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RP
02-20-2017, 10:27 PM
I dunno, Sasha's sexy attitude is incredibly sexy and i love it.

Emperor Smeat
02-20-2017, 10:28 PM
That might be the slowest run-in ever by Dana.

RP
02-20-2017, 10:28 PM
Much deserved clean win for Sasha. She's been jobbing hard the last month. Great win!

Emperor Smeat
02-20-2017, 10:29 PM
http://i.imgur.com/OmzgD.gif

Really great pick for the Hall's class this year.

RP
02-20-2017, 10:29 PM
DDP is literally one of my favorites of all time

DAMN iNATOR
02-20-2017, 10:31 PM
There are things about Sasha i normally dont like in general, but for some reason, Sasha pulls it off. Like her Purple hair for instance.

I mean, whatever works for you. "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder", or whatever. She's cute, IMHO, but...I dunno...I don't hair the hair, but it is a little strange, even in a company with girls with bright "strawberry red" hair and orange hair and dyed tips...beauty is definitely very subjective.

RP
02-20-2017, 10:31 PM
I think DDP can still come back and wrestle. I wish he would.

Lock Jaw
02-20-2017, 10:31 PM
Wish they could use DDP's WCW "Teen Spirit" knock-off theme........

Outsider
02-20-2017, 10:32 PM
Wish they could use DDP's WCW "Teen Spirit" knock-off theme........

Yeah one of my favourite themes of all time. Worked well.

Savio
02-20-2017, 10:32 PM
It'd be funny if Natalya just blind sided Sami for no reason.

DAMN iNATOR
02-20-2017, 10:33 PM
DDP is literally one of my favorites of all time

I was so upset when he got injured on that SD! match in April, 2002. I think it was the week before Orton's debut in WWE. Then Confidential did that piece on him where he said his insurance wouldn't cover him anymore if he kept wrestling and I was like 💔.

RP
02-20-2017, 10:33 PM
When DDP turned on the NWO.. literally one of my favorite moments in wrestling.

Outsider
02-20-2017, 10:38 PM
First match I ever watched was a DDP match at a friends sleepover (I was a kid dammit) who was into wrestling. It was Nitro and apparently the Halloween Havoc feed from the night before had cut out so they reshowed the main event from the PPV on Nitro.

Started watching wrestling more often then.

And now I'm a man in his 30s who watches half naked men pretend to fight. Sigh.

DAMN iNATOR
02-20-2017, 10:39 PM
Unfortunate the WWE didn't use him better. His feud with Christian over the European Championship was probably his best stuff and even that was pretty MEH. He deserved a bigger push.

I recall seeing somewhere that he only agreed to do the big toothy smile because he thought they'd edit in special effects like in toothpaste ads and make little "sparkling" effects happen when he did. I enjoyed the one backstage segment where Christian mocked his smile and then a couple of kids told Christian he looked ugly....LOL, good times

Dark One
02-20-2017, 10:40 PM
http://37.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mdygkwgC6o1rk5wnbo2_400.gif

Lock Jaw
02-20-2017, 10:40 PM
Triple H's Fat Boys

RP
02-20-2017, 10:40 PM
LOL Sammy Zayne is always getting beat up. It's hilarious.

DAMN iNATOR
02-20-2017, 10:40 PM
Oh, shit, it's Mr. "Bad Porn Music", Samoa Joe!

And he just stole Husky Harris's old finisher.

Emperor Smeat
02-20-2017, 10:42 PM
Nice of Joe to remind Sami that he forgot to put respect in his name.

KIRA
02-20-2017, 10:42 PM
Anybody feuding with Joe should just stop at the bottom of the ramp and wait

Outsider
02-20-2017, 10:42 PM
"This is a different Kevin Owens"

Good.

Dark One
02-20-2017, 10:42 PM
Oh, shit, it's Mr. "Bad Porn Music", Samoa Joe!

