Official SmackDown LIVE Thread November 29, 2016 Wyatts, Alphas and Contracts OH MY! (also 205Live)

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Let's go!

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

On the Steve Austin show Becky said that Alexa was her traveling buddy. They talking all the time so this match should be da fucking shit.

[ClockShot]

Holy hardware, Batman!

[Evil Vito]

Beckyyyyyyyyyyy :love:

[ClockShot]

Renee got Dean's jacket.

And Alexa just took a shot. Oooooooooooooooooooooooooh!

[Mercenary]

Ugh Beckys accent just argggggggh

[ClockShot]

So, is there a sledgehammer under the table?

You know, a contract signing and all.

[Droford]

She's gonna puke

[Emperor Smeat]

:lol:

[Droford]

God dann it stop saying Alexa

Makes my Echo dot go crazy

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Will it be a table match?

[Triple A]

I hope Alexa Bliss beats Becky Lynch's ass to become the new SmackDOwn women's champion!!!

[KIRA]

YEA!

[ClockShot]

SHE BLEEDS!

[slik]

No stairs match at the PPV. SHAMEFUL.

[slik]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">New “105 Live” to showcase WWE’s Kids Division: <a href="https://t.co/sWzJdIioXe">https://t.co/sWzJdIioXe</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WWE?src=hash">#WWE</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/205live?src=hash">#205live</a> <a href="https://t.co/z40Uixmcdl">pic.twitter.com/z40Uixmcdl</a></p>&mdash; Kayfabe News (@KayfabeNews) <a href="https://twitter.com/KayfabeNews/status/803767540010905600">November 30, 2016</a></blockquote>
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[slik]

Alexa Bliss is great. <3

[Savio]

Can't complain about an eye poke when Becky started it with a cheapshot.

[slik]

I hope Alexa Bliss beats Becky Lynch's ass to become the new SmackDOwn women's champion!!!

me 2

put Becky thru a table this Sunday plz!

[ClockShot]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">New “105 Live” to showcase WWE’s Kids Division: <a href="https://t.co/sWzJdIioXe">https://t.co/sWzJdIioXe</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WWE?src=hash">#WWE</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/205live?src=hash">#205live</a> <a href="https://t.co/z40Uixmcdl">pic.twitter.com/z40Uixmcdl</a></p>&mdash; Kayfabe News (@KayfabeNews) <a href="https://twitter.com/KayfabeNews/status/803767540010905600">November 30, 2016</a></blockquote>
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Now I'm having fond memories doing power bombs to my brother on our trampoline.

Fun times. Never listened to that "Don't try this at home" crap.

[Emperor Smeat]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">TLC is <a href="https://twitter.com/HEELZiggler">@HEELZiggler</a>'s last chance against <a href="https://twitter.com/mikethemiz">@mikethemiz</a> until the next one <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/SDLive?src=hash">#SDLive</a></p>&mdash; WWE Creative Humor (@WWECreative_ish) <a href="https://twitter.com/WWECreative_ish/status/803770198687879168">November 30, 2016</a></blockquote>
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[SlickyTrickyDamon]

They didn't have those messages when I was growing up. So, we all did backyard wrestling.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Not everybody should have those "Matt Facts"

[ClockShot]

Looks like Otunga has been visiting the tattoo parlor these days.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

The match is heating up! So, lets go to break!

[slik]

Does anyone else want to see Maryse vs Becky Lynch at some point?

[ClockShot]

Ooh. A trailer for the Assassin's Creed movie.

I totally forgot about this.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Wonder when the Mrs. will make Otunga quit WWE entirely.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Does anyone else want to see Maryse vs Becky Lynch at some point?

In a match no.

[ClockShot]

Does anyone else want to see Maryse vs Becky Lynch at some point?

With the "ring attire" outfits she wears, this should have happened already.

If she's not getting in the ring, she should be dressing like Lana.

That's my opinion.

[slik]

No "Stairs Match" at TLC this year.

I will never forget Michael Cole saying "stairs are surrounding the ring" before the stairs match last year.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Alexa Bliss is fucking horrible. She's a terrible actress, and her whole gimmick depends on her acting like a bitch. Someone told me she keeps improving. She still looks as awkward as she did months ago. Her facial expressions are ridiculous, but not in a wonderful William Regal/Vince McMahon sort of way.

Crowd died after the table spot.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Tye-a-mania is still going strong brother! 10!

[Mr. Nerfect]

Baron Corbin wrestling in a shirt to cover up his weird belly button.

[Emperor Smeat]

:lol: Otunga claiming Ziggler would easily climb the ladder after puling off two big moves ... Ziggler was on the ground the whole time withering in pain.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Kalisto is so fucking fun to watch.

[Mercenary]

Alexa Bliss is fucking horrible. She's a terrible actress, and her whole gimmick depends on her acting like a bitch. Someone told me she keeps improving. She still looks as awkward as she did months ago. Her facial expressions are ridiculous, but not in a wonderful William Regal/Vince McMahon sort of way.

Crowd died after the table spot.

Hfdy! Bayley is worse

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Alexa Bliss is fucking horrible. She's a terrible actress, and her whole gimmick depends on her acting like a bitch. Someone told me she keeps improving. She still looks as awkward as she did months ago. Her facial expressions are ridiculous, but not in a wonderful William Regal/Vince McMahon sort of way.

Crowd died after the table spot.

The crowd booed and then the segment was over. Were they to say "this is awesome and bliss rocks?"

[KIRA]

So why does Baron Corbin hate Kalisto again I need to be reminded every time I see them.

[Mercenary]

Kalisto is so fucking fun to watch.

The coolest spot I ever seen live was when he did his finisher off the ladder at TLC in Boston. I was legit going HOLY SHIT!!!!!!!!!

