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Emperor Smeat
08-16-2017, 01:52 AM
Someone on NeoGAF's wrestling board speculated the idea of Corbin losing his cash-in this close to SummerSlam could have been punishment due to a recent bad incident he had on Twitter.

Was ridiculing Meltzer on Twitter last week when someone else responded to his tweets which got the full ire of Corbin. Turns out the other person he trashed was from the military and the apology he gave came off as healf-hearted. Unlike other times he lashed out and made fun of people, Corbin deleted the tweets which could have been a sign the WWE found out and were pissed at what happened.

Destor
08-16-2017, 01:58 AM
I know Vince is a fucking statist but thats absurd. Cant argue with servicemen? Fuck off (if true)

Destor
08-16-2017, 01:58 AM
(IF TRUE)

#1-norm-fan
08-16-2017, 02:21 AM
I'd like to thank that man for his service. (Stopping Baron Corbin from being a world champion.)

#BROKEN Hasney
08-16-2017, 03:33 AM
Corbin failed to cash in?

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-a8ufyj9UK58/UuFkj2qst0I/AAAAAAAAP6Q/KBzWBKe4s9Q/s1600/mr-burns-laughing.gif

Meltzer thinks it was those Tweets too. You can just see the oh shit moment.

https://i.imgur.com/9MLv7LE_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=high

Tom Guycott
08-16-2017, 03:38 AM
I know Vince is a fucking statist but thats absurd. Cant argue with servicemen? Fuck off (if true)

Same guy who was ready to fire Titus O'Neil for a "shove" that nobody would have even really noticed if he didn't react like Titus just tried to kill him with a chainsaw and purportedly had to be talked down to simply suspending him for just enough time to allow him to miss a WrestleMania.

Triple A
08-16-2017, 03:40 AM
"I don't buy it" because that seems too idiotic if true... a fan insulted him and he insulted him back like he always does... also what Destor said

feels like Corbin probably deleted the tweets on his own because he immediately "backed down" when the guy "revealed" he was in the military ( :roll: )

#BROKEN Hasney
08-16-2017, 03:49 AM
In the past two weeks, he's been made to look a dweeb on Twitter by Mojo, Cena, Balor, and that military guy. Corbin has just "been a heel" but they have come back with something better and his responses have been crap. It's basically been the online equivalent of this

https://j.gifs.com/k5KJA5.gif

Tom Guycott
08-16-2017, 03:51 AM
What's really sad is that this exchange should be exploited to make him a super heel, since his character is supposed to be this amoral cock... and instead of being able to roll with that, he has to cover his ass because he might have offended someone in uniform, and that is verboten, lest we piss off servicemen ticketholders.

Triple A
08-16-2017, 03:51 AM
In the past two weeks, he's been made to look a dweeb on Twitter by Mojo, Cena, Balor, and that military guy. Corbin has just "been a heel" but they have come back with something better and his responses have been crap.

Yeah feels like they have prob "lost faith" in him, partly because of that but also because he has been kinda bad on the mic and stuff I think... and hasn't gotten a good crowd reaction

Tom Guycott
08-16-2017, 03:52 AM
In the past two weeks, he's been made to look a dweeb on Twitter by Mojo, Cena, Balor, and that military guy. Corbin has just "been a heel" but they have come back with something better and his responses have been crap. It's basically been the online equivalent of this

https://j.gifs.com/k5KJA5.gif

#buildingnewstars

#BROKEN Hasney
08-16-2017, 03:52 AM
What's really sad is that this exchange should be exploited to make him a super heel, since his character is supposed to be this amoral cock... and instead of being able to roll with that, he has to cover his ass because he might have offended someone in uniform, and that is verboten, lest we piss off servicemen ticketholders.

Punk said wayyy back on that colt podcast that they encourage you to stay in character on Twitter, but when you heel on someone, you get a call from the office. And that's just heeling on a regular guy, not a dude "in uniform" that Vince loves.

