Official Smackdown Live Thread "White cis-male MANSPLAINS the womens MITB Ladder Match"

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Big E with the Seinfeld shirt

[Emperor Smeat]

:lol: New Day and Bryan making fun of Renee right now.

[Lock Jaw]

Very good to have D-Bry back on Talking Smack

[Dark One]

"On a scale of 1-10, how sweaty are you right now?"
"I'm always sweaty."

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[Dark One]

"WWE Dads" is a gross show.

Tar Poop.

[Lock Jaw]

tarpoopfromweiner dude

[Dark One]

For Drebin, apparently during a commercial:

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[Dark One]

tarpoopfromweiner dude

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[Tom Guycott]

Juventud Guerrera. Someone give him a visa.

You'd be willing to give a visa to some jabroni named Ju-ven-tud?!?

[Tom Guycott]

For Drebin, apparently during a commercial:

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Is it bad that I totally thought Mike Bennett was Heath Slater for awhile at first? I was wondering why he was there and not her husband. Oops.

[slik]

Fell asleep and missed SD...catching up via WWE's YouTube page

Owens/Gable was pretty good
Dolph/Shinsuke seemed good and I hope Nakamura can move on to someone else now
Carmella - best promo she has ever done
Ellsworth good on the mic
Becky Lynch passionate backstage promo

Were Maria/Mike on 205Live instead of SDLive?

[slik]

oh during a commercial break

SD seemed pretty good overall IMO from the clips I watched...about to catch up on 205 Live next

[slik]

Vic Joseph good on play-by-play
Mustafa Ali vs Drew Gulak good
I like Mustafa's ring gear

[KIRA]

Ellsworth has also been killing it on twitter http://www.tpww.net/2017/06/james-ellsworth-vs-womens-division-on-twitter/

[Ruien]

Lol, they took the briefcase away from Carmella? Since when were there rules in a MiTB match?

[Volare]

Or any ladder match.

[Lock Jaw]

There aren't any, but Daniel Bryan going with his heart rather than the rulebook.......

[Big Vic]

I'm now officially identify as a woman, if this thread is made unofficial that would be HIGHLY transphobic.

(Just a note: I no longer identify as a woman)

[Frank Drebin]

Never watching SDL again due to their immediate mistreatment of Mike and Maria Kenellis. Too much burning up in your love for WWE, apparently.

[Droford]

Lol, they took the briefcase away from Carmella? Since when were there rules in a MiTB match?

Or any ladder match.

There aren't any, but Daniel Bryan going with his heart rather than the rulebook.......
And I can't wait til Carmella wins the redo match by having the briefcase accidentally fall off the hook.

[Lock Jaw]

Yeah, have a feeling she will just win again.....

[Frank Drebin]

They'll do the exact same ending with Ellsworth going up to get it since it still wasn't said he couldn't do it or be at ringside. Someone will either come out to stop him or the other women in the match all team up to beat the crap out of Ellsworth, possibly while Carmella grabs the case.

[Lock Jaw]

Daniel Bryan BANNED Ellsworth from ringside on Talking Smack

[Lock Jaw]

Not that being BANNED has ever stopped somebody from interfering.....

Phone autocorrects word BANNED to be all caps.....

[Ruien]

They should put Lana in the match now.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Graves couldn't even keep a straight face saying WWE2k18 is the most anticipated video game.

He knows Fire Pro Wrestling is out July 10th!

[KIRA]

We didn't get to burn inside love last night but still for Mr. Frank Drebin a consolation

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[Triple A]

so true

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">It was beyond ridiculous of <a href="https://twitter.com/WWEDanielBryan">@WWEDanielBryan</a> stripping <a href="https://twitter.com/CarmellaWWE">@CarmellaWWE</a> of <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MITB?src=hash">#MITB</a> total abuse of power by the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/SDLive?src=hash">#SDLive</a> GM <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/JusticeForCarmella?src=hash">#JusticeForCarmella</a></p>&mdash; James Ellsworth (@realellsworth) <a href="https://twitter.com/realellsworth/status/877363524175056896">June 21, 2017</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[drave]

Never watching SDL again due to their immediate mistreatment of Mike and Maria Kenellis. Too much burning up in your love for WWE, apparently.


