Smackdown Live 10/11 feat. Wyatts vs Demon RKO, Ziggy vs Squad of the Spirit, and the demise of Hawkins Facts

[Emperor Smeat]

http://www.wwe.com/f/styles/wwe_16_9_l/public/all/2016/10/20161010_SD_Preview_KaneOrtonBrayHarper--86c7dd489d961c8972c132d369c1602a.jpg

SmackDown preview, Oct. 11, 2016: The Demon & The Viper enter dark territory

After Luke Harper reemerged to help Bray Wyatt conquer Randy Orton at No Mercy, The Viper has entitled the assistance of a Demon with no love for The New Face of Fear.

With Becky Lynch unable to defend her championship at No Mercy against Alexa Bliss, Naomi stepped in on short notice to take on the No. 1 contender, defeating Bliss after a rough and tumble, back and forth battle.

Bliss was guaranteed her championship match Nov. 8 in Glasgow, Scotland, upon Lynch’s return, but now, with Naomi’s victory, does The Glow have a legitimate case to being added to the immediate title picture?
:lol: at Naomi's new nickname being The Glow.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">We promise we will never do that <a href="https://twitter.com/RandyOrton">@RandyOrton</a> swirly face thing again <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ReasonsToWatchSmackDown?src=hash">#ReasonsToWatchSmackDown</a></p>&mdash; WWE Creative Humor (@WWECreative_ish) <a href="https://twitter.com/WWECreative_ish/status/785854988715188224">October 11, 2016</a></blockquote>
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[ClockShot]

YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH! HARPER'S BACK!

And Dolph finally beat The Miz. So,

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[ClockShot]

Styles won, too. That's huge.

[Lock Jaw]

Lock Jaw is here

[Lock Jaw]

Are fans gonna chant "You deserve it" anytime anyone wins a title now.......

(Anyone they don't hate)

[Emperor Smeat]

:lol: production botch for Ziggy's music.

[ClockShot]

Pretty sure that "You deserve it" chant is now in rotation with the rest of the "piped in" chants.

[Droford]

Dolph should still quit

[Lock Jaw]

"Refreshing" that Dolph isn't just yelling through this entire promo

Oh wait, there he goes yelling

[ClockShot]

Info button pushed. Description from Comcast is as follows:

"A recap of No Mercy, including the three-way battle for world champion, and a look at Dolph Ziggler's exit from WWE."

No lie.

[Lock Jaw]

Miz and Maryse in mourning

[Droford]

Dressed for a funeral

[ClockShot]

Someone's dressed for a funeral.

[Lock Jaw]

Info button pushed. Description from Comcast is as follows:

"A recap of No Mercy, including the three-way battle for world champion, and a look at Dolph Ziggler's exit from WWE."

No lie.

Mine says "No Mercy PPV results: Who is the World Champion? Was Dolph Ziggler forced to quit the WWE?"

[Droford]

Info button pushed. Description from Comcast is as follows:

"A recap of No Mercy, including the three-way battle for world champion, and a look at Dolph Ziggler's exit from WWE."

No lie.

Mine says "Was dolph Ziggler forced to quit WWE"

[Emperor Smeat]

Info button pushed. Description from Comcast is as follows:

"A recap of No Mercy, including the three-way battle for world champion, and a look at Dolph Ziggler's exit from WWE."

No lie.

Mine just says "Was Dolph Ziggler forced to quit the WWE?" for Ziggy stuff.

[slik]

Miz is soooooo good!

[Droford]

It's 2016 and the Miz is the best thing happening in the WWE.

What

[ClockShot]

:wtf:

They're still running with this?

[Poit]

I was not watching when the Spirit Squad was new. Were they always this... unbearable?

[slik]

I LOVED the Spirit Squad @ Poit

[Lock Jaw]

I was not watching when the Spirit Squad was new. Were they always this... unbearable?

The same, but there were MORE OF THEM

[Emperor Smeat]

:eek: They brought back the split screen stuff for commercials.

Give it about another break or two before that gets suddenly shelved again.

[ClockShot]

Anybody else still got the match on TV with commercials right now?

[slik]

Spirit Squad vs HHH/HBK was a good feud IMO!

[slik]

Yay, split screen is back! #AShow has no time for breaks!

[Lock Jaw]

I got breaks, no split screen

[Lock Jaw]

Mikey rassled in the local fed here on one of the shows we covered......

