estimates should have figured he’d blow past.

[Mr. Nerfect]

UFC is money-driven like anything else. If this boosted the buy-rate then they'll want him back for another fight to see if it can draw too. How will Punk do round two? When he loses that it and the returns are diminished, I think he'll settle comfortably into whatever life he wants to have.

[Rammsteinmad]

Yeah, if that's true, then in reality, everyone wins all round, and regardless of how it may seem "disrespectful" to other MMA fighters, it was a great business move by UFC.

[Destor]

Chicken shit? He is nothing of the sort. He went after his dream and got his ass handed to him. That's not chicken shit.

Also shame on you responding to an obvious sock's response to another sock's response.

Shame!
Doesnt matter what he really is, it matters what he's percieved as being. Which is a person who can not fight. He would need to be booked as such.
Yeah, if that's true, then in reality, everyone wins all round, and regardless of how it may seem "disrespectful" to other MMA fighters, it was a great business move by UFC.The laugh i get is that punk went in and did exactly what he left the WWE for. Names bumping guys who deserve the spot and collecting big pay days. Guy is a scum bag. Didnt think that before he went to UFC. Though I admit I love his in ring work. Course now he's gone off and killed all his credibility in the ring so that's gone too I guess.

[Snob Goblin]

Chicken shit? He is nothing of the sort. He went after his dream and got his ass handed to him. That's not chicken shit.

Also shame on you responding to an obvious sock's response to another sock's response.

Shame!

I'm really not a sock.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Completely agree with Destor here. Any self-respecting promoter would be shit-scared about bringing CM Punk in any sort of "bad-ass" role after he got his ass handed to him in the UFC. It reinforces the real/fake divide, and the more you do that, the more people are driven away. I used to think there could be some sort of "ironic attraction" to those sorts of things, but the only people it really appeals to are wrestling fans.

If Punk wanted to get back into wrestling, you'd be a fool not to take him, but you've got to smart about how you book him. I'd suggest that he be brought in as a manager or commentator that is eventually cornered in the ring. Punk's ego, and perhaps rightfully so, is probably too big to put himself in the Bobby Heenan role in 2016/2017 though.

[BigCrippyZ]

Don't blame Punk for getting paid. If UFC wanted to make that offer, he should take it if he wanted to take it. I will say the fact that he bumped guys off the card who otherwise would've been in that spot had Punk not been there is funny though. Guy apparently basically despised the idea of others doing the same to him and others in WWE.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Oh, I don't blame him for getting paid at all. And I don't blame the UFC for paying him. This is all business. It's just funny from a fan perspective.

[Destor]

Don't blame Punk for getting paid. If UFC wanted to make that offer, he should take it if he wanted to take it. I will say the fact that he bumped guys off the card who otherwise would've been in that spot had Punk not been there is funny though. Guy apparently basically despised the idea of others doing the same to him and others in WWE.

I dont blame him, but I don't respect him for it either.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Yeah, that's a succinct way of saying it.

[Destor]

Completely agree with Destor here. Any self-respecting promoter would be shit-scared about bringing CM Punk in any sort of "bad-ass" role after he got his ass handed to him in the UFC. It reinforces the real/fake divide, and the more you do that, the more people are driven away. I used to think there could be some sort of "ironic attraction" to those sorts of things, but the only people it really appeals to are wrestling fans.

If Punk wanted to get back into wrestling, you'd be a fool not to take him, but you've got to smart about how you book him. I'd suggest that he be brought in as a manager or commentator that is eventually cornered in the ring. Punk's ego, and perhaps rightfully so, is probably too big to put himself in the Bobby Heenan role in 2016/2017 though.

Him as a manager would be great. He can talk and he can bump. I would really be able to get behind that.

[Mr. Nerfect]

And I also don't blame UFC fighters for being pissed off. I mean, if I was a fighter, I wouldn't care. The more money Punk draws on PPV the less likely my checks are to bounce at the end of the day. In some ways, I can understand why wrestlers would be more upset -- because it's fake and the company can dictate who it wants to get over -- but I could understand why a fighter who trains so hard is kind of annoyed that Punk would get paid so much to go out there and get killed.

[Destor]

And I also don't blame UFC fighters for being pissed off. I mean, if I was a fighter, I wouldn't care. The more money Punk draws on PPV the less likely my checks are to bounce at the end of the day. In some ways, I can understand why wrestlers would be more upset -- because it's fake and the company can dictate who it wants to get over -- but I could understand why a fighter who trains so hard is kind of annoyed that Punk would get paid so much to go out there and get killed.

If I were a guy who spent years training fighting his way up to the main card only to be bumped to the preshow...id be bitter.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Yeah, I get that. I think it's because I try to understand the business side of things that I see the outside perspective. It'd probably annoy me more if fighting was my number one focus.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

I'm really not a sock.

The fact that you know what sock means is suspect.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Snob Goblin is an outstanding human being and vouch for his/her legitimate existence.

[Destor]

Yeah, I get that. I think it's because I try to understand the business side of things that I see the outside perspective. It'd probably annoy me more if fighting was my number one focus.

Bringing punk in was brilliant from a fiscal stance...just like the rock headlining against cena was a good move as well. I have no issue with the ufc making the choices theyve made. Its Punk's choices and the hypocrisy of them that gets me.

Its good though, the punk fight, for the undercard guys. The exposure will go a long way for all involved assuming the viewers return.

[Mr. Nerfect]

The next buyrate will be very interesting.

[Sixx]

only now watched the fight and it was bloody hilarious

[Sixx]

that guy didn't even break a sweat seemed like

[Rammsteinmad]

Galls opening strikes looked fucking HEAVY.

Will be interesting to see what he can do against someone more his caliber.

[Kris P Lettus]

He didn't fight any small time fighters like Brock or Batista did, he was handed a spot on PPV he didn't do a thing to earn aside from being a famous pro rassler

To be fair, Brock only had one MMA fight, before joining the UFC, against a 2-5 can, whose only notable win was against another former prowrestler, Sean O Haire. Brocks second every MMA fight was a UFC ppv comain event against a former multiple time UFC heavyweight champion, in Frank Mir. He lost that fight after Mazzagotti stopped it for illegal blows to the back of the head. When he reatarted the match, Mir grabbed a leg and secured a knee bar. Lesnar then faced JMMA vet Heath Herring, looked good. His forth fight was a rematch main event at UFC 100, which at the time, was the biggest event UFC had ever put on. The comain of the PPV was GSP (the biggest draw at the time) defending his welterweight title against Alves. The main difference between Lesnar and Punk is the amature wrestling background.

If punk fights again, it will be against Mike Jackson on a Fight Pass card.