Triple A
08-16-2017, 03:57 AM
Also last week Meltzer "buried" Corbin, though everything he said is pretty much true, so maybe that had an effect (or they came to the same conclusions on their own)

What we do know is that Corbin was being groomed for the title later this year. However, that was before the decision to go with Mahal on top for the Indian market. For all the reasons, whether good or bad, that they went with Mahal, it makes absolutely zero sense to switch from him to go with Corbin. It’s not a matter of who is better, as Mahal is the better promo and has the stronger facial expressions, but Corbin has little going for him past he’s tall and can be pushed as a bully, but doesn’t have main event promos or charisma. And even though people probably don’t realize it, Mahal (31) is actually the younger of the two (32). The point is if the goal is to grow India, why take the title from Mahal? If that isn’t working, and ratings are up, and not down (although that’s more due to Cena being back full-time, but Mahal at least can’t be said has led to any migration of audience away), Corbin is everything Mahal is except he has no strong babyface appeal in a foreign land that they are targeting.

Tom Guycott
08-16-2017, 04:16 AM
Punk said wayyy back on that colt podcast that they encourage you to stay in character on Twitter, but when you heel on someone, you get a call from the office. And that's just heeling on a regular guy, not a dude "in uniform" that Vince loves.

Yeah, I thought about that, and the "I shit my trunks" thing he had to erase/edit.

Overall, their social media aspect of anything has pretty much shit the bed. Neverminding Matt Hardy laying the groundwork well ahead of its time, WWE proved how incapable they are at this starting with Zack Ryder. Up to him, the company themselves would constantly paint "the internet" as about 5 people maximum in an international neckbeard circlejerk, when there were more people on social media than that IN THEIR EMPLOY. Then, they overlook the groundswell. Then, they try to manufacture it elsewhere like social media presence and YouTube shows were their idea all along. Then they sink a bunch of cash into that Johnny-come-lately Tout. Some talent get the opportunity to show more charisma and personality in 140 characters than they get allowed to on TV, because they can't find a few extra minutes to fit them in from 5-6 hours of TV a week (is Main Event still a TV thing, or is that network only now?) to exhibit any of it. Other people use their social media to divorce themselves from their TV personas. Others still flip back and forth between the two to go from being full on asshole heel to posting heartfelt pics of their kid.

There is no focus, and it being there, in spite of it now being one of the things the world can't revolve without anymore, is still treated as an afterthought UNLESS there is some backlash like Hogan's viral racisim shoot or Corbin shitting on a serviceman here.

#BROKEN Hasney
08-16-2017, 04:39 AM
It's not all bad for Corbin, he set a new record!

Jinder Mahal pinned Baron Corbin in 6 seconds to win a WWE Championship match, beating the previous official title match record.

Evil Vito
08-16-2017, 08:42 AM
Watching it back, Jinder's foot goes under the ropes during the pin.

I actually wouldn't be surprised if that was by design. WWE pick and choose when they want to care about that stuff so they may not bother. But it gives them an "out" if they want to cancel the match result and give Corbin the case back or have an excuse to put him in the title picture once Cena goes to Raw.

#BROKEN Hasney
08-16-2017, 08:51 AM
If they wanted to use "logic" they could also say fuck Baron since he ruined the main event of the evening so he gets nothing.

Evil Vito
08-16-2017, 09:04 AM
I think I'm one of the few here that actually like Corbin and see potential - but he's nowhere near title ready. I thought this made for a fun twist and to me it adds more intrigue to both Cena/Corbin and Nakamura/Mahal. I couldn't give less of a shit about either match before last night.

#BROKEN Hasney
08-16-2017, 09:16 AM
I still give no shits about either match as they feature Baron Corbin and Jinder Mahal.

Sorry :(

Big Vic
08-16-2017, 09:35 AM
The #BrokenUniverse Explodes?

#BROKEN Hasney
08-16-2017, 09:52 AM
I said sorry to the obsolete mule, what more do you want?!

