Smackdown Live 10/18 feat. Match of the Century - The Face That Runs the Place vs the Chinless One

[Emperor Smeat]

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AJ Styles battles James Ellsworth for the WWE World Title tonight

SmackDown LIVE once again sets itself apart from Monday Night Raw, as James Allsworth gets an opportunity against AJ Styles for WWE’s most illustrious prize.

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">It's <a href="https://twitter.com/AJStylesOrg">@AJStylesOrg</a> vs <a href="https://twitter.com/realellsworth">@realellsworth</a> for the WWE Title because clearly we've lost our minds <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ReasonsToWatchSmackDown?src=hash">#ReasonsToWatchSmackDown</a></p>&mdash; WWE Creative Humor (@WWECreative_ish) <a href="https://twitter.com/WWECreative_ish/status/788446329441751040">October 18, 2016</a></blockquote>
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[Anybody Thrilla]

I hope Styles completely murks Ellsworth. Vicious stuff, I'm hoping.

[Clerk]

Posting Smackdown threads is sliksuke job

[slik]

Let's go Ellsworth, Let's go!

[Anybody Thrilla]

If this match main events, it feels weird since James Ellsworth is in the main event. If it doesn't main event, it feels weird because the WWE World Championship isn't in the main event.

[KIRA]

C'MON SD LIVE! not even Goldberg can stop The A SHOW! (damn good try though)

[ClockShot]

A-SHOW TIME!

I hope Styles destroys Ellsworth tonight, get the show back on the right track after last week's nonsense.

[Droford]

The face that runs the place vs the chin that doesn't begin

[ClockShot]

Ok Ellsworth. Remember last week's lesson. Styles Clash. Bend the head back, not tuck the head in.

[KIRA]

Start off with Bray/Orton

oooo

[KIRA]

Ok Ellsworth. Remember last week's lesson. Styles Clash. Bend the head back, not tuck the head in.

Granted tucking your head becomes second in wrestling I'd imagine.

[KIRA]

Thats right Otunga except all those times Orton 1-upped Wyatt

[ClockShot]

CASKET MATCH!

Or not.

[Droford]

The underbrayker

[KIRA]

He's stealing Takers shit

[ClockShot]

YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH!

HARPER!

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[slik]

Bray just hanging out in a casket like he ate too much taco bell

[KIRA]

Hobo Dan! I mean Luke Harper

[KIRA]

how can you see the light in the darkness? Gonna let that slide

[ClockShot]

Sweet.

[Emperor Smeat]

This stuff would have been a lot better for the Taker/Kane soul stealing feud Bray had.

[KIRA]

So after jobbing him endlessly they decide Bray should be the next UT

I like the sheep druids

[ClockShot]

how can you see the light in the darkness? Gonna let that slide

"Seeing is better with eyes closed"

[Mercenary]

Harpers bald spt has grown

[Mercenary]

that wig so bad

[KIRA]

Thats gotta BE KANE

[Droford]

Tag team casket match

[Emperor Smeat]

Would have been hilarious if Kane just randomly disappeared again after the Wyatt DERP thing.

[KIRA]

that wig so bad

MULTIIMILLION DOLLAR COMPANY

[ClockShot]

OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

[KIRA]

You for got chinless I mean his face just kinda ends up in his neck

[ClockShot]

Hello, Freddy.

[KIRA]

What is bliss wearing not sure how to feel

[Mercenary]

It's rave time! *dances*

[ClockShot]

What is bliss wearing not sure how to feel

Dressed as Freddy Kruger from Nightmare on Elm Street.

I guess she doesn't know how to count since Halloween is a couple weeks away.

[Mercenary]

NightMare on Bliss Street!

[slik]

Alexa Bliss dressed as Freddy Kreuger <3 <3 <3

[KIRA]

Dressed as Freddy Kruger from Nightmare on Elm Street.

I guess she doesn't know how to count since Halloween is a couple weeks away.

Nothing wrong with an early start


:heart: Halloween

[ClockShot]

She's also dressed in red & green.

Maybe she thinks its Christmas.

[KIRA]

can can Kicks

pretty cool

[Emperor Smeat]

Freddy Bliss tonight.

[KIRA]

You know with a Freddy glove now would be the perfect time for Bliss to bring back Santino's cobra finisher

[Triple A]

I'm home + watching SmackDown

Glad I only seem to have missed a 30 min Randy Orton / Wyatts segment...