And he just stole Husky Harris's old finisher.

http://i.imgur.com/9QQLYmd.gif

DAMN iNATOR
02-20-2017, 10:42 PM
RIP Sami.

Emperor Smeat
02-20-2017, 10:43 PM
http://i.imgur.com/ZmU5D8K.gif

DAMN iNATOR
02-20-2017, 10:44 PM
http://i.imgur.com/9QQLYmd.gif

Keep that up and you'll not only win Meanest Poster in the Spammies but also Worst Animated GIF.

RP
02-20-2017, 10:44 PM
Ya i bet Goldberg got that message.

Lock Jaw
02-20-2017, 10:44 PM
BORK

DAMN iNATOR
02-20-2017, 10:45 PM
Show's down to 383 these days?!

Kudos to him for getting into better shape. 👍

Mercenary
02-20-2017, 10:49 PM
So a former champ doesn't get a montage, but a shitty comedy act does

Mercenary
02-20-2017, 10:49 PM
Keep that up and you'll not only win Meanest Poster in the Spammies but also Worst Animated GIF.

http://i.imgur.com/9QQLYmd.gif

Savio
02-20-2017, 10:50 PM
ooo Mick Foley is yelling again.

RP
02-20-2017, 10:50 PM
Well Seth not being a WM is confirmed. Cool

Lock Jaw
02-20-2017, 10:50 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C2_oHl5WIAAIluI?format=jpg&name=medium

Dark One
02-20-2017, 10:51 PM
Foley protecting his balls from The Great Emasculator

DAMN iNATOR
02-20-2017, 10:51 PM
Mick hopping in the time machine back to 2004, and also using "screaming dad" voice.

DAMN iNATOR
02-20-2017, 10:52 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C2_oHl5WIAAIluI?format=jpg&name=medium

Show transferred his belly fat. It is now beard fat.

Emperor Smeat
02-20-2017, 10:52 PM
Why doesn't Steph just flat out fire Foley if she hates him that much.

Lock Jaw
02-20-2017, 10:53 PM
Feel like Brock Lesnar is talking at me with his mind

Dark One
02-20-2017, 10:54 PM
Feel like Brock Lesnar is talking at me with his mind

https://uproxx.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/blood-and-urine-and-vomit.gif?w=650

Emperor Smeat
02-20-2017, 10:55 PM
http://i.imgur.com/qJA8l7u.gif

Lock Jaw
02-20-2017, 10:55 PM
BRRRRRAAAAAUUUUUUNNNNNNNN

A.J.K
02-20-2017, 10:55 PM
Ring Snap?

slik
02-20-2017, 11:01 PM
I don't think Seth is missing WM...seems like a 'bait and switch'

;)

Lock Jaw
02-20-2017, 11:02 PM
I hope they don't get their beards tangled

RP
02-20-2017, 11:02 PM
I don't think Seth is missing WM...seems like a 'bait and switch'

;)

nah i think he's out.

Lock Jaw
02-20-2017, 11:02 PM
STROWMAN KIP UP

WHAT AM I SEEING

RP
02-20-2017, 11:02 PM
wow Stroman showing some shit.. jezus.

Dark One
02-20-2017, 11:03 PM
You guys thought I was fucking joking when I kept mentioning the Strowman kip-up for the past few months.

SUCK IT NERDS.

RP
02-20-2017, 11:03 PM
If Strowman can do that shit, then game over.

Dark One
02-20-2017, 11:03 PM
BRAUN STROWMAN IS A GOD AMONG MEN.

Dark One
02-20-2017, 11:04 PM
If Strowman can do that shit, then game over.

You're goddamn right.

Universal Champion for ten years straight. Break Bruno's record.

KIRA
02-20-2017, 11:04 PM
Slow LUCHA ESCAPE BY STROMAN 10/10 this match

No sarcasm that made my night

RP
02-20-2017, 11:05 PM
He just pulled the DDT out. Damn Braun!

Dark One
02-20-2017, 11:05 PM
Braun for Cruiserweight Champ

RP
02-20-2017, 11:07 PM
No way Show jobs like this. Something is happening.

