Smackdown 205 Live 8/15/17 featuring Some Rasslin, The Maharaja, Fashion Peaks, and Stale Pro-USA Cena promo?

[Emperor Smeat]

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SmackDown LIVE preview, August 15, 2017: Cena and Mahal clash in huge main event

Just five days before SummerSlam, John Cena will battle WWE Champion Jinder Mahal in an epic non-title bout. Will The Modern-Day Maharaja be able to put his impending championship defense against Shinsuke Nakamura on the backburner and focus on the 16-time World Champion? Will Cena manage to direct his attention to Mahal with Baron Corbin waiting in the wings? See what happens when Cena and Mahal collide on SmackDown LIVE, tonight at 8/7 C on USA Network!


SmackDown LIVE Preview : Quick Hits

John Cena faces Jinder Mahal tonight on SmackDown LIVE
AJ Styles to apologize to Shane McMahon
Natalya battles Becky Lynch before SummerSlam title showdown
Breezango returns to “Fashion Peaks” one last time



<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Can't believe <a href="https://twitter.com/JinderMahal">@JinderMahal</a> is giving a kid like <a href="https://twitter.com/JohnCena">@JohnCena</a> a chance to be in the ring with him. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ReasonsToWatchSmackDown?src=hash">#ReasonsToWatchSmackDown</a></p>&mdash; WWE Creative Humor (@WWECreative_ish) <a href="https://twitter.com/WWECreative_ish/status/897471273453969409">August 15, 2017</a></blockquote>
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[Droford]

The Summer of Jinder is almost over

[rez]

aw yis. our champion

[ClockShot]

OH BOY! A SONG AND DANCE ROUTINE!

[Triple A]

I`m watching

[rez]

This is the only acceptable reason the pyro was taken away for such a grand show jinder just gave us.

[Droford]

Lol this was probably his SS entrance but do to time constraints they got cut

[rez]

Please rise

[Droford]

Everybody hinders jinder

[rez]

damn statue nazis need to show some respect

[ClockShot]

Feel bad for these performers. I can only imagine the pep talk they got backstage.

Production lackey - "Look, we appreciate what you do. But know that when you go out there, you're gonna get booed to death. Just keep smiling!"

[Triple A]

hope they don't ever let Nakamura talk again.........

[Emperor Smeat]

Feel bad for these performers. I can only imagine the pep talk they got backstage.

Production lackey - "Look, we appreciate what you do. But know that when you go out there, you're gonna get booed to death. Just keep smiling!"

Creative probably gives Jinder the same script each week and the past week's date crossed out for the current date.

[Droford]

I feel like there's no way this is a good match but it'll probably be early and not remembered anyway

[rez]

This showdown makes me sad. I love both hibachi grills and Indian food.

[ClockShot]

Creative probably gives Jinder the same script each week and the past week's date crossed out for the current date.

Obviously.

[Droford]

How many times have there been a wwe title match between two people not from US/Canada(fully aware Jinder is from Canada but not storyline)

[Frank Drebin]

Nothing like getting the ugly Americans to boo another country's nationality and national anthem.

[Frank Drebin]

BOO THE BROWN PEOPLE. BOO THEM ALL!!!

[Droford]

I'm more interested in Natalya/Naomi than Sasha/Alexa

[Lock Jaw]

How many times have there been a wwe title match between two people not from US/Canada(fully aware Jinder is from Canada but not storyline)

Did Sheamus and Alberto Del Rio ever fight for the WWE Title? I know they fought 70 times for the Heavyweight title.

[ClockShot]

Glow girl gotta lose this Sunday.

Don't want her to, but that belt is hideous. Should have never touched it.

[rez]

How many times have there been a wwe title match between two people not from US/Canada(fully aware Jinder is from Canada but not storyline)

I got into 1999 and gave up :|

[Droford]

Glow girl gotta lose this Sunday.

Don't want her to, but that belt is hideous. Should have never touched it.

Natalyas belt will be covered in cat hair

[ClockShot]

AWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW! ELLSWORTHLESS IS BACK!

DAMN IT!

[Droford]

I bet they don't do a women's MITB next year

[Triple A]

Carmella and Ellsworth rule...

[Emperor Smeat]

They are really telegraphing Carmella isn't going to cash-in or have her first attempt fail with Carmella constantly stating she's leaving SummerSlam as champ.

[Emperor Smeat]

I bet they don't do a women's MITB next year

Probably do one with RAW next year and maybe afterwards its as a mix brand match on one of the Big 4 events or MitB ppv.

[Droford]

I wonder if Tamina and Nia could switch and no one notice?

