SmackDownLIVE - Official Thread - September 13th

[Anybody Thrilla]

Heel turn or Ambrose dealing with a sudden case of Lunaticitis?

Neither. Cena was talking hella shit about Ambrose earlier in the show and he's also one of his opponents at No Mercy. Cena should have seen that coming.

[KIRA]

Love the blue sideplates too

[KIRA]

Remember when everyone was sure that Miz would be Jannetty to Morrison's Michaels?

To be fair Morrison has been great in LU

[Anybody Thrilla]

To be fair Morrison has been great in LU

Oh no doubt. I've always been a big Morrison fan. Still am. My main point was that The Miz has come a really long way.

[Simple Fan]

Smackdown continues to put out better shows than Raw and should pay off with football season starting back.

Miz is killing it right now and I'd like to see him keep the IC title for a while. Not really a whole lot other contenders out there for him other than Ziggler right now. Interested to see what Miz's contract demands are.

Styles should come out winner at No Mercy taking advantage of Cena and Ambrose beating the shot out of one another(they don't want none). I have no problem with Dena going for number 16 but I hope he fails a few times and they stretch it out. Could hold it off til Wrestkemania.

Ready to see the Women's and Tag divisions get going now that the have titles. Lynch vs Bliss is a good first match for Becky. I'm glad Slater finally got signed and they didn't just throw the titles on a NXT call up team.

Looks like they realized they left Smackdown a little to dry and have moved Swagger over. Swagger has always been one of my favorites and I love the We the People gimmick. Would like to see Axle make the jump to Smack down as well.

[Anybody Thrilla]

Maryse is so fucking hot.

[Anybody Thrilla]

I keep hearing people mention that they love Swagger's "WE THE PEOPLE" gimmick, but what gimmick is that? He says the catch phrase and he literally does nothing else but job out.

[Innovator]

God damn Alexa Bliss

[Triple A]

Did they ever explain away all the extremely racist things he and his manager were saying about Mexican people

Maybe those people like his "gimmick" from back when he was doing that

[Dark One]

Interesting character development for both Dean Ambrose and John Cena. Hopefully will make Dean Ambrose a bigger, more popular star.

[Anybody Thrilla]

Did they ever explain away all the extremely racist things he and his manager were saying about Mexican people

Maybe those people like his "gimmick" from back when he was doing that

They never really explained anything. His racism basically turned him babyface, though.

I still don't understand what the fuck that Mexamerica shit was supposed to mean either.

I ALSO don't understand why Baron Corbin backed down from him.

I ALSO don't understand why Swagger was so goofy in that promo.

I ALSO don't understand why he was wearing a backwards hat.

I used to love Swagger. Not so much since the Colter pairing.

[Triple A]

Yeah when I first started watching again, really had no idea who most people were and felt extremely confused when Jack Swagger and Zeb Colter seemed to have a gimmick where they said extremely racist things, and they were seemingly supposed to be "faces"...

[Anybody Thrilla]

Also, I think I'm going to officially jump on board as a Baron Corbin fan. I never thought I'd say that a year ago.

[DukesOfKaos]

miz was always better what morrison promo have u ever herd u gonna look back 10 years from now and go damn that was great

[Emperor Smeat]

Did they ever explain away all the extremely racist things he and his manager were saying about Mexican people

Maybe those people like his "gimmick" from back when he was doing that
Not really. Think like ABT said, he just randomly turned face because of the MexiAmerica stuff taking over.

There was a promo one time where him and Zeb Colter basically went out of character saying they didn't actually hate Mexicans but that was more of a response to Glenn Beck and Tea Party criticisms of the gimmick.

[Evil Vito]

I hope they actually try to give a shit about Swagger this time. If they're gonna go back to jobbing him out constantly they may as well release him, because they feel the need to mention every match of his that he's a former World Heavyweight champion.

[Anybody Thrilla]

miz was always better what morrison promo have u ever herd u gonna look back 10 years from now and go damn that was great

I always liked The Miz. Being paired with him is what pushed Morrison to show any sort of personality at all.

[Anybody Thrilla]

Crazy that they are both products of Tough Enough.

[Simple Fan]

Fans eat the We the People chant up. USA#1 who wouldn't? Just needs to get some wins and have some decent programs. Would have been better if he could win the US title but he makes a good IC challenger for the Miz down the line. Not sure I'd want him winning it though, kind of want Miz to break the record for longest IC reign.