KIRA
02-20-2017, 11:08 PM
To be fair Big Show could do moonsaults back in the day

A.J.K
02-20-2017, 11:09 PM
To be fair Big Show could do moonsaults back in the day

And Missle Dropkicks.

RP
02-20-2017, 11:09 PM
Show whipping out the flying tackle!

Lock Jaw
02-20-2017, 11:10 PM
Seem like they have been talking too much about reinforcing the ring for it NOT to collapse

Savio
02-20-2017, 11:10 PM
Don't do this again.

GD
02-20-2017, 11:10 PM
The ring's gonna break.

A.J.K
02-20-2017, 11:10 PM
Honestly this isn't a half bad match for what it's worth.

RP
02-20-2017, 11:10 PM
This is actually a great match.

Triple A
02-20-2017, 11:11 PM
Feels like every crowd has been good for like the past 1-2 months

Emperor Smeat
02-20-2017, 11:11 PM
Nice of Braun to bust out his own Flying Nothing move.

KIRA
02-20-2017, 11:12 PM
I just keep thinking I was gonna skip this

Triple A
02-20-2017, 11:12 PM
moonsault baby

Emperor Smeat
02-20-2017, 11:13 PM
Even being slimmed down, Big Show is still too fat for Braun to handle.

Evil Vito
02-20-2017, 11:13 PM
This is a really fun match.

Dark One
02-20-2017, 11:13 PM
Braun is a god among men. It will be a seven star match.

GD
02-20-2017, 11:13 PM
That was an impressive power slam.

Mercenary
02-20-2017, 11:14 PM
That ended it? http://i.imgur.com/9QQLYmd.gif

Triple A
02-20-2017, 11:14 PM
cool

KIRA
02-20-2017, 11:14 PM
I mean I'm speechless lads

Lock Jaw
02-20-2017, 11:14 PM
Can't believe they are just going to job Braun to Roman in two weeks.......

RP
02-20-2017, 11:14 PM
Great match turns into Strowman squash turns into Roman Reigns shit show.

GD
02-20-2017, 11:14 PM
Would be interesting if Roman Reigns joined Hunter's new stable with Kevin Owens and Samoa Joe.

KIRA
02-20-2017, 11:14 PM
haha SHIT

Emperor Smeat
02-20-2017, 11:15 PM
http://i.imgur.com/qlYjuBX.gif

Lock Jaw
02-20-2017, 11:15 PM
Braun 4 Champ

Lock Jaw
02-20-2017, 11:15 PM
Braun 4 Prez

A.J.K
02-20-2017, 11:15 PM
That actually was a good match.

Evil Vito
02-20-2017, 11:15 PM
Braun Strowman is a god damn physical specimen.

Dark One
02-20-2017, 11:15 PM
BRAUN STROWMAN IS A GOD AMONG MEN.

GD
02-20-2017, 11:15 PM
Can't believe they are just going to job Braun to Roman in two weeks.......

I don't think that is going to happen. Braun is super hot at the moment and Reigns is nowhere close.

Dark One
02-20-2017, 11:16 PM
I would like to welcome aboard the rest of the forum to the BRAAAAUUUUNNNN TRAAAAAINN

Price of admission is one "You were right, Dark One."

Emperor Smeat
02-20-2017, 11:17 PM
Strowman-Show was pretty good overall. A lot more entertaining than the usual WWE hoss type fight.

Lock Jaw
02-20-2017, 11:17 PM
I would like to welcome aboard the rest of the forum to the BRAAAAUUUUNNNN GGGGOOOOLLLLLFFF CAAAARRRRTTT

Sepholio
02-20-2017, 11:17 PM
I think Reigns may have hurt his elbow when Strowman drop kicked him. Unless he was just selling the shit out of his arm being hurt better than Ive seen anyone do in years.

