WWE RAW - 10.17.16 - GOOOOOLDBERG has CENA NUFF of Paul Heyman!

[ClockShot]

HYPE THE GAME!

Sorry, can't help myself.

[Triple A]

Hope Goldberg spears Michael Cole then goes on a profanity-laced rant against the crowd

[Droford]

Goldberg Jr will have a streak run to break his fathers streak

[Triple A]

This whole angle seems like (is) an "ad" for WWE 2k

[KIRA]

I hate,hate,HATE that WHAT chant

good lord all WWE faces do cut the hero to the kids promo

[KIRA]

This whole angle seems like (is) an "ad" for WWE 2k

and it is.

Too bad that game is so fucking broken

[slik]

if Goldberg wrestles Taker I wonder if the crowd will boo him or Taker or neither...

[Droford]

This whole angle seems like (is) an "ad" for WWE 2k

I can't wait for the glitches

[slik]

fat little stooge lol

[Droford]

Simon..Dean?

[Dark One]

Based on some of this thread, I'm not sure if they brought back Goldberg or the fucking KISS Demon.

Jesus, you guys.

[ClockShot]

Extra overrun for Raw?

Falling Water episode 1 "Don't Tell Bill" should be on.

[Droford]

Goldberg's gonna die..

[RP]

Goldberg kinda looks like Superstar Billy Graham now.

[ClockShot]

Miller Time in Toronto.

[slik]

Goldberg way better on the mic than I remember tbh

[Savio]

Goldberg should have speared the kid

[slik]

Dark One very hostile today

[KIRA]

This might be the most Goldberg ever talked in the ring

theres that Shitty WWE theme....its great as a closing theme for Goldberg tho honestly

[slik]

Fire some bitches 2morrow and it will all be ok!

[Exyle]

Man, that was awesome. Didn't realize how big a Goldberg mark I was. That "You're last" line was bad ass.

[Dark One]

Goldberg way better on the mic than I remember tbh

Probably been working on that promo in the bathroom mirror for like three years.

[Emperor Smeat]

Going to be really dumb if Goldberg has another match after Lesnar since the "Your Last" line was a pretty good way to end the promo.

[Savio]

I liked the ending line he gave but I was thinking maybe he should have reversed the "Your next, Your last" lines..... I dunno.

[Dark One]

Dark One very hostile today

A dude that was pretty much as over as Stone Cold and The Rock in the 90s came back to wrestling after 12 years and people are talking about how stupid it is.

It's making my brain hurt.

[Clerk]

This is biblical.

[Droford]

Going to be really dumb if Goldberg has another match after Lesnar since the "Your Last" line was a pretty good way to end the promo.

Lesnars gonna murder him

[slik]

now woman on usa network show giving birth

[James Steele]

I honestly think they should push this to the Royal Rumble to help sell out the AlamoDome. I knew he'd get a hell of a pop, but he's fucking OVERRRRR!!

[KIRA]

I can't see Goldberg being willing/able to take many/any of those suplexes

[slik]

FALLING WATER...wonder if it is good...randomly watched THE STRAIN yesterday and it was pretty good

[Droford]

A dude that was pretty much as over as Stone Cold and The Rock in the 90s came back to wrestling after 12 years and people are talking about how stupid it is.

It's making my brain hurt.

Larry Dallas on Busted Open made the point that Goldberg didn't debut til way after Nitro had beaten RAW in the aratings and by the time he was champion RAW was back to winning regularly

[Clerk]

Wtf I thought chrisley knows best was on after raw . This is bullshit

[KIRA]

A dude that was pretty much as over as Stone Cold and The Rock in the 90s came back to wrestling after 12 years and people are talking about how stupid it is.

It's making my brain hurt.

I said something positive at the end

[slik]

A dude that was pretty much as over as Stone Cold and The Rock in the 90s came back to wrestling after 12 years and people are talking about how stupid it is.

It's making my brain hurt.

Brock wrestling anyone who is past their prime generally makes me nervous b/c I like Brock matches where he is 'hard-hitting' and he has to tone down with older talent.

No one is mad at Goldberg personally, they just can't forget their WMXX match.

[James Steele]

It's amazing that 12 years after they shit the bed, this match is still as full of hype and energy as it was in 2004. People forget how hyped that match was at WMXX hence why it was such a letdown. Surely they will want to "make things right" from that match.