[Lock Jaw]

Ha ha Mauro "OH MY GOD HE KILLED KENNY"

[Droford]

Lol

[ClockShot]

OH MY GOD! HE KILLED KENNY!

[Poit]

Ha ha Mauro "OH MY GOD HE KILLED KENNY"

That bastard!

[Lock Jaw]

Kenny looks simultaneously emaciated and ripped to shreds

[Droford]

6 man tag playas

[ClockShot]

Side note, Kenny Dykstra's been hitting the gym.

Maybe if he's really nice he'll get another shot with the company.

[slik]

Happy Thanksgiving @ LOCH JAH!

[Poit]

Rhyno vs. the Spirit Squad in 2016.

Let that sink in (maaaaaan).

[slik]

YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

[Emperor Smeat]

Really odd having Slater and Rhyno save Ziggler outta nowhere.

[ClockShot]

Really odd having Slater and Rhyno save Ziggler outta nowhere.

I don't know about Slater. But Rhyno's campaign slogan is "He'll Fight for You!".

[Dark One]

I was not watching when the Spirit Squad was new. Were they always this... unbearable?

That's the gimmick.

[slik]

They should bring back the Spirit Squad's trampoline

[slik]

https://ringthedamnbell.files.wordpress.com/2015/12/spirits.jpg

[Dark One]

I don't know about Slater. But Rhyno's campaign slogan is "He'll Fight for You!".

Slater probably just thought Ziggler was one of his kids, given that one of them got murdered on Raw on Monday.

[slik]

http://www.wrestlestars.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/The-Spirit-Squad.jpg

[ClockShot]

BUY THE GAME!!!!!!!!

[slik]

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[Evil Vito]

Oh for fuck's sake....interpromotional matches already.

[Emperor Smeat]

Slater probably just thought Ziggler was one of his kids, given that one of them got murdered on Raw on Monday.

Or maybe Ziggler gave Slater some of his champion money for him to keep his double wide trailer and new pool.

[Lock Jaw]

5 on 5 tag team elimination match....... 20 people......

[Emperor Smeat]

:lol: JBL

[ClockShot]

Fuck 'em up Smackdown!

[Dark One]

Survivor Series is....

BRAGGING RIGHTS.

[slik]

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view/94318/d-generation-x-o.gif

[Evil Vito]

I was not watching when the Spirit Squad was new. Were they always this... unbearable?

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Their debut is still one of the top watching live "what the fuck is going on?" moments for me.

[Lock Jaw]

Y'all FEELING THE GLOW?!

[KIRA]

If she only wrestled as good as her entrance

[Lock Jaw]

Still wish they didn't put Carmella into pants for the main roster.....

[KIRA]

I'm just here to see Bray Wyatt brag and andmire Harpers newfound brunette locks

[Emperor Smeat]

I like to think the inspiration for Naomi's new character was some guy on Creative wanting her to channel her inner Polka Dot Dusty Rhodes, someone else wanting to impress Vince with another dance gimmick, and a third guy being high saying "why not both?"

[slik]

Carmella sucks

[KIRA]

God Carmella can't even hop the barrier

with even moderate athleticism you can vault over with one hand

[ClockShot]

Alright, seriously. Someone die?

Half the roster wearing black right now.

[ClockShot]

AJ Styles victory speech.

Set your DVRs.

[KIRA]

I like to think the inspiration for Naomi's new character was some guy on Creative wanting her to channel her inner Polka Dot Dusty Rhodes, someone else wanting to impress Vince with another dance gimmick, and a third guy being high saying "why not both?"

The result was magic though.....I can't wait for Asuka to kick her in the head

[slik]

Carmella should go back to whatever is before NXT, unemployment or w/e

[Poit]

Oh for fuck's sake....interpromotional matches already.

It's the second Big 4 PPV since the brand split. Seems fine to me.

[Poit]

http://67.media.tumblr.com/cf3af7548a54cf0613fe5617ee06a962/tumblr_n7v3fiphIX1rg89a6o2_500.jpg

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I don't know the context for this, but hello champs.

[Poit]

Daniel Bryan sitting awkwardly, not knowing where to rest his feet. That seems incredibly appropriate somehow.

[Emperor Smeat]

Alright, seriously. Someone die?

Half the roster wearing black right now.

They are in mourning over the death of Miz's IC reign.