Jordan
02-20-2017, 11:18 PM
Wow, that was so good. I tuned in for the last three segments. Braun is the star we've been waiting for. Braun is just a freak of nature. That match was fantastic.

Sepholio
02-20-2017, 11:20 PM
That kip-up though.....like......Braun might be the most physically gifted human being ever. EVER.

Jordan
02-20-2017, 11:20 PM
Also I'm pretty sure Braun was calling the match which impresses me even more.

slik
02-20-2017, 11:23 PM
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Jordan
02-20-2017, 11:26 PM
He's my favorite wrestler... just that guy right now when his music hits I start getting focused on whatever is about to happen because it's generally fucking awesome.

slik
02-20-2017, 11:30 PM
Vince finally gets unconditional smark support for a mastodon... And he's gonna get fed to Roman...

slik
02-20-2017, 11:34 PM
I would like to welcome aboard the rest of the forum to the BRAAAAUUUUNNNN TRAAAAAINN

Price of admission is one "You were right, Dark One."

I've been on that train for a few months already, but I guess I'll make room for more to hop on...just don't knock over my popcorn anyone

Dark One
02-20-2017, 11:50 PM
lol Rock:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">.<a href="https://twitter.com/TheRock">@TheRock</a> leaves <a href="https://twitter.com/CMPunk">@CMPunk</a> a voicemail! <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WWE?src=hash">#WWE</a> <a href="https://t.co/twHtDFqC5z">pic.twitter.com/twHtDFqC5z</a></p>&mdash; NoDQ.com - WWE News (@nodqdotcom) <a href="https://twitter.com/nodqdotcom/status/833895026442670082">February 21, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Dark One
02-21-2017, 12:08 AM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I'm walking Larry. It's his birthday.</p>&mdash; Coach (@CMPunk) <a href="https://twitter.com/CMPunk/status/833899434815668224">February 21, 2017</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Thanks Los Angeles. Nice to hear from you. <a href="https://twitter.com/STAPLESCenter">@STAPLESCenter</a></p>&mdash; Coach (@CMPunk) <a href="https://twitter.com/CMPunk/status/833905165145145344">February 21, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Dark One
02-21-2017, 12:10 AM
Come on slik, get your shit together. Front page this shit. What is Triple A paying you two cents an hour for?

Emperor Smeat
02-21-2017, 12:24 AM
lol Rock:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">.<a href="https://twitter.com/TheRock">@TheRock</a> leaves <a href="https://twitter.com/CMPunk">@CMPunk</a> a voicemail! <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WWE?src=hash">#WWE</a> <a href="https://t.co/twHtDFqC5z">pic.twitter.com/twHtDFqC5z</a></p>&mdash; NoDQ.com - WWE News (@nodqdotcom) <a href="https://twitter.com/nodqdotcom/status/833895026442670082">February 21, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Whole post-RAW segment from the Rock: https://www.periscope.tv/w/1yNxaPMoBBNJj

:lol: at Rock wanting some boos and cheers for filming reasons. After getting the boos, "Yeah, good. Just like when Roman Reigns is out here."

Lock Jaw
02-21-2017, 01:25 AM
Pics of AJ Lee vs Paige after the show:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C5KZoMJUYAAWHAn.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C5Ka6ilUYAEkO4s.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C5KcB_jVMAAFR4C.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C5KanbuUkAA9Y5m.jpg

Lock Jaw
02-21-2017, 01:31 AM
Pic of Charly Caruso:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C5J7gJ6XUAAUxhh.jpg

GD
02-21-2017, 01:55 AM
I was a fan of her wardrobe tonight.

Damian Rey 2.0
02-21-2017, 02:11 AM
She's a pretty lady

Black Widow
02-21-2017, 02:13 AM
Not a damn thing Vince can do about it lol

Jordan
02-21-2017, 02:16 AM
Weird how the movie version of Paige is nowhere near as a hot as the real girl.