[James Steele]

Larry Dallas on Busted Open made the point that Goldberg didn't debut til way after Nitro had beaten RAW in the aratings and by the time he was champion RAW was back to winning regularly

He was all WCW had once they ruined Sting at Starrcade 97 and refused to give DDP the world title push until Spring Stampede 99. That's why they hot shot the belt on him in the summer.

[slik]

Goldberg is better on the mic than Roman Reigns

[Droford]

Wtf I thought chrisley knows best was on after raw . This is bullshit

It's on after SD. I assume cause USA assumes AJ Styles fans are rednecks who would watch it

[slik]

segment w/ Goldberg was really good though

[Clerk]

Oh ok. Chrisley and his family are very motivational people. Especially chrisley

[Dark One]

It's on after SD. I assume cause USA assumes AJ Styles fans are rednecks who would watch it

Something something THE GAY COMMUNITY!?

[Mr. Nerfect]

People jizzing over the same matches every week but being down on an actual star coming back are making my head ache. Gonna track down that Goldberg promo. :y:

[Evil Vito]

Goldberg was the first wrestler I was ever a mark for, so I'm excited as fuck to see him back. He's clearly going to job to Brock and it probably won't even be close, but I don't care.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I think he'll look good for a second. Maybe it'll be like a Goldberg squash, with Brock finding a powder, regaining himself and then killing Goldie?

[James Steele]

I don't see this being a squash. I just hope they don't give it too much time. Epic entrances, epic stare down, crazy brawl, Kickout of finishers, crazy counter into the F5...BROCK WINS. 15-20 minutes tops. With Goldberg wanting to have his son see him wrestle and stuff and how much of a pain in the ass he's been in the past, no way he comes back just lets Brock roll over him.

[James Steele]

Goldberg probably put in a "no wigs" clause though.

[James Steele]

The $1,000,000 Question is who is finally going to be the one to beat Lesnar clean and will they get the "megastar" they need out of that win to justify all the money and wins they've given Brock Lesnar. Is it at WM 33 or another year or 2 down the line? How much longer can they milk Brock destroying people as a major draw?

[Crimson]

Lol if Goldberg wins clean

[Dark One]

http://capricorncity.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/Goldberg-Wig.jpg

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Good lord. Can they get a writer who can do a face promo? Sparklecrotch?

...

[Ruien]

The $1,000,000 Question is who is finally going to be the one to beat Lesnar clean and will they get the "megastar" they need out of that win to justify all the money and wins they've given Brock Lesnar. Is it at WM 33 or another year or 2 down the line? How much longer can they milk Brock destroying people as a major draw?

Rollins.

[Black Widow]

Should have done the Spear and Jackhammer to somebody other than that cool.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

This is not CWC...u get five minutes to shine or DIE on RAW...cruiserweights all dying r/n

Fit in well on Raw then.

[Evil Vito]

The $1,000,000 Question is who is finally going to be the one to beat Lesnar clean and will they get the "megastar" they need out of that win to justify all the money and wins they've given Brock Lesnar. Is it at WM 33 or another year or 2 down the line? How much longer can they milk Brock destroying people as a major draw?

Roman Reigns.

[Ruien]

Roman Reigns.

You misspelled Seth Rollins.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

BRAUUUUUNNNNNNNN

[Big Vic]

Brock/Goldberg should be a 3 minute squash where Goldberg goes over.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

His fat little son can finish off Brock like he did Goldberg last night, with naiomis finisher to the face.

[Evil Vito]

You misspelled Seth Rollins.

Except for the fact that it's clearly going to be Roman Reigns.

[Big Vic]

His fat little son can finish off Brock like he did Goldberg last night, with naiomis finisher to the face.
Hmmm people are being quite vicious to an 8 year old.

[Jordan]

God it's nice to have a wrestler on Raw. What a great wrestling promo.

[Simple Fan]

Raw just feels thrown together without any thought any more. I'm over the crusierweights, silly to change the ring like that every time. And having them be the last match of Raw is dumb. They tried to copy the CWC and its just not working. I don't think they should have held Goldburg til last either. Goldburg vsLesnar should be good though, no way they stink it up twice. Could care less about the women's Hell in the Cell. I just feel its to much to fast. They have never even had a cage match but that's what you get when the PPV is named after a gimmick match.

[Big Vic]

I think there has been a women's cage match before.....with Lita and Trish? Maybe I'm wrong.