[Anybody Thrilla]

Fans eat the We the People chant up. USA#1 who wouldn't? Just needs to get some wins and have some decent programs. Would have been better if he could win the US title but he makes a good IC challenger for the Miz down the line. Not sure I'd want him winning it though, kind of want Miz to break the record for longest IC reign.

I understand that people eat it up. But why? You said you enjoy the "gimmick". But what's the gimmick? It's just a catchphrase. People will chant anything.

[Emperor Smeat]

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[Simple Fan]

Patriotic I guess. I really liked Zeb but think their best time together was with Cesaro. Think he needs to find a good tag partner, maybe Shelton Benjamin if he ever gets cleared.

[DAMN iNATOR]

I keep hearing people mention that they love Swagger's "WE THE PEOPLE" gimmick, but what gimmick is that? He says the catch phrase and he literally does nothing else but job out.

Über-patriotic guy, I guess. Doesn't take much to get ANY US(A #1! :shifty: ) crowd to start being all "'MURICA! FUCK YEAH!".

[KIRA]

Über-patriotic guy, I guess. Doesn't take much to get ANY US(A #1! :shifty: ) crowd to start being all "'MURICA! FUCK YEAH!".

I know right?Idiots.

[Anybody Thrilla]

When was the last time Swagger even did anything remotely patriotic? The Rusev "feud"?

[Simple Fan]

He's a real American.

[Anybody Thrilla]

So you don't even know why you like him. Got it.

[Simple Fan]

How do you even come to that conclusion? Dude is solid in the ring and has a gimmick people can get behind. You asked when was the last time he did something patriotic well he was announced as a Real American on Raw and We the People is as patriotic as it gets.

[Anybody Thrilla]

What has the fucking character done that could be deemed as patriotic lately? Fuck.

[Anybody Thrilla]

Nothing he has done lately should make you think he's still doing the patriotic gimmick outside of saying the fucking catchphrase. Why do I want to punch you?

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Crazy that they are both products of Tough Enough.

Not really. Miz's Tough Enough was just segments on Smackdown. Don't think they ever lived together.

[Lock Jaw]

Kind of miss Swagger's old theme

[Lock Jaw]

Love his current one, but feel like it has been "ruined" via being associated with Jobber Jack for so long......

[Simple Fan]

Every time the guy says We the People and places his hand on his heart, that's patriotic. Is it not? The guy hasn't done anything since Rusev and tonight was the first time he's got to show any character and I liked what I seen.

[Dewidi]

Can someone explain to me how an styles can even be in the title hunt much less champ I'm starting to wonder about the wwe first Kevin Owens now styles. Its as bad as tna

[Volare]

......What?

[hb2k]

miz was always better what morrison promo have u ever herd u gonna look back 10 years from now and go damn that was great

To be fair, what Miz match have you ever watched and thought the same thing.

As for promos, I do like Miz a lot, but it's not as if he's got a catalogue of all-time great promos to his name like the best do. People usually refer to the same three things - the WrestleMania music video that was made for him, the one promo on Raw when he started backstage and walked to the ring talking about being treated like shit, and the one on Daniel Bryan.

[Droford]

James is looking for a Smackdown Live contract so he can afford chin implants.

Slaters shirt but make it I got no Chin / I need this job

[Mr. Nerfect]

So Jack Swagger is going to be given a shot on SmackDown. Do you think they'll put him over Baron Corbin, or is this just a change of scenery for Jobber Jack? I hope he brings in his hot wife to face off with The Miz's hot wife. It's just missing Karl Anderson with his Hot Asian Wife.

Did Curt Hawkins return? I thought that was supposed to be a thing? At this point they might as well keep putting it off, because then at least people will know that he is a heel.

I like John Cena and Dean Ambrose both going for the title. These are pretty much In Your House shows, so they're kind of there to spin the wheels, and the match itself will be amazing.

I guess Alexa Bliss is the #1 Contender for the Women's Championship. It would have made more sense to give it to Natalya to close her feud with Becky, but I suppose that will keep until the Survivor Series, and they need to strike while people are still raving about Alexa Bliss' look. I still expect Nikki Bella vs. Carmella to be added.

Heath Slater & Rhyno defending the Tag Team Titles a lot is the way to go. They have to look like fighting champs and cram a few defenses in before they drop the belts to The Usos at No Mercy. I imagine that Rhyno will then turn on Slater and we'll get The Man Beast putting The Red Dragon over during the winter months.

[Mr. Nerfect]

What has the fucking character done that could be deemed as patriotic lately? Fuck.

