Better Wrestler #5

[Destor]

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3 days!

<select><option selected="selected">Better Wrestler History</option><option>Trish Stratus vs Charlotte (27-13)</option><option>Trish Stratus vs The Miz (20-13)</option><option>Trish Stratus vs Booker T (19-19)</option><option>Trish Stratus vs The Big Show (19-9)</option></select>

<select><option selected="selected">Better Wrestler Hall of Fame</option><option>TBD</option></select>

<select><option selected="selected">Previous Better Wrestler History</option><option>#1.RVD vs CM Punk (34-19)</option><option>#2.RVD vs Santino Marella (36-4)</option><option>#3.RVD vs "Mr. Perfect" Curt Hennig (15-23)</option><option>#4."Mr. Perfect" Curt Hennig vs Tully Blanchard (30-5)</option><option>#5."Mr. Perfect" Curt Hennig vs Chris Jericho (15-23)</option><option>#6.Chris Jericho vs Brock Lesnar (34-10)</option><option>#7.Chris Jericho vs William Regal (38-14)</option><option>#8.Chris Jericho vs Eddie Guerrero (21-23)</option><option>#9.Eddie Guerrero vs Ricky "The Dragon" Steamboat (26-7)</option><option>#10.Eddie Guerrero vs "Macho Man" Randy Savage (26-19)</option><option>#11.Eddie Guerrero vs Diamond Dallas Page (39-8)</option><option>#12.Eddie Guerrero vs "Stone Cold" Steve Austin(19-28)</option><option>#13."Stone Cold" Steve Austin vs Chris Benoit (32-13)</option><option>#14."Stone Cold" Steve Austin vs Jake "The Snake" Roberts (29-10)</option><option>#15."Stone Cold" Steve Austin vs Sting (36-16)</option><option>#16."Stone Cold" Steve Austin vs Bret "The Hitman" Hart (32-31)</option><option>#17.Hulk Hogan vs John Cena (15-24)</option><option>#18.John Cena vs Lex Luger (32-6)</option><option>#19.John Cena vs Ultimate Warrior (29-18)</option><option>#20.John Cena vs Dean Malenko (9-40)</option><option>#21.Dean Malenko vs Billy Kidman (31-7)</option><option>#22.Dean Malenko vs Ultimo Dragon (22-15)</option><option>#23.Dean Malenko vs Taz (15-17)</option><option>#24.Taz vs Sabu (38-2)</option><option>#25.Taz vs Jeff Hardy (25-16)</option><option>#26.Taz vs Bam Bam Bigelow (26-12)</option><option>#27.Taz vs Triple H (24-22)</option><option>#28.Edge vs Christian Cage (22-23)</option><option>#29.Christian Cage vs Raven (23-22)</option><option>#30.Christian vs Matt Hardy (22-19)</option><option>#31.Christian vs Ted Dibiase (24-25)</option><option>#32.Ted Dibiase vs "Rowdy" Roddy Piper (16-19)</option><option>#33."Rowdy" Roddy Piper vs "The British Bulldog" Davey Boy Smith (25-19)</option><option>#34."Rowdy" Roddy Piper vs Bob Backlund (26-6)</option><option>#35."Rowdy" Roddy Piper vs The Dynamite Kid (26-13)</option><option>#36."Rowdy Roddy Piper vs Ric Flair (16-19)</option><option>#37.Ric Flair vs Bret "The Hitman" Hart (19-17)</option><option>#38.Ric Flair vs Andre "The Giant" (28-5)</option><option>#39.Ric Flair vs Triple H (26-11)</option><option>#40.Ric Flair vs Shawn Michaels (20-26)</option><option>#41.Shawn Michaels vs Jushin "Thunder" Lyger (26-15)</option><option>#42.Shawn Michaels vs Perry Saturn (36-12)</option><option>#43.Shawn Michaels vs The Undertaker (29-11)</option><option>#44.Shawn Michaels vs The Rock (28-30)</option><option>#45.The Rock vs Trish Stratus (21-16)</option><option>#46.The Rock vs Lance Storm (22-19)</option><option>#47.The Rock vs Owen Hart (18-12)</option><option>#48.The Rock vs Kurt Angle (5-24)</option><option>#49.Kurt Angle vs Ken Shamrock (36-5)</option><option>#50.Kurt Angle vs Rob Van Dam (23-13)</option><option>#51.Kurt Angle vs "King Kong" Bruiser Brody (20-10)</option><option>#52.Kurt Angle vs Mick Foley (31-6)</option><option>#53.John Morrison vs Braden Walker (36-11)</option><option>#54.John Morrison vs Kofi Kingston (34-5)</option><option>#55.John Morrison vs CM Punk (14-28)</option><option>#56.CM Punk vs Tajiri (28-20)</option><option>#57.CM Punk vs Booker T (24-23)</option><option>#58.CM Punk vs Samoa Joe (53-4)</option><option>#59.CM Punk vs "Macho Man" Randy Savage (19-36)</option><option>#60."Macho Man" Randy Savage vs "Adorable" Adrian Adonis (47-2)</option><option>#61."Macho Man" Randy Savage vs Goldberg (49-4)</option><option>#62."Macho Man" Randy Savage vs "Mr. Perfect" Curt Hennig (31-38)</option><option>#63."Mr.Perfect" Curt