Punisher

[Swiss Ultimate]

I want this so bad.

Don't talk about the show. Just console me for a bit. Compliments welcome.

[Lock Jaw]

Feel like Daredevil season 2 was maybe the first time I enjoyed Punisher..... I like the whole "brain damage" angle they added to him.....

I will check out his series, but think he might be best as a supporting character/loose cannon and not as the focus of an entire series......

[Swiss Ultimate]

I enjoyed the ultraviolence. Punisher's acting was a cut above too, so that helped.

[Swiss Ultimate]

I hated the movie and never read the comics.

[Lock Jaw]

Never saw the movies..... read some comics......

Just always thought/wondered why the heroes never threw his ass in jail and kept him there. Seemed like a villain that should be stopped quickly.

The "Max" series was better, as it was in a world without superheroes, but even then I just keep thinking "this guy should prob be in jail"

[Swiss Ultimate]

Oh definitely. The only way Punisher works is if corruption is nearly total and the mafia is running around like ISIS murdering people in the streets.

[Swiss Ultimate]

All vigilantes obsessed with non-lethal takedowns, but handing out broken necks and concussions like candy make me smile.

The Batman games were fun, but I pretty much assumed most of those people I knocked out were dying from brain bleeding.

[Destor]

Which book was it that kingpin was raped in? Whatever that was was the best punisher story...may have been Max

[Swiss Ultimate]

Holy fuck.

[Tom Guycott]

I hated the movie and never read the comics.

Which movie?

[Swiss Ultimate]

I never saw the straight to video one. The Dolph one sucked as did the one with Kevin Nash.

[Swiss Ultimate]

I actually own the ultraviolence one with Jigsaw. Filmed like a horror film.

[Sixx]

I never saw the straight to video one. The Dolph one sucked as did the one with Kevin Nash.

Which straight to video one?

The Dolph one was the first one. There is no straight to video Punisher movie, unless we're talking cartoons.

[alvarado52]

He may be talking about Warzone? Im assuming so anyway since he clearly mentions Dolph and Jane's Punishers (by my count there's only three Punisher films, unless im forgettings something).

[Sixx]

He may be talking about Warzone? Im assuming so anyway since he clearly mentions Dolph and Jane's Punishers (by my count there's only three Punisher films, unless im forgettings something).

It wasn't straight to video.

[Destor]

It wasn't straight to video.Swiss is mistaking but he's reffering to Warzone as "straight to dvd"

[Sixx]

Oh.

I know most people say it was shit, but I really enjoyed it. It was super violent and had badass Ray Stevenson and not pretty boy Thomas Jane.

[Sixx]

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Come on, you can't tell me this isn't art.

[Destor]

I liked it.

[Rammsteinmad]

Punisher: War Zone is an awesome movie! People watch a film titled "The Punisher" and expect The Shawshank Redemption. It's incredibly violent, brutal, and gritty, and Ray Stevenson was brilliant as Frank Castle. Just switch your brain off for a couple of hours and revel in senseless violence.

[Fignuts]

Yeah, warzone was great. The most comic accurate version thus far, though I love the Daredevil version too.

I thought the Thomas Jane version was a great revenge movie, but they totally missed the mark in their portrayal of the punisher. He's supposed to be psychologically unhinged, and emotionally detatched. Not sad and mopey.

[Sixx]

Yeah, I liked the Jane version as well, it just didn't feel like a Punisher movie.

Also, his backstory was ridiculous. Instead of his wife and kids dying, the bad guys wiped out like 40 Castle family members. And that skull t-shirt he got from his kid...

[Rammsteinmad]

I do think the Daredevil version of Punisher was by far the best portrayal though, but that's due to having plenty more than two hours to develop the character.

[Emperor Smeat]

Yeah, warzone was great. The most comic accurate version thus far, though I love the Daredevil version too.

I thought the Thomas Jane version was a great revenge movie, but they totally missed the mark in their portrayal of the punisher. He's supposed to be psychologically unhinged, and emotionally detatched. Not sad and mopey.

Yeah out of the 3 films, liked Warzone the most since it fit the character the best.

The Jane version was somewhat decent as an origins type story but agree about the transition to the actual Punisher character not being great.

Been a long time since seeing the Lundgren version but think it also did a better job with the actual character itself.

[Swiss Ultimate]

So Warzone had a theatrical release?

[Emperor Smeat]

Yeah but it was really bad in terms of box office revenues.