Damian Rey 2.0
02-21-2017, 02:24 AM
I dunno man. She's pretty hot

ClockShot
02-21-2017, 07:29 AM
I missed Braun vs. Show. Judging from the comments, it's something to see.

But I guess my prediction of the ring imploding didn't come true?

Mercenary
02-21-2017, 07:45 AM
I dunno man. She's pretty hot

She is not as pale. That's the problem

Droford
02-21-2017, 07:54 AM
I missed Braun vs. Show. Judging from the comments, it's something to see.

But I guess my prediction of the ring imploding didn't come true?

Be thankful Foley had the ring reinforced..I mean its not like the ring has ever held more than 800 lbs before.

Mercenary
02-21-2017, 08:03 AM
Be thankful Foley had the ring reinforced..I mean its not like the ring has ever held more than 800 lbs before.

So that ECW Monster Mash battle royal? All guys were cusierweights at the time? :P

Gerard
02-21-2017, 08:40 AM
And Missle Dropkicks.

And kip ups, though assisted by the rope, wonder if strowman could do it without assistance.

Dark One
02-21-2017, 10:09 AM
http://i.imgur.com/AXJSgp9.jpg

Jordan
02-21-2017, 10:19 AM
I'm not really buying the Brock Lesnar character, that interview did nothing for me other than make me roll my eyes.

Gerard
02-21-2017, 10:22 AM
I'm not really buying the Brock Lesnar character, that interview did nothing for me other than make me roll my eyes.

He was working hard looking constipated :shifty:

Jordan
02-21-2017, 10:23 AM
Honestly he has the worst german suplex ever.

#1-norm-fan
02-21-2017, 10:39 AM
Vince finally gets unconditional smark support for a mastodon... And he's gonna get fed to Roman...

Ryback.

Outsider
02-21-2017, 11:33 AM
For all my earlier snide remarks, Strowman surprised and impressed me.

Hardly a classic, but for two big guys going at it that wasn't half bad at all.

Ol Dirty Dastard
02-21-2017, 11:35 AM
If they just take time to choreograph those hoss matches I think they can all be fun.

Gerard
02-21-2017, 01:29 PM
If they just take time to choreograph those hoss matches I think they can all be fun.

Vince seems to think so, he had to be surgically removed from Gorilla position last night.

http://i.imgur.com/bmnxAUE.jpg

DAMN iNATOR
02-21-2017, 01:54 PM
I'm honestly quite grateful they didn't try to re-create the ring implosion from Lesnar v. Show for the old WWE Championship on SD! c.2003. It was a great moment that doesn't need to be recreated, and I'll never forget Tazz shouting "HOLY SHIT! WHAT THE HELL?" in one of the rare calls where he actually perfectly captured the emotion of a big moment.

Gerard
02-21-2017, 02:06 PM
I'm honestly quite grateful they didn't try to re-create the ring implosion from Lesnar v. Show for the old WWE Championship on SD! c.2003. It was a great moment that doesn't need to be recreated, and I'll never forget Tazz shouting "HOLY SHIT! WHAT THE HELL?" in one of the rare calls where he actually perfectly captured the emotion of a big moment.

Already was recreated with show and Henry which not many seem to remember!

Jordan
02-21-2017, 02:35 PM
Exactly ^^^

Emperor Smeat
02-21-2017, 03:24 PM
Pic of Charly Caruso:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C5J7gJ6XUAAUxhh.jpg

Wonder if Lana sent a copy of New Day's plans for Ice Cream to Charlotte before getting her own tablet destroyed.

Cool King
02-21-2017, 04:50 PM
• The opening vignette was really good.

• I think that was the first time I've heard everyone boo Owens. There was not a single cheer and all it took was Chris Jericho.

Also, Owens needs to start going to a tailor for his suits. The length of his trousers were "crazy short" as the kids say.

• Scrappy-Doo getting his head kicked off was delicious. He really should stick to mic work though as he's still quite bad in the ring.

• After seeing how bad the Tag Team Champions have been looking recently, I'm sure they'll drop the titles at Fastlane.