[Mr. Nerfect]

JBL is awful on commentary. "Their matches have been classics!" "She might be the champion on Sunday!" "It will be legal Sunday!" Just Tom Phillips and Mauro, please.

[slik]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/justinmspeece">@justinmspeece</a> just don't make him angry. <a href="https://t.co/n9bMqKx1lb">pic.twitter.com/n9bMqKx1lb</a></p>&mdash; Ryan Franson (@TheRyanFranson) <a href="https://twitter.com/TheRyanFranson/status/803773157064712193">November 30, 2016</a></blockquote>
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[Mr. Nerfect]

The crowd booed and then the segment was over. Were they to say "this is awesome and bliss rocks?"

They didn't boo. You could hear a pin drop. They don't care about Bliss because she's paper thin.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Hfdy! Bayley is worse

Bayley is pretty bad, I'll give you that. Bayley can have good matches when rey are planned out for her though. Alexa had a good showing against Becky once.

[slik]

Bayley needs a way better finisher than a "Bayley to Belly" suplex IMO

[slik]

Give Becky the Tombstone Piledriver or w/e

[slik]

I meant Bayley, not Becky

[Droford]

American Alpha shouldn't talk

[Savio]

I like Majin Randy

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Harper: Why we still fighting Kane?

[Mercenary]

OH COMMON NOT KANE VS HARPER AGAIN!

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Boobmella.

[KIRA]

Orton grow your fucking beard in!

[ClockShot]

Carmella looks scary.

Overcooked in the tanning bed this time.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Orton seems to be having fun with The Wyatts. It's an intriguing angle. Good promo from Alpha too. They seem to have aims and objectives on SmackDown. RAW is storytime and talking for the sake of it.

[Savio]

So why does Baron Corbin hate Kalisto again I need to be reminded every time I see them.

Corbin's a Trump supporter.

[Mercenary]

Carmella looks scary.

Overcooked in the tanning bed this time.

Are we sure it's not Liv Morgan? They have the same gimmac

[Mr. Nerfect]

Wait, ya'll think Alpha shouldn't talk but Alexa is great? Please don't tell me this is the general consensus.

[Triple A]

going to kill myself @ seeing Subway "reuben" commercial for 350th time

[KIRA]

Carmella is gonna have to call herself Gristle if she keeps tanning

[slik]

quiznos is better than subway In My HUMBLE Opinion

[Mercenary]

Is Carmella feuding with Cena or Nikki?

[Mr. Nerfect]

Carmella is 10x better than Alexa Bliss on the mic.

[slik]

back breasts

[Emperor Smeat]

Don't think Cena is that worried about wanting to get married if the stuff he's done on Total Divas is any indication.

[Mercenary]

quiznos is better than subway In My HUMBLE Opinion

They had rats advertise their food I'm all set

[DAMN iNATOR]

Is Carmella feuding with Cena or Nikki?

If you're feuding with one, you're feuding with both.

[Emperor Smeat]

Nikki did a better spear than Reigns does most of the time.

[KIRA]

Its a sin Nikki Bella gets a push for her stupid feel good comeback story but the greatness of Alicia Fox goes un rewarded

[Evil Vito]

Otunga's arm tats are weird as fuck.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Its a sin Nikki Bella gets a push for her stupid feel good comeback story but the greatness of Alicia Fox goes un rewarded

the undefined Alicia fox.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Otunga's arm tats are weird as fuck.

Looks like they are spreading to the rest of his arm and will eventually take over.

[Emperor Smeat]

:lol: dramatical musical package for last week's Ellsworth victory.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Make it for the cruiserweight title....wait featherweight.

[Droford]

The other Stromsn robbers probably hate their lives right now

[Mr. Nerfect]

Nikki Bella is a weird babyface. She tried to show good fire, but she ended up just standing there with that weird "look at me try to be hot" gait.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

The other Stromsn robbers probably hate their lives right now

Yeah sucks to be them. Maybe they can join up together and attack Ellsworth when he gets his title shot.

[DAMN iNATOR]

quiznos is better than subway In My HUMBLE Opinion

This post makes me happy to see it. Subway just seems "effing disgusting" and I too prefer Quizno's.

@QuiznoSliksuke: What is your favorite Quizno's sub, on what kind of bread, cold or toasted, and what additional toppings if any?

I'm an Ultimate Turkey Club guy. Toasted with black olive and pickles on it on Rosemary Parmesan bread.

[slik]

This post makes me happy to see it. Subway just seems "effing disgusting" and I too prefer Quizno's.

@QuiznoSliksuke: What is your favorite Quizno's sub, on what kind of bread, cold or toasted, and what additional toppings if any?

I'm an Ultimate Turkey Club guy. Toasted with black olive and pickles on it on Rosemary Parmesan bread.

I usually get the Chicken Pesto Flatbread w:

Chicken
Pesto
Black Olives
Spinach
Onion
Green Pepper
Mushrooms

[ClockShot]

No new Mitch?

[Mercenary]

No Mitch jr?

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Oh Ells Yeah!

[Emperor Smeat]

:lol: JBL's insults towards Ellsworth

[DAMN iNATOR]

They had rats advertise their food I'm all set

Still not as awful (NEARLY) as the "$5 Footong" jingle ads.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

My Mitch Jr. is in the mail. They forgot my seeds for the first batch.

[Mercenary]

Oh wait they gave all of Mitch's seeds away in that shitty WWE Slam Crate

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Is Ellsworth missing teeth too?

[DAMN iNATOR]

I usually get the Chicken Pesto Flatbread w:

Chicken
Pesto
Black Olives
Spinach
Onion
Green Pepper
Mushrooms

Nice. I'm not into spinach at all but the rest sounds outstanding. 😁

[Mr. Nerfect]

Dean Ambrose is looking like a normal guy. How does him making fun of Ellsworth's boots when he wrestles in jeans.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Now and Laters!