Box office

On its opening weekend, Punisher: War Zone grossed $4,271,451 in 2,508 theaters in the United States averaging $1,703 and ranking #8 at the box office. The film grossed $8,050,977 domestically, making Punisher: War Zone the lowest-grossing film based on a Marvel Comics property, below Elektra and Howard the Duck. It also grossed $2,049,059 internationally, bringing it to $10,100,036 worldwide, making it a box office bomb comparing to its $35 million budget.

Add another $10 million in DVD sales and it only made a little over $20 million in the US.

[Swiss Ultimate]

Wow. Being deployed takes you out of the loop.

[Bobholly138]

So Warzone had a theatrical release?

Yep I saw it opening night. Had to drive a bit over an hour to find a theater playing it. Damn great film. Made up for the abortion that was the THomas Jane Punisher.

[Swiss Ultimate]

He was too nice.

Hated his neighbors so much. Hated the popsicle scene too.

[Sixx]

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[Juan]

Nice

[Swiss Ultimate]

November.

[Swiss Ultimate]

I NEED THIS IN MY LIFE.

NINJAS DON'T DO IT FOR ME ANYMORE.

[slik]

Looks good!


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[Swiss Ultimate]

SO FUCKING GOOD. NO NINJAS ANYWHERE.

[Kalyx triaD]

That's a hot trailer. Hope he gets a hallway fight/oner fight scene.

[El Vaquero de Infierno]

Punisher and Metallica = I'm sold!

[Swiss Ultimate]

HE IS SO DAMAGED.

[Blonde Moment]

One and half million views already

[JimmyMess]

that may have been one of the best trailers I've ever seen, movie or tv.

[Swiss Ultimate]

I'M HOPING FOR OCTOBER RELEASE, ALTHOUGH I THINK IT MIGHT BE NOVEMBER.

[Rammsteinmad]

Fucking brilliant trailer, and syncing the onscreen action to 'One' was really creative and well done. Can't wait for this!

[Swiss Ultimate]

I WANT THIS NOW... RIGHT NOW.

[Lock Jaw]

I hope Punisher isn't straight up presented as a hero in this

[Swiss Ultimate]

DOESN'T LOOK LIKE IT.

[KIRA]

Am I the only one that enjoyed the Tomas Jane Punisher?
The fight with Nash is one of my favorite fights ever.
And his killing Saint is sooo satisfying.

[Emperor Smeat]

His buildup to becoming the Punisher was great but he didn't really feel like the character afterwards.

Ray Stevenson was a better Punisher in terms of the actual character.

[Kalyx triaD]

Jane-Punisher was a better film overall, tho. Technically speaking.

What Jon-Punisher does it take the complexities of Frank Castle and have in a technically sound production that's not merely gratuitous in presenting the violence of Punisher's side of the Marvel universe. There's even a pinch of Dolph-Punisher there with the 'man who doesn't die' mythological angle.

[Swiss Ultimate]

THIS PUNISHER IS A MAN POSSESSED BY A FORCE OF FUCKING NATURE. HE'S SO RUTHLESS AND UNRELENTING, BUT AT HE SAME TIME BELIEVABLE AS A HUMAN BEING WHO JUST GOT HIS LIFE UTTERLY BROKEN AND IS JUST TRYING TO MAKE IT GO AWAY.

[Sixx]

I liked the Jane version as an action movie. I really don't buy it as a Punisher film. And the beginning was stupid as fuck, they killed like 40 Castle family members. His backstory is supposed to be dark, this was just ridiculous.

[Kalyx triaD]

I'd call watching your whole family die at a reunion fairly dark.

[RP]

I want lots of blood and lots of bullets

[Swiss Ultimate]

YOUR WISH IS GRANTED.

I SAW THE JANE PUNISHER ON DVD AT THE END OF BOOT CAMP. MY MOM HAD JUST DIED AND I REMEMBER THINKING IT WAS JUST SUPER WEAK. NO EDGE TO IT AT ALL.

IT WAS ENTERTAINING ENOUGH.

[Swiss Ultimate]

I'm tired of waiting.

[Kalyx triaD]

NYCC panel was canceled in response to the shooting. Wonder if others will follow. Also probably means the footage was gonna be wicked.

[Swiss Ultimate]

Punisher ultraviolence is going to be on par with Daredevil season 2.

[RP]

NYCC panel was canceled in response to the shooting. Wonder if others will follow. Also probably means the footage was gonna be wicked.

That is just dumb. Just enabling future shooters. SOOOOOOOOOOoo Dumb

[El Vaquero de Infierno]

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November 17th, you bastards!!!