Evil Vito
08-16-2017, 10:05 AM
Guess I'll fade away........

#1-norm-fan
08-16-2017, 12:06 PM
In the past two weeks, he's been made to look a dweeb on Twitter by Mojo, Cena, Balor, and that military guy. Corbin has just "been a heel" but they have come back with something better and his responses have been crap. It's basically been the online equivalent of this

https://j.gifs.com/k5KJA5.gif

Holy shit...

That is a six man announce table...

Simple Fan
08-16-2017, 12:25 PM
Damn, didn't expect they'd have Corbin cash in unsuccessfully. Smack down wasn't nearly as good as Raw this week.

Lock Jaw
08-16-2017, 01:07 PM
Just watched it...... cash in was dumb........

#1-norm-fan
08-16-2017, 01:59 PM
It was great. Fuck Baron Corbin. We've avoided another shitty, boring title run by a shitty, boring guy that's gonna ruin the value of the title and make wrestling even shittier and more boring...

for now.

#BROKEN Hasney
08-16-2017, 03:47 PM
It was great. Fuck Baron Corbin. We've avoided another shitty, boring title run by a shitty, boring guy that's gonna ruin the value of the title and make wrestling even shittier and more boring...

for now.

It does mean we have a shitty, boring guy ruining the value of the title as it is...

Ruien
08-16-2017, 04:22 PM
It was great. Fuck Baron Corbin. We've avoided another shitty, boring title run by a shitty, boring guy that's gonna ruin the value of the title and make wrestling even shittier and more boring...

for now.

:y:

Fuck Boring Corbin.

#1-norm-fan
08-16-2017, 05:23 PM
It does mean we have a shitty, boring guy ruining the value of the title as it is...

I'd take Jinder over Corbin any day. At least he has a semblance of a personality.

Lock Jaw
08-16-2017, 05:26 PM
I'd take Corbin over Jinder every day.

Destor
08-16-2017, 05:31 PM
Jimder is easily the right choice...

#BROKEN Hasney
08-16-2017, 05:41 PM
Jinder or Corbin is like asking if I want a metal needle or a cactus needle in my urethra. Just let Cena have it even.

Oh shit, I just found out their master plan. I'd actually cheer Cena over Jinder and Corbin's mediocrity. YOU'VE SHOWN ME IT COULD BE WORSE, VINCE. YOU WIN.

GD
08-16-2017, 10:50 PM
Oh shit!

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The pseudo motivational speaker act is transparent. You laughed in my face while ruining the biggest moment of my career. I'm with the girl <a href="https://t.co/4WwVXsqyFv">https://t.co/4WwVXsqyFv</a></p>&mdash; Baron Corbin (@BaronCorbinWWE) <a href="https://twitter.com/BaronCorbinWWE/status/897917167634722818">August 16, 2017</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">No matter what you do, there will always be hate. You have 2 choices, Hate back, or Smile and <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/RiseAboveHate?src=hash">#RiseAboveHate</a> I prefer option 2 �� <a href="https://t.co/XJrjXRTzbb">pic.twitter.com/XJrjXRTzbb</a></p>&mdash; John Cena (@JohnCena) <a href="https://twitter.com/JohnCena/status/897762904417501184">August 16, 2017</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Theo Dious
08-17-2017, 12:14 AM
https://j.gifs.com/k5KJA5.gif

Why is Leonard from the Big Bang Theory at a WWE announce table?

DAMN iNATOR
08-17-2017, 01:38 AM
Watching it back, Jinder's foot goes under the ropes during the pin.

I actually wouldn't be surprised if that was by design. WWE pick and choose when they want to care about that stuff so they may not bother. But it gives them an "out" if they want to cancel the match result and give Corbin the case back or have an excuse to put him in the title picture once Cena goes to Raw.

Not to mention Corbin kicking out at 2...

It was great. Fuck Baron Corbin. We've avoided another shitty, boring title run by a shitty, boring guy that's gonna ruin the value of the title and make wrestling even shittier and more boring...

for now.