[Mr. Nerfect]

Ellsworth fucking sucks on the mic.

[ClockShot]

Shane should come out and put a damper on this.

"Ellsworth doesn't get a contract, Dean interfered, etc."

[DAMN iNATOR]

Oh wait they gave all of Mitch's seeds away in that shitty WWE Slam Crate

How DARE you talk about poor Mitch the Plant's children that way, you MONSTER?!

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

This segment just got Phenomenal. It is now averaged out to just okay.

[Emperor Smeat]

So did they just completely drop all the stuff about Shane threatening punishment towards Ambrose for driving him extra crazy last week?

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Why did they drop heavyweight from the name?

[DAMN iNATOR]

Shane should come out and put a damper on this.

"Ellsworth doesn't get a contract, Dean interfered, etc."

Can't rescind the contract. I'm sure Ellsworth has signed it already. Just do a " Ellsworth is banned from ringside at TLC, and if he comes to ringside at TLC, he's fired" stip. Easy. That or take away his future title shot.

[Mr. Nerfect]

AJ Styles should be so far above this shit.

[Emperor Smeat]

http://i.imgur.com/ZmU5D8K.gif

[Evil Vito]

Fuckkkkkkk that Styles Clash was brutal

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Ellsworth is the perfect man to hit styles clash. No chin to tuck in.

[ClockShot]

Damn, did he clear the steps?

[Mercenary]

Ellsworth fucking sucks on the mic.

He sucks peroid. A joke that has ran it's course, and yes DO IT AGAIN AJ!!!!!!!!

[Emperor Smeat]

That pretty much should write out Ellsworth till the Rumble. Maybe show up a week or two before in order to get his title shot done and out of the way.

[Evil Vito]

I want a pic of Noid doing the Cornette face when Ellsworth gets a massive ovation as a surprise entrant in the Royal Rumble.

[DAMN iNATOR]

Why did they drop heavyweight from the name?

I think the brand split de-lineated it from the World Heavyweight Championship pre-TLC 2013.

[Triple A]

Did he hit his head on the stairs?

[rez]

At least Sting didn't have to run down and break no chin and ambrose off AJ.

[slik]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">&quot;<a href="https://twitter.com/AJStylesOrg">@AJStylesOrg</a> has just delivered the MOTHER OF ALL <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/StylesClashes?src=hash">#StylesClashes</a> to <a href="https://twitter.com/realellsworth">@RealEllsworth</a>!&quot; - <a href="https://twitter.com/mauroranallo">@MauroRanallo</a><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/SDLive?src=hash">#SDLive</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WWETLC?src=hash">#WWETLC</a> <a href="https://t.co/KKihIY7zO4">pic.twitter.com/KKihIY7zO4</a></p>&mdash; WWE (@WWE) <a href="https://twitter.com/WWE/status/803782449733865473">November 30, 2016</a></blockquote>
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[Emperor Smeat]

Did he hit his head on the stairs?

Looks like he just missed it and/or Ellsworth tucked it back in time to not get hit with the Papa Shango Curse.

[KIRA]

Ellsworth is dead

[Mercenary]

Luke Harper has lost more hair

[KIRA]

I don't like Harper having fancy new things like his new ratty jeans and vest

[DAMN iNATOR]

So Harper has this singles theme still but without the über-creepy dozens of eyeballs in his titantron? 😅

[KIRA]

Luke Harper has lost more hair

Reports say that is a dent in his head from a chairshot he took and he liked the way it looked so he kept it.

[Ruien]

So called Ellsworth being injured. He will make a suprise return at the RR now eliminating someone to setup a mini feud.

Will then probably form a tag team with someone like Kane after that.

[Ruien]

What is the main event tonight?

[Emperor Smeat]

Austin Aires might be a commentator for 205 Live after Smackdown ends since WWE is teasing something with him tonight.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">EXCLUSIVE: Why is <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/TheGreatestManWhoEverLived?src=hash">#TheGreatestManWhoEverLived</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/WWENXT">@WWENXT</a> Superstar <a href="https://twitter.com/AustinAries">@AustinAries</a>, at <a href="https://twitter.com/CLAmktg">@CLAmktg</a> before the premiere of <a href="https://twitter.com/WWE205Live">@WWE205Live</a> tonight? <a href="https://t.co/OHrdupYnbG">pic.twitter.com/OHrdupYnbG</a></p>&mdash; WWE (@WWE) <a href="https://twitter.com/WWE/status/803748389443629056">November 29, 2016</a></blockquote>
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[slik]

R.I.P. Ellsarambe

[DAMN iNATOR]

What is the main event tonight?

#1 Contender's for the SD! Tag Team Championships - Randy Orton/Wyatt and Bray Wyatt v. American Alpha.

[Triple A]

This match seems like it has been going on for like 20 mins

[slik]

I wonder what Koko the Gorilla is doing right now?

[Evil Vito]

Poor Harper. Probably getting the boot from the Family.

[Mercenary]

Ok just saw Otungas arm tats....wtf

[Emperor Smeat]

So is Kane going to be the one to dismantle the Wyatt Family?

Been feuding a lot with the Family the past couple of years.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

What is the main event tonight?

Thread title.

[Evil Vito]

Becky and Renee on screen together. *pause*

[Savio]

Stairs match please!

[Droford]

Austin Aries is gonna be on 205 live..?

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

No he's fucked.

[KIRA]

Bray was creepier when he dressed like an affable tourist

[Droford]

Orton shouldn't do his entrance pose..it looks stupid

[Evil Vito]

Crickets for American Alpha.