[Big Vic]

Scratch that, it was victoria and lita:

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[Simple Fan]

None of these woman have ever been in a cage match though. 13 years ago they had a women's cage match, why did they stop? I'm all for the women doing as much as the men but start them off with regular gimmick matches before you put them in a Hell in a Cell match. I'm sure they will have a good match but it just feels to forced in my opinion. As I said though when you have PPVs named after gimmick matches it kind of forces them to put them in a Cell.

[Destor]

None of these woman have ever been in a cage match though. 13 years ago they had a women's cage match, why did they stop? I'm all for the women doing as much as the men but start them off with regular gimmick matches before you put them in a Hell in a Cell match. I'm sure they will have a good match but it just feels to forced in my opinion. As I said though when you have PPVs named after gimmick matches it kind of forces them to put them in a Cell.
Because for a dacade they hired and taught models to wrestle instead of hiring wrestlers.

[Big Vic]

By the end of the year I expect them to be in an inferno match.

[Simple Fan]

Maybe once Sister Abigail shows up.

[The CyNick]

Goldberg presentation was excellent, only a geek would say it wasn't. I liked that he played up being a superhero to the kids. Will be interesting to see if WWE tries to keep him around as a special attraction for a couple Manias. I know he said this was his last deal, but that can easily be changed. Too bad the fans in Toronto will likely crap on him just cuz they think that are cooler than the room. Would be better if those fans weren't always trying to be the show. But we'll enjoy their money anyway.

Didn't see anything else this week, but I'm sure it was good.

[Anybody Thrilla]

Goldberg wasn't as horrible as I expected, but I guess that's the benefit of no expectations.

The most bizarre thing to me though is Goldberg saying he wants to be a hero to the kids. Any kid under twelve definitely had no idea who that dude was. His own son hasn't even seen him wrestle. Seemed awkward how he kept picking up and hugging those very same kids out of the crowd, but I guess that's all minor. That wasn't a kid joke, btw. But it could have been. But I assure you, it wasn't.

[Big Vic]

Goldberg presentation was excellent, only a geek would say it wasn't. I liked that he played up being a superhero to the kids. Will be interesting to see if WWE tries to keep him around as a special attraction for a couple Manias. I know he said this was his last deal, but that can easily be changed. Too bad the fans in Toronto will likely crap on him just cuz they think that are cooler than the room. Would be better if those fans weren't always trying to be the show. But we'll enjoy their money anyway.

Didn't see anything else this week, but I'm sure it was good.So vince pays you to spread good news about his show?

[Cool King]

• Raw opens with a promo yet again but what else is new. The whole "Sparkle Crotch" thing just reminded me of Cena's "JBL is Poopy" thing. Both come across as being really immature and even though "Sparkle Crotch" was used to make fun of Jericho and make him look stupid, I just felt that Rollins came across as being the one who was stupid.

Their match though was good.

• It's weird that during the Raw intro, I saw Mark Henry and I thought to myself "Why is Mark Henry in the intro? He's only had one match since the split and that was around three months ago", then lo and behold Mark Henry has a match on Raw.

So we have The Golden Truth & Mark Henry vs The Shining Stars & Titus O'Neil, and this six-man tag match is happening because of some watches. So in the space of a month, The Shining Stars have went from defeating the highly popular Enzo & Cass who were on a roll, to losing to The Golden Truth & Mark Henry in a match over watches, because that makes sense.

When they defeated Enzo & Cass I was hoping that it would lead to something, but classic WWE writing/booking strikes again.

• New Day making constant drug references because "drug references are funny and cool". Even Cesaro wasn't up for those references on his Facebook video thing.

"Oh, 420. You made a drug reference. Very smart."

• Even though Curtis Axel got his ass handed to him by Bo, I was happy with it as it hopefully means we'll get more Axel in the future. I hope we do and we can see how Axel will be as a face. I just hope that it leads to something and it's not just forgotten about next week and Axel vanishes, then he just randomly appears on Superstars in December acting like nothing ever happened.

However, this is the WWE and to them, defeating a hot tag team and then a month later having a match with three guys in their mid-40's from The Attitude Era, in a match over watches makes perfect sense. So who knows what'll happen with Axel.

• I now dread Bayley matches as that's when I reach the point where I find Byron Saxton annoying. I just can't listen to him during her matches as he spouts out the same stuff every time with his annoying fake happy voice.

I was actually surprised that Dana Brooke got a clean win over Bayley, but I think that maybe it wasn't supposed to be a clean win and that her foot was supposed to be on the rope but she couldn't reach it.