[KIRA]

SERIOUSLY Naomi would be awesome if she wasn't so sloppy

[Emperor Smeat]

:y: Bliss wins

[KIRA]

I'm home + watching SmackDown

Glad I only seem to have missed a 30 min Randy Orton / Wyatts segment...

Well then you missed the inauguration of the new Undertaker

[Emperor Smeat]

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[ClockShot]

Wild Renee Young appears.

[Mercenary]

Bliss promos > Bayleys

[KIRA]

If the wicked witch is dead that isn't that a happy ending?

[ClockShot]

Spirit Squad back again.

[Droford]

Curt Hawkins finally

[ClockShot]

CURT HAWKINS! NEXT!

[ClockShot]

Smiley's smiling again.

[Emperor Smeat]

:eek: Curt Hawkins actually debuting.

:lol: copying Eva's personal entrance announcer.

[KIRA]

Then he jobs to Crews

Hawkins just pulled an HBK/DX (at a house show as a kid somebody nailed him with a drink and he told us that cost us the match and stormed out)

[ClockShot]

No no no no no no! Don't go!

[Droford]

:eek: Curt Hawkins actually debuting.

:lol: copying Eva's personal entrance announcer.

And her non wrestling gimmick

[Emperor Smeat]

Greatest debut since the time Jericho came back and trolled everyone for weeks with fake re-debuts. All downhill for Hawkins after this though.

[Heisenberg]

jobber dude has a shirt??

[Triple A]

damn... seems bad that they are using this "gimmick" twice...

ruining it for Eva Marie... miss her

[ClockShot]

Holy hell. Who locked Carmella in the tanning bed?

[KIRA]

way too heavy on the spray tan

[KIRA]

OR DONATE DIRECTLY TO RESEARCH!

[ClockShot]

The truth about Nikki Bella is about to be exposed.

WHAT COULD IT BE?!

[slik]

jobber dude has a shirt??

ELLSWORTH is the GOAT of GOATs

[KIRA]

jobber dude has a shirt??

He does and I want it

[Droford]

Why are two broke girls in WWE

[KIRA]

que for Alex Riley....no damnit!

[Emperor Smeat]

This might be the longest Nikki has resisted the urge to randomly turn heel/face since the Bellas started to pull a Big Show.

[ClockShot]

Only proves Carmella is an avid watcher of Total Divas.

[KIRA]

Carmella looks like she got backhanded by the sun.

[KIRA]

This does make Nikki seem a whiny heel

[Emperor Smeat]

Did Nikki just make fun of Cena?

[ClockShot]

Okay. Wrap this up.

[KIRA]

Nikki basically just called Cena sackless

[Emperor Smeat]

Carmella is not wrong about what she said to Nikki about her accomplishments.

[slik]

Carmella wasn't wrong tbh...

[ClockShot]

"Somehow I survived"

:lol:

[KIRA]

HE LOOKS LIKE A MUPPET
HE IS THE GREATEST

#TEAMELLSWORTH

[ClockShot]

Del Rio sighting.

I guess they missed one to edit.

[Ruien]

Spirit Squad time! They should enroll some new young people to be the new Spirit Squad with the 2 current guys as the coaches.

[Droford]

HBK vs AJ Styles at the Rumble..that would probably help sell 65000 tickets

[slik]

miz time!

[Droford]

Miz is back to wearing stupid clothes

[ClockShot]

Why can't Maryse be like Lana and just wear normal clothes?

[DAMN iNATOR]

Ellsworth for next WWE Champion, baby! #NEWERA

[Droford]

Lol

[Triple A]

2 freaking worst themes... Miz and Ziggler...

[KIRA]

2 freaking worst themes... Miz and Ziggler...

Cesaro's theme is pretty terrible

even he hates it.

[Triple A]

Yea it is...

[KIRA]

SD live is constantly accomplishing in 2 hrs what RAW barely ever manages with 3

a solid show worth watching

[Emperor Smeat]

So are Slater and Rhyno never getting a rematch for the tag titles?

Figured Rhyno would have left for some election stuff once they dropped the titles and not go right into a new feud.

[KIRA]

goddamn Kenny is shredded

[DAMN iNATOR]

Forget about Trump or Hillary or Bo-living in Bo Dallas, it's all about #Ellsworth4Pres16!