[RP]

That might be the greatest thing to ever happen on Netflix.

[Swiss Ultimate]

I am weeping openly now. So happy.

[Swiss Ultimate]

Should have been Halloween.

[Sixx]

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Looks really weird here. Very weird posture.

[RP]

Sixx is such a hater.

[Swiss Ultimate]

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Looks really weird here. Very weird posture.

He looks a little chubby there, like a baby.

Baby Punisher would be awesome.

[RP]

I just think he skipped shoulder day to be honest.

[Kalyx triaD]

He's wearing a vest.

[Swiss Ultimate]

Reviews are coming in.

I'm pissed I'm not a reviewer right now.

[Kalyx triaD]

THIS MAN GIVES ZERO FUCKS

[Sixx]

Wait, this comes out tonight?

[Kalyx triaD]

It's out now.

[Sixx]

Oh, awesome. Didn't know shows on netflix are out that early in the morning.

[Kalyx triaD]

Technically last night.

[Destor]

Notice that Swiss is not online. THAT MAN IS BINGING :lol:

[slik]

I'm looking forward to watching this later

[Sixx]

Downloading now.

[Lock Jaw]

Watched the first episode. Enjoyed it.

[Sixx]

IMMENSELY!?

[Helmsphere]

Going to try to watch this when I can. Sadly a life issue came up. Girlfriend got knocked up and decided to terminate it. Not sure if this will be the best thing to lift my spirits

[Sixx]

You know when you put it this way it sounds like she got knocked up by someone else. :)

I knocked up my gf would be the safer way to put it.

[Helmsphere]

You know when you put it this way it sounds like she got knocked up by someone else. :)

I knocked up my gf would be the safer way to put it.

Yeah totally worded that wrong. Was just kinda in shock to be honest, never have ever had a scare in my entire lifetime, then it just happened. I mean I just told her it was her choice and I feel she made the right choice. But I dunno, it keeps me up at night.

[Destor]

I doubt frank castle shoots any babies. I think youll be safe.

[Sixx]

I actually googled Bernthal shirtless. Cause I was just "whoah, how jacked he got for this"

[Sixx]

Good thing I'm single now, cause that could probably worry a bitch.

[Destor]

Ep 101 was very good

[Sixx]

Battle in ep. 3 is amazing.

[Sixx]

Anyone noticed Madani's desktop? Chuckled at this.

[RP]

I'm just 1 ep in. It was good. Not great, but good.

[Kalyx triaD]

>>> Eps 11.

[Destor]

110 was world class story telling

[Destor]

Finished it....so fucking good

[Kalyx triaD]

He needs to be in Defenders 2.

[Destor]

Nah put him in heros for hire 1. His interaction with DD is played out

[Sixx]

Why the hell would he be in Heroes for Hire?

[Lock Jaw]

Still only 3 episodes in, but keep him the F away from other heroes. He works so much better when he is off in his own corner. When he is with other heroes it is always just "why aren't they arresting this guy"

[Sixx]

Remember when in Civil War he joined Team Cap, saw two villains in the team and murdered them on the spot? That was glorious.

[Sixx]

About the show: NOT ENOUGH SKULL ON HIS CHEST!

I mean, I know it makes sense in the real world not to prance around with a huge skull on your chest when you're like public enemy number one, but still. I love that skull. :(

[Destor]

Why the hell would he be in Heroes for Hire?

Well He Is A Former Member

[Sixx]

Yeh, well, of a completely different team using the name. Wouldn't make sense to just throw him in the with Luke Cage and Iron Fist getting paid to do shit.

[Destor]

Still better than rehashing the DD conflict

[Destor]

He'd be best ised asa guest star like kingpin in DD S2

[Sixx]

Nah, just gimme season 2 already.

[Sixx]

DD2 - I was just waiting for him to show up. All the other stuff was cool for me, but he stole the show in my opinion.

[Swiss Ultimate]

I'm savoring this...

[RP]

ok starting episode 2.

[RP]

I'm on episode 6 atm.. brb with a halfway review.

[RP]

So i'm 6 eps through. So far i like it a lot. Not love it. Just like it a lot. I think the story telling has been great, assuming it will culminate the way I think it will. The show has given us small samples of Frank going ape shit. Like EP 3 when he stormed the compound by himself. I love the writing with Frank and his " partners " wife and kids. I'm not expecting him to fuck his partners wife. I feel like he's trying to be the dad they've been missing for sure.