If there is a way to work around it, I think maybe they could go with saying that Bayley's left foot was under the ropes and the referee was in a bad position to see it, as it actually did look like her leg/foot was under the bottom rope from the angle we saw on TV.

• The Strowman squash match was actually quite enjoyable. I don't get why Sami Zayn was chosen to be the main roster guy to go against Strowman. This could end up potentially ruining Strowman's character is he loses to Zayn. It's a big gamble.

Why would anyone fear/take seriously the 385 lb Strowman after losing to Zayn? The 212 lb man who calls himself an underdog. I can't help but think if Strowman does lose to Zayn, then my joke about him will most likely come true.

Yeah, this time next year I expect to see Strowman tagging and dancing with Rich Swann.

If it was Mark Henry instead of Zayn, then maybe it wouldn't have been so bad.

• Rusev's family photos were actually quite entertaining. I would say that Rusev is my favourite thing about Raw at the moment. The guy is just gold on the mic and great in the ring.

• On the opposite side of that is TJ Perkins. We have yet more video game references being shoehorned in whenever Perkins is on screen.

I find him to be a bit on the bland side with his promos. He reminds me of those terrible actors you see in those "so bad it's good" type movies you get on Syfy or whatever, where the lead male character's acting is just really bad and bland and his facial appearance is highly generic.

I really hope Kendrick wins at Hell in a Cell.

• Goldberg's return actually made me feel slightly nostalgic. It was good. I was never a big Goldberg fan back in the day, in fact, I hated him for a time but it was actually good to see him on Raw.

The guy hasn't wrestled in 12 years though, so I don't know how he'll be in the ring when the time comes, but he has at least a month to get rid of his ring rust (if he hasn't already been doing it since May) if the match will be happening at Survivor Series.

I think the match would be better suited for WrestleMania though, but from a "HYPE THE GAME" standpoint, Survivor Series makes more sense as 2K17 has just be released and I doubt anyone will care about the game and its glitches by December, so his match with Lesnar happening as soon as possible would be understandable.

• Raw always feels like a complete mishmash and this week was no different. There were some good points about Raw this week though, such as Curtis Axel's possible going on a face run, Rusev and everything he does and the return of Goldberg.

But for some reason, Raw can't seem to have consistently good shows, whereas SmackDown appears to be managing it with ease.

[Cool King]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cu_ybK8UAAAI-O2.jpg

I loved that sign.

It's probably the best sign I've seen in a long time.

[Lock Jaw]

Goldberg better than I expected..... did seem to be profusely sweating and out of breath, but he's got awhile longer to "train" I guess...... real curious to see how it goes.....

Also it is obviously "working" for them......

Dude on my Facebook who hates everything and posts tons of anti-whatever memes, posted a link to a CBS Sports article about Golberg's return and wrote "Not gonna lie this gets me fired up for wrestling again. Finally something worth watching lol"

[The CyNick]

So vince pays you to spread good news about his show?

No I just give my opinion. They have given me enough.

[Lock Jaw]

• The Strowman squash match was actually quite enjoyable. I don't get why Sami Zayn was chosen to be the main roster guy to go against Strowman. This could end up potentially ruining Strowman's character is he loses to Zayn. It's a big gamble.

Why would anyone fear/take seriously the 385 lb Strowman after losing to Zayn? The 212 lb man who calls himself an underdog. I can't help but think if Strowman does lose to Zayn, then my joke about him will most likely come true.

"Ha ha" at you actually thinking Zayn might win

Which is too bad. Zayn deserves better than this.

[Cool King]

Anything can happen in the World Wrestling Federation!

[The CyNick]

• Raw opens with a promo yet again but what else is new. The whole "Sparkle Crotch" thing just reminded me of Cena's "JBL is Poopy" thing. Both come across as being really immature and even though "Sparkle Crotch" was used to make fun of Jericho and make him look stupid, I just felt that Rollins came across as being the one who was stupid.

Their match though was good.

• It's weird that during the Raw intro, I saw Mark Henry and I thought to myself "Why is Mark Henry in the intro? He's only had one match since the split and that was around three months ago", then lo and behold Mark Henry has a match on Raw.

So we have The Golden Truth & Mark Henry vs The Shining Stars & Titus O'Neil, and this six-man tag match is happening because of some watches. So in the space of a month, The Shining Stars have went from defeating the highly popular Enzo & Cass who were on a roll, to losing to The Golden Truth & Mark Henry in a match over watches, because that makes sense.

When they defeated Enzo & Cass I was hoping that it would lead to something, but classic WWE writing/booking strikes again.