[slik]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The resemblance is uncanny. <a href="https://t.co/QLrMiC7kbp">pic.twitter.com/QLrMiC7kbp</a></p>&mdash; Mariah KerryVonErich (@JaimsVanDerBeek) <a href="https://twitter.com/JaimsVanDerBeek/status/803429319179530241">November 29, 2016</a></blockquote>
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[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Member when that other Myers was on That 70s Show?

[Droford]

I think the one guy in that Amazon commercial is in Red Oaks..it makes sense

Josh and Seth Myers..didn't know

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Crickets for American Alpha.

They been booked like shit forever.

[Droford]

No way AA wins right?

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Why they lose their good gear to this generic smackdown shit? Might as well be Funaki.

[Emperor Smeat]

Crickets for American Alpha.

Outside of the recent Usos heel push and the sudden announcement of Bray and Orton as a team, tag division has been pretty weak in terms of momentum and build the past few weeks.

Last week's Tag Team Turmoil was basically just a throwaway for an Usos-Alphas match.

[KIRA]

WTF happened to Rhyno

[Droford]

Rhyno looks like Chris Farleys bus driver character from Billy Madison

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Nothing compliments the spooky aura of <a href="https://twitter.com/WWEBrayWyatt">@WWEBrayWyatt</a>'s entrance like a giant Snickers logo <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/SDLive?src=hash">#SDLive</a></p>&mdash; WWE Creative Humor (@WWECreative_ish) <a href="https://twitter.com/WWECreative_ish/status/803789589961994240">November 30, 2016</a></blockquote>
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[Ruien]

Really love ever SD main event. Always seem important even when Ellsworth is involved.

[Ruien]

Hope Orton appears on Shooter tonight. Did he appear yet and I missed it?

[Droford]

James Ellsworth should join the Wyatts. A beard would hide his lack of a chin

[Ruien]

Really love when a female you haven't spoke with in like a month randomly text and wants to hang out. Then all I have to do is ask what do you want to do and she sas she wants to bang me. Friday is a go yey!

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Grand Fuckitude :mad:

[Emperor Smeat]

Harper would be a bigger threat with these sudden Wyatt DERP moments if the WWE didn't keep having him lose to Kane.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Wyatt might finally win a title.

[ClockShot]

:rofl: Rhyno & Slater providing background noise.

[Emperor Smeat]

Rhyno sort of looks like a slick haired version of the rambling farmer guy from The Waterboy.

[DAMN iNATOR]

Rhyno looks like Chris Farleys bus driver character from Billy Madison

Mutton chips remind me of those of Honky Toni Man. Obviously not the hair, though.

Also, I like the booking decision to push The "New" Wyatt Family. Now to see if Vince is actually willing to make them SD! Tag Team Champions...

[Emperor Smeat]

:y: Austin Aires part of the commentary team for 205 Live

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

AUSTIN ARIES!

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

The Greatest Announce Team that ever lived.

[Ruien]

Loved that Slater and Rhyno were cheering the fight. When someone said go get help they were like no!

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

So they job to Gulak and Tony Nese now. Very good.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Herp and Derp!

[Mr. Nerfect]

Luke Harper is an amazing man. Seriously, one of the best workers in the company.

[Vastardikai]

Luke Harper is an amazing man. Seriously, one of the best workers in the company.

I just hope the whole point of this angle is to split Harper on Wyatt.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Huh, I've not seen Mike Mizzan since he hosted Smackdown shows back in the day. He's improved a lot and is dynamite on Talking Smack.

[Lock Jaw]

Just watched this show. Was good.

As opposed to RAW where I ended up fast forwarding 90% of the show, I think the only thing I fast forwarded through on this show was the Luke Harper/Kane match.

DAMN @ that Styles Clash on Ellsworth...... R.I.P.

[Cool King]

• I can really see Alexa winning at TLC. The opening segment was good but I still believe that Lynch shouldn't be allowed near a mic, some of the stuff she was saying was just random and plain confusing/stupid.

Calling herself a honey badger was probably the worse one. What was that all about? But most of all, why? If she wanted to reference a strong and ruthless animal, she could have went with a lioness or a shark, but no, she went with a honey badger for whatever reason. Also, I really hope she doesn't make a habit of "pulling a Sheamus" and telling stories of her family. Instead of that, she could brush up on her insults. Calling Alexa "Puss in Boots" was just slightly cringe-worthy. How that's an insult, I'll never know.

Alexa on the other hand, was great.

Some of the insults she was coming away with were pretty ruthless and fantastically "heelish", especially the potato farm one. I actually pulled that "oooh" face and had a wee chuckle when she said it. What made it worse was that she also threw in a shot at her voice/accent too.

Also, Alexa is ambidextrous. I didn't know that. That makes both of us.

• I see that Otunga discovered tattoo parlors. That probably explains why he's been wearing a jacket at the table for a couple of weeks now. His tattoos probably weren't "ready" to be shown off yet.

• I think this is the first or second time I've heard American Alpha talk. Gable came across slightly heelish with the way he spoke to Dasha.

• Carmella seems more obsessed with Cena than Nikki. The promo was pretty bad but thankfully this will all end on Sunday.

• Ellsworth got his ass handed to him and I expect he'll be out for a good while and will probably return during the Royal Rumble match.

• American Alpha wearing better attire this week. They should just stick to solid colour designs. The match was good though but at this point, I feel like American Alpha will never be champions and that their soul purpose is to forever be that team that just loses out on a shot at the titles due to shenanigans from a heel tag team.

• Overall, SmackDown was good even though it felt slightly subdued/quieter than usual. Still, it's actually made me look forward to Sunday. It should be good.