[ClockShot]

I wonder if Tamina and Nia could switch and no one notice?

:wave:

I would.

[KIRA]

So what did I miss?

[rez]

So what did I miss?

the thread showing jinder the respect he deserves. about it.

[Emperor Smeat]

So what did I miss?

Not much. Mainly Jinder giving the same weekly promo but with Nakamura interrupting him and Natty beating Becky with Carmella giving the same weekly promo afterwards.

Also the Usos want to fight New Day later tonight.

[ClockShot]

I'M NOT FINISHED WITH YOU!

Idea!

Braun & Rusev become a tag team.

Nobody can stop them.

[KIRA]

the thread showing jinder the respect he deserves. about it.

I hope the human flotsam in that arena had integrity to recognize The MAHARAJA as their better when he came out.

[ClockShot]

Poor Gable.

He really got screwed with Jason Jordan going to Raw.

[KIRA]

So goes a talented Gable at least he got to keep the theme.

[Emperor Smeat]

Pretty cool RKO OUTTA NOWHERE moment

[KIRA]

Randy seemed so alive when he was a Wyatt now its like hes going through the motions again.

[Droford]

Shane McMahon joined nWo Hollywood brother

[Droford]

Shane sweaty

[Savio]

Was washing dishes did I miss fashion peaks?

[rez]

beat shane up match?

[Emperor Smeat]

Wouldn't be surprised if Shane pulled the PG version of this against Owens. Extra points if a random zoom to Owens face also happens.

http://i.imgur.com/FdJYAPZ.gif

[rez]

Wouldn't be surprised if Shane pulled the PG version of this against Owens. Extra points if a random zoom to Owens face also happens.

http://i.imgur.com/FdJYAPZ.gif

yesss

[Emperor Smeat]

:lol: Woods

[KIRA]

I love that they actually acknowledge the New Day line up change as significant

[Triple A]

Isn't this match also happening at SummerSlam

[KIRA]

Isn't this match also happening at SummerSlam

Yes. The roster is huge and all they could do was give you a mini summerslam

[Evil Vito]

Has there been a PPV in the last 5 years where at least one of the PPV matches didn't see one participant defeat the other on TV the week before? It's remarkably lazy.

[Emperor Smeat]

Has there been a PPV in the last 5 years where at least one of the PPV matches didn't see one participant defeat the other on TV the week before? It's remarkably lazy.

Pretty much just Lesnar singles matches since he almost never wrestles on tv.

[Emperor Smeat]

:lol: Viktor

[Evil Vito]

Breezango are the best thing in the history of professional wrestling.

[Triple A]

wonder if this match will end in a Singh Bros run-in

[Droford]

Corbin a moron

[slik]

If Corbin was smart he would've just cashed in

also that was Jinder's best match as champ, credit to Cena

[rez]

lol baron x2 idiot moves in a row

[Emperor Smeat]

:lol: if they legit have a title change to end Smackdown

[Triple A]

damn

[rez]

WHBHHWAHAHHAHHA

[Triple A]

Cena gonna cost him the match

[rez]

JINDER!!!!!!!!

[Emperor Smeat]

OMG they actually wasted it.

:lol: that was dumb as hell.

[Droford]

Lolwtf haha

[Triple A]

smh

[Ruien]

LOL FUCK BORING CORBIN

[rez]

so...wouldn't have corbin still had a match against a champion cena at SS if he would have allowed him to win? ..or would have shin?

[DAMN iNATOR]

FUCK CENA.

[slik]

LMFAO that was hysterical

[Savio]

At least this means Corbin won't be champ this year.

[Droford]

Cenas a dumbass if he lets Corbin win he'd have a title match..Jesus Christ there was so much stupid in the last 5 minuted

[DAMN iNATOR]

So now it's Cena, Sandow and Corbin on the list of guts who failed to cash in successfully.

[Evil Vito]

I feel like I should be pissed off.....but MITB is so played out that I don't mind people losing their opportunity occasionally. At least it wasn't a Sandow where he lost clean.

[Emperor Smeat]

Wonder if Damien Sandow is smiling right now. He's no longer the only guy to actually fail his cash-in.

[Savio]

so...wouldn't have corbin still had a match against a champion cena at SS if he would have allowed him to win? ..or would have shin?

I think the match was non-title.

Also Jinder is easier to beat than Cena.

[KIRA]

Damn Corbin just wasted his MITB

[Ruien]

LOL FUCK BORING CORBIN

[Ruien]

Best 10 minutes of wrestling that I have ever watched. Thank God Cena was on or I would have skipped the entire show and missed the cash in.

