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#BROKEN Hasney
10-08-2016, 07:40 AM
https://i.imgur.com/gWHGQPQ.jpg

I think it would be a great move to be the Netflix of wrestling and charge dedicated fans even more for it. I really hope these plans come to fruition.

#1-norm-fan
10-08-2016, 07:49 AM
Access to Ring of Honor? Huh? Did I miss something?

#BROKEN Hasney
10-08-2016, 08:04 AM
This is what DA MELTZ said about the $15 plan

15 : indy wrestling content. Trying to get TNA obviously, plus talking to sinclair about ROH, as well as Evolve and talking to UK promotions like Progress. Some sort of live chats with wwf wrestlers too, and you get to vote in the Hall of Fame.

Apparently having possible access to all TNA sparked other talks with promotions.

ClockShot
10-08-2016, 08:11 AM
$9.99 plan sounds like the best option until there is clarification on the Ring of Honor option. Obviously, they got the TNA library unless there's some deal in place where WWE has access to whatever Corgan is planning to do with TNA.

Don't really need to pay for "fan perks".

#BROKEN Hasney
10-08-2016, 08:24 AM
$9.99 plan sounds like the best option until there is clarification on the Ring of Honor option. Obviously, they got the TNA library unless there's some deal in place where WWE has access to whatever Corgan is planning to do with TNA.

Don't really need to pay for "fan perks".

Yeah, talking with EVOLVE and Progress about paying for their content too though, so it could be hot.

Lucha Underground plz.

Emperor Smeat
10-08-2016, 09:29 AM
Should just have two tiers as options. The current $10 one that gives all the regular content and then a deluxe/expensive tier that includes the indy stuff and fan perk goodies.

#1-norm-fan
10-08-2016, 12:00 PM
I'll take "free".

Mercenary
10-08-2016, 12:14 PM
I'll take "free".



LOL

Fignuts
10-08-2016, 02:32 PM
Will probably upgrade to 15 for the indy stuff, and offline downloads.

Lock Jaw
10-08-2016, 02:32 PM
Seems "bad"

Destor
10-08-2016, 02:46 PM
This would make money hand over fist.

#1-norm-fan
10-08-2016, 03:36 PM
I don't think it would. I don't think the people who take the $5 upgrade would come anywhere near making up for the money lost with the downgrades.

slik
10-08-2016, 03:43 PM
I would stick with the 9.99 for nXt and the monthly ppvs

SlickyTrickyDamon
10-08-2016, 03:45 PM
What do they mean NXT Live? It's ALL pre-recorded except for TakeOvers.

Ruien
10-08-2016, 03:50 PM
I don't think it would. I don't think the people who take the $5 upgrade would come anywhere near making up for the money lost with the downgrades.

This.

Ruien
10-08-2016, 03:51 PM
They should keep it as is and just offer a upgrade to $14.99 for the extra stuff. Don't give the option for a $4.99 account.

Ruien
10-08-2016, 03:51 PM
Well, keep the free option as the revenue from the commercials will be worth while.

Stickman
10-08-2016, 04:27 PM
I have no problem paying for the wwe network as is, will not spend more on it though.

Mercenary
10-08-2016, 04:35 PM
I would pay for the 14.99 stuff

screech
10-08-2016, 04:47 PM
Offline downloads, no commercials, and TNA/ROH stuff sound good/worth an extra $5.

Cool King
10-08-2016, 04:48 PM
I know it's not possible because of television commitments, but if they found a way to show Raw and SmackDown live or at least have them available to watch the next day or two instead of having to wait a month, then I would be up for that.

The other stuff such as commercials and fan perks and so on, I really don't care about them. I'm happy with the way the network is at the moment, it's just Raw and SmackDown being a month behind on the network that I'm not a fan of and would like to see changed.

Mr. Nerfect
10-08-2016, 04:52 PM
Wait, they're giving away the big four PPVs for $4.99? I dunno, I've never really wrapped my head around how hasty the decision seems to move away from PPV. I can understand them taking the product in-house, but you surely could have had the Network as something you spend $9.99 on for access to the libraries and certain original programming, but then sold your WrestleManias and Takeovers out of it.

Showing EVOLVE is something I've been half-expecting for a while. ROH and TNA being included is somewhat bizarre. It's a good opportunity to bump up pricing, but I think they should also get those "Big Four" events into that upper tier. Showing TNA and ROH allows you to have something to replace PPV events with. You still have access to the same amount of content (more, really) in terms of duration, anyway.

#BROKEN Hasney
10-08-2016, 05:40 PM
They should keep it as is and just offer a upgrade to $14.99 for the extra stuff. Don't give the option for a $4.99 account.