Hennig vs "Diamond" Dallas Page (51-17)</option><option>#64."Mr. Perfect" Curt Hennig vs William Regal (37-18)</option><option>#65."Mr. Perfect" Curt Hennig vs Brock Lesnar (48-4)</option><option>#66."Mr. Perfect" Curt Hennig vs Eddie Guerrero (39-40)</option><option>#67. Eddie Guerrero vs Arn Anderson (33-22)</option><option>#68. Eddie Guerrero vs Jake "The Snake" Roberts (37-36)</option><option>#69. Eddie Guerrero vs Sting (41-16)</option><option>#70. Chris Jericho vs Eddie Guerrero (45-18)</option><option>#71. Chris Jericho vs Rey Mysterio (63-3)</option><option>#72. Chris Jericho vs Kevin Nash (54-12)</option><option>#73. Chris Jericho vs Dean Malenko (39-9)</option><option>#74. Chris Jericho vs Ricky Steamboat (41-30)</option><option>#75. Masato Tanaka vs Mike Awesome (24-18)</option><option>#76. Masato Tanaka vs X-Pac (34-16)</option><option>#77. Masato Tanaka vs Rikishi (36-13)</option><option>#78. Brian Pillman vs Masato Tanaka (31-13)</option><option>#79. Brian Pillman vs Road Dogg (44-7)</option><option>#80. Ultimo Dragon vs Brian Pillman (29-28)</option><option>#81. Ultimo Dragon vs Goldust (35-19)</option><option>#82. Ultimo Dragon vs Barry Windham (36-9)</option><option>#83. Ultimo Dragon vs Randy Orton (35-34)</option><option>#84. Edge vs Ultimo Dragon (48-8)</option><option>#85. Edge vs Jeff Hardy (54-5)</option><option>#86. Edge vs Razor Ramon (44-21)</option><option>#87. Ted Dibiase vs Edge (39-33)</option><option>#88. Ted Dibiase vs Doink the Clown (59-4)</option><option>#89. Ted Dibiase vs Rick Rude (34-20)</option><option>#90. Ted Dibiase vs. Christian (39-32)</option><option>#91. Ted Dibiase vs. Bret Hart (24-55)</option><option>#92. Bret Hart vs. Scott Steiner (56-8)</option><option>#93. Bret Hart vs. Christopher Daniels (47-15)</option><option>#94. Bret Hart vs. Triple H (40-22)</option><option>#95. Bret Hart vs. Shawn Michaels (26-47)</option><option>#96. Shawn Michaels vs. Marty Jannetty (54-7)</option><option>#97. Shawn Michaels vs. Bryan Danielson (36-12)</option><option>#98. Shawn Michaels vs. Chris Benoit (38-33)</option><option>#99. Shawn Michaels vs. The Rock (44-34)</option><option>#100. Earthquake vs. Vader (10-65)</option><option>#101. Vader vs. Bam Bam Bigelow (33-32)</option><option>#102. Vader vs. The Great Muta (32-29)</option><option>#103. Vader vs. Mick Foley (16-42)</option><option>#104. Mick Foley vs. Al Snow (49-7)</option><option>#105. Mick Foley vs. Jerry Lynn (41-11)</option><option>#106. Mick Foley vs. Rob Van Dam (24-38)</option><option>#107. Rob Van Dam vs. Tommy Dreamer (52-4)</option><option>#108. Rob Van Dam vs. John Morrison (54-14)</option><option>#109. Rob Van Dam vs. Owen Hart (36-36)</option><option>#110. Rob Van Dam vs. The Undertaker (22-53)</option><option>#111. The Undertaker vs. Owen Hart (62-16)</option><option>#112. The Undertaker vs. Kane (63-3)</option><option>#113. The Undertaker vs. Diamond Dallas Page (51-18)</option><option>#114. The Undertaker vs. Ric Flair (44-43)</option><option>#115. John "Bradshaw" Layfield vs. Ron Simmons (33-25)</option><option>#116. John "Bradshaw" Layfield vs. Juventud Guerrera (28-19)</option><option>#117. John "Bradshaw" Layfield vs. The Big Show (25-39)</option><option>#118. The Big Show vs. Sid (50-10)</option><option>#119. The Big Show vs. Lance Storm (18-48)</option><option>#120. Lance Storm vs. Meng (65-7)</option><option>#121. Lance Storm vs. John Cena (53-18)</option><option>#122. Lance Storm vs. Sting (23-50)</option><option>#123. Sting vs. The Ultimate Warrior (57-18)</option><option>#124. Sting vs. Dusty Rhodes (50-24)</option><option>#125. Sting vs. CM Punk (41-32)</option><option>#126. Sting vs. Randy Savage (27-50)</option><option>#127. Randy Savage vs. Jim Duggan (65-7)</option><option>#128. Randy Savage vs. AJ Styles (64-13)</option><option>#129. Randy Savage vs. Booker T (61-16)</option><option>#130. Randy Savage vs. Roddy Piper (55-27)</option><option>#131. Rick Martel vs. Tito Santana (35-29)</option><option>#132. Rick Martel vs. Shane Douglas (29-36)</option><option>#133. Shane Douglas vs. Rhino (35-38)</option><option>#134. Rhino vs. Jeff Jarrett (30-36)</option><option>#135. Jeff Jarrett vs. Mike Rotunda (30-38)</option><option>#136. Mike Rotunda vs. Chris Kanyon (44-24)</option><option>#137. Mike Rotunda vs. Barry Windham (38-17)</option><option>#138. Mike Rotunda vs. Scott Hall (11-63)</option><option>#139. Scott Hall vs. Goldberg (60-17)</option><option>#140. Scott Hall vs. Kevin Nash (47-31)</option><option>#141. Scott Hall vs. Brian Pillman (44-34)</option><option>#142. Scott Hall vs. Edge (26-64)</option><option>#143. Edge vs. Matt Hardy (71-12)</option><option>#144. Edge vs. Arn Anderson (38-34)</option><option>#145. Edge vs. Randy Orton (45-36)</option><option>#146. Edge vs. Triple H (29-47)</option><option>#147. Triple H vs. Batista (65-8)</option><option>#148. Triple H vs. Raven (54-25)</option><option>#149. Triple H vs. Ricky Steamboat (44-43)</option><option>#150. Triple H vs. Eddie Guerrero (43-56)</option><option>#151. Eddie Guerrero vs. Trish Stratus (58-12)</option><option>#152. Eddie Guerrero vs. The Great Muta (47-11)</option><option>#153. Eddie Guerrero vs. Curt Hennig (34-43)</option><option>#154. Curt Hennig vs. Jerry Lawler (63-9)</option><option>#155. Curt Hennig vs. Hulk Hogan (54-17)</option><option>#156. Curt Hennig vs. Christian (47-26)</option><option>#157. Curt Hennig vs. The Rock (31-44)</option><option>#158. The Rock vs. Steve Blackman (54-22)</option><option>#159. The Rock vs. Vader (54-14)</option><option>#160. The Rock vs. Mick Foley (48-22)</option><option>#161. The Rock vs. Bret Hart (42-49)</option><option>#162. Bret Hart vs. Davey Boy Smith (70-8)</option><option>#163. Bret Hart vs. Dean Malenko (52-16)</option><option>#164. Bret Hart vs. Owen Hart (47-18)</option><option>#165. Bret Hart vs. Ric Flair (53-32)</option><option>#166. Barry Darsow vs. Ed Leslie (45-13)</option><option>#167. Barry Darsow vs. Jacques Rougeau (17-38)</option><option>#168. Jacques Rougeau vs. Evan Bourne (18-49)</option><option>#169. Evan Bourne vs. Mr. Anderson (38-16)</option><option>#170. Evan Bourne vs. Bryan Danielson(10-50)</option><option>#171. Bryan Danielson vs. Billy Gunn (56-16)</option><option>#172. Bryan Danielson vs. The Miz (42-26)</option><option>#173. Bryan Danielson vs. Chris Benoit (27-40)</option><option>#174. Chris Benoit vs. Chavo Guerrero (53-8)</option><option>#175. Chris Benoit vs. Perry Saturn (48-13)</option><option>#176. Chris Benoit vs. Lance Storm (36-21)</option><option>#177. Chris Benoit vs. Ted Dibiase (41-34)</option><option>#178. TAKA Michinoku vs. Sho Funaki (51-9)</option><option>#179. TAKA Michinoku vs. Santino Marella (48-9)</option><option>#180. TAKA Michinoku vs. Rey Mysterio (23-41)</option><option>#181. Rey Mysterio vs. Gregory Helms (34-8)</option><option>#182. Rey Mysterio vs. Jeff Hardy (41-18)</option><option>#183. Rey Mysterio vs. Diamond Dallas Page (34-37)</option><option>#184. Diamond Dallas Page vs. Big Boss Man (49-5)</option><option>#185. Diamond Dallas Page vs. Yoshihiro Tajiri (34-18)</option><option>#186. Diamond Dallas Page vs. CM Punk (19-41)</option><option>#187. CM Punk vs. Terry Funk (35-18)</option><option>#188. CM Punk vs. Kane (40-13)</option><option>#189. CM Punk vs. Rob Van Dam (39-22)</option><option>#190. CM Punk vs. "Rowdy" Roddy Piper (39-37)</option><option>#191. Ted DiBiase, Jr. vs. Cody Rhodes (23-36)</option><option>#192. Cody Rhodes vs. Goldust (10-51)</option><option>#193. Goldust vs. Shelton Benjamin (41-22)</option><option>#194. Goldust vs. Rick Rude (21-37)</option><option>#195. Rick Rude vs. Rick Martel (42-6)</option><option>#196. Rick Rude vs. The Big Show (30-15)</option><option>#197. Rick Rude vs. Jake Roberts (26-38)</option><option>#198. Jake Roberts vs. John "Bradshaw" Layfield (50-16)</option><option>#199. Jake Roberts vs. Arn Anderson (39-31)</option><option>#200. Jake Roberts vs. Brian Pillman (34-20)</option><option>#201. Jake Roberts vs. Edge (42-28)</option><option>#202. Raven vs. Shane Douglas (45-6)</option><option>#203. Raven vs. R-Truth (39-6)</option><option>#204. Raven vs. Booker T (31-40)</option><option>#205. Booker T vs. Jerry Lawler (37-20)</option><option>#206. Booker T vs. Sheamus (51-11)</option><option>#207. Booker T vs. Christian (21-33)</option><option>#208. Christian vs. Jushin "Thunder" Liger (30-21)</option><option>#209. Christian