[Lock Jaw]

Usos in black

[slik]

like their heart

[Lock Jaw]

I think they need to bring Kurt Angle in ASAP to make people care about American Alpha

[slik]

Uso's join a long list of wrestlers to rock the jeans in the ring

[Lock Jaw]

Ascension AIN'T HYPE!

[KIRA]

I didn't think I could hate Mojo Riley any more then I saw that fucking stupid hat.

[Lock Jaw]

KIRA AIN'T HYPE!

[ClockShot]

THEY DON'T WANT NONE!

[Droford]

I want Shane and Bryan to show up on RAW to convince Goldberg to go to SD

[Droford]

THEY DON'T WANT NONE!

They want some then.

[KIRA]

great reference Morello.

(Samsung prepares lawsuit)

[Emperor Smeat]

Are they booing because they don't like Cena or because they can't chant for Cena right now?

[Droford]

AJs beard and laugh are familiar

[KIRA]

I just could never have seen AJ Styles being pushed to the moon like he has been.

[Emperor Smeat]

:lol: The Chinless Guy again

[Droford]

Lol

[ClockShot]

This guy's back.

[KIRA]

The weak chin wunderkind is back!

[slik]

James Elworth for next WWE Champ please

[Dark One]

I had no doubt it was Ellsworth.

[Droford]

Lol he's gonna win since its non title

[Dark One]

ELLSWORTH 3:16

[ClockShot]

"Take a shower, hit the weights, get a clue"

- Kevin Nash.

[slik]

I really want Elsworth to win tbh

[KIRA]

James Elworth somehow looks like an old man and a baby

ref has some guns

[Droford]

Lol the refs shirt fit

[Dark One]

lol at Ambrose stealing Asian Ref's shirt.

[Dark One]

lol at Ambrose's flask.

[KIRA]

split screen

[slik]

Mila Kunis should manage James Elsworth

[KIRA]

are you guys seeing this

[ClockShot]

Hey, picture in picture again.

[Droford]

He hit an armdrag woo

[ClockShot]

"Bad to the chin bone"

Mauro's cookin' tonight.

[Emperor Smeat]

:n: Otunga besmirching the great Chinless One.

[slik]

anyone who talks shit on james elsworth will be banned from the wrestling forum #modPowersbaby!

[KIRA]

I'm on team Elsworth to be honest

[Droford]

Plant

[Emperor Smeat]

Holy shit Ellsworth came really close to breaking his neck on the Clash.

[KIRA]

I know it looks bad but Elsworth is consrvinhg his strength to mount a comback that would make Cena blush

[ClockShot]

Ellsworth didn't take that clash right.

[Poit]

Yeah... it looked like Ellsworth tucked his head in. That didn't look good.

[Droford]

Lol

[ClockShot]

Pfft.

[Dark One]

Better or worse than the time that the Brooklyn Brawler beat Triple H?

[Emperor Smeat]

:D ELLSWORTH WINS.

Greatest victory in WWE history since that time Taka, Funaki, and Brooklyn Brawler beat Triple H.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=318cfWjbfys

[Droford]

RKaneO

[Dark One]

What a time to be alive.

[KIRA]

YES THE BOYHOOD DREAM HAS COME TRUE!

fuck the haters and nonbelievers

#ElsworthWORLDTOUR

[Lock Jaw]

I think a new boom era is coming

[slik]

James Elsworth is the GOAT

[Dark One]

Holy shit Ellsworth came really close to breaking his neck on the Clash.

Ellsworth didn't take that clash right.

He doesn't exactly have a chin to tuck.

[Lock Jaw]

I can see how that could get confusing

[owenbrown]

anyone who talks shit on james elsworth will be banned from the wrestling forum #modPowersbaby!

If I talk great about him, is there any way I could be mod/admin? :shifty:

[Dark One]

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[Bad News Gertner]

Way to make your World Champion look terrible. What the fuck is with this company?

[ClockShot]

BREAK IT DOWN!

[Droford]

Bully Ray debut/return immanent

[Lock Jaw]

Luring the viewers back for next week with the promise of more Ellesworth

[Lock Jaw]

ELLESWORTH ON TALKING SMACK?!

Becomes a must watch

[ClockShot]

YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH!

[Dark One]

That Talking Smack bumper is the greatest bumper picture of all time.