[Cool King]

Its a sin Nikki Bella gets a push for her stupid feel good comeback story but the greatness of Alicia Fox goes un rewarded

I'm not too fussed about Nikki getting this push, but I do agree about Alicia Fox though. She should be involved in the women's division over on Raw and not be falling in love with Cedric Alexander.

[Cool King]

Why they lose their good gear to this generic smackdown shit? Might as well be Funaki.

Nah, this is much better.

Their previous attire looked stupid and made no sense. It made them look like cheap amateurs. What do cosmic and spacey-like designs have to do with American Alpha?

With them using solid colour designs, it makes them look much more professional and modern in my opinion.

[Cool King]

Also, anything that evokes memories of Funaki is always welcome.

[Cool King]

Alexa Bliss is fucking horrible. She's a terrible actress, and her whole gimmick depends on her acting like a bitch. Someone told me she keeps improving. She still looks as awkward as she did months ago. Her facial expressions are ridiculous, but not in a wonderful William Regal/Vince McMahon sort of way.

Crowd died after the table spot.

She's a heel, she's supposed to be a bitch. When women are being assholes, the majority of the time, they're being a bitch.

Her facial expressions are great and they make sense. Becky Lynch randomly called herself a honey badger. Bliss was spot on to pull the face she did.

If I was having a shouting match with someone I didn't like and they suddenly called themselves a honey badger, I'd pull the same face, and I'm pretty sure the majority of people would do too.

I doubt anyone would keep a straight face at that.

I wouldn't say the crowd died after the table spot. The face champion just started a fight with her rival and to everyone's surprise, she lost that fight. I would say the crowd were surprised but not dead.

If they were like me, I was expecting either Alexa to go through the table or nobody at all. I was a bit surprised too when Lynch went through the table.

They didn't boo. You could hear a pin drop. They don't care about Bliss because she's paper thin.

Actually, they were booing.

They were chanting "table" until Alexa began fighting back on the top rope. That's when the boos began.

Carmella is 10x better than Alexa Bliss on the mic.

Noid, I like you. You're a cool guy.

But are you fucking crazy?

Alexa is probably one of the best on the mic in both women's divisions. She's miles better than Carmella and also Sasha Banks and better than Bayley and Becky Lynch.

[Cool King]

Ellsworth fucking sucks on the mic.

Well obviously, he's straight from the indies.

I expect him to get better though, as the WWE will work their magic on him the more he hangs around.

[Big Vic]

Who are you to deny true love?

[Mr. Nerfect]

I love you Cool King, so please don't take this personally, but you and the forum are just wrong about Alexa Bliss. She is awful. She constantly looks like she is trying to remember lines, her facial expressions aren't great, they are poor actress mugging quality, without the same hilarious quality that a William Regal has. She's B+ high school drama. Those insults were bullshit quasi-xenophobic anti-Irish horse-shit too. Becky going into the scripted tirade about her little cousin was shitty stuff too, but if you want to compare that to Sheamus, Bliss' casual racism is up there.

The Disney stuff is weak too. Becky was like "you're obsessed with Disney" and then she went right back to life not being a fairy tale. Becky is only really good when she gets to go on her own tangents and hype herself up, because the writers can't invoke her voice with a script, but at least she has an organic voice.

The crowd was hot for the fight and then died when Becky went through the table. Watch again for yourself:

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That energy is gone. You hear some boos when she elbows Becky on top, but after the pop for the spot it's pretty darn quiet. Some very feint booing. Not enough to call the segment over.

Also, the honey badger thing, while I'm not a huge fan of it, is a reference to that viral video that went around about the honey badger. It's supposed to emphasize Becky's "quirky" nature. She loves the dorky videos on the internet of obscure bad-ass animals, you see. A lioness or whatever you suggested would play it too straight, because she's off-color and off-center see? I'm not sure if it was her idea or not, but it sounds like something one of the writers would have come up with it.

[Mr. Nerfect]

You're right about Alpha's gear too. It was designed to remind people of the Steiner Brothers, and it worked for a moment, but they need to have their own look and style. The American themed stuff brings back memories of Team Angle, but it suits the "American Alpha" theme. They'll probably get red and white ones and eventually some personalized ones with logos and such.

[Mr. Nerfect]

God, going over that promo between Bliss and Becky. That arm swish and one mocking tone Bliss has. She's a long way from ready. So get ready for her token Women's Title reign this Sunday!

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Nah, this is much better.

Their previous attire looked stupid and made no sense. It made them look like cheap amateurs. What do cosmic and spacey-like designs have to do with American Alpha?

With them using solid colour designs, it makes them look much more professional and modern in my opinion.

It was an ode to old gear the Steiner Brothers would wear. Now they are generic af and are being booked as such.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Nah, the switch is good. These are dudes that are supposed to be proud to wear American singlets. It's all cool and it does make them look slicker. They do look...very binary. I've never minded that look, but I expect the look to get toggled and improved upon.

[Lock Jaw]

Think American Alpha's gear was just "too plain".........


As for Becky/Alexa..... I enjoy both. I won't let a cuppa haters sway me from this.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Just ranking the women on SmackDown, via promo ability, you probably have to put Nikki Bella at the top, Carmella next, then Becky, Alexa, Natalya and Naomi -- in that order. In terms of ring skill, it'd go Natalya, Becky, Nikki, Naomi and then either Alexa or Carmella. I don't see where this "Alexa is so great" thing comes from objectively. Do people really think she is better than even Naomi or Nikki? Do people really rank her as an honest-to-god promo?

It's because she's hot and dresses like Harley Quinn. That's it. She doesn't even have a good gait, unless she's posing for a photo in a backstage segment. She has a "bitch walk" where she rolls her eyes at the crowd as she walks past, but when she stands in the ring she looks like a normal person and tiny for that matter, too. Nikki Bella's "look at me" stance is weird after she's just tried to sell being furious at Carmella, but at least she doesn't mouse away. Carmella at least has that New York swagger thing, which I find annoying, but at least makes her stand out.