vs. Kevin Nash (30-24)</option><option>#210. Christian vs. Randy Orton (41-22)</option><option>#211. Christian vs. Eddie Guerrero (10-66)</option><option>#212. Eddie Guerrero vs. Andre the Giant (55-16)</option><option>#213. Eddie Guerrero vs. Hulk Hogan (47-29)</option><option>#214. Eddie Guerrero vs. Scott Hall (47-18)</option><option>#215. Eddie Guerrero vs. The Rock (28-40)</option><option>#216. The Rock vs. William Regal (39-17)</option><option>#217. The Rock vs. Brock Lesnar (47-13)</option><option>#218. The Rock vs. Sting (31-19)</option><option>#219. The Rock vs. Triple H (40-27)</option><option>#220. Ahmed Johnson vs. Ezekiel Jackson (41-11)</option><option>#221. Ahmed Johnson vs. The Godfather (6-44)</option><option>#222. The Godfather vs. D'Lo Brown (9-42)</option><option>#223. D'Lo Brown vs. Val Venis (29-20)</option><option>#224. D'Lo Brown vs. Mark Henry (36-23)</option><option>#225. D'Lo Brown vs. The Miz (10-46)</option><option>#226. The Miz vs. John Morrison (52-13)</option><option>#227. The Miz vs. Dolph Ziggler (39-49)</option><option>#228. Dolph Ziggler vs. Wade Barrett (42-21)</option><option>#229. Dolph Ziggler vs. John Cena (38-31)</option><option>#230. Dolph Ziggler vs. Lance Storm (38-37)</option><option>#231. Dolph Ziggler vs. Curt Hennig (18-55)</option><option>#233. Curt Hennig vs. Zack Ryder (62-8)</option><option>#234. Curt Hennig vs. Vader (45-14)</option><option>#234. Curt Hennig vs. Owen Hart (38-22)</option><option>#235. Curt Hennig vs. Ric Flair (48-39)</option><option>#236. Jesse James vs. Billy Gunn (16-38)</option><option>#237. Billy Gunn vs. Sabu (40-15)</option><option>#238. Billy Gunn vs. Scott Steiner (20-38)</option><option>#239. Scott Steiner vs. Billy Kidman (28-26)</option><option>#240. Scott Steiner vs. Alberto Del Rio (25-34)</option><option>#241. Alberto Del Rio vs. X-Pac (29-25)</option><option>#242. Alberto Del Rio vs. Cody Rhodes (19-44)</option><option>#243. Cody Rhodes vs. Kofi Kingston (49-7)</option><option>#244. Cody Rhodes vs. Dusty Rhodes (30-30)</option><option>#245. Cody Rhodes vs. Goldust (18-31)</option><option>#246. Goldust vs. Dusty Rhodes (31-15)</option><option>#247. Goldust vs. Vader (29-39)</option><option>#248. Vader vs. Yokozuna (55-8)</option><option>#249. Vader vs Stan Hansen (31-10)</option><option>#250. Vader vs. Mick Foley (15-41)</option><option>#251. Mick Foley vs. Terry Funk (34-18)</option><option>#252. Mick Foley vs. Santino Marella (60-2)</option><option>#253. Mick Foley vs. Diamond Dallas Page (40-19)</option><option>#254. Mick Foley vs. Edge (49-28)</option><option>#255. Tajiri vs. Super Crazy (62-4)</option><option>#256. Tajiri vs The Great Muta (17-35)</option><option>#257. The Great Muta vs. Ultimo Dragon (32-28)</option><option>#258. The Great Muta vs. Brian Pillman (32-21)</option><option>#259. The Great Muta vs. Booker T (24-36)</option><option>#260. Booker T vs. Ron Simmons (50-13)</option><option>#261. Booker T vs. John "Bradshaw" Layfield (37-20)</option><option>#262. Booker T vs. Daniel Bryan (28-20)</option><option>#263. Booker T vs. "Rowdy" Roddy Piper (20-40)</option><option>#264. "Rowdy" Roddy Piper vs. "Cowboy" Bob Orton (48-6)</option><option>#265. "Rowdy" Roddy Piper vs. Christian (30-13)</option><option>#266. "Rowdy" Roddy Piper vs. Scott Hall (37-15)</option><option>#267. "Rowdy" Roddy Piper vs. Eddie Guerrero (31-32)</option><option>#268. Eddie Guerrero vs. Mr. Anderson (56-1)</option><option>#269. Eddie Guerrero vs. Rey Mysterio (41-11)</option><option>#270. Eddie Guerrero vs. Ted DiBiase (41-13)</option><option>#271. Eddie Guerrero vs. Triple H (40-32)</option><option>#272. Kane vs. Ryback (50-15)</option><option>#273. Kane vs. Sid (28-23)</option><option>#274. Kane vs. Big Show (41-13)</option><option>#275. Kane vs. Sting (12-46)</option><option>#276. Sting vs. Lex Luger (49-2)</option><option>#277. Sting vs. Rick Rude (30-28)</option><option>#278. Sting vs. Rob Van Dam (37-12)</option><option>#279. Sting vs. Hulk Hogan (29-30)</option><option>#280. Hulk Hogan vs. Andre "The Giant" (46-14)</option><option>#281. Hulk Hogan vs. Jeff Hardy (49-11)</option><option>#282. Hulk Hogan vs. Ultimate Warrior (37-15)</option></select>