[Lock Jaw]

Odds on Luke Harper eating an RKO tonight?

[Evil Vito]

Yeah......nothing against James Ellsworth but that whole thing made next to no sense to me.

Why is Daniel Bryan, face GM, openly screwing with his World Champion to the degree where it was very obvious that he was going to be jobbing to a chinless version of Colin Delaney?

Why is every face in this company booked like a complete asshole?

[Bad News Gertner]

Yeah......nothing against James Ellsworth but that whole thing made next to no sense to me.

Why is Daniel Bryan, face GM, openly screwing with his World Champion to the degree where it was very obvious that he was going to be jobbing to a chinless version of Colin Delaney?

Why is every face in this company booked like a complete asshole?

Exactly! It's your world champion ffs!

[Emperor Smeat]

Did the WWE forget about Curt Hawkins debut tonight?

[Lock Jaw]

Did I miss Curt Hawkins, or is this match ending quick and Hawkins is main eventing? Thought he was supposed to have a match tonight......

[Evil Vito]

And then you have Shane telling Styles afterwards that he has no right to be mad at Ambrose or Bryan. Why not? What is he supposed to feel?

So stupid.

[ClockShot]

Missed ya, Luke.

[Emperor Smeat]

Yeah......nothing against James Ellsworth but that whole thing made next to no sense to me.

Why is Daniel Bryan, face GM, openly screwing with his World Champion to the degree where it was very obvious that he was going to be jobbing to a chinless version of Colin Delaney?

Why is every face in this company booked like a complete asshole?

Nothing new for the WWE since unless your Cena or Reigns (or Triple H during his reigns), they haven't cared about protecting their champs for years.

Same for using the Cena mold for almost every big face star on the roster.

[Evil Vito]

I'm pretty sure that Curt Hawkins is going to be released again before he ever has a match.

[Lock Jaw]

Really want Luke Harper to turn on Bray Wyatt for some reason........

[Evil Vito]

Oh and I think I finally figured out who Mojo Rawley reminds me of.

Remember that Always Sunny episode where Dee starts dating a white rapper and the gang all think he's retarded, but it turns out he's not actually retarded?

That's Mojo Rawley.

[Lock Jaw]

Faces are assholes because Vince is an asshole, but thinks he is the greatest guy on the planet, and so the faces need to act like him.

[KIRA]

I want Harper's coat

Where is Rowan

[Bad News Gertner]

Like this is really making me annoyed. James Ellsworth shouldn't be wrestling in the opening match of some backwoods indie fed, let alone beating your world champion in the biggest company in the world. And you wonder why nobody gets taken serious. Fuck sakes.

[Evil Vito]

Rowan's hurt and expected to be out around 6 months.

Poor Wyatt can never get the whole Family together at once.

[Lock Jaw]

Oh and I think I finally figured out who Mojo Rawley reminds me of.

Remember that Always Sunny episode where Dee starts dating a white rapper and the gang all think he's retarded, but it turns out he's not actually retarded?

That's Mojo Rawley.

Ha ha..... I can see that......

[Poit]

So... does Kane take the pin, or does he join the Wyatts?

[Evil Vito]

Like this is really making me annoyed. James Ellsworth shouldn't be wrestling in the opening match of some backwoods indie fed, let alone beating your world champion in the biggest company in the world. And you wonder why nobody gets taken serious. Fuck sakes.

In WWE land, holding a championship means you have a golden ticket to job as much as possible and yet supposedly never lose any momentum or credibility. It's ridiculous.

And literally every face acts like a dickhead.

[KIRA]

Like this is really making me annoyed. James Ellsworth shouldn't be wrestling in the opening match of some backwoods indie fed, let alone beating your world champion in the biggest company in the world. And you wonder why nobody gets taken serious. Fuck sakes.

But he lost because Ambrose was fucking with him

I agree about DB being an asshole when he's supposed to be a face/neutral

They love doing their champions like this though I don't know why unless you are Named Roman or Brock Lesnar you can expect a losing streak

[Innovator]

So... does Kane take the pin, or does he join the Wyatts?

No one should join the Wyatts

[Evil Vito]

I mean, with the brand split going on both GMs should be neutral. Their only agenda should be to put on the best show possible.

Miss the days of Jack Tunney where you'd rarely ever see him.