It really is horrible, and not in a "so horrible it is bad" way at all. It is utter fucking garbage.

[drave]

so true

It was beyond ridiculous of @WWEDanielBryan (https://twitter.com/WWEDanielBryan) stripping @CarmellaWWE (https://twitter.com/CarmellaWWE) of #MITB (https://twitter.com/hashtag/MITB?src=hash) total abuse of power by the #SDLive (https://twitter.com/hashtag/SDLive?src=hash) GM #JusticeForCarmella (https://twitter.com/hashtag/JusticeForCarmella?src=hash)
— James Ellsworth (@realellsworth) June 21, 2017 (https://twitter.com/realellsworth/status/877363524175056896) <script async="" src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


Nonsense. She will win again with an underhanded tactic and they will become one of the hottest heel teams in recent memory.

[KIRA]

so true

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">It was beyond ridiculous of <a href="https://twitter.com/WWEDanielBryan">@WWEDanielBryan</a> stripping <a href="https://twitter.com/CarmellaWWE">@CarmellaWWE</a> of <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MITB?src=hash">#MITB</a> total abuse of power by the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/SDLive?src=hash">#SDLive</a> GM <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/JusticeForCarmella?src=hash">#JusticeForCarmella</a></p>&mdash; James Ellsworth (@realellsworth) <a href="https://twitter.com/realellsworth/status/877363524175056896">June 21, 2017</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


From a certain standpoint he did break the rules . The participants (he wasn't one of them) in the match are to climb the ladder and retrive the briefcase

[drave]

There are no rules in said match, therefore anything goes. The only thing Carmella didn't do was physically climb the ladder.

She still was the first match participant to have the case in her hands, off the rung. Therefore, unless they pull out some detailed rules, she still wins.

[drave]

Feel like if anyone else had the case (ellsworth dropped it or someone knocked his ass out and took it), no one would care. Instead, errybody is talking about it and they get to showcase their talent again.

[Simple Fan]

Now that Cass and Enzo are split, just have Cass squash Enzo next week on Raw. Then on Smackdown Cass shows up and does the same thing Ellsworth did and grabs the case for Carmella. Lets see Bryan take the case away from Big Cass.

[drave]

Sounds like the best chance he has at making it TBH. Insta heel heat on SDL and I feel like he would be more competitive with the talent over there vs. RAW.

[Simple Fan]

Sounds like the best chance he has at making it TBH. Insta heel heat on SDL and I feel like he would be more competitive with the talent over there vs. RAW.

Agree, seems like Enzo first and then Big Show. That might last up to Summerslam though.

[KIRA]

Now that Cass and Enzo are split, just have Cass squash Enzo next week on Raw. Then on Smackdown Cass shows up and does the same thing Ellsworth did and grabs the case for Carmella. Lets see Bryan take the case away from Big Cass.

He holds the briefcase just outta arms reach laughing which makes DB back up and knee kick him in the face thus signaling Bryan's return to in ring action.

Becky Lynch charges in to take out Carmella and a (now third wheel Ellsworth)

boom two intertwining feuds

I see now why people write these "what if" scenarios these are fun.

[#1-norm-fan]

Ellsworth banned from ringside. HE'S NOT BANNED FROM BEING BACKSTAGE AND RAISING THE BRIEFCASE WHENEVER ANYONE ELSE TRIES TO GET IT THOUGH.

[Sepholio]

Ellsworth banned from ringside. HE'S NOT BANNED FROM BEING BACKSTAGE AND RAISING THE BRIEFCASE WHENEVER ANYONE ELSE TRIES TO GET IT THOUGH.

LOL, it's like that car insurance commercial with the little old man that has a dollar bill attached to a fishing pole and keeps pulling it away at the last second. "WHOOPS. Almost there. Oh you almost had it!"

[Sepholio]

Also, Asuka is winning that womens MITB match on SD next week. Just sayin'.

[Frank Drebin]

It really is horrible, and not in a "so horrible it is bad" way at all. It is utter fucking garbage.

I like the gimmick actually. Motivational couple who think they know all the secrets to success. That's how it was presented, I thought, anyway. It could crash and burn like so many things, but they think highly enough of them to A) skip NXT entirely and B) take Maryse off TV for now so as not to have two "it" couples seem like mirror images.