<select><option selected="selected">Previous Better Wrestler Hall of Fame</option><option>"Stone Cold" Steve Austin</option><option>Taz</option><option>Kurt Angle</option><option>Chris Jericho</option><option>"The Heartbreak Kid" Shawn Michaels</option><option>The Undertaker</option><option>"Macho Man" Randy Savage</option><option>Bret "Hitman" Hart</option><option>Chris Benoit</option><option>CM Punk</option><option>Jake "The Snake" Roberts</option><option>The Rock</option><option>"Mr. Perfect" Curt Hennig</option><option>Mick Foley</option><option>Eddie Guerrero</option><option>Hulk Hogan</option></select>

<select><option selected="selected">Previous Best Wrestler Tournament History</option><option>ROUND 1</option><option>#1. Randy Savage vs. Taz (72-4)</option><option>#2. The Undertaker vs. Steve Austin (42-42)</option><option>#3. Chris Jericho vs. Jake Roberts (52-15)</option><option>#4. Bret Hart vs. CM Punk (44-24)</option><option>#5. Curt Hennig vs. The Rock (27-31)</option><option>#6. Mick Foley vs. Kurt Angle (18-41)</option><option>#7. Eddie Guerrero vs. Shawn Michaels (13-50)</option><option>#8. Chris Benoit vs. Hulk Hogan (28-36)</option><option>ROUND 2</option><option>#9. Randy Savage vs. Hulk Hogan (41-18)</option><option>#10. The Undertaker vs. Steve Austin vs. Shawn Michaels (14-22-26)</option><option>#11. Chris Jericho vs. Kurt Angle (30-27)</option><option>#12. Bret Hart vs. The Rock (32-34)</option><option>ROUND 3</option><option>#13. Randy Savage vs. The Rock (41-22)</option><option>#14. Chris Jericho vs. Shawn Michaels (20-43)</option><option>ROUND 4</option><option>#15. Randy Savage vs Shawn Michaels (25-48)</option></select>