No, it was ridiculous. I'm with LJ...I'd rather have Corbin as champ.

Simple Fan
08-17-2017, 02:23 AM
Truthfully that's what he gets for giving an apology. Could have just played it off as being a heel. Still shocked he cashed in unsuccessfully.

Black Widow
08-17-2017, 05:42 AM
https://i.imgur.com/wUJXLzM_d.webp?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=high
https://i.imgur.com/OzdJlV2_d.webp?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=high

He's a Moron anyway.

SenatorJPO
08-18-2017, 05:25 PM
I'm sure Corbin regets -- I mean, "regrets" -- cashing-in as he did.

SenatorJPO
08-18-2017, 05:27 PM
Did anyone else read about Chyna's impotence and how the In-laws joined DX?

You know, in that article where the headline was, "X-Pac on DX Reg(r)ets."

#1-norm-fan
08-18-2017, 05:31 PM
https://i.imgur.com/wUJXLzM_d.webp?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=high
https://i.imgur.com/OzdJlV2_d.webp?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=high

He's a Moron anyway.

This is incredibly awkward. lol

Mr. Nerfect
08-19-2017, 08:38 PM
Fuck Baron Corbin. The dude is a tranquilizer dart of a performer. Probably a nice dude behind the scenes, but your charisma needs to be in front of the camera. He was the wrong choice for the briefcase.

James Steele
08-19-2017, 08:46 PM
Baron Corbin is a black hole for charisma and talent.

Mr. Nerfect
08-19-2017, 09:13 PM
Baron Corbin is a black hole for charisma and talent.

It's located in his belly button.

GD
08-20-2017, 03:05 AM
http://i.imgur.com/vSZICA7.jpg

Shadrick
08-20-2017, 09:15 AM
I'd take Jinder over Corbin any day. At least he has a semblance of a personality.

this. there is nothing that corbin is better at than Jinder. Anything you name, it's either a push, or Jinder is better at it.

Baron did more shit on Twitter but he deleted them. I saw them and said "yeah this dude is gonna lose that briefcase."

Sixx
08-20-2017, 09:21 AM
Baron Corbin is balding. That is all.

Vastardikai
08-20-2017, 09:57 AM
I figured that they found the monument to Lita, with the ball of her hair and the 2 dead cats that was hidden behind his rape dungeon, where he keeps 4 runaways locked up.

Sixx
08-20-2017, 10:31 AM
Soon to come:

http://i.imgur.com/RGyXpqN.png

Mr. Nerfect
08-20-2017, 07:13 PM
I don't think I agree that Corbin is worse than Mahal. When it comes to ring work and promo ability, at least when Talking Smack was around, I'd give the nod to Corbin. Mahal is really, really, really bad, lol.

mike adamle
08-20-2017, 07:23 PM
I don't think I agree that Corbin is worse than Mahal. When it comes to ring work and promo ability, at least when Talking Smack was around, I'd give the nod to Corbin. Mahal is really, really, really bad, lol.

You're just jealous Mahal is WWE Champion still and has now made it further in the business than Jim Cornette ever did.

Mr. Nerfect
08-21-2017, 06:00 AM
I think someone is a little obsessed with me.

Ol Dirty Dastard
08-21-2017, 11:38 AM
Listen Noid, drink some malt liquor and huff some paint fumes and then you'll ascend to Admle's level MMMKAY

Ol Dirty Dastard
08-21-2017, 11:41 AM
I don't think I agree that Corbin is worse than Mahal. When it comes to ring work and promo ability, at least when Talking Smack was around, I'd give the nod to Corbin. Mahal is really, really, really bad, lol.

Nahhhhhh Mahal is okay. He's obviously not a main event talent so to speak but whatever who fucking cares about that shit product anyways.

Corbin is this bland skinny fat dude that I literally turn the tv off when he's on screen. He's not a horrible worker but there's not much to him.