• I just knew they were going down the "Russian Hackers" route when I saw Lana and Kofi with tablets.

• I skipped the contract signing due to not having any interest in both men whatsoever.

• Nia Jax finally showing interest in the Women's Championship might actually make the division on Raw interesting.

• I skipped most of Bayley's promo until Stephanie came out. Bayley is quite bad on the mic and a bit boring too. She's actually not as bad on the mic as Sasha is though, who is slightly worse.

Sasha should really stay away from microphones, as she and also Bayley sound like little girls who are reading their essays.

• I also skipped Sasha vs Charlotte #4316 along with Zayn vs Owens #3312.

• The main event was fun. I didn't expect anything fantastic but it was just fun.

• Overall Raw was it's usual self.

Ol Dirty Dastard
02-21-2017, 04:52 PM
Sasha should really stay away from microphones, as she and also Bayley sound like little girls who are reading their essays.



Throw Stephanie and Nia Jaxx into that pile

Ol Dirty Dastard
02-21-2017, 04:54 PM
Stephanie is in fact the prime offender. There is nothing authentic about her on the mic.

Cool King
02-21-2017, 04:58 PM
I agree with Nia Jax but I'm not really focusing too much on her mic skills at the moment as she's only been wrestling for around two years, whereas Bayley has been going for nine year and Sasha for seven and both have been champions.

With wrestling as long as they have, you'd expect them to be a bit decent on the mic by now.

Nia still has the potential to get better over time.

SlickyTrickyDamon
02-21-2017, 05:11 PM
How do they show randon fans in crowd but don't show Bayleys dad? Ffs

Ol Dirty Dastard
02-21-2017, 05:21 PM
With wrestling as long as they have, you'd expect them to be a bit decent on the mic by now.



Steph's been doing it since before those 2 were in training bras and she still stinks.

Emperor Smeat
02-21-2017, 06:21 PM
I agree with Nia Jax but I'm not really focusing too much on her mic skills at the moment as she's only been wrestling for around two years, whereas Bayley has been going for nine year and Sasha for seven and both have been champions.

With wrestling as long as they have, you'd expect them to be a bit decent on the mic by now.

Nia still has the potential to get better over time.

I'd assume its a mix of how badly both Sasha and Bayley have been neutered compared to their NXT time and the big gap between WWE and indies styles when it comes to promos. They have years worth of in-ring work but doubt their promo work was ever the same level for development.

Also simply something which only improves with a lot of tv time like with Charlotte in regards to the Women's division.

Ultra Mantis
02-21-2017, 06:34 PM
They have much longer to learn their lines in NXT and get more rehearsal time with producers / agents. Doubt much time or effort is spent on writing promos for Bayley / Sasha / 90% of the main roster.

Steph, on the other hand, likely gets a lot of production on her stuff and she is still the worst character on the show.

Anybody Thrilla
02-22-2017, 02:38 AM
I had Raw on with sound at the bar I work at, and everyone was freaking out (in a good way) during Big Show/Strowman. That was the shit. I thought this whole Raw was very good, and some of you may enjoy it more if you didn't take it so seriously.

Mr. Nerfect
02-22-2017, 03:17 AM
I'm curious to see Show vs. Strowman. I'm glad Kevin Owens is actually going for heat now.

Ol Dirty Dastard
02-22-2017, 06:35 AM
I thought this whole Raw was very good, and some of you may enjoy it more if you didn't take it so seriously.

Says the guy who gets butt hurt because wrestlers lose to other wrestlers in forum polls

Most people on here seemed to enjoy it, but I guess you're just better at enjoying it than them.

Evil Vito
02-22-2017, 08:45 AM
Stephanie McMahon strikes me as completely disinterested in the product and has for a few years now. I'm really not sure she even WANTS to be an on-screen character at this point, she's just there because Vince thinks a McMahon always has to be around.