He is announced as being a Real American, puts his hand over his chest so that every American within the sound of the ring announcer's voice rises and says along with them "We the People." He's the modern day Jim Duggan, except instead of winning the first-ever Royal Rumble he's a "former World Heavyweight Champion."

[Mr. Nerfect]

He's an American guy like John Cena is an American guy or Hulk Hogan was an American guy or JBL was an American guy or Bubba Ray Dudley was an American guy. If a rotten heel says something bad about America, you can bet Jack Swagger isn't too far from the scene to lose to whoever insults his great nation.

[Ruien]

Nothing he has done lately should make you think he's still doing the patriotic gimmick outside of saying the fucking catchphrase. Why do I want to punch you?

I think his last actually feud was with DEl Rio and that guy on in the wheel chair. He was all pro American there.

To be fair, he hasn't been in a actual feud since. Kind of hard to have a gimmick when you come out once every two months to job to someone.

[owenbrown]

To be fair, what Miz match have you ever watched and thought the same thing.

As for promos, I do like Miz a lot, but it's not as if he's got a catalogue of all-time great promos to his name like the best do. People usually refer to the same three things - the WrestleMania music video that was made for him, the one promo on Raw when he started backstage and walked to the ring talking about being treated like shit, and the one on Daniel Bryan.

You forgot the week after he cashed in MITB and won the title which involved showing reaction shots of "Miz girl" being pissed off.

[owenbrown]

I think his last actually feud was with DEl Rio and that guy on in the wheel chair. He was all pro American there.

To be fair, he hasn't been in a actual feud since. Kind of hard to have a gimmick when you come out once every two months to job to someone.

How in the hell do people forget Zeb Coulter's name?

[Funky Fly is back]

woah calm down there mate

[Anybody Thrilla]

I think his last actually feud was with DEl Rio and that guy on in the wheel chair. He was all pro American there.

To be fair, he hasn't been in a actual feud since. Kind of hard to have a gimmick when you come out once every two months to job to someone.

His most recent promo had very little to do with patriotism outside of the chant. The one from yesterday.

[Anybody Thrilla]

In fact, he mentioned The Rolling Stones (UK) and having a hot wife (JPN).

[Anybody Thrilla]

He also mentioned 'being a problem' (ISIS).

[Big Vic]

Let's not look to far into a shitty Jack Swagger promo.

[Anybody Thrilla]

Not very American to me. He's just trying to leech off of something's previous popula--...

Oh, now I get it.

[Ruien]

How in the hell do people forget Zeb Coulter's name?

The same way I don't know the name of the person tagging with Ryder right now.

[Anybody Thrilla]

I never thought I would say this either, but I think Mojo Rawley has potential.

[Frank Drebin]

Everytime I see Maryse I get the urge to look at her old Playboy pics or watch that video of her in the FCW bikini contest.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

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[Anybody Thrilla]

Not really. Miz's Tough Enough was just segments on Smackdown. Don't think they ever lived together.

It was still a version of Tough Enough. What does living together have to do with it?

[Cool King]

• The opening promo was great and this Cena, I like, but I don't know what Cena did to get a title shot. Anyway, if that promo between the three of them is anything to go by, the weeks leading to No Mercy and the event itself should be good.

• Another great promo between Miz and Ziggler. I actually hope Miz retains at No Mercy and we can see some big developments with Ziggler. He's been good so far, but I just feel a change of some kind is needed. He's spoken about it before but nothing has come of it.

• Corbin vs Crews, cool. But Swagger is on SmackDown! Sure, he looked like he was having some sort of midlife crisis and misses the good ol' days of 2001, with his backwards cap, baggy jeans and a chain hanging out of his pocket, but Swagger on SmackDown is great to see. I really hope this goes somewhere and he isn't just on SmackDown now to job to Corbin. If he is, then hopefully he can make Corbin interesting, because God knows Corbin can't do that himself.

• I can't help but feel that Becky Lynch is somewhat on the "generic face" side. I want to like her and she is good in the ring, but my God keep her away from a mic. Her voice just grates on me. She sounds like she smokes 40 a day. I know she can't help that, but maybe give her a manager to do all the talking for her or something. I dunno.

Also, I'm so happy that Bliss won. Really really happy. Do I think she'll win the title? At this moment in time, no. But that could change and if she is unsuccessful, the journey to get to the title match will be valuable training for her, both in the ring and on the mic. I'm really looking forward to what's to come.