[Ruien]

Love the AA from the second rope too.

[Evil Vito]

The one plot hole I can see is that, presumably, Cena just cost himself a title match.

But I guess you can explain that away with Cena not wanting to take away that opportunity from Nakamura who beat him fair and square.

[Ruien]

Cena was laid out. He probably had no idea what was going on and wanted to beat Corbins aww. Stop making such w big deal out of it everyone.

[slik]

I can't stop laughing at how much I loved that.

The best thing WWE has done, excluding Fashion Files, all year. So fucking funny.

[Ruien]

Hopefully this means the WWE has seen how boring Corbin is.

[Evil Vito]

If MITB is gonna still be a thing, they need to change it up now and then. Just having a heel waltz in for an easy title win got incredibly stale a few years ago.

This at least establishes MITB isn't a guarantee for success. It breathes new life into the gimmick.

[DAMN iNATOR]

Wonder if Damien Sandow is smiling right now. He's no longer the only guy to actually fail his cash-in.

Did you forget that Cena also failed his cash-in? Think it was against Punk. I do remember him giving a week's advance warning, and they gave that as the main explanation for his loss. Big Show interfered and got him DQ'ed.

[Emperor Smeat]

Within 2 days, WWE gave away a title change (Cruiser), a high profile match with clean ending (Bray vs Finn), and an official cash-in instead of waiting a few more days for SummerSlam.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Fuck Dave Meltzer!

[Emperor Smeat]

Did you forget that Cena also failed his cash-in? Think it was against Punk. I do remember him giving a week's advance warning, and they gave that as the main explanation for his loss. Big Show interfered and got him DQ'ed.

Cena won by DQ and only failed by a technicality since he didn't get the belt. Before today, Sandow was the only one to actually fail by pin/submission.

[DAMN iNATOR]

If MITB is gonna still be a thing, they need to change it up now and then. Just having a heel waltz in for an easy title win got incredibly stale a few years ago.

This at least establishes MITB isn't a guarantee for success. It breathes new life into the gimmick.

Disagree...it's mostly meant for opportunistic moments for guys to cash in and it should stay that way...doesn't mean every cash in needs to be successful per se, but no real reason to try to fix the way it is now when it's clearly not broken.

[Theo Dious]

That was some grade A faggotry.

[#1-norm-fan]

Disagree...it's mostly meant for opportunistic moments for guys to cash in and it should stay that way...doesn't mean every cash in needs to be successful per se, but no real reason to try to fix the way it is now when it's clearly not broken.

The titles look like shit partially because of it. it's lazy and doesn't actually get guys over now. It's broken.

[#1-norm-fan]

Also, BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

Fuck Corbin.

[Tom Guycott]

So now it's Cena, Sandow and Corbin on the list of guts who failed to cash in successfully.

And Ken Kennedy with an asterisk.

[Tom Guycott]

Hopefully this means the WWE has seen how boring Corbin is.

:Vince voice: "BUT HE'S TALL!!! AND MENACING!!! LOOK AT HOW TALL AND MENACING HE IS, DAMMIT!!!"

[Tom Guycott]

That was some grade A faggotry.

What exactly is the scale for grading "faggotry"?

[Ezra]

Personally I loved the ending. Didn't see it coming and it made me laugh.

On a character note it made sense. Corbin was so obsessed with costing Cena the match he forgot he could have just cashed in. He made his way back up to the ramp, looked backed and then it dawned on him.

He saw Cena out of the corner of his eye as the title match began and his goal once again became Cena. That lust cost him an easy title victory and I am hoping Corbin goes banana all over Cena at SummerSlam.

[#1-norm-fan]

I hope Cena squashes Corbin and he starts jobbing to Mojo Rawley.

[Vastardikai]

Me, if I NEEDED Corbin to win a belt, was do it at Summerslam.

Wait for Lesnar, Strowman, Reigns, and Joe to kill each other. Cash in on whoever wins, or more specifically, survives.

After all, does it specifically say it HAD to be for the WWE World Title?

[Destor]

Wonder if Damien Sandow is smiling right now. He's no longer the only guy to actually fail his cash-in.

Wasnt the Cena the 1st to fail?

[Destor]

Never mind it was covered

[DAMN iNATOR]

The titles look like shit partially because of it. it's lazy and doesn't actually get guys over now. It's broken.

Ya see, here's the thing, though: It's really NOT. Really.

And Ken Kennedy with an asterisk.

Eh, I wouldn't include him. Sure he won the briefcase, but the only reason he actually failed to cash in was because Edge won it from him, otherwise he was supposedly going to attempt his cash-in @ WM XXIV, however, since he never attempted to cash-in, I don't think he belongs on the list.