[Nicky Fives]

Uh oh. Sorry Trish, first time you don't get my vote :(

[Anybody Thrilla]

Good run, Trish. You'll live on in my memories. And partially dried up in some of my socks.

[Bad News Gertner]

Trish. Steamboat never played heel.

[Destor]

Trish. Steamboat never played heel.
Initially I almost voted the same way, but I think his accomplishments as a baby outweight hers. An entire generation had their style of in ring product shaped off of how he worked. his influence is just greater than hers.

[Anybody Thrilla]

Not arguing anything here, but has it ever been made clear why Steamboat was never a heel? Was that his choice?

[Destor]

Yes


"I never had a match where I worked as a heel. When I started in 1974, I was always a face, and the reason for that was that the heel would always lead the match. Now for me to graduate to be a heel, most times you started out as a face, and then when you got good, you would transfer over to a heel and you were the guy in charge. So I never had an opportunity to work as a heel, although in and around 1991, I expressed my desire to work as a heel and the response that I got back was it would never work. Pat Patterson said that I was the consummate babyface and it would probably hurt my career. I tried to push it to them hard and said, “Let me go under a mask and let me go under a full suit and cover up my body. I won’t throw any chops and I’ll just kick and punch and I’ll be a heel. Then the big surprise, if we can carry this thing through, after about a year or so, have somebody finally takes the mask off, hopefully the response we get from the fans will be ‘Oh my God, all this time it’s been Ricky Steamboat,'” but they wouldn’t buy it."

[Anybody Thrilla]

That doesn't sound like his choice. It sounds like he WANTED to.

[Destor]

That doesn't sound like his choice. It sounds like he WANTED to.
91 was very late in career, but Pat was right. It would have never worked. We'd be talking about his awful heel run.

[Anybody Thrilla]

Speculation

[Destor]

Speculation
It's true, that is speculative. I firmly stand by it however. Some people should never work heel, others should never work face. *shrug*

[Anybody Thrilla]

Would you say that The Miz is the antithesis of Ricky Steamboat in that aspect?

[mike adamle]

http://www3.pictures.gi.zimbio.com/Chris+Jericho+Ricky+Steamboat+WrestleMania+T999e6wBPc3l.jpg

The Dragon!!

[Wishbone]

Okay, I can buy Trish beating out everyone else, but against Steamboat? Come the fuck on, people! Anyone who votes for Trish here is a stupid idiot!

Seriously though, I didn't even grow up watching Steamboat. Everything I know about him comes from watching old footage years after the fact and I still find him to be one of the best I've ever seen. And that's saying something because I honestly can't understand why many so-called "legends" are so revered when I go back and watch their stuff, but with Steamboat I definitely get it. I'm literally perplexed as to how anyone could possibly say Trish was the better wrestler here.