• Seeing the SmackDown Tag Team Championships actually being carried around shows how good they look. They're so much better that Raw's. It's great that the crowd are so behind Slater and his story, even cheering him getting a bigger trailer. The Ascension was a surprise but job they did.

• Finally, I'm pretty disappointed that Hawkins' re-debut was just a backstage segment. I was really looking forward to seeing him in the ring.

Anyway, SmackDown was great as always these days. It's been the number one show in my eyes since SummerSlam. SmackDown just feels more "natural" so to speak. It's flows better and it feels like a totally different show to Raw, in a good way. Raw just feels like a chore to watch and I feel like I'm watching it now purely out of habit, whereas with SmackDown, I legitimately look forward to watching it and the fact that it's only two hours makes a huge difference.

[Cool King]

Also, it was pretty funny that Slater's "Fact Section" or whatever you want to call it on his nameplate, said "Has 7 Kids (That He Knows Of)"

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

It was still a version of Tough Enough. What does living together have to do with it?

It was part of the drama/tension. It wasn't reality TV without it.

[Lock Jaw]

That wasn't the point of the original statement, though..... the statement said they both came from Tough Enough. Yes, different versions of Tough Enough, but still Tough Enough. Statement wasn't that they both came from reality TV.

[Lock Jaw]

Although Miz did come from reality TV before Tough Enough.

[Ruien]

His most recent promo had very little to do with patriotism outside of the chant. The one from yesterday.

Maybe he is dropping the gimmick then? No idea. He had it in his last actual feud though and that is what everyone sees him as. It will change if his gimmick changes.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Did Raw fire him after not hindering Jinder?

[Innovator]

Although Miz did come from reality TV before Tough Enough.

He came from the 5th major sport, the Real World/Road Rules Challenge.

[Big Vic]

I wonder why Cena is so mad at Dean.... a bit Heelish.

[Dewidi]

by the miz refusing to defend his i-c title he is in breach of the champions clause with states a title must be defended ever 30 days and him attacking that jabroni he forgets in owv and his early wwe days that jabroni was him morrison carried that team until miz bulked up and got better.

[DAMN iNATOR]

I definitely agree with Cool King that SD! LIVE has been the "A" show since the Draft. Everything just seems more organic and flows better, IMHO. RAW right now really seems to be sufferin g from an identity crisis right now, with too many appearances on-screen by authority figures and WAY too many jobber squash matches. Clash of Champions not looking so hot right now IMO.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

The head writer of Smackdown was the writer of NXT. Had no previous TV or wrestling experience before he got a job with them, was just a fan and now he's doing some great work. Happy for him.

[Innovator]

Even if you're a ricockulous;y huge fan, lie when you get interviewed.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Even if you're a ricockulous;y huge fan, lie when you get interviewed.

I think they were specifically looking for an apprentice. He went and shadowed people on the main brand before getting the NXT gig.

[XL]

I definitely agree with Cool King that SD! LIVE has been the "A" show since the Draft. Everything just seems more organic and flows better, IMHO. RAW right now really seems to be sufferin g from an identity crisis right now, with too many appearances on-screen by authority figures and WAY too many jobber squash matches. Clash of Champions not looking so hot right now IMO.

You can hardly say SDL doesn't over do the GM/Commisioner appearances.

[XL]

"The Big Problem" Jack Swagger. I kinda like that.

[DAMN iNATOR]

You can hardly say SDL doesn't over do the GM/Commisioner appearances.

They do, I just don't think it's to a somewhat lesser degree.

[Mr. Nerfect]

The head writer of Smackdown was the writer of NXT. Had no previous TV or wrestling experience before he got a job with them, was just a fan and now he's doing some great work. Happy for him.

I thought Ryan Ward was the lead writer as well, but a trip over to Wikipedia challenged that. It lists a guy named Steven Guerrieri as the lead writer for SmackDown. Ward is listed as a writer for RAW, SmackDown and Total Divas.

I'd like to see the personalities in on-air authority roles actually get some sort of creative input (and I'm sure they do, to some extent). Mick and Dewey writing RAW with whatever influences they want to contact (Heyman?) with Shane and Bryan running SmackDown with this Guerrieri fella, since he seems to be doing a decent job.

I was falling asleep, but I generally thought that SmackDown was pretty good. It fell into a few of the traps I really hate. What was the main event going to be before AJ Styles & partner vs. John Cena & Dean Ambrose was signed? But I LOVED their interaction at the start of the show. Even Shane McMahon wasn't annoying and played his part well.