I dunno, the Alexa love just REALLY weirds me out, because as soon as you stack her up against the other women on her own show, she's got to be objectively be bottom-half. She's charismatic and good looking, I'll give her that, so I could give her higher priority over, say, Naomi and Carmella -- but that's about it. Being the magazine cover girl should only be able to get you so far in the current environment. Oh, and I haven't even considered Eva Marie in there. Her heat alone puts her probably higher than Bliss, even though the ring work probably brings her back down. But let's put her behind Bliss for the lack of ring work.

Alexa Bliss is still 4/7. She's not even top half on SmackDown. You then want to compare her to Charlotte, Sasha, Bayley, Alicia Fox, Emma and Nia Jax. If Paige mends her ways with the WWE, she is also much better in-ring and generally has a better presence (when she's presented right). Summer Rae is probably comparable in the ring and does a similar bitch thing -- people forget that she was better in NXT than Bliss was in NXT. Lana is also a better talker and has better poise, although I'm not sure how her charisma will translate to the ring. There's also Maryse who could be paid to get back into the ring at any moment and could do bitch better than Alexa.

Bliss is FINE. She's already got more overall value than a lot of girls who have been around for years (I'm looking at Naomi and probably Summer Rae and Alicia Fox at this point, sadly). She will get better and better, and her hard work will eventually turn her into a great three-dimensional character. But how can anyone objectively say she deserves one of two champion spots, or even in the best five women in the company when she barely makes the best five on SmackDown? She should talk shit then get punched in the mouth for the pop. She can work longer on house shows and use her hotness to get over a heel team. Dress her up as a cop and put her with Fandango & Breeze. Dress her in tattered rags and put her with The Wyatt Family. I GUARANTEE it will be more over than her wrestling at this point in her extremely short career and still very young life. This is like pushing a worse at talking 2000 Trish Stratus to the Women's Title, instead of post-Finlay Trish Stratus. It's insanity, because once Bliss gets exposed at a top level and it becomes obvious to people, her stock will drop. If you love her so much, let her learn and grow.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Think American Alpha's gear was just "too plain".........


As for Becky/Alexa..... I enjoy both. I won't let a cuppa haters sway me from this.

Can see what you mean by the attire. I like the direction it is heading, but it was very...plain.

I'm looking forward to the match, since Bliss' only good one-on-one opponent has been Becky, and they will bust ass, because you can't say about either that they don't try. I'm just worried about the booking.

[Cool King]

I love you Cool King, so please don't take this personally, but you and the forum are just wrong about Alexa Bliss. She is awful. She constantly looks like she is trying to remember lines, her facial expressions aren't great, they are poor actress mugging quality, without the same hilarious quality that a William Regal has. She's B+ high school drama. Those insults were bullshit quasi-xenophobic anti-Irish horse-shit too. Becky going into the scripted tirade about her little cousin was shitty stuff too, but if you want to compare that to Sheamus, Bliss' casual racism is up there.

The Disney stuff is weak too. Becky was like "you're obsessed with Disney" and then she went right back to life not being a fairy tale. Becky is only really good when she gets to go on her own tangents and hype herself up, because the writers can't invoke her voice with a script, but at least she has an organic voice.

The crowd was hot for the fight and then died when Becky went through the table. Watch again for yourself:

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That energy is gone. You hear some boos when she elbows Becky on top, but after the pop for the spot it's pretty darn quiet. Some very feint booing. Not enough to call the segment over.

Also, the honey badger thing, while I'm not a huge fan of it, is a reference to that viral video that went around about the honey badger. It's supposed to emphasize Becky's "quirky" nature. She loves the dorky videos on the internet of obscure bad-ass animals, you see. A lioness or whatever you suggested would play it too straight, because she's off-color and off-center see? I'm not sure if it was her idea or not, but it sounds like something one of the writers would have come up with it.

I wouldn't say I'm wrong. I would say that our opinions are just polar opposites when it comes to Alexa Bliss, which is strange as I've always felt that we've always had the same or similar views, opinions and ideas on pretty much everything else in the past, but for some reason, Alexa Bliss is what divides us.

I really don't get where you're getting this idea that she's awful from. In the past, you've made it sound like she's the worst female ever to step foot in the ring with some of your tirades and it just leaves me confused. I wouldn't really say she's the best the WWE has right now, not at all, but I certainly wouldn't say she's awful or the worst.

I would say she's the best when it comes to development on the main roster. She's been a part of the main roster for around five months now and she's developed so much since then. Her promos are better, as is her in-ring work and character portrayal. If you watch her first appearance on SmackDown after the draft, she was very generic and just your average "pretty blonde" girl who spoke like a porn star. I even mentioned it in that SmackDown thread that I wasn't a fan of her and that she just reminded me of a porn star. I didn't like her.

Her first match wasn't that great either. She was quite "wooden" with her execution of some moves and how she ran the ropes. She reminded me of Kelly Kelly and what she was like in the ring.

If you watch her now, for example, the Women's Championship match in Glasgow, you can see a big change in all what I mentioned before. She's more confident in the ring and in portraying her character and her execution of her moves flows smoother and looks more professional. Her mic work has since gotten much better too. She doesn't sound like a generic blonde or porn star anymore for one thing. I would say that it's all down to three things:

• Her continued training
• Her dedication
• Her work with Becky Lynch

The latter being a major factor in her development. Becky Lynch is good. She's really good, but I just feel her mic work lets her down, but if Alexa was working with anyone else, I feel she wouldn't have developed as fast and as well as she has.