[Wishbone]

Would you say that The Miz is the antithesis of Ricky Steamboat in that aspect?

In truth Miz should work extremely well as a face. The dude has the sympathetic backstory, the love of the business, etc. It's so weird that it just doesn't work for him for some reason. Maybe it's his face... He does have this sort of douche-y quality to him that makes you just want to punch him. Anyway, I know the question wasn't directed at me, but I'd definitely say Miz is the antithesis to Steamboat in that regard. The dude just doesn't work as a face for some odd reason.

[Destor]

Would you say that The Miz is the antithesis of Ricky Steamboat in that aspect?
Yes, 100%
In truth Miz should work extremely well as a face. The dude has the sympathetic backstory, the love of the business, etc. It's so weird that it just doesn't work for him for some reason. Maybe it's his face... He does have this sort of douche-y quality to him that makes you just want to punch him. Anyway, I know the question wasn't directed at me, but I'd definitely say Miz is the antithesis to Steamboat in that regard. The dude just doesn't work as a face for some odd reason.
It's def his face.

[Bad News Gertner]

Steamboat was also a shitty draw

[Destor]

Steamboat was also a shitty draw
Steamboat could only draw as well as who he was working, true. But I think we're comparing Steamboat to the Flairs of the world and not Trish. Which is unfair in this competition.

[mike adamle]

Trish vs. Ric Flair would've been lame. Steamboat vs. Ric Flair was classic. I'm gonna vote for Tugboat here

[Anybody Thrilla]

One time when I was a kid, someone called him Ricky the Steamboat Dragon, and I laughed for like an hour.

[Black Widow]

Ha!

Ricky for sure.

[Emperor Smeat]

Steamboat.

One of the all-time greats in WWE history and had one of the best matches ever in Mania history against Macho Man.

[Blue Demon]

No doubt....Rick Steamboat.....him Vs. Savage is one of the best matches ever, and considering people are still talking about it 30 years later says something.

[Anybody Thrilla]

I hear about that match all the time, but I think the only time I've ever watched it was when I rented Wrestlemania 3 from Blockbuster Video when I was like 9 years old, and I haven't watched it back since. It just seem like one of those matches that we're all just made to believe is one of the greatest matches ever for...I dunno, whatever reason. Does it age well?

[Anybody Thrilla]

Trish's best match was probably her Wrestlemania match with Mickie James. How does that stack up against Steamboat/Savage?

[mike adamle]

Poorly

[#1-norm-fan]

Steamboat's in my top 5 favorite wrestlers ever. Sorry, Trish. Not this time.

[#1-norm-fan]

Was pretty sure she'd be winning this poll though. I'm pleasantly surprised.

[Mercenary]

Trish. Steamboat never played heel.

[Lock Jaw]

Hello Brunette Trish......

But apologies, because I have to vote for Ricky Steamboat.

I have definitely seen a lot more of Trish than I have Steamboat, but you know..... given the choice to watch any Trish match and any Steamboat match, I would probably pick Steamboat.......... unless, of course, the Trish match was a mixed tag team match alongside Christian!

[Ruien]

Went with Trish. Didn't see much of Ricky honestly and I don't care too. And Trish is a legend. I don't believe Ricky is legend status but I could be wrong. More like super HoFer.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Steamboat in this one. One of the more legendary babyface workers of all-time. It is fair to criticize his ability to draw and whether he worked heel when talking about his place on the all-time list, but his significance to the business, artistically, trumps the brief candle in the night that Trish was. She had a great and deserved run.

Also, I'd like to say that I think Savage vs. Steamboat is one of the more fun "old" matches I've watched. I also have to watch Steamboat retrospectively, and often the lack of the emotion of the time has an effect on how you view back these matches. Savage vs. Steamboat is a timeless classic for me.

I actually find it harder to get into the lauded Flair/Steamboat series.

[DAMN iNATOR]

Trish's best match was probably her Wrestlemania match with Mickie James. How does that stack up against Steamboat/Savage?

Her best stuff was definitely her feuds with Lita. The Mickie/Trish "stalker" angle just felt like the old DDP/'Taker storyline except Trish knew who her stalker was all along and there was no third party involved.