Probably why they're doing the survey. Get a bunch of people who are subscribers and a bunch of non subscribers and see how many people want to upgrade to the Max, downgrade or see that $4.99 is the sweet spot for non subscribers to get on board.

Free tier is probably better than the 30 days free thing as I've heard people create new emails to get the trial for every PPV.

erickman
10-08-2016, 05:44 PM
yeah that 4.99 thing is good around wrestlemania time

Emperor Smeat
10-08-2016, 10:04 PM
What do they mean NXT Live? It's ALL pre-recorded except for TakeOvers.

Probably like how the West Coast gets taped delayed shows compared to the East Coast except in this case its by tiers.

Doubt its actually them following Smackdown with weekly live shows since the costs would skyrocket for them. Wouldn't be getting any extra money from USA Network like they get for Smackdown Live.

DAMN iNATOR
10-09-2016, 12:34 AM
This is what DA MELTZ said about the $15 plan



Apparently having possible access to all TNA sparked other talks with promotions.

Meltzer Sheep,,,

Theo Dious
10-09-2016, 01:57 AM
I'm not paying another 5 bucks to watch shows I'm not watching to begin with, not even to axe commercials.

Disturbed316
10-09-2016, 02:01 AM
Offline content would be awesome. I currently pay around $14 a month due currency conversion but would go up to $20 for offline stuff.

XL
10-09-2016, 08:50 AM
Probably like how the West Coast gets taped delayed shows compared to the East Coast except in this case its by tiers.

Doubt its actually them following Smackdown with weekly live shows since the costs would skyrocket for them. Wouldn't be getting any extra money from USA Network like they get for Smackdown Live.

I think the difference would be you get to watch NXT as its shown "live" on the Network, or as part of the on-demand service maybe 2 days later. But then I guess they'd need two live streams :?:

XL
10-09-2016, 08:53 AM
Personally I'd like somewhere between the 4.99 and 9.99 packages. Living in the UK means I rarely ever watch live so having the ability to do so is lost on me, but the 4.99 deal only leaves you with 4 PPVs. Having said that, virtually everything I watch on the network I can find elsewhere on the net free of charge, it's only the fact I split the cost that I even bother with the Network at all.

Ruien
10-09-2016, 08:55 AM
No idea if HBO is still like this but HBO use to show Game of Thrones live and then like a day later it appeared on the HBO app. I assume it would work like that. Once it is added to the library then the $4.99 people could watch it.

Evil Vito
10-09-2016, 11:05 AM
What's good too is that not only can you cancel at any time, but you can probably switch subscriber levels whenever too.

So $9.99 gets you what you already get...and if you decide to go on a TNA/ROH binge watch you can just upgrade and switch back when you get bored.

Seems cool.

Ruien
10-09-2016, 11:29 AM
Going to be a massive amount of people downgrading to the $4.99 when the RR/Mania months hit.

erickman
10-09-2016, 12:03 PM
Going to be a massive amount of people downgrading to the $4.99 when the RR/Mania months hit.

or people like me who just order it around that time cancel after 5 bucks is better then 10 bucks

The CyNick
10-09-2016, 12:13 PM
Sounds like a great plan, if they can get access to these other libraries. The smarks will love to get access to those bingo hall promotions, and the bingo hall shows will get exposed to maybe 10X the number of people they are now.

To address a couple things. First, from a revenue standpoint, they are ahead of where they were pre Network from PPV/Network. So unless you dont like revenue, it should be pretty clear that the decision to move to Network was a genius move. Especially when you consider that WWE's PPV business was going south. I dont think any stars created since then would have spiked the PPV model for WWE. So they took a declining business and turned it into a growth business. Only the IWC would think thats a bad move. When I say IWC I'm really talking to two people who clearly are still among the least informed people on here. And their hero journalists who feed them their talking points.

About the $5 price point. Its a smart move that will result in more revenues in the long run. You want people to test out the product at $5 for Mania time. Then you hope that the surrounding content is enough to keep the new people around either at $5, or possibly move up to the $10 price point. Maybe even $15 eventually. I dont think many people who pay $10 right now see the Network as a waste of money, in fact based on satisfaction ratings, the Network is seen as great value for their money. Would some really cheap people move from $10 to $5 for a period of time? Maybe, but I can pretty much guarantee they will net out ahead long term.

There's another aspect of this that not shockingly most of you guys missed. I wont get into it, but its there in black and white if you know what to look for. Its an element that will likely drive satisfied customers to the higher tier. And if it doesnt, it will introduce a new revenue stream that will be very profitable for the WWE.

Blue Demon
10-09-2016, 01:34 PM
I don't see an issue. What's wrong with giving people choice?