The women's match was pretty good. They seem to work best when they all get limited shine like that. Becky Lynch has been Alexa Bliss' best opponenet so far, so hopefully Becky can drag something fun and watchable out of her at No Mercy. Bliss keeping the Harley Quinn look should be saved for PPVs I think. I'm already getting too used to it. Strike while the iron is hot though, I guess.

Seems like promos were "less scripted" this week. Everybody did a pretty decent job. I worry for Jack Swagger, by getting a more organic look is a step in the right direction. Something about it still seems "phony," but I like the way he kept the "We the People" element but was basically this corn-fed boy from Oklahoma. I've got no clue who they put him against though. Feed him jobbers for a while? I agree with whoever says he needs his old theme back though. "Patriot" was really good for that gimmick, but this incarnation of him needs "Get Down On Your Knees" back. They also need to get him out of a singlet. It doesn't matter if he's not super-chiseled -- the guy would look more brutish in something else. On a side -- I still think that Luke Harper/Jack Swagger would be an amazing incarnation of a Wyatt Family tag team.

Maybe it's because I've never been too into Bray Wyatt, but I'm still generally pretty interested in him. I hope he beats Orton at No Mercy. I agree with JR when he says that his true potential is as a babyface. That doesn't mean they have to job him as a heel though. A clean win over Orton will allow people to start taking him seriously which will be good for a babyface turn. Triple H vs. Bray Wyatt is still the most interesting Triple H match I can think of.

[Mr. Nerfect]

JBL and David Otunga kinda both need to get off commentary though. Mauro and Daniel Bryan would be the right guys to call SmackDown. JBL can be the General Manager that works with Shane. Maybe Bryan forfeits his position because The Miz starts getting to him?JBL could be hilarious on Talking Smack too, if he's allowed to just be himself.

[Anybody Thrilla]

I think Otunga is doing a fine job.

[Mr. Nerfect]

He's fine, but it's unnecessary. Babyface color is really hard to do and just adds clutter. Plus he's put some of the talent in some bad situations. That line a few weeks ago (maybe even at Backlash) where he called the match "must win" for Becky Lynch. Ooh. Don't do that.

Some of the things he says also aren't historically accurate. There was something specific he said on SmackDown that irked me, but I can't remember exactly what it was. He uses his voice well, is working hard and could potentially turn out to be great. Some of the things he says are actually pretty brilliant. But it's hit-and-miss. Far more miss than, say, Matt Striker ever was.

They should give Otunga more time to develop a commentary presence on Superstars and NXT. Graves can be on RAW, Otunga can do NXT and Superstars, Bryan can be on SmackDown, and King can do Main Event.

[Anybody Thrilla]

Why can't something be "must-win" for Becky Lynch?

[Anybody Thrilla]

Also, she won at Backlash, so good for her.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Why can't something be "must-win" for Becky Lynch?

Because if she loses she's fucked.

[Mr. Nerfect]

So many babyfaces say they're going to do something and then fail. How are people meant to seriously invest in them, buy their merchandise, etc.? It may not seem like a big deal right away, but imagine a little kid hearing "Becky Lynch needs to win this," then she fails. Who is going to bet the house on Becky in the future?

[Anybody Thrilla]

But Becky's not even the one who said it. Commentators talk rubbish all the time. I doubt a loss there would have dented her popularity based on his comment there.

[Mr. Nerfect]

He might as well hum show tunes if no one is listening to him then.

[DAMN iNATOR]

I think if you have a prolonged program, it's perfectly fine for the face to faik to deliver in the short-term as long as they keep vowing not to give up or whatever and somehow succeed or win the feud in a decisive manner. It adds another layer to any feud and done right can make for some seriously compelling TV.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Failing to win is not the same as it being must-win and them losing. It's about knowing when the loss builds suspense and galvanizes the fans behind the talent, and when it's a death-blow to credibility.

[Anybody Thrilla]

Commentators are allowed to have opinions. Just because Otunga thinks it's a must-win doesn't make it a literal must-win. You think people took everything Bobby Heenan said as gospel?

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Commentators are allowed to have opinions. Just because Otunga thinks it's a must-win doesn't make it a literal must-win. You think people took everything Bobby Heenan said as gospel?

BUT WHO'S SIDE IS HE ON?!

#Gospel

[Mr. Nerfect]

Commentators are allowed to have opinions. Just because Otunga thinks it's a must-win doesn't make it a literal must-win. You think people took everything Bobby Heenan said as gospel?