Mahal actually looks scary and he has great facials. He doesn't really botch in the ring, though he doesn't do much in the ring. Feel like if he got 7 extra minutes with Nak lastnight barring he settled into more rest holds they could have had a really nice match. Though I think Vince is in his ear about working a slow body builder style, feel like he could do much better work.

#BROKEN Hasney
08-21-2017, 01:05 PM
http://68.media.tumblr.com/23da09930b6a03bac83d88af528ef061/tumblr_ov064395CL1u1ljrzo2_540.gif

#1-norm-fan
08-21-2017, 01:27 PM
If Corbin gets much worse/more awkward he's gonna get one of those pushes WWE likes to give to people who are so bad they end up actually getting heat when pushed.

Mr. Nerfect
08-21-2017, 07:35 PM
Listen Noid, drink some malt liquor and huff some paint fumes and then you'll ascend to Admle's level MMMKAY

Hey, I'm always plastered up on malt liquor a little bit.

Mr. Nerfect
08-21-2017, 07:44 PM
Nahhhhhh Mahal is okay. He's obviously not a main event talent so to speak but whatever who fucking cares about that shit product anyways.

Corbin is this bland skinny fat dude that I literally turn the tv off when he's on screen. He's not a horrible worker but there's not much to him.

Mahal actually looks scary and he has great facials. He doesn't really botch in the ring, though he doesn't do much in the ring. Feel like if he got 7 extra minutes with Nak lastnight barring he settled into more rest holds they could have had a really nice match. Though I think Vince is in his ear about working a slow body builder style, feel like he could do much better work.

I used to make excuses for Mahal, but that was in his prior run when they had him slapping Khali and stuff. It was sort of the "blank canvas" potential thing. Since then, I've just seen nothing from Mahal that draws me in. I find his promos have a cadence that could literally put me to sleep, and his ring work is even more bland. It's not that he's bad-bad. I mean, he concussed Finn Balor and generally looks lost, haha, but he's not the worst ever in the ring or anything. He's definitely in the bottom five in WWE at the moment though, and he's not even that notably offensively bad that he becomes a guilty pleasure. Some guys would fuck up in such funny ways that it was almost amusing. There's nothing "funny" about how bad Mahal is. He's the most bland kind of bad there is.

He might be able to do better. I've never seen anything that makes me think that's true though. Billy Gunn always looked more dynamic in the ring. Has Mahal ever had a great match with anybody? Keep in mind that he's spent 15 years in the business at this point, and that he's had a 7-year relationship with the WWE, and a lot of that was spent on Superstars, where he would have been able to work longer. Can anyone find a great Jinder Mahal match?

Baron Corbin, whilst I hear your point, is better in the ring. I agree that he's a charisma vacuum; but so is Mahal. We're really discussing shades of sewerage here. I guess it really just comes down to which guy upsets you more. Mahal is just lower in ring skill and his push is slightly more annoying to me. I guess that's Corbin for you.

Triple A
08-31-2017, 03:30 AM
via Dave Meltzer

Regarding Corbin and his losing the briefcase and having the lackluster match with Cena, that had nothing to do with Cena, well, the match had to do with Cena as his dance partner, but his fortunes falling temporarily was not Cena related. It also had nothing to do with Twitter, although the Twitter stuff did him no favors, particularly with a lot of the wrestlers because it’s considered bad form to go on a blocking spree of your fellow wrestlers. It was an entirely different situation outside the ring that happened a few weeks ago

Mr. Nerfect
08-31-2017, 03:36 AM
Interesting. Maybe Vince kept asking him to shave off those sideburns?

#BROKEN Hasney
08-31-2017, 03:50 AM
https://68.media.tumblr.com/b32d6c60e8dbaeffc4b7e52ded043650/tumblr_ovhxijDxOj1s05wxzo1_400.gif

Also, lol at photoshopped hairline

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DIgtkcrXkAICrBc.jpg:large

Emperor Smeat
09-02-2017, 02:11 AM
Observer's Meltzer hinted the mystery thing Corbin did derailing his big push was something that for anyone else not in Vince's graces would have been fired for. Also hinted Vince still views him as a big future star.