[slik]

congrats to Kenny

[KIRA]

If Nattie adopts a Whitney Huston gimmick count me as sold

[ClockShot]

Natalya, Bliss, Lynch, Nikki, Naomi.

Looks like a solid team. Although a fresh face to serve as a ringer like Asuka would be mint.

Eva Marie's suspension should be up already. But I don't think she's coming back.

[Lock Jaw]

Hey

I have been watching the show

Alexa Bliss looks better not being Harley Quinn and not being so caked in makeup

Nikki Bella/Carmella weird angle, but Nikki seems like she has improved a bit on the mic, maybe because she has finally decided that she is a face......

[Lock Jaw]

So are Slater and Rhyno never getting a rematch for the tag titles?

Figured Rhyno would have left for some election stuff once they dropped the titles and not go right into a new feud.

Wait, when did they lose the titles......

[Clerk]

GORE! GORE! GORE!

[KIRA]

Natalya, Bliss, Lynch, Nikki, Naomi.

Looks like a solid team. Although a fresh face to serve as a ringer like Asuka would be mint.

Eva Marie's suspension should be up already. But I don't think she's coming back.

You can't just unleash Asuka on an unsuspecting women's division they need warning I'd like at least some of them to have a chance at survival

[ClockShot]

GO BRONCOS!

[Emperor Smeat]

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[Droford]

Never been a more appropriate time for

Weed the People

[Triple A]

Wait, when did they lose the titles......

They are still the champions according to Wikipedia and wwe.com...

[Emperor Smeat]

Wait, when did they lose the titles......

For some really odd reason I keep thinking Slater and Rhyno lost the titles at No Mercy even when they keep wearing the belts.

[Droford]

Baton Corbin still has NXT shirt lol

[ClockShot]

You can't just unleash Asuka on an unsuspecting women's division they need warning I'd like at least some of them to have a chance at survival

Logic for my argument would be Smackdown an "emergency signing" to fill the hole left by Eva Marie.

Like when Raw called up Bayley to fill in for Sasha Banks.

[slik]

Baron Corbin lol

[ClockShot]

Welp, Swagger is serving his purpose here so far.

[KIRA]

Swaggers whole purpose in comming to SD is to put Corbin over

[Lock Jaw]

Corbin finally crushes Swagger

[Lock Jaw]

Call me crazy but I want to see a Corbin/Orton End of Days/RKO feud.......

[slik]

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[KIRA]

Logic for my argument would be Smackdown an "emergency signing" to fill the hole left by Eva Marie.

Like when Raw called up Bayley to fill in for Sasha Banks.

I like that but you're still dooming unsuspecting women to a world of suffering and shattered bones.

[Emperor Smeat]

Natty should go with a crazy cat lady for her gimmick. Start off slow with just showing pictures and then eventually go full Simpsons style with looking legit crazy and carrying cats where ever she goes.

[Droford]

It's almost time..woo

[DAMN iNATOR]

Ok...over/under....10 minutes before totally not-at-all inevitable ref bump? Place your wagers now!

[slik]

Main Event is NEXT!!!

[ClockShot]

STYLES, BOMAYE!

[KIRA]

Here WE GO!

[ClockShot]

Ambrose shenanigans are now a given.

Ugh.

[KIRA]

RIGHT? I wanted a clean match

[ClockShot]

WHERE'S THE PYRO?!

[KIRA]

YES!

[Emperor Smeat]

Pretty cool they gave Ellsworth his own entrance stuff.

[ClockShot]

Ellsworth the a newly created WWE2k17 entrance and theme!


HYPE THE GAME!

[KIRA]

ELLSWORTH CHANT!

[Lock Jaw]

James Ellsworth outpopped Goldberg

[Droford]

Ellsworth is the new Goldberg

[slik]

Ellsworth MANIA!

[KIRA]

That P1 banner is great

[Emperor Smeat]

:lol: Ambrose and them actually going to commercial.

[KIRA]

I BELIEVE IN ELLSWORTH!

[Triple A]

dean ambrose freaking annoying

[Lock Jaw]

Had to turn down volume on TV due to viscous bell ringing by Dean Ambrose.......