Ruien
10-09-2016, 02:57 PM
Oh my. CyNick vs the Noid he created like 6 months ago. This will be amazing.

Damian Rey 2.0
10-09-2016, 03:00 PM
Right in time to start the build towards their Wrestlemania rematch

Outsider
10-09-2016, 04:29 PM
Would be very tempted by the $15 option (or £15 as I assume it will be here).

However I would be questioning how much time I actually have for it all. I already don't manage to fit everything they produce a week in.

If there was a British promotion on it though I would 100% do it.

#1-norm-fan
10-09-2016, 05:56 PM
Oh my. CyNick vs the Noid he created like 6 months ago. This will be amazing.

Hopefully it's as amazing as that Bellas feud from a couple years ago that WWE brilliantly ended off camera. Suddenly Noid and Cynick are BFFs out of nowhere and no one knows what the fuck happened. Would be genius.

mrwalty
10-09-2016, 06:02 PM
Is there an option to filter out all the 'you deserve it' and 'this is awesome' chants every 5 mins into the matches?

Outsider
10-09-2016, 06:08 PM
Is there an option to filter out all the 'you deserve it' and 'this is awesome' chants every 5 mins into the matches?

Yes.

Simply watch the vast amount of 2001-2011 when everything was shite.

Mr. Nerfect
10-10-2016, 08:16 AM
Sounds like a great plan, if they can get access to these other libraries. The smarks will love to get access to those bingo hall promotions, and the bingo hall shows will get exposed to maybe 10X the number of people they are now.

To address a couple things. First, from a revenue standpoint, they are ahead of where they were pre Network from PPV/Network. So unless you dont like revenue, it should be pretty clear that the decision to move to Network was a genius move. Especially when you consider that WWE's PPV business was going south. I dont think any stars created since then would have spiked the PPV model for WWE. So they took a declining business and turned it into a growth business. Only the IWC would think thats a bad move. When I say IWC I'm really talking to two people who clearly are still among the least informed people on here. And their hero journalists who feed them their talking points.

About the $5 price point. Its a smart move that will result in more revenues in the long run. You want people to test out the product at $5 for Mania time. Then you hope that the surrounding content is enough to keep the new people around either at $5, or possibly move up to the $10 price point. Maybe even $15 eventually. I dont think many people who pay $10 right now see the Network as a waste of money, in fact based on satisfaction ratings, the Network is seen as great value for their money. Would some really cheap people move from $10 to $5 for a period of time? Maybe, but I can pretty much guarantee they will net out ahead long term.

There's another aspect of this that not shockingly most of you guys missed. I wont get into it, but its there in black and white if you know what to look for. Its an element that will likely drive satisfied customers to the higher tier. And if it doesnt, it will introduce a new revenue stream that will be very profitable for the WWE.

God, I fucking hate you. You're going to turn me babyface again, aren't you?

Mr. Nerfect
10-10-2016, 08:40 AM
As usual with CyNick: Something resembling a good point, actually missing the point. There's no way you can understand this, but here goes: No one is saying that the WWE isn't making some money; people are just saying that they could be making more money.

Shockingly you seem to miss that.

Evil Vito
10-10-2016, 09:35 AM
At what point do Noid and CyNick point to the TPWWMania sign?

Mr. Nerfect
10-10-2016, 05:28 PM
I've been pointing for months and months and months, but CyNick has been hiding in his castle of smug faux-intellectualism and Trump support.

Evil Vito
10-11-2016, 10:16 AM
The only question now is whether Noid and CyNick will be booked in a pure grudge match or if the powers that be will hotshot the TPWW World Title onto CyNick while Noid wins the Royal Forumble to set up the match.

#BROKEN Hasney
10-11-2016, 10:29 AM
At what point do Noid and CyNick point to the TPWWMania sign?

The only question now is whether Noid and CyNick will be booked in a pure grudge match or if the powers that be will hotshot the TPWW World Title onto CyNick while Noid wins the Royal Forumble to set up the match.

I mean, the new TNA will have PPVs. No need to make the event a bigger deal than it needs to be.

#BROKEN Hasney
10-11-2016, 10:30 AM
Bound for Shitposting

The CyNick
10-11-2016, 10:32 AM
God, I fucking hate you. You're going to turn me babyface again, aren't you?

Maybe in bizzaro world. I'm successful, intelligent, and bring real facts to the table. You bring rumors and innuendo you read in the dirt sheets. If that makes me the heel in this territory, then that's the cross I will bear.

The CyNick
10-11-2016, 10:33 AM
As usual with CyNick: Something resembling a good point, actually missing the point. There's no way you can understand this, but here goes: No one is saying that the WWE isn't making some money; people are just saying that they could be making more money.