Speaking of mic skills, I really wouldn't add Alexa's "quasi-xenophobic anti-Irish horse-shit" up there with Sheamus though, as Sheamus' casual racism was when he was a face. There was no need for it and it worked against him as a face. Alexa is a bitch and mentioning a potato farm to an Irish woman is such a bitch move that it worked well. It added some good ol' fashioned realism to this feud, along with Becky calling Alexa a bitch, with a big part being how she delivered the line.

As for the video, the segment is over a few seconds after Becky went through the table. She went through the table, much to the surprise of the crowd, who booed Alexa, then with Alexa sitting on the top rope smiling over a fallen Becky Lynch, a replay is shown then Alexa's music hits. The segment ended with boos and rightfully so as Becky got put through a table.

As for the honey badger thing, I get the reference but it's just so old now that it's somewhat cringe-worthy. The reference is going back all the way to 2011. A five year old internet reference is just awkward, as is anything from the internet that's referenced years after it hit it's "peak". It's like Curt Hawkins and his Chuck Norris Facts, in a way. That's cringe-worthy, but it works because he's a dork and a slightly comedic heel. If he was a face, it just wouldn't work because it's such an old reference and he would just come across as trying too hard to be "cool", if you know what I mean. That's kind of what I got from Becky.

Becky Lynch has never stuck me as being "quirky" if I'm honest, so maybe that's why I'm not a fan of the honey badger line, but if this is the beginning of her "quirkyness" growing, then cool, I guess.

Just ranking the women on SmackDown, via promo ability, you probably have to put Nikki Bella at the top, Carmella next, then Becky, Alexa, Natalya and Naomi -- in that order. In terms of ring skill, it'd go Natalya, Becky, Nikki, Naomi and then either Alexa or Carmella. I don't see where this "Alexa is so great" thing comes from objectively. Do people really think she is better than even Naomi or Nikki? Do people really rank her as an honest-to-god promo?

It's because she's hot and dresses like Harley Quinn. That's it. She doesn't even have a good gait, unless she's posing for a photo in a backstage segment. She has a "bitch walk" where she rolls her eyes at the crowd as she walks past, but when she stands in the ring she looks like a normal person and tiny for that matter, too. Nikki Bella's "look at me" stance is weird after she's just tried to sell being furious at Carmella, but at least she doesn't mouse away. Carmella at least has that New York swagger thing, which I find annoying, but at least makes her stand out.

I dunno, the Alexa love just REALLY weirds me out, because as soon as you stack her up against the other women on her own show, she's got to be objectively be bottom-half. She's charismatic and good looking, I'll give her that, so I could give her higher priority over, say, Naomi and Carmella -- but that's about it. Being the magazine cover girl should only be able to get you so far in the current environment. Oh, and I haven't even considered Eva Marie in there. Her heat alone puts her probably higher than Bliss, even though the ring work probably brings her back down. But let's put her behind Bliss for the lack of ring work.

Alexa Bliss is still 4/7. She's not even top half on SmackDown. You then want to compare her to Charlotte, Sasha, Bayley, Alicia Fox, Emma and Nia Jax. If Paige mends her ways with the WWE, she is also much better in-ring and generally has a better presence (when she's presented right). Summer Rae is probably comparable in the ring and does a similar bitch thing -- people forget that she was better in NXT than Bliss was in NXT. Lana is also a better talker and has better poise, although I'm not sure how her charisma will translate to the ring. There's also Maryse who could be paid to get back into the ring at any moment and could do bitch better than Alexa.

Bliss is FINE. She's already got more overall value than a lot of girls who have been around for years (I'm looking at Naomi and probably Summer Rae and Alicia Fox at this point, sadly). She will get better and better, and her hard work will eventually turn her into a great three-dimensional character. But how can anyone objectively say she deserves one of two champion spots, or even in the best five women in the company when she barely makes the best five on SmackDown? She should talk shit then get punched in the mouth for the pop. She can work longer on house shows and use her hotness to get over a heel team. Dress her up as a cop and put her with Fandango & Breeze. Dress her in tattered rags and put her with The Wyatt Family. I GUARANTEE it will be more over than her wrestling at this point in her extremely short career and still very young life. This is like pushing a worse at talking 2000 Trish Stratus to the Women's Title, instead of post-Finlay Trish Stratus. It's insanity, because once Bliss gets exposed at a top level and it becomes obvious to people, her stock will drop. If you love her so much, let her learn and grow.

If we're talking about ranking the SmackDown women, then when it comes to promo ability, I'd probably put Alex near the top.

• Nikki
• Natalya
• Alexa
• Becky
• Naomi
• Carmella
• Eva

As for ring skills:

• Natalya
• Becky
• Nikki
• Alexa
• Naomi
• Carmella
• Eva

I wouldn't say I like her because "she's hot and dresses like Harley Quinn", because I don't. Harley Quinn does nothing for me, because I don't like Batman, his universe, DC Comics or any comics really. I'm not a comic fan at all. The closest I get to comics are Scottish comics and they are nothing like the Marvel and DC Comics.

In fact, her dressing like Harley Quinn would have most likely put me off of her if I didn't like her so much. I like Alexa Bliss because she's interesting and she's different. She's this tiny evil bitch who only cares about getting her hands on the title. When you look at the other women, they're somewhat generic when you put them against Alexa. They've either got a boob job and always want to look beautiful (Nikki & Eva) or their gimmick has them being too concerned about being "cool" (Naomi, Carmella, Nikki and to an extent, Becky), whereas with Alexa, you've got this tiny heartless woman who just wants to be champion. She doesn't care about her tits or looking glamorous or "cool". She just goes out to the ring, wearing proper ring attire and tries to win matches.

I like that. I think it's both entertaining and interesting. I would say her appearance makes up around 20%-30% of why I like her. She's an attractive woman, anyone can see that, but I wouldn't say that and her dressing like Harley Quinn is why I like her.