[slik]

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[Triple A]

Ambrose turning Ellsworth's title match opportunity into a joke... thinks he is so cool and "better" than Ellsworth... fuck u

[Clerk]

Jbl the best commentator

[Droford]

Had to turn down volume on TV due to viscous bell ringing by Dean Ambrose.......

Ellsworth should have stolen Festus gimmick and turned into a maniac

[KIRA]

god are those real can I ORDER ONE?

[ClockShot]

5XL, eh.

Never knew they made shirts that big.

[slik]

love this so far

[Clerk]

Anyone watching chrisley knows best after?

[slik]

triple a so hostile at ellsworth SMH

[Emperor Smeat]

JBL trying hard to not laugh and also be really upset is pretty funny.

[KIRA]

Ellsworth slipping out of the chinlock lol

[Droford]

JBL sounds legit pissed at Nougat

[KIRA]

JBL has been great on SD

[KIRA]

ha ha

[slik]

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[Droford]

Oh shit

[KIRA]

FUCKIN YES!

[Emperor Smeat]

This match has been great so far just because of how ridiculously funny its been.

[Innovator]

NO CHIN MUSIC

[Clerk]

James Ellsworth is biblical

[Droford]

No Chin Music

[Clerk]

No chin win

[Triple A]

good 1 @ no chin music

[Evil Vito]

This main event has played out like a CHIKARA match.

[KIRA]

AWW

[Lock Jaw]

Crowd going banana for Ellsworth

Crowds :heart: underdogs

[slik]

TALENT WON

[KIRA]

2X ELLSWORTH 2X MIRACLE MAN

[Droford]

Ellsworth should get a no dq match now

[Clerk]

Omg wwe always fucks the ending up

[Emperor Smeat]

:eek: Ellsworth beat the champ again.

Ellsworth-Styles should do what Cena-Rock could never do and pull off Thrice In A Lifetime match.

[Clerk]

Triple threat for title Ambrose styles and Ellsworth

[KIRA]

HALF MAN HALF AMAZING ELLSWORTH

[Clerk]

Jbl is great so funny lol

[KIRA]

Ellsworth more over than Goldberg

[Innovator]

Mojo just tried to concuss Bryan through hugs

[Clerk]

Guys don't forget chrisley knows best is on now

[Bad News Gertner]

So ridiculous. Styles looking like a joke again. No wonder why nobody watches this shit

[Innovator]

Renee just got Zack with a "are you seeing anyone?" line

[Emperor Smeat]

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[KIRA]

So ridiculous. Styles looking like a joke again. No wonder why nobody watches this shit

He was beating the shit outta Ellsworth dude

and he didn't get pinned

ELLSWORTH4EVER

[Vastardikai]

I swear, Ellsworth looks like a CAW, even more than Cody Rhodes did.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

So are Slater and Rhyno never getting a rematch for the tag titles?

Figured Rhyno would have left for some election stuff once they dropped the titles and not go right into a new feud.

They are the champions.

[Fignuts]

So ridiculous. Styles looking like a joke again. No wonder why nobody watches this shit

You take sports entertainment way too seriously bro.

[Big Vic]

He was beating the shit outta Ellsworth dude

and he didn't get pinned

ELLSWORTH4EVER
Kinda like when Jon Jones beat the mess out of Matt Hamil and they DQ'd him for the destruction.

[Vastardikai]

Kinda like when Jon Jones beat the mess out of Matt Hamil and they DQ'd him for the destruction.

It was illegal 12 to 6s and Mazzagati asked a deaf man if he could continue.

Sad irony is: if the round ended, Hamil wouldn't have come out for round 2.

[Innovator]

Because of the 12 to 6 elbows

[Shadrick]

So ridiculous. Styles looking like a joke again. No wonder why nobody watches this shit

who cares he's a vanilla midget, right?

[Innovator]

Gertner, it's artistic combat.

[The CyNick]

Didn't get to see the show. Did watch Talking Smack though, which continues to be awesome. Really enjoying how they are gearing Network shows to the hardcore fan. Very smart use of their properties.

I'm expecting big things from Baron Corbin in the next 12 months. They should give him a good showing in the Rumble and I would have him be the one to unseat Ziggler as IC champ.

[Cool King]

• I can see the Orton/Bray feud coming to an end at Survivor Series in a casket match. It very rarely happens without The Undertaker so it'll be interesting to see.