• New Day making constant drug references because "drug references are funny and cool". Even Cesaro wasn't up for those references on his Facebook video thing.

"Oh, 420. You made a drug reference. Very smart."

• Even though Curtis Axel got his ass handed to him by Bo, I was happy with it as it hopefully means we'll get more Axel in the future. I hope we do and we can see how Axel will be as a face. I just hope that it leads to something and it's not just forgotten about next week and Axel vanishes, then he just randomly appears on Superstars in December acting like nothing ever happened.

However, this is the WWE and to them, defeating a hot tag team and then a month later having a match with three guys in their mid-40's from The Attitude Era, in a match over watches makes perfect sense. So who knows what'll happen with Axel.

• I now dread Bayley matches as that's when I reach the point where I find Byron Saxton annoying. I just can't listen to him during her matches as he spouts out the same stuff every time with his annoying fake happy voice.

I was actually surprised that Dana Brooke got a clean win over Bayley, but I think that maybe it wasn't supposed to be a clean win and that her foot was supposed to be on the rope but she couldn't reach it.

If there is a way to work around it, I think maybe they could go with saying that Bayley's left foot was under the ropes and the referee was in a bad position to see it, as it actually did look like her leg/foot was under the bottom rope from the angle we saw on TV.

• The Strowman squash match was actually quite enjoyable. I don't get why Sami Zayn was chosen to be the main roster guy to go against Strowman. This could end up potentially ruining Strowman's character is he loses to Zayn. It's a big gamble.

Why would anyone fear/take seriously the 385 lb Strowman after losing to Zayn? The 212 lb man who calls himself an underdog. I can't help but think if Strowman does lose to Zayn, then my joke about him will most likely come true.



If it was Mark Henry instead of Zayn, then maybe it wouldn't have been so bad.

• Rusev's family photos were actually quite entertaining. I would say that Rusev is my favourite thing about Raw at the moment. The guy is just gold on the mic and great in the ring.

• On the opposite side of that is TJ Perkins. We have yet more video game references being shoehorned in whenever Perkins is on screen.

I find him to be a bit on the bland side with his promos. He reminds me of those terrible actors you see in those "so bad it's good" type movies you get on Syfy or whatever, where the lead male character's acting is just really bad and bland and his facial appearance is highly generic.

I really hope Kendrick wins at Hell in a Cell.

• Goldberg's return actually made me feel slightly nostalgic. It was good. I was never a big Goldberg fan back in the day, in fact, I hated him for a time but it was actually good to see him on Raw.

The guy hasn't wrestled in 12 years though, so I don't know how he'll be in the ring when the time comes, but he has at least a month to get rid of his ring rust (if he hasn't already been doing it since May) if the match will be happening at Survivor Series.

I think the match would be better suited for WrestleMania though, but from a "HYPE THE GAME" standpoint, Survivor Series makes more sense as 2K17 has just be released and I doubt anyone will care about the game and its glitches by December, so his match with Lesnar happening as soon as possible would be understandable.

• Raw always feels like a complete mishmash and this week was no different. There were some good points about Raw this week though, such as Curtis Axel's possible going on a face run, Rusev and everything he does and the return of Goldberg.

But for some reason, Raw can't seem to have consistently good shows, whereas SmackDown appears to be managing it with ease.

I'm thinking Bo is the one being pushed, not Axel. That said, at least Axel is getting some TV time. Let's see what he does with it.

[Lock Jaw]

Remember that time that Neville looked like he was gonna beat John Cena for the US Title until Rusev interfered and cost him the match....... and then Neville basically just said "whatever" and never challenged for a title again?

[Cool King]

I'm thinking Bo is the one being pushed, not Axel. That said, at least Axel is getting some TV time. Let's see what he does with it.

Oh, I know he's being pushed.

I just prefer to talk about Axel.

[Anybody Thrilla]

I'm thinking Bo is the one being pushed, not Axel. That said, at least Axel is getting some TV time. Let's see what he does with it.

Yeah, I thought that was all just a device to show that Bo has actually gone off the deep end and to simultaneously end all Social Outcasts ties.

[Anybody Thrilla]

Bo has been looking good. I'm interested in his Raw segments for the first time in forever.

I did kinda like Axel not being overly-douchey, too. Maybe he'll make a decent babyface.

[The CyNick]

Oh, I know he's being pushed.

I just prefer to talk about Axel.

He's not perfect

[The CyNick]

Bo has been looking good. I'm interested in his Raw segments for the first time in forever.