Comparing her to the Raw women, I'd say she still makes the top half. I would say she's better that the majority of them. I'd only put Charlotte and Alicia Fox above her. Nia Jax and Dana Brooke are two other girls I like so I'd probable put Alexa level with them but under Charlotte and Alicia Fox.

I would say she deserves the championship as it would be the next step of her development. Just compare her to the other woman who started on the main roster the same time as her, Carmella.

In my opinion, Carmella is shockingly bad in the ring. I remember one of her matches where she placed her foot on the top turnbuckle and instead of ramming her opponent's head into her foot, as you do, she rammed the head into the middle turnbuckle, where there was no foot. I also remember her failing to jump a barricade. These are all very basic and easy things to do but she failed at them. She's also very stiff and "wooden" when she's in the ring and her promo ability is reminiscent of an indy heel who's only just gotten into the business. She's not really developed at all. She's just remained terrible.

Whereas, Alexa on the other hand started off bad. She was very much like Kelly Kelly (as I mentioned before), but now, you can notice the difference between "New to SmackDown Alexa" and "#1 Contender Alexa". When compared to Carmella, she's rocketed way out in front since both joined the main roster. I feel it's right for her to become champion, as it'll keep this good feud she has with Becky going but also, it'll be a new journey for her that will provide new challenges and allow her to develop even more, both as a wrestler and for the character.

Also, you're suggesting that Alexa Bliss should dress up as a cop? Are you wanting the Internet to melt? The vast majority of male wrestling fans will explode if they see Alexa Bliss dressed as a cop. That would probably be a dream come true for those men and also those young lads that are just discovering that certain women can make their penis' go hard.

But seriously, I don't think aligning her with a team would work, especially The Wyatt Family. She's too attractive to be with The Wyatt's. I think she's good where she is and is decently over as a heel. It's funny that you mention Trish Stratus, because I too think of Trish Stratus when I see Alexa. Don't get me wrong though, I don't mean that in a way where I think she's at Trish's level, because she's nowhere near that and has a long long long way to go to get to that point, but it's how fast she's developed that reminds me of Trish.

I know I keep mentioning Alexa's development but it's like Trish's. I remember one day Trish was bad, then all of a sudden, she was better and she just kept quickly getting better and better. It may not be at the same speed as Trish, but I see similar things when I see Alexa.

Anyway, to end this massive novel of a post, all I can really say is that Alexa isn't as bad as you make her out to be, but I'm sure you would say that she's not as good as I make her out to be. I really think that if Alexa wins the title on Sunday, you'll see a brand new Alexa Bliss over the following weeks, and hopefully, it'll be one you'll like, even if it is a little bit.

[Cool King]

Damn, that post took me over an hour to type up.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Sorry to make you write so much, man, haha. Yeah, I find we do agree on most things, but we just aren't on the same page with Bliss. That negative assessment you made when you first saw her is where I still stand on her. Kelly Kelly is a perfect comparison, only Bliss is nowhere near as annoying with her voice.

I think our objective summaries are about the same, except I prefer how organic Becky can come off on the mic, so I'd rank her above Alexa. I haven't been watching as much as I usually would lately, so maybe this week isn't a fair indicator, but Carmella's promo on SmackDown was much better than Bliss', in my opinion. I haven't seen them in the ring recently, but Carmella was also better last time I saw them. Maybe that's changed? I think we both agree that Alexa is middle-of-the-road though, which is why it's just annoying you can't objectively respond to her without being called out for it. It's extremely weird to me.

I'll watch her and Becky's match at TLC. I enjoyed the last match I saw of them. I've since seen Bliss take a dropkick and stand for about a second longer than she should before throwing herself down. She works best when her matches have been planned out like fuck though, and she is a trooper, so I imagine she'll go through a table like a boss on Sunday. I think she'll win the match, but it'll be some sort of screwy finish where she goes through first, but the ref doesn't see it, and then Becky goes through or something.

I would rather Becky be more serious, by the way -- I don't like the forced "look how adorable I am" shit, but that's just where I think it's coming from. I'd rather she just beat bitches in seconds with the Armbar.

I'm curious to know what Scottish comics are like, haha.

[Cool King]

I'm curious to know what Scottish comics are like, haha.

I tried to find images to show as example but they all suck.

We've got "The Broons", which is basically about a big family and most of the stories involve the generation gaps between the family members and also misunderstandings which lead to humorous results. We've also got "Oor Wullie", which is about a boy who generally just gets up to mischief.

Both of them are pretty old comics and are in the Scots language (hence the names) and because of that, they only really tend to be popular in Scotland, and they're also very rarely printed in colour.

Other comics are "The Beano" and "The Dandy", which unlike "The Broons" & "Oor Wullie" are popular all over the UK and they feature a variety of characters and their own comic strips. They too are pretty old comics and all four comics were created in my hometown, which probably explains why I like them over American comics, as I grew up reading them and not Marvel & DC comics.

Also, the publisher of those comics also publishes the WWE Kids Magazine, so that's kinda cool I guess.

[Ruien]

I like Bliss because she is hot.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I like Bliss because she is hot.

At least you're honest, Ruien.

[Mr. Nerfect]

She most definitely is hot.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CTFdovAUkAAlP7u.jpg

[Anybody Thrilla]

Fuck yourself, Alienoid06. Alexa Bliss is money.

[Anybody Thrilla]

Also, she only said it because "the honey badger doesn't give a fuck".

[Mr. Nerfect]

No one in WWE is money besides Goldberg, Lesnar and Cena.

[Cool King]

Shane is the money though.

[Cool King]

:shifty:

[Evil Vito]

I would love to engage in sexual intercourse with Alexa Bliss.