I think this will be the third time a casket match has happened in the WWE without The Undertaker being involved.

• Alexa defeating Naomi kind of puts right the wrong that happened at No Mercy in my opinion. It's now two weeks until her title match so she really needs to look like a legitimate threat to Lynch's title so her win had to happen.

Maybe next week she can have her rubber match against Naomi and win again, then the week before her title match, she can have some promo time.

Also, am I the only guy who finds Otunga incredibly biased towards Naomi?

I know he's the face colour commentator and he's supposed to root for the good guys, but the way it comes across to me is like he legitimately means what he says, but what he says has a weird vibe to it.

I don't know how to describe this vibe and put it into words, but I'll try. When he talks about Naomi, he talks like he's in love with her. If this was the Attitude Era, he would be openly talking about how attractive he finds her and how he would love to sleep with her if he wasn't married.

• Curt Hawkins is one of my favourite things about SmackDown. Coming out and not really doing anything reminds me of Chris Jericho when he returned in 2012.

I also love his quotes that are played over his theme. The best one this week was "You wanted to see him last week, but Curt Hawkins didn't want to see you!" and his stroppy walk away from the ring was funny too.

We now know that he'll be feuding with Crews and I can see Hawkins and Crews possibly having a few matches between now and Survivor Series, with their rubber match being part of the Survivor Series Pre-Show.

• Carmella, oh my God.

This whole segment felt like I was watching some terrible show on E! or MTV or some other terrible channel. It also felt like just one big advert for Total Bellas. (probably because it was)

Even though Carmella is just 100% all kinds of terrible, she actually wasn't wrong with what she was saying. She was actually making some good points.

• I still feel that Kenny & Mikey should drop The Spirit Squad name and change attire if they're going to be around for a while. I think they may be staying around until Survivor Series, but I actually wouldn't mind them staying permanently.

At first it was nice to see them back and we all had a little chuckle about The Spirit Squad being on WWE TV in 2016, but they've actually really grown on me to the point where I now wouldn't mind seeing them stay. Kenny is in fantastic shape and Mikey, although he has gotten a bit thicker, can still go in the ring.

Speaking of which, what was with Otunga (or possibly the guys in the back feeding Otunga lines) making a subtle fat joke about Mikey? He isn't even fat. I'd say he's more thick than fat.

To me, fat is someone like Kevin Owens.

• Why on earth did Jack Swagger job like a champion to Baron Corbin?

It will forever boggle my mind why Corbin is being portrayed the way he his.

• The main event was entertaining and it's cool that Ellsworth has a theme and graphics now, so we can expect to see more of him in the future, which is cool I guess.

The whole James Ellsworth thing is entertaining, but I feel the comedy segments with him kinda drag on a bit too long. They're funny at first and entertaining but then after a while, I find myself just watching and occasionally doing that "laugh" where you exhale through your nose and smile.

• I will say that SmackDown was again the A Show. I'm glad I've managed to get tickets to SmackDown when they come over here and I can see this SmackDown goodness live with my own eyes.

[Vastardikai]

Because of the 12 to 6 elbows

Hamil admitted post fight that his shoulder was messed up from the slam.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Wait, are they seriously pushing Ellsworth against Styles? Holy fuck, this company. Styles was like the one unsullied thing they had going for them and he's applying chinlocks to a guy with no chin that slips out of them? :-|

The good news is, Vince would have been laughing at that so much that he'll now love Styles even more, so he'll be champion forever and a day even if whatever mainstream appeal he has is dashed with this sort of shit.

Honestly though, Styles is one of the few guys good enough to do this, but they shouldn't be making him.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I haven't watched them since they've been back, but in theory, I am glad that Kenny & Mikey are back. Why not? Solid talents and big things were there for Kenny until the politics happened. I honestly think they could bring it up for an angle one day and Kenny could have a nice program against Cena. The dude is only 30.

I would like to see them move away from the Spirit Squad thing. Why not go with Ken Doane & Mike Mondo? I'd like them to reach out the Johnny Jeter, who was the most talented in the group, in my opinion. He couldn't leave his job for a one-off, but if they're going somewhere with this, he could be a great addition to the roster.

Baron Corbin reminds me of a guy who knows what to do, but he just doesn't know how to do it. He's got the lyrics but not the music.