[Juan]

The Mickie/Trish "stalker" angle just felt like the old DDP/'Taker storyline except Trish knew who her stalker was all along

So it wasn't like DDP/Taker.......?

[RP]

Trish Stratus easily

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Trish's best match was probably her Wrestlemania match with Mickie James. How does that stack up against Steamboat/Savage?

Pretty well. I don't recall either Savage or Steamboat simulating tasting each others genitals. Although I didn't see that WM live, so they could have edited it out.

[Blue Demon]

Not the greatest quality, but whatever.

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[DAMN iNATOR]

So it wasn't like DDP/Taker.......?

It absolutely was, except for those two very minor differences. Nonetheless, my point that any Trish/Lita match you could mention was better by a mile than Trish/Mickie at WM 22.

[Ruien]

The match or the storyline? The Mickie/Trish storyline was by far the best story in all women's wrestling. It would probably be top 10 overall if you include the men.

[Anybody Thrilla]

Her best stuff was definitely her feuds with Lita. The Mickie/Trish "stalker" angle just felt like the old DDP/'Taker storyline except Trish knew who her stalker was all along and there was no third party involved.

This is a very inaccurate assessment. Those two things were absolutely nothing alike. Not even close. Don't argue this. Just know that you are not right.

Pretty well. I don't recall either Savage or Steamboat simulating tasting each others genitals. Although I didn't see that WM live, so they could have edited it out.

It really bothers me that they edited out that part from Trish and Mickie. It kind of made that match iconic. If they edited the same out of Steamboat/Savage, bless them.

Not the greatest quality, but whatever.

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I might go back and watch it on the Network one day.

[Shisen Kopf]

20 people here have caught the gay!

[Rammsteinmad]

Steamboat.

His surprise return in that brief feud with Chris Jericho was probably one of the most memorable highlights of 2009.

[Destor]

It absolutely was, except for those two very minor differences. Nonetheless, my point that any Trish/Lita match you could mention was better by a mile than Trish/Mickie at WM 22.
The GOOB iNATOR is running wild

[Bad News Gertner]

Brother

[Mercenary]

Steamboat.

His surprise return in that brief feud with Chris Jericho was probably one of the most memorable highlights of 2009.



And didn't Otunga almost kill him the next night?

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Trish has been armdragged out of the Better Wrestler Hall of Fame.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

And didn't Otunga almost kill him the next night?

He had a stroke or something after the match.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Steamboat.

His surprise return in that brief feud with Chris Jericho was probably one of the most memorable highlights of 2009.

I actually had to look up who the other legends were in that match, because Steamboat shone so brightly.

[#1-norm-fan]

That match just made it all that much sadder that he retired so young. Steamboat vs HBK is probably my all-time dream match and after watching him against Jericho it just showed how possible it would have been during that time he was out of the ring for him and HBK to still put on a 5 star match.

[Bad News Gertner]

20 people here have caught the gay!

I know. Look at all these gaybirds voting against Trish.

[Mr. Nerfect]

That match just made it all that much sadder that he retired so young. Steamboat vs HBK is probably my all-time dream match and after watching him against Jericho it just showed how possible it would have been during that time he was out of the ring for him and HBK to still put on a 5 star match.

Coked up HBK vs. Steamboat only.

[Mercenary]

Steamboat had the charisma of a wooden board

[Destor]

Steamboat had the charisma of a wooden board
You dont know what charisma is clearly

[#BROKEN Hasney]

You dont know what charisma is clearly

I think there's 5,855 posts as of this posting that prove that...

[Destor]

I think there's 5,855 posts as of this posting that prove that...People get it confised with Bravado/Showmanship when it has NOTHING to do with it.

[Mercenary]

Oh I'm sorry I don't cock suck the guy who never play heel cause he was afraid of change. A;though I bet that stroke brought it out of him., and with that I just played a better heel than Steamboat could ever do.

[Destor]

Oh I'm sorry I don't cock suck the guy who never play heel cause he was afraid of change. A;though I bet that stroke brought it out of him., and with that I just played a better heel than Steamboat could ever do.Yup, no clue what charisma is. :y:

[Mr. Nerfect]

People get it confised with Bravado/Showmanship when it has NOTHING to do with it.

:y:

There are guys that aren't loud and bombastic on the mic that are charismatic as hell. And there are people that can talk like crazy who just, for whatever reason, aren't charismatic.