Ol Dirty Dastard
02-22-2017, 10:24 AM
Steph has never been that great tbh. I mean obviously she's had her moments... bound to happen when you have literally a zillion hours of screen time but her overall body of work is terrible. Her on screen character (vs whatever the hell she does behind the scenes which could be amazing for all I know) has done more to hurt the product than help.

Big Vic
02-22-2017, 12:54 PM
She was involved in the 2 worst storylines of this decade

Big Show vs The Authority
Nikki Bella vs Brie Bella

Big Vic
02-22-2017, 12:57 PM
But she got to pin a WWE superstar must have made her daughters proud that she earned a W when she was writing the book.

Mr. Nerfect
02-22-2017, 01:27 PM
For people who say that she is good on the mic: When was the last time she got anybody over? She also marks a drop in creative. She took over the head writer position in November 2000. Who knows how long Chris Kreski would have had his mind in the business, or when exactly his health became a personal issue for him, but Stephanie running creative seems to be a major factor in the WWF's downward trend.

Ruien
02-22-2017, 01:29 PM
Rollins looked damn good the last promo he had with Steph.

Mr. Nerfect
02-22-2017, 01:48 PM
Is that the one where he threatened Triple H's kids? I'm willing to see it, but it sounds fucking terrible.

Mr. Nerfect
02-22-2017, 01:52 PM
Vince McMahon would always show ass -- as the expression goes. When you go back to the Attitude era and re-watch, that is something that really stands out. We think of Vince as this giant egomaniac, but he took that ego and put it into how great he was going to make every segment he was in. The character did get overbearing and too much at times, but go back and watch him take that spill off the apron at Judgment Day 2000. Watch him get sent to the back like a disciplined dog by Triple H.

Stephanie McMahon is basically impervious to criticism from babyfaces or heels. Not even the women who could, in theory, beat her up, bow their heads when she tells them off. Is it building to something? It's been going on since 2013 now without anyone getting any measure of comeuppance over her. And before you say that if it ever does happen that the payoff will be good, keep in mind that fewer and fewer people are watching because they just do not care.

Mr. Nerfect
02-22-2017, 01:53 PM
I can't remember the last Stephanie promo that *mattered*. The last one people made a big deal out of was her response to Shane, but even that was a shit-show designed to bury Shane and talk about what an ambassador for women she is and how he hates them. Way to babyface him, Steph.

Ruien
02-22-2017, 01:59 PM
Is that the one where he threatened Triple H's kids? I'm willing to see it, but it sounds fucking terrible.

Watch it.

Big Vic
02-22-2017, 02:39 PM
It wasn't amazing tbh

The only time Steph "got what was coming to her" post 2013 was when vickie pushed her in the pudding and then disapearred the next week. Other than that she emasculates people for no reason. the biggest example of this is when she did it to Lana/Rusev; while in the same promo (or promo before) she was begging them for help.

Lock Jaw
02-22-2017, 02:49 PM
Daniel Bryan or Roman Reigns hit her at Wrestlemania I think......... that was a sort of comeuppance.....

And there was that one week where The Authority had to disband after Survivor Series..... that was a sort of comeuppance.......

Ol Dirty Dastard
02-22-2017, 02:56 PM
I wouldn't mind her "emasculating" everyone if she was actually a good promo. But she really isn't.

Big Vic
02-22-2017, 02:58 PM
I would, if you are writing the book you shouldn't be on screen if it is hindering the product, her being infallible is a hindrance.

Lock Jaw
02-22-2017, 03:01 PM
Would be alright if someone "pushed back" (doesn't need to physical, can be verbal), but most of the time when Steph gets all worked up and slaps someone they just stand there in disbelief and smile like "I can't believe she just did that", which isn't really a good way of "standing up to her" and using the crowd's hate for her to garner support for yourself.......

Big Vic
02-22-2017, 03:28 PM
I do like how Sasha is pushing back, but I feel if they have a match it will be booked exactly like "Brie vs Steph" was.