[Destor]

Too frequent. Gimmick is buried. Helps no one. Hasnt helped anyone since edge frankly.

[Tom Guycott]

... thus the asterisk.

Outside influences had him drop the briefcase in a non cash-in. That angle didn't play out to completion, even if we are all wrong and he was never supposed to win, dropping it to Edge was as much of a change of career trajectory as the "Mr McMahon's son" angle also being changed from him to Hornswoggle.

[Tom Guycott]

Also, I still wish there was a different outcome in the Sandow/Rhodes feud, where Damien still had the briefcase, but Cody took the contract out... if both men attempted to "cash in" and had legitimate grounds to do so.

But I also still want to see some fuckery where someone cashes in "mid match" and brings his own ref, so that the champion is in two simultaneous bouts: against the #1 ontender and against the MitB holder. Even better if both guys pin a prone champ. Who won the belt?!?!

[DAMN iNATOR]

... thus the asterisk.

Outside influences had him drop the briefcase in a non cash-in. That angle didn't play out to completion, even if we are all wrong and he was never supposed to win, dropping it to Edge was as much of a change of career trajectory as the "Mr McMahon's son" angle also being changed from him to Hornswoggle.

Nope, he doesn't belong on the list, with or without an asterisk. He never tried to cash-in. If he had, and then had failed to win the title, sure, he'd be #4, but putting thee contract on the line in a match and losing it is not the same as cashing it in and losing. It's an apples and oranges comparison.

My point still stands that ONLY Cena, Sandow and Corbin have ACTUALLY failed to cash-in.

[#1-norm-fan]

Ya see, here's the thing, though: It's really NOT. Really.

Too frequent. Gimmick is buried. Helps no one. Hasnt helped anyone since edge frankly.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Didn't really help Edge that much the first time since he lost the belt like 2 weeks later.

[Destor]

Edge was still a Bonified main eventer thanks to the run that starred with that moment.

RVD was posed to solidified with the case but he jinxed that

[#1-norm-fan]

RVD's was a legit match though. It's the typical "cash in on the knocked out face for heel heat" thing that's dead. Edge was the first to do it and it worked for him because it was new. He basically made a gimmick out of it ("The Ultimate Opportunist"). Since then, it's just been driven into the ground and used as a lazy way to get heels over and it just... doesn't. And it makes the title seem even more meaningless at the same time.

[Triple A]

Moved the Corbin stuff to its own thread: http://www.tpwwforums.com/showthread.php?t=133798

[Emperor Smeat]

RVD's was a legit match though. It's the typical "cash in on the knocked out face for heel heat" thing that's dead. Edge was the first to do it and it worked for him because it was new. He basically made a gimmick out of it ("The Ultimate Opportunist"). Since then, it's just been driven into the ground and used as a lazy way to get heels over and it just... doesn't. And it makes the title seem even more meaningless at the same time.

Biggest mistake by the WWE was having 2 MitB cases each year when it became brand specific. Watered-down the specialness of the MitB case and got very lazy with booking people they wanted as future champions.

Only real bright side to Corbin as holder was he didn't get to do the typical multiple failed attempts that also got driven down to the ground.

[XL]

I don't remember an ECW MITB.

[Big Vic]

Yeah I don't think ECW had one, are you thinking of the Sabu/RVD Ladder match?

[#1-norm-fan]

I think the ECW had a "working relationship" with Raw at the time so the RAW MITB match was for ECW, too. Don't know if they could challenge for either title or what. It was all a big, convoluted mess.

[Big Vic]

But there wasn't 3 cases.

[KIRA]

I hope Cena squashes Corbin and he starts jobbing to Mojo Rawley.

I personally like Corbin a lot more than Mojo Rawley

[#1-norm-fan]

Seriously though, Cena definitely needs to beat Corbin. Save the "OMGWHATANUPSET" Cena losses for guys who actually have fucking star potential. Enough with giving everyone a win over Cena in hopes of magically getting them over in an instant.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Problem is they have a hardon for shitbag corbin and THINK he has star power and will lazily put him over Cena for no fucking reason.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Good think about nak is they pushed it as a dream match so while him winning clean was surprising it wasnt some fluke upset cuz of naks reputation at leadt kayfabe wise.

[mike adamle]

Even worse when they had 3 cases because of the ECW brand.

More fake news :roll:

[Emperor Smeat]

I don't remember an ECW MITB.

My mistake. Was thinking of how Kane randomly challenged for the ECW belt at a Mania one year and for some reason thought it was because of an ECW case.