I did kinda like Axel not being overly-douchey, too. Maybe he'll make a decent babyface.

I feel like Bo's act is curtain jerker material, but maybe it will evolve with this more serious side. Just not sure where he fits in on RAW.

[The CyNick]

Seems like they hit a homerun in terms of drawing in viewers with the Goldberg hype. Higher ratings for RAW than the baseball game. Very impressive.

Also, NFL must be terrible at booking now.

[Innovator]

Wow they actually recovered viewers in the 3rd hour

[Cool King]

He's not perfect

He's

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5473/11672234794_dc19863361.jpg

[Emperor Smeat]

Seems like they hit a homerun in terms of drawing in viewers with the Goldberg hype. Higher ratings for RAW than the baseball game. Very impressive.

Also, NFL must be terrible at booking now.
Only tied but didn't beat the baseball game from last night and only because WWE likes to split their hours. If they didn't, would have been lower than the ALCS game. Also helped Canada doesn't count for the ratings so MLB got nothing from Toronto's side of the market.


Wow they actually recovered viewers in the 3rd hour
Even though it was very small still a really big surprise considering how rare that is for RAW these days.

[Anybody Thrilla]

I feel like Bo's act is curtain jerker material, but maybe it will evolve with this more serious side. Just not sure where he fits in on RAW.

The card placement doesn't really bother me. I'm entertained by it.

As far as where he fits, I don't think that anything appears to really fit anywhere on Raw.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Raw should be called out for making Rich Swanns entrance short.

[Anybody Thrilla]

Seems difficult to shoehorn all of those cruiserweights in in front of an audience where they are largely unknown and make more than a couple of them seem important.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Yeah, Raw is botching them as expected and while I like that they tried to give them their own identity, they need to stop with the ring stuff. There's just such a gap between one match, then 20 minutes or so of commercials and backstage stuff so they can get the ring sorted.

Without the ring stuff, they can give them two segments to build on anyway. Like bin the Golden Truth segment or something.

Still, at least they're on NXT as well. Still not sure what to make of the lyric "And if your daddy's gone, but your mommas home we can bring it we ain't got no shame" is supposed to imply in Swanns music though.

[Anybody Thrilla]

...is he saying that he will bang older chicks too? Or just your mother specifically? Either way, maybe cut that out.

[Anybody Thrilla]

Remember that time that Neville looked like he was gonna beat John Cena for the US Title until Rusev interfered and cost him the match....... and then Neville basically just said "whatever" and never challenged for a title again?

That was in Cincinnati. I was there. You wanna know the REAL crime here, though?

Cena's opponent literally the week before in the US Open Challenge was Dean Ambrose. That's right. Dean Ambrose FROM CINCINNATI, OHIO.

You know what Ambrose did that night? He had a handicap match against J & J security.

Why they didn't just flip Ambrose and Neville in those two weeks just boggles my mind. Seems like such a fucking layup. The crowd would have been shit hot for that match. And that Neville match was dope. Would have crushed the previous week for sure.

[The CyNick]

Seems difficult to shoehorn all of those cruiserweights in in front of an audience where they are largely unknown and make more than a couple of them seem important.

I would consider trying the cruisers from say 8 to 845. Treat it as its own show. That way they can change the rope colors once and be done with it.

[Big Vic]

What about big opening segments?

[The CyNick]

What about big opening segments?

Save those for 845-9. Almost treat it like how they used to do RAW and the War Zone back in the day. Give the CW hour their own opening, then do another open for the real stars at 845-9. I think kids would probably enjoy the cruisers and you can make those segments be 100% kid friendly. Then transition to a PG as little kids go to bed.

[Mr. Nerfect]

RAW rating pretty good. Interesting what happens when you've got genuine stars on your show.

[Ruien]

By the end of the year I expect them to be in an inferno match.

So Sasha will need to wrestle some clothes to the ring?

[Mr. Nerfect]

Are the girls officially having a Hell in a Cell match?

[Lock Jaw]

Yes. Yes, they are.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I think that's the best feud for one, to be honest. Sasha and Charlotte have been warring for years now.

[Big Vic]

Save those for 845-9. Almost treat it like how they used to do RAW and the War Zone back in the day. Give the CW hour their own opening, then do another open for the real stars at 845-9. I think kids would probably enjoy the cruisers and you can make those segments be 100% kid friendly. Then transition to a PG as little kids go to bed.


No one starts to tune in at 8:45