[slik]

Kane teaming with Bray...never thought of that...interesting @ poit

[slik]

also @ bad news gertner

U CAN GO 2 HAYELL

[slik]

If I talk great about him, is there any way I could be mod/admin? :shifty:

Only if you ban Gertner 4 life for talking ill of King GOAT James Ellsworth and the A-Show.

[owenbrown]

Only if you ban Gertner 4 life for talking ill of King GOAT James Ellsworth and the A-Show.

DEAL!

[KIRA]

I see Harper also took his riches and invested in a new pair of filthy pants
let his hair go back to seed tho

[Droford]

I hate how SD can't even get 5 seconds of over run

[slik]

Bray Wyatt begging Orton not to hurt him b/c Bray now fears the Viper

[ClockShot]

WE'RE OUTTA TIME!

[Lock Jaw]

They magically teleported Kane!!

[Emperor Smeat]

:eek: Luke Harper was never injured. He's been Kane the whole time.

[Poit]

They magically teleported Kane!!

https://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/SRD:Baleful_Transposition

[Droford]

And Kane was never seen again

[KIRA]

I got in at about 7:30 did Dolph or Miz ever show up?

[slik]

KANE HAS EVAPORATED BAH GAWD KEENG NOT THIS WAY

[DAMN iNATOR]

Connection was out until the main event. I think tonight was good but not quite great. Still the 'A'-Show.

[DAMN iNATOR]

KANE HAS EVAPORATED BAH GAWD KEENG NOT THIS WAY

MAH GAHD! HE NEARLY TELEPORTED HIM IN HALF! BRAY WYATT IS A DAMN JEZEBEL!!!!!!

[Evil Vito]

It would be funny/sad if they actually decided to write Kane off like that. 20 years in the company and he just vanishes in the middle of a match on a random SmackDown.

[slik]

I would love that actually @Vito Cruz

[Emperor Smeat]

I got in at about 7:30 did Dolph or Miz ever show up?

They were both in the start of the show. Both did their promos and then Ziggler had a handicap match against the Spirit Squad.

[DAMN iNATOR]

DEAL!

You will do nothing of the kind!

[Emperor Smeat]

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[slik]

Vito Cruise

Vito Ted Cruz

Vito Tom Cruise

Vito Risky Business

Vito Top Gun

Vito McGuire


lots of Vito name change possibilities in my head r/n

[Evil Vito]

I wouldn't mind a name change.....it's been 5 years with this one which oddly coincides with the beginning of the gradual downfall of TPWW.

[Lock Jaw]

D-Bry announced that next week, it will be James Ellsworth vs. AJ Styles for the WWE World Heavyweight Title.

[slik]

Let's go King GOAT James Ellsworth!!

F*** Gertner

[Bad News Gertner]

So fucking stupid. Like could you imagine one of the Mulkey's besting Ric Flair or Frank Williams beating Hogan? No, because it makes them look like birches and kills any credibility that they have

[RP]

I'm not watching this show. I've scroled through this page 5 and i cant tell whats going on. Go FUCK ALL OF YOURSELVES!

[RP]

So fucking stupid. Like could you imagine one of the Mulkey's besting Ric Flair or Frank Williams beating Hogan? No, because it makes them look like birches and kills any credibility that they have

context motherfucker do you speak it!

[Poit]

So fucking stupid. Like could you imagine one of the Mulkey's besting Ric Flair or Frank Williams beating Hogan? No, because it makes them look like birches and kills any credibility that they have

Or the Hurricane beating the Rock.

[Bad News Gertner]

Hurricane was a regular talent. Ellsworth isn't even Brooklyn Brawler level.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

So fucking stupid. Like could you imagine one of the Mulkey's besting Ric Flair or Frank Williams beating Hogan? No, because it makes them look like birches and kills any credibility that they have

Doesn't matter it was Ambrose as a crooked ref. People will not take it seriously and then he dies next week.