Shockingly you seem to miss that.

So based on your experience running a sports entertainment company which of the record high revenues are WWE leaving money on the table on?

The CyNick
10-11-2016, 10:38 AM
The only question now is whether Noid and CyNick will be booked in a pure grudge match or if the powers that be will hotshot the TPWW World Title onto CyNick while Noid wins the Royal Forumble to set up the match.

I always thought I was the champ of this place. If I'm not, it's a travesty to the championship.

Beyond that I don't see what Noid had done to earn a shot at me. I would sooner test my skills against a real asset to this place like Heyman. At least that would be a gentleman's contest.

Big Vic
10-11-2016, 11:36 AM
I'm the champ Cynick, and you'll never beat me for the title!

*Small Package 1-2-3. New Champ!*

:mad:

Mr. Nerfect
10-14-2016, 04:17 AM
Maybe in bizzaro world. I'm successful, intelligent, and bring real facts to the table. You bring rumors and innuendo you read in the dirt sheets. If that makes me the heel in this territory, then that's the cross I will bear.

No, you don't. You misrepresent facts using fallacious arguments in order to present half a story. You also project onto others and generalize arguments so you can jack-off. And when people smarter than you disagree with either what you say or how you say it, you cry that you're not understood and appeal to authority.

I get that you're trolling, but you're no Bad News Gertner. You're not even a King Gertner.

The CyNick
10-14-2016, 09:13 AM
No, you don't. You misrepresent facts using fallacious arguments in order to present half a story. You also project onto others and generalize arguments so you can jack-off. And when people smarter than you disagree with either what you say or how you say it, you cry that you're not understood and appeal to authority.

I get that you're trolling, but you're no Bad News Gertner. You're not even a King Gertner.

100% SHOOT brotha, Im a LEGIT genius, so hard to imagine anyone here is smarter than me. Unless like Vince is lurking.

As for trolling, that's not my style Sounds like you are projecting, because when I made my latest GLORIOUS return, you said you would be turned babyface. Indicating you are playing a heel on here. Difference between you and me is I'm not playing a part, I'm as real as it gets.

Anybody Thrilla
10-14-2016, 05:39 PM
Hall of Fame voting? Really?

Mr. Nerfect
10-19-2016, 11:08 PM
The fans can put James Ellsworth in.

erickman
10-20-2016, 08:03 AM
Hall of Fame voting? Really?

we can vote in scot stiener and jim cornette

Ruien
10-20-2016, 08:29 AM
Hall of Fame voting? Really?

Maybe they are running out of ideas for major headliners and need the WWE Universe to selave the day!

Shadrick
10-20-2016, 08:38 AM
100% SHOOT brotha, Im a LEGIT genius, so hard to imagine anyone here is smarter than me. Unless like Vince is lurking.

As for trolling, that's not my style Sounds like you are projecting, because when I made my latest GLORIOUS return, you said you would be turned babyface. Indicating you are playing a heel on here. Difference between you and me is I'm not playing a part, I'm as real as it gets.

168 IQ here. 100% shoot.

Droford
10-20-2016, 09:08 AM
Hall of Fame voting? Really?

I was thinking Benoit

The CyNick
10-20-2016, 06:18 PM
168 IQ here. 100% shoot.

Well you're close

Shadrick
10-21-2016, 09:26 AM
Well you're close

Yours?

Mr. Nerfect
10-23-2016, 04:04 AM
Shadrick > CyNick

He went to WrestleMania X-8 you know.

Blue Demon
10-23-2016, 09:41 AM
I have also gone to WrestleMania X8

#BROKEN Hasney
10-23-2016, 09:47 AM
I was thinking Benoit

we can vote in scot stiener and jim cornette

Probably from a pre-approved list.

erickman
10-23-2016, 10:25 AM
yeah they probly want members of the kiss vinces ass club

Cool King
10-23-2016, 10:28 AM
I'm all for Regal being in the Hall of Fame.

erickman
10-23-2016, 10:43 AM
I'm all for Regal being in the Hall of Fame.

I am surprised he is not in already his wrestling days ended a few years ago and trips loves him

Mr. Nerfect
10-23-2016, 09:09 PM
Shadrick > CyNick

He went to WrestleMania X-8 you know.

Wait, I totally confused Shadrick for Shisen because I saw the "S". Maybe Shadrick did go to WMX8? Did you, Shadrick?

If so, how was it?

Mr. Nerfect
10-23-2016, 09:10 PM
I'm all for Regal being in the Hall of Fame.

I can see him going in. If he goes in next year with Goldberg it'd make for a humorous point of conversation in Regal's speech.