Ol Dirty Dastard
02-22-2017, 03:33 PM
I would, if you are writing the book you shouldn't be on screen if it is hindering the product, her being infallible is a hindrance.

The Rock buried people all the time. He was great. So was Hogan and he loved that shovel of his.


Steph is not great, as much as she'd like to think she is. She is serviceable, "competent" maybe at best. If her promos were actually good and not an utter load of bollocks it wouldn't matter about her comeuppance because she'd at the VERY LEAST be entertaining. Instead of me just changing the channel and capping out on my 20 minutes bi weekly of RAW.

Big Vic
02-22-2017, 03:42 PM
Rock and Hogan we never bookers. And the times when Hogan did influence the book were bad.

Ol Dirty Dastard
02-22-2017, 04:33 PM
booking is irrelevant in my argument.

If she can book herself at the top and can be a top performer and be magnetic and win over audiences, this is not a conversation.

This is about how she performs. Whether she has constant diarrhea, a stutter, suddenly becomes moot OR lets her booking get in the way, it doesn't matter.... the bottom line is her performances stink.

I'm not saying you are wrong, but we aren't really talking about the same thing.

Mr. Nerfect
02-22-2017, 08:03 PM
Yeah, Steph sucks. I'd rather see her off TV and maybe appearing in magazines showing how fit she is.

Anybody Thrilla
02-22-2017, 08:43 PM
Says the guy who gets butt hurt because wrestlers lose to other wrestlers in forum polls

Most people on here seemed to enjoy it, but I guess you're just better at enjoying it than them.

What the fuck are you talking about? I said SOME of you. Calm down.

Shadrick
02-22-2017, 09:07 PM
The Rock buried people all the time. He was great. So was Hogan and he loved that shovel of his.


Steph is not great, as much as she'd like to think she is. She is serviceable, "competent" maybe at best. If her promos were actually good and not an utter load of bollocks it wouldn't matter about her comeuppance because she'd at the VERY LEAST be entertaining. Instead of me just changing the channel and capping out on my 20 minutes bi weekly of RAW.

Rock outdueling people on the mic (even if he's calling out actually deficiencies in someone elses promo abilities) is nowhere near the same as Hogan politicking to go over everyone.

Ol Dirty Dastard
02-22-2017, 09:22 PM
What the fuck are you talking about? I said SOME of you. Calm down.

lol I don't care guyyyyyyy

But like realistically calling people out for "taking it too seriously" is dumb. They are posting about it on a wrestling forum, they clearly are devoted wrestling fans. If you post here, particularly IN the wrestling forum, you likely take wrestling somewhat seriously. I'm sure people's written responses will seem more serious than how they actually feel.

Hot tip. Cool it on the Rick Martel "arrogance". The fragrance does not smell good on you.

BigCrippyZ
02-22-2017, 11:58 PM
Yeah, Steph sucks. I'd rather see her off TV and maybe appearing in magazines showing how fit she is.

Personally, I'd rather see her off TV and appearing instead, on my dick. :lol: :naughty:

SlickyTrickyDamon
02-23-2017, 12:38 AM
Pic of Charly Caruso:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C5J7gJ6XUAAUxhh.jpg

Holy shit

Anybody Thrilla
02-23-2017, 04:44 AM
lol I don't care guyyyyyyy

But like realistically calling people out for "taking it too seriously" is dumb. They are posting about it on a wrestling forum, they clearly are devoted wrestling fans. If you post here, particularly IN the wrestling forum, you likely take wrestling somewhat seriously. I'm sure people's written responses will seem more serious than how they actually feel.

Hot tip. Cool it on the Rick Martel "arrogance". The fragrance does not smell good on you.

I'm not going for anyone's neck here. I was saying that I was airing the show to a crowd who TRULY doesn't care, and they were into it. Which is a good sign for what WWE is doing.

I didn't quote any posts. I didn't say any names. I was just thinking out loud. Don't act like there aren't some people here who seem to hate everything that happens, because there clearly are. What's arrogant about anything there?