If you don't get it then it cannot be explained to you.

[DAMN iNATOR]

BUT WHO'S SIDE IS HE ON?!

#Gospel

AND WHAT DOES IT MEAN FOR A WEEK FROM SUNDAY?!

(Nothing, because Clash of Champions is a RAW-exclusive PPV).

*Apologies to Lock Jaw.

[Anybody Thrilla]

If you don't get it then it cannot be explained to you.

You can save the condescending bullshit. It's not as important as you're making it out to be. It almost seems like you could eat a sandwich and then think "you know, that sandwich was REALLY tasty, but the lettuce could have been slightly more crispy, and the mustard wasn't quite brown enough". We all know you're going to have another sandwich, though. You sound miserable watching this stuff.

I personally think that wrestling is the best it has ever been and I had no clue who the writers are. You barely watch and know every single writing team for every show. If you nitpick to the degree that you do, there's no possible way that you're ever going to enjoy anything. Lighten up. And definitely don't be a dick to me because I CAN lighten up.

[Ruien]

Feel bad for Noid. Wrestling is like his life but he is coming to the realization that he has out grown it and is lashing out.

[Anybody Thrilla]

And now he's alienating all of his wrestling buddies.

...waitaminute...alienating...Alienoid06...

FULL CIRCLE! :eek:

[Simple Fan]

Feel like Noid has a monthly wrestling period. Usually optimistic about everything and then about once a month gets to thinking everything is shit.

[mike adamle]

If you don't get it then it cannot be explained to you.

Naw ABT was pretty spot on.

[Mr. Nerfect]

You can save the condescending bullshit. It's not as important as you're making it out to be. It almost seems like you could eat a sandwich and then think "you know, that sandwich was REALLY tasty, but the lettuce could have been slightly more crispy, and the mustard wasn't quite brown enough". We all know you're going to have another sandwich, though. You sound miserable watching this stuff.

I personally think that wrestling is the best it has ever been and I had no clue who the writers are. You barely watch and know every single writing team for every show. If you nitpick to the degree that you do, there's no possible way that you're ever going to enjoy anything. Lighten up. And definitely don't be a dick to me because I CAN lighten up.

It's like the stuff in the belt thread. If it's explained to you then you'll spin off into straw-man rhetoric about its importance. It's not important, because no one takes David Otunga seriously as an announcer yet anyway. But when you say he is good, I offer some evidence as to why he still has a LONG way to go. And that's fine. He's allowed to be fine -- he's new in the job. If you listen closely to his commentary, you can hear JBL and Mauro dig him out of holes quite a lot. He's just green, man. That's fine, but I'd rather he get his practice on Main Event or something instead of live television, because once people perceive someone as being shit, it's hard to shake that stigma.

I enjoy plenty of things in life. You mentioned sandwiches. Love them. Don't you dare try and project onto my relationship with sandwiches. I personally think wrestling is the most bland it has ever been, and Ruien is right, I do love wrestling and it has been a challenge to get through it over the past two years or so. You're allowed to like it, man, but I don't base my views off subjective feelings anymore. I no longer believe that a guy that does cool movez can necessarily been on top just because he's cool. I got so into this shit that I study what I can, listen to whoever I can with an opinion worth listening to, look for patterns and trends, and understand the psychology of how to draw people.

I enjoy listening to the Squared Circle Gazette guys analyze the Attitude era more than I enjoy seeing Kevin Owens flop around a ring these days. Go have your fun, but I'm not going to have mine the same way just because you like it.

[Anybody Thrilla]

Squared Circle Gazette is amazing. We can at least agree on that.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I agree to agree to that.

[slik]

Only 12 hours until the A Show airs live again

[Mr. Nerfect]

Two matches announced:

* Dean Ambrose vs. John Cena
* The Miz vs. Dolph Ziggler in a Backlash rematch for the Intercontinental Title

Going to make a prediction that I think AJ Styles ends up as the referee in the Cena/Ambrose match, for no other reason than I would find his antics in there hilarious.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Interested to see just what Miz's new contract will allow. Will he be in the main events for as long as he is the IC Champion? Will he have a new entrance? Will he just earn more money per title defence? Will Daniel Bryan have to kowtow every time Miz retains the belt? Tune in Tuesday to find out!

[Ruien]

Did he get a new contract? I thought they were just talking atm.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Maybe. I'd laugh if Miz loses the title and goes to New Japan to be The Hollywood King of Strong Style.