I think after 6 EP's, its obvious this shit is getting to a boiling point where Frank goes fucking ape shit.

Also, the cop chick ?? ( who is hot as fuck, love those fuck scenes. Very well done ). Is she Morenna Baccarin's sister? I cant tell for sure. Seemed like a similar last name, but i cant remember. Fuck me those parents much be sitting there thinking " Damn! We fucked good on the night we had them ! ".

[RP]

This show is so well written.

[Ruien]

Finished it. Really enjoyed it. So much pain that went around geez.

[Swiss Ultimate]

That was the greatest.

[Lock Jaw]

Just finished the 6th episode..... 4-6 not as good as 1-3, but show still good overall.....

[Sixx]

Overall great. Already said this before, but before DD S2 I though that casting wasn't good. I mean, love Benrthal but he just didn't seem to fit the role in my opinion. Glad I was super wrong.

[Swiss Ultimate]

I heard some pundits complain that this show was anti-military. I...don't see it? There were certainly some political moments in the show, but fuck if the art didn't make up for them.

[Sixx]

Huh? Anti-military? You mean the illegal covert operations? That's fucking common knowledge.

[Destor]

Its only asnti military if you think talking about PTSD is ant military

[Kalyx triaD]

Yeah Punisher was the most patriot the MCU got since First Avenger.

[Swiss Ultimate]

Its only asnti military if you think talking about PTSD is ant military

Yeah. Maybe that's it.

[Rammsteinmad]

Eight episodes in. Loving it so far!

[Lock Jaw]

Finally just finished this up. Loved it....

Was really glad it wasn't just Punisher blasting criminals and common crooks, and instead a personal vendetta against a government conspiracy.

Really loved the dichotomy and relationship between Frank and Micro. One man who lot his family, and the other whose family are still alive but he can't be with them..... (Both Frank and Micro's wives were v hot brauds)

Got worried like halfway through the season because I started thinking "There's only two ways for this to end in a satisfactory way..... Frank dies from wounds taking everybody down, or he stops himself from killing everybody and brings them to actual justice"......

But thought the way they ended it was very good.....

Never liked Punisher as a character in the comics, but I loved the way he was presented in this series......

[Swiss Ultimate]

I'm kind of done with the rest of the universe. The Punisher works much better in a world without magic ninjas.

[KIRA]

Aww man the ending was brutal and great

[Tom Guycott]

I like that he isn't exactly a lunatic beyond saving. He's at the edge, but still aware enough that he needs help. Don't even just mean mental help, but actual confidence and trust in people even when doing exactly that is pretty much always beyond his "better" judgment.

My only gripe about the series as a whole is just how goddamn lucky he is. There have been so many times Frank's been saved not by his own instincts or training, but because someone is a shitty shot or the right person happened to show up or happen to do something that works in his favor.

It would be one thing if he were a mutant with probability manipulation, but if he were, he'd be on the X-Men side of things and this show wouldn't exist.

[Emperor Smeat]

Trailer and some photos were recently released for Season 2. Debuts on January 18th.

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[Sixx]

Wet for this.

Blonde girl is pretty cute.

Only beef I have with it is Russo's face isn't nearly as scarred as it should be. But I guess they're going a different route. He's so obsessed with his looks that those few scars make him ashamed of his face and he wears a mask.

[Lock Jaw]

I can see this running into a Jessica Jones type situation..... where the first season was so great and so personal, and the second is meh......

[Emperor Smeat]

I can see this running into a Jessica Jones type situation..... where the first season was so great and so personal, and the second is meh......

Based on some early reveals, that might be the case at least with this season's story. Supposedly the story is weaker than Season 1 but the action is closer in tone to the Punisher MAX comics.

[El Vaquero de Infierno]

Rewatching the first season at the mo, so everything is fresh for the new one.

[Rammsteinmad]

Can't wait to see this! Punisher's one of my all-time favourite characters!

Currently halfway through Runaways Season 2 and two more episodes of The Gifted, then I'll watch this.

[RP]

This motherfucker Billy with scars and shit, looks better than me... wtf......................

[RP]

This bitch just shot her own officer and no one gives a shit......... #MeToo

[RP]

I wonder if this new girl they cast for Punisher, had to agree to lick John Bernthal's butt. I bet Bernthal was in the casting room giving her looks like " Yah, you're gonna lick my butt ".

[El Vaquero de Infierno]

I'm 2 episodes into the new season, and I feel Castle should shoot the blonde chick; irritating as fuck.