[Frank Drebin]

Also, Asuka is winning that womens MITB match on SD next week. Just sayin'.

I want Asuka's debut to be a surprise for a smarky crowd after 'Mainia or even SummerSlam if they get the same kinda crowd. My dream was for Charlotte to have had the title thru WM and then cuts a promo about how no one can beat her, then Asuka's music hits and the crowd goes wild.

[DAMN iNATOR]

so true

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">It was beyond ridiculous of <a href="https://twitter.com/WWEDanielBryan">@WWEDanielBryan</a> stripping <a href="https://twitter.com/CarmellaWWE">@CarmellaWWE</a> of <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MITB?src=hash">#MITB</a> total abuse of power by the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/SDLive?src=hash">#SDLive</a> GM <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/JusticeForCarmella?src=hash">#JusticeForCarmella</a></p>&mdash; James Ellsworth (@realellsworth) <a href="https://twitter.com/realellsworth/status/877363524175056896">June 21, 2017</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Nonsense. She will win again with an underhanded tactic and they will become one of the hottest heel teams in recent memory.

Although I believe drave is right, I'm with Triple A and "Slam Master James" on this one...the stripping of the briefcase was way too dangerous a precedent to set, especially by tyrannical leader Daniel Bryan, who lest we forget, said right at the top he wouldn't let his emotions get the better of him in making the decision. I believe he violated that promise when he angrily responded to Ellsworth, and I do think it played a key factor in Bryan's decision. I think he was prepared to let Carmella get away with murder so to speak until James' promo on him, which made him change his mind, and because it was still so fresh in his mind, he reversed his decision and stripped her of the briefcase AFTER letting his e options cloud the decision.

I can kind of see it going one of two ways here: Either Shane shows up next week in the ring to start the show and calls James and Carmella to join him in the ring and says that since GM Daniel Bryan didn't keep his word to the Board of Directors last week when he made his decision, the MitB women's rematch is OFF and re-awards the briefcase to Carmella.

Of course, the more likely thing, as drave said, is the rematch happens and Carmella wins again, probably with some kind of heel tactic.

Either way, assuming Carmella gets the briefcase back and the match doesn't end the show, I'd book the following to happen: During a long, competitive, knock-down, drag-out fight between Lana and Naomi for the women's belt, you have Carmella's music hit, distracting Naomi, who gets rolled up and pinned, perhaps with Lana having Naomi by the tights to win her first SD! Women's Championship. Lana, however, is exhausted and can barely even stand. Carmella's music hits again, only this time she shows up, briefcase in hand, cashes in on a weakened Lana, hits her finisher and wins the belt to shock the crowd and get instant heat with the fans, who see her as an opportunistic, undeserving and perhaps even illegitimate SD! Women's Champion.

[Dark One]

If Becky doesn't win, we riot.

[Emperor Smeat]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">We came close last night, Dayton! <br><br>Thanks for the support.<br><br>Also, I moved back to Minnesota this morning... <a href="https://t.co/DdIFUYwFlB">pic.twitter.com/DdIFUYwFlB</a></p>&mdash; Chad Gable (@WWEGable) <a href="https://twitter.com/WWEGable/status/877576659683000320">June 21, 2017</a></blockquote>
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[Destor]

Stripping carmella makes the finish pointless.

[Volare]

Ex of mine is friends with Gable from high school. Told her, "Great, let me know if he gives out free tickets." :)

[DAMN iNATOR]

If Becky doesn't win, we riot.

Well then by all means
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[Big Vic]

Cass should come to SDL and form a Tag Team with Ellsworth.

[#1-norm-fan]

Ellsworth banned from ringside. HE'S NOT BANNED FROM BEING BACKSTAGE AND RAISING THE BRIEFCASE WHENEVER ANYONE ELSE TRIES TO GET IT THOUGH.

LOL, it's like that car insurance commercial with the little old man that has a dollar bill attached to a fishing pole and keeps pulling it away at the last second. "WHOOPS. Almost there. Oh you almost had it!"

lol There is a part of me that wants to see Ellsworth just find ways to ruin all "historic" women's matches. "Aww. Poor women can't even grab a briefcase like us manly men can! *shows off the pythons*"