[Dark One]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">EXCLUSIVE: Why didn't <a href="https://twitter.com/TheCurtHawkins">@TheCurtHawkins</a> make his in-ring debut on <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/SDLive?src=hash">#SDLive</a> tonight? The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/PrinceOfQueens?src=hash">#PrinceOfQueens</a> explains... <a href="https://t.co/ca03kS677t">pic.twitter.com/ca03kS677t</a></p>&mdash; WWE (@WWE) <a href="https://twitter.com/WWE/status/786047066950606848">October 12, 2016</a></blockquote>
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[Triple A]

watching now via YouTube

Dolph Ziggler character so fr**king boring... ZZZZŽZZZZZZZ

[slik]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/thewadekeller">@thewadekeller</a> James Ellsworth now has a better win/loss record in the WWE than Sting.</p>&mdash; Jeric (@AznKnight613) <a href="https://twitter.com/AznKnight613/status/786098286851723264">October 12, 2016</a></blockquote>
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[Rammsteinmad]

David Otunga at one point claiming that Dolph Ziggler was on the "hottest run of his life"... coz he won one match? :wtf:

Spirit Squad are cool! Loved 'em back in the day. Though they were an incredibly energetic and entertaining bunch.

Raw vs Smackdown Survivor Series match? Urgh. Seems too early in the brand split to be doing cross-brand matches.

Isn't Luke Harper meant to be on Raw?

[Rammsteinmad]

Also it's brilliantly hilarious how over James Ellsworth is as a jobber haha.

[Innovator]

Champ that runs the camp vs Chin for the win

[Big Vic]

Hurricane was a regular talent. Ellsworth isn't even Brooklyn Brawler level.
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[Big Vic]

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[Evil Vito]

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[mike adamle]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">EXCLUSIVE: Why didn't <a href="https://twitter.com/TheCurtHawkins">@TheCurtHawkins</a> make his in-ring debut on <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/SDLive?src=hash">#SDLive</a> tonight? The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/PrinceOfQueens?src=hash">#PrinceOfQueens</a> explains... <a href="https://t.co/ca03kS677t">pic.twitter.com/ca03kS677t</a></p>&mdash; WWE (@WWE) <a href="https://twitter.com/WWE/status/786047066950606848">October 12, 2016</a></blockquote>
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[Evil Vito]

Need a few more people to post it :shifty:

[Big Vic]

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[Innovator]

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[Cool King]

• I'm a bit surprised that Kenny & Mikey are still appearing and that they actually had a match. If they are back for the long haul, then I feel that maybe they should drop The Spirit Squad name and gimmick.

I feel it just doesn't work as a duo. It seems awkward having two guys coming out calling themselves a squad when you know fine well that two other guys are missing. As they've aligned themselves with The Miz, why not just keep their names as Kenny and Mikey but call their tag team something that works with The Miz and his movie star gimmick. Something like "The Extras", I dunno.

• Why is Carmella still here? I really feel going back to NXT will help her, especially when it comes to doing simple things, like jumping over barriers.

• I was beginning to feel slightly annoyed at Mojo during that backstage segment for the first time. I still feel he'd be better off as a heel that just destroys everyone, like a new Ryback.

• It was nice to see Daniel Bryan coming out channeling his inner Kerwin White. Also, the whole James Ellsworth thing is funny I guess, but that match was just a bit too long for my liking. It would have been fine if it was about five minutes, but it was twelve minutes. If it was five, we could have actually had Curt Hawkins' match too.

• It's good to see Luke Harper back and I see that his bald patch has gotten bigger. I am now though beginning to grow a bit tired of Orton vs Wyatt but I would like to see Harper go up against Orton. As for Wyatt, I dunno. I've never really been all that big on Wyatt, so he's probably the reason why I'm growing tired of his thing with Orton.

• SmackDown was still better than Raw this week but I am noticing a slight decline in SmackDown, but hopefully it's just a little blip and all will be well next week.

It should be though as we'll hopefully see Curt Hawkins' debut match.

[Cool King]

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I've never liked the Styles Clash, mostly because of the big risk factor of leaving someone quadriplegic if it goes wrong.

[KIRA]

I've never liked the Styles Clash, mostly because of the big risk factor of leaving someone quadriplegic if it goes wrong.

Ive always thought it was in a weird spot, if done right the Styles clash looks weak as shit like it couldn't finish a match with Brad Maddox but the natural inclination to tuck your head makes it one of the most potentially fatal moves in wrestling.

[Evil Vito]

It should be though as we'll hopefully see Curt Hawkins' debut match.

FACT: That will not happen.

[Fignuts]

So fucking stupid. Like could you imagine one of the Mulkey's besting Ric Flair or Frank Williams beating Hogan? No, because it makes them look like birches and kills any credibility that they have

Settle down, Cornette.

[XL]

Thought it was a good show this week. The stuff with Elsworth was harmless (apart from the potential for broken neck).