[Ruien]

Wait, are they seriously pushing Ellsworth against Styles? Holy fuck, this company. Styles was like the one unsullied thing they had going for them and he's applying chinlocks to a guy with no chin that slips out of them? :-|

The good news is, Vince would have been laughing at that so much that he'll now love Styles even more, so he'll be champion forever and a day even if whatever mainstream appeal he has is dashed with this sort of shit.

Honestly though, Styles is one of the few guys good enough to do this, but they shouldn't be making him.

Its not a serious push. Its Ambrose costing AJ matches. AJ just destroys Ellsworth when there is actual wrestling going on. Its basically a way for them to drag the AJ/Ambrose feud on without putting them in the ring against each other (Which I am in favor of).

[Mr. Nerfect]

Point taken, but I think there are smarter and more effective ways to do that.

[Emperor Smeat]

Wait, are they seriously pushing Ellsworth against Styles? Holy fuck, this company. Styles was like the one unsullied thing they had going for them and he's applying chinlocks to a guy with no chin that slips out of them? :-|

The good news is, Vince would have been laughing at that so much that he'll now love Styles even more, so he'll be champion forever and a day even if whatever mainstream appeal he has is dashed with this sort of shit.

Honestly though, Styles is one of the few guys good enough to do this, but they shouldn't be making him.

Nope, just Smackdown's Creative managed to find a really great way to both stretch out the Styles-Ambrose feud and take someone who should have been a huge afterthought into something really entertaining for the crowd.

Between Cena being out and Orton being busy with Bray, only other realistic option would have been a lot more matches between Styles and Ambrose and risk neither looking good because of 50-50 booking.

Storywise, they already established Styles doesn't see Ellsworth as a real threat and never takes him seriously while being paranoid Ambrose is going to screw him out of the title.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Should watch the match, Noid. It's actually pretty hilarious.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I don't want to see the match, honestly. There's nothing about it that appeals to me.

[Ruien]

Point taken, but I think there are smarter and more effective ways to do that.

It's something different that everyone is getting into. Maybe there are more effective ways but this is actually fresh.

[The CyNick]

I don't want to see the match, honestly. There's nothing about it that appeals to me.

Noid coming off bad here. Par for the course.

[mike adamle]

:lol:

[KIRA]

Wait, are they seriously pushing Ellsworth against Styles? Holy fuck, this company. Styles was like the one unsullied thing they had going for them and he's applying chinlocks to a guy with no chin that slips out of them? :-|

The good news is, Vince would have been laughing at that so much that he'll now love Styles even more, so he'll be champion forever and a day even if whatever mainstream appeal he has is dashed with this sort of shit.

Honestly though, Styles is one of the few guys good enough to do this, but they shouldn't be making him.

Ellsworth is really just a device Ambrose(and DB to a lesser extent) are using to piss Aj off though.

Aj doesn't look weak because Ellsworth's wins have all been facilitated through Dean Ambrose and those wins usually come after Aj has murdered him in the ring.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Ellsworth is really just a device Ambrose(and DB to a lesser extent) are using to piss Aj off though.

Aj doesn't look weak because Ellsworth's wins have all been facilitated through Dean Ambrose and those wins usually come after Aj has murdered him in the ring.

That is a fair point in that I can understand that Ellsworth is just a device, but then consider you uttered the sentence "Aj doesn't look weak because Ellsworth's wins..." and think about what that implies. AJ is losing, but... Why are we even having that conversation about the World Champion? AJ doesn't look weak because... Why is it even a point of contention?

What does Ellsworth even get out of these wins if they're not coming at the expense of Styles? In the very explanation of the story a pattern of redundancy becomes apparent. That people are even justifying these wins and losses around the World freakin' Title as irrelevant says a lot about the current product.

I won't address CyNick directly, because it is a waste of time, but it is an entertainment product's responsibility to endear itself to the consumer. I don't need to force myself to go and see movies to tell you if the advertising campaign had any appeal to me. I'm not going to force myself to watch a wrestling product that's best defence is "oh, it doesn't matter." It sounds terrible; I'm not going to waste my time. It's amazing how many people don't get that this is a problem.

[Dewidi]

Is it me or did thechumptey dumptey reference totally go over lenses head b.c. to me he looked like he didn't get it also can lesnar even speak anymore b.c. all we hear is hot air coming from heyman anymore