He's waiting on more sources to confirm the actual thing before he reveals it publicly.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DIq1YzpXcAI6LFQ.jpg

#1-norm-fan
09-02-2017, 02:46 AM
"Vince loves him".

If there's any quote that captures just how much Vince has forgotten what "entertaining" is...

#1-norm-fan
09-02-2017, 02:53 AM
Seriously, Vince needs to take a day, turn off his phone and just look back on what he did with Hogan and Austin and then look at the fact that he's currently looking at Baron Corbin like "Yeah. THAT'S my next star!".

I feel like that might be enough for him to realize "Holy fuck, I've lost it. Gonna just hang out at home now, guys. You do this shit."

#1-norm-fan
09-02-2017, 03:04 AM
Johnny fucking Curtis is a man who is insanely charismatic, good looking, tall, muscular, good in the ring, so comfortable on the mic and in front of a crowd that it's ridiculous, would charm the living shit out of everyone in America and the world on every fucking press appearance he goes on... And he is there... On your roster... As midcard comedy relief (Albeit amazing comedy relief because he's an INCREDIBLE FUCKING PERFORMER).

And you're looking to Baron Corbin to put asses in the seats.

Jesus fucking Christ

Mr. Nerfect
09-02-2017, 05:53 AM
If you take Baron Corbin and put him in the Atttiude era, there's no way he gets much investment. He'd be in DOA and probably suck pretty hard, not looking that good physically, eventually being paid hundreds of thousands by WCW to not do anything.

Mr. Nerfect
09-02-2017, 05:54 AM
Johnny Curtis would have been in a Chris Jericho '98 spot, where he would be amazing but the big WCW stars would be threatened by him, so they'd fuck with his push, only for him to jump to the WWF, where he'd be booked with HHH to try and make Hunter look cool.

#BROKEN Hasney
09-02-2017, 01:29 PM
Observer's Meltzer hinted the mystery thing Corbin did derailing his big push was something that for anyone else not in Vince's graces would have been fired for. Also hinted Vince still views him as a big future star.

He's waiting on more sources to confirm the actual thing before he reveals it publicly.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DIq1YzpXcAI6LFQ.jpg

Not posting this on the front page as it's totes unverified, but Mike Johnson on PWInsider Elites section said that the Corbin situation is about something he did in a big talent meeting.

There was a talent meeting about CTE with Maroon, Corbin said as a former american football player he knew about CTE, and ridiculed what Maroon was saying about it in front of everyone.

Meltz said if anyone else had done it they would have been fired.

Cool King
09-02-2017, 04:26 PM
Also, lol at photoshopped hairline

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DIgtkcrXkAICrBc.jpg:large

Bloody hell.

Cool King
09-02-2017, 04:31 PM
I don't get why they won't just let him cut his string hair short.

He'd look much less like a paedo if he did.

#1-norm-fan
09-02-2017, 04:38 PM
I really wanna know how many of those they have sold. Like... is there actually a human being somewhere who owns a Baron Corbin plaque?

#1-norm-fan
09-02-2017, 04:40 PM
"Just sitting here putting in my credit card number so I can order this plaque commemorating Baron Corbin winning the Money in the Bank contract." - Some guy, possibly

Cool King
09-02-2017, 04:42 PM
Maybe his dad?

XL
09-02-2017, 04:44 PM
I don't get why they won't just let him cut his string hair short.

He'd look much less like a paedo if he did.

Gotta get that paedo heat.

Cool King
09-02-2017, 04:48 PM
Gotta get that paedo heat.

Just read "that paedo heat" in the same way as "Latino Heat" from Eddie Guerrero's theme.

XL
09-02-2017, 05:09 PM
Yep. Me too as soon as I wrote it.

XL
09-02-2017, 05:10 PM
Instead of a low rider he'd come out in a panel van. Still have the hydraulics of course.