I was hoping we'd have something move off in a different direction but it looks like we're still rolling with Styles/Ambrose, Ziggler/Miz, Orton/Wyatt, guess they only really need TV feuds going into Survivor Series though.

[The CyNick]

I would suspect all those programs are going through December. Styles v Ambrose in a TLC match seems like a logical conclusion to their program.

Miz vs Ziggler in a ladder match seems logical as well.

All those programs can be paused because Survivor Series will be mostly RAW v SDL matches. Put their differences aside for the sake of the brand winning.

[Big Vic]

Thats 3 matches plus Lesnar/Goldberg. I would guess we would get AJ vs Orton at TLC.

[screech]

Man, I do not give a shit about this James Ellsworth guy.

[The CyNick]

Thats 3 matches plus Lesnar/Goldberg. I would guess we would get AJ vs Orton at TLC.

Depends how they are treating Survivor Series. My guess is the top guys on SD are in the elimination match. If they don't, then yeah you can blowoff Orton v Wyatt and Ambrose v Styles at Survivor Series. But if you have those guys in separate matches, then who is left to rep SD?

My guess is possibly Orton v Wyatt happens at SS, which leaves Styles, Ziggler, Miz, Ambrose and maybe Corbin in the elimination match.

[Lock Jaw]

Miz, Ziggler, Corbin, Kane, and Apollo Cruise vs. Sami Zayn, Neville, Chris Jericho, Braun Strowman, and Titus O'Neil.

Heath Slater & Rhyno, American Alpha, Usos, Hype Bros, and Ascension vs. New Day, Enzo & Cass, Gallows & Anderson, Golden Truth, and Cesaro & Sheamus.

Becky Lynch, Nikki Bella, Naomi, Alexa Bliss, and Natalya vs. Charlotte, Sasha, Bayley, Dana Brooke, and Nia Jax.

[Emperor Smeat]

• I'm a bit surprised that Kenny & Mikey are still appearing and that they actually had a match. If they are back for the long haul, then I feel that maybe they should drop The Spirit Squad name and gimmick.
Wouldn't be surprised if their likely one-time appearance got quietly pushed into a full time deal since Smackdown could use another tag team to beef up the division.

Need to keep the gimmick though since they are at the right level of being obnoxious and annoying as a heel team.

[Evil Vito]

At minimum they're gonna be around for at least one more week I'd think. That segment sure made it look like a Ziggler/Slater/Rhyno vs. Miz/Kenny/Mikey match was in the offing.

[Emperor Smeat]

Smackdown ended up getting a small but good post-ppv bump this week compared to last week. Not enough to come close or beat RAW though.

In the SmackDown version of a post-PPV bump, ratings were up six percent for Tuesday night's show following Sunday's No Mercy PPV.

The show averaged 2.448 million viewers, up from 2.316 million the previous week.

[Rammsteinmad]

Man, I do not give a shit about this James Ellsworth guy.

Isn't that the whole point of why we're supposed to be behind the guy?

[screech]

Maybe, but that doesn't make me root for him. Someone in another thread said WWE is bringing back (or trying to bring back) jobber roles. I have no problem with that, but this feels really forced.

[screech]

Good on him for getting more TV time, though. People like him and he's getting a [probably] decent check. I'm just not into him like a lot of fans are.

[Rammsteinmad]

Totally fair enough.

I'm enjoying it. Not a "fan" of his as such. But the idea of this jobber (with no chin) becoming known simply because he's a jobber is hilarious.

Don't worry, it'll wear off soon, I'm sure.

[The CyNick]

Miz, Ziggler, Corbin, Kane, and Apollo Cruise vs. Sami Zayn, Neville, Chris Jericho, Braun Strowman, and Titus O'Neil.
.

Not exactly "best on best"

My guess is Styles, Ambrose, Miz, Ziggler and a mystery man (Samoa Joe) vs Owens, Jericho, Rollins, Reigns and Rusev

That leaves Golberg vs Lesnar on RAW, Wyatt vs Orton for SDL, a CW title match and some other filler like Curt Hawkins to round out the show.

[Lock Jaw]

I figure that the "best" will actually be saved for their own stories, while the teams just end up a hodgepodge of mid-card people.....

Styles vs. Ambrose
Owens vs. Reigns
Rollins vs. Rusev

Probably gonna happen

But also, probably I am way off