[Kalyx triaD]

Good season. Funny how everyone is stuck just dealing with how crazy Castle is.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Just finished it. Intense. It's not the same personal story as season 1, and they shoehorn Karen in in a way that's completely meaningless. Also, the John Pilgrim character is interesting enough, but he is kinda stifled in a season that's packed with all kinds of storylines.

They could've left the Russo stuff out and saved it for season 3. Or not. I dunno. I wasn't as in to the Billy stuff as I was with Castle being kind of a drifter and being drawn back into due to wanting to save the girl. That was a far better storyline for me. Though I did like the Russo stuff, the girl and her thread in the show was more intriguing for me.

The fight sequences in this season are fucking brutal. There's one in a rat hole gym that's just a fucking car wreck, and i loved it. Also, as good as most of the cast in these Netflix shows has been, Bernthal is easily my fave, even more than Cox as Murdock/Daredevil. I love his character and I hopewe somehow get a 3rd season out of this.

[Kalyx triaD]

lol These shows are dead. After JJ season 3 that's a wrap.

[Black Widow]

I wonder if this new girl they cast for Punisher, had to agree to lick John Bernthal's butt. I bet Bernthal was in the casting room giving her looks like " Yah, you're gonna lick my butt ".And It's clear you think about the same thing as 7th graders would should get together with R Kelly.

[RP]

And It's clear you think about the same thing as 7th graders would should get together with R Kelly.

Guys like there butts licked too. What's wrong with you?

[El Vaquero de Infierno]

Finished the second season. I don't think it was as good as the first one, but still enjoyable. I would definitely like to see some more seasons, though that is unlikely.

[Sixx]

Those things with Castle getting with the ladies... That was just terrible. Hs bed scenes in episode 1 were so cringeworthy.

[Kalyx triaD]

I don't think Punisher is romance heavy.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

It really shouldn't be. I agree that the early stuff was kinda whatever. I get why they went that direction but meh. It did lead us to that awesomebathroom fight scene so that was cool.

[El Vaquero de Infierno]

Frank Castle needs some lovin' too, yo.

[Sixx]

NECKBEARD CASTLE HERE - HERE I COME

[Sixx]

What is this Leon bullshit going on here?

Fuck her at least.

[RP]

Those things with Castle getting with the ladies... That was just terrible. Hs bed scenes in episode 1 were so cringeworthy.

lol

The best was in like episode 6 or 7 he's talking to Carl in the car and telling him that she was special and she was the one and all this shit. I was like " Dude you just took a bar hoe home and fucked her for one night.. what the fuck? ".

[Helmsphere]

Castle knows the best way to fire a gun, is to unload it from time to time. Can't take on baddies with a clogged up barrel

[Sixx]

Mixed feelings this season.

Seriously has a Leon The Professional vibe.

And the way they went with Jigsaw... weak.

[Black Widow]

Agent Madani is annoying

Billy's therapist was lame

Other than that thought it was good especially the actors that play Frank and Billy.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

The Billy stuff was really anti climactic. They should've left him out completely. It took away from the more interesting John Pilgrim.

[Sixx]

Not as good as season one, but still enjoyed it.

Bernthal is so over the top with the grunting. He keeps doing that, he's gonna be the next Batman.

[Tom Guycott]

Good season. Funny how everyone is stuck just dealing with how crazy Castle is.

The Billy stuff was really anti climactic. They should've left him out completely. It took away from the more interesting John Pilgrim.

I didn't mind it. In fact, I strangely liked how anticlimactic that part of it was... though I think it might have been more a metaphor for the show. If there were guaranteed non Disney meddling and keeping everything around on Netflix, he likely would have been built bigger.

I *still* have a problem with how lucky Frank is, though. I mean as in how much more luck and happenstance favors him than his actual badass military skill or tactical planning. It wasn't nearly as bad as season 1, but seriously.

Best exchange, though:

"You need a minute?"

"I was waitin' on you."

They respected eachother enough to try to kill the other man fair and square.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Yeah Pilgrim was really interesting. I wish he was more of a focus.

Favorite Punisher like is still telling Daredevil "When you hit em, they get back up. When I hit em, they stay down".

[ClockShot]

Cancelled.

[El Vaquero de Infierno]

This sucks ass. We could have had at least another season.

[Rammsteinmad]

Okay I'm only just catching up with all of this. So why is this bad? Can't Disney pick them up, or is it too mature?

[Kalyx triaD]

A combination of Disney putting their own effort into the TV scene and Disney+.