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Emperor Smeat
09-01-2017, 08:02 PM
JBL announced he's stepping down as one of the announcers for Smackdown but won't be entirely leaving the WWE.

Reason related to his non-WWE projects.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">After much consideration, I will be stepping back my weekly role as Smackdown Announcer to dedicate more (cont) <a href="https://t.co/An7zuYRFmV">https://t.co/An7zuYRFmV</a></p>&mdash; John Layfield (@JCLayfield) <a href="https://twitter.com/JCLayfield/status/903757644481126400">September 1, 2017</a></blockquote>
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After much consideration, I will be stepping back my weekly role as Smackdown Announcer to dedicate more continuous time on the work I have done since 2010 with at risk kids and communities. My new schedule will allow me to continue to be a part of the WWE family and also continue my work that I feel is the most important thing in my life. I will continue my 20+ year relationship with WWE and will appear on such marquee shows as Tribute to the Troops, WrestleMania, amongst others.

With the help of Beyond Sport, I founded Beyond Rugby Bermuda in 2010–which has been recognized as one of the world’s best charities for work with at risk, gang focused, youth intervention. Beyond Rugby Bermuda won the 2014 NACRA Fair Play Award out of 7,000 programs and 17 countries for its work with at risk kids. I was named as a Beyond Sport Global Ambassador–an organization backed by all major sports leagues in the U.S.

I’m proud to say that in addition to being Smackdown’s longest reigning WWE Champion, I inspired WWE’s Tribute to the Troops over 10 years ago. WWE has been my partner in all my philanthropic works and this new deal with WWE ensures that will continue. WWE has made my dreams come true and helped me become a global name. And now, WWE is helping me use that name to make a difference.

Ol Dirty Dastard
09-01-2017, 08:07 PM
thank god, he fucking sucks

#1-norm-fan
09-01-2017, 08:16 PM
http://www.wrestlinginc.com/wi/images/pics/mauro-ranallo.jpg

Lock Jaw
09-01-2017, 08:26 PM
What a class act and a great guy :y:

Sorry to see him go

Bad News Gertner
09-01-2017, 08:36 PM
Very sad when a legend walks away. Showed true class unlike David Crockett Jr a.k.a Mauro

Ol Dirty Dastard
09-01-2017, 08:38 PM
JBL is an interesting dude and one of the last of the old school dudes, he just stank sweaty balls as a commentator

Honestly after consideration over the Mauro thing I've decided not to care anymore, basig it off John's performance.

#1-norm-fan
09-01-2017, 08:38 PM
More time to sit at home and whack off to big, manly European chicks. Good for him. #LivingTheDream

Ol Dirty Dastard
09-01-2017, 08:39 PM
LOL fuck yeah

Mr. Nerfect
09-01-2017, 09:44 PM
Yay! JBL is both a piece of shit and a shitty announcer. It will probably just be Phillips & Saxton to keep the spot warm for JBL. It might allow Saxton a chance to show some personality, but more than likely it will just feel like Velocity.

SlickyTrickyDamon
09-02-2017, 12:35 AM
Very sad when a legend walks away. Showed true class unlike David Crockett Jr a.k.a Mauro

Whip him! Whip him like a daaawg!

DAMN iNATOR
09-02-2017, 01:22 AM
j_xjBAd5G84

DAMN iNATOR
09-02-2017, 01:24 AM
Yay! JBL is both a piece of shit and a shitty announcer. It will probably just be Phillips & Saxton to keep the spot warm for JBL. It might allow Saxton a chance to show some personality, but more than likely it will just feel like Velocity.

Give Mauro back his rightful Tuesday 🌃 spot, dammit! :rant::mad:

mike adamle
09-02-2017, 08:37 AM
Mauro sucks. He almost ruined the Mayweather-McGregor fight.

Destor
09-02-2017, 09:57 AM
JBL and Mauro are the only two good commentators they have.

mike adamle
09-02-2017, 10:00 AM
Michael Cole is a legend. I loved JBL's first commentary run, this one sucked.

Ol Dirty Dastard
09-02-2017, 10:18 AM
Michael Cole is where good storytelling goes to die. As inauthentic as they come.

Destor
09-02-2017, 10:30 AM
Cole only watches the mainevents. Everything else he's just selling the main. Half the reason no one gets over on his watch

Nicky Fives
09-02-2017, 11:03 AM
As long as Percy Watson doesn't replace him, I'll be fine...

Bad News Gertner
09-02-2017, 11:15 AM
Percy Watson is too busy becoming the second biggest face in the company

erickman
09-02-2017, 11:16 AM
wonder if they can get the pope he just left impact

Bad News Gertner
09-02-2017, 11:17 AM
Michael Cole is where good storytelling goes to die. As inauthentic as they come.

I just re-watched the 1980 WWF Showdown at the Shea where Foley and Cole did commentary over the show and Cole was entertaining as hell. You can tell Vince wasn't producing what Foley and Cole were doing. Imagine fucking that

Bad News Gertner
09-02-2017, 11:17 AM
wonder if they can get the pope he just left impact

Dear God no.

mike adamle
09-02-2017, 11:19 AM
I remember really enjoying Mick Foley during his very short run as commentator in early 2008. Hopefully he could come back and bring the dick flip to the WWE.

mike adamle
09-02-2017, 11:19 AM
http://www.wrestlinginc.com/wi/images/pics/mauro-ranallo.jpg

What a disrespectful twat. Jerry is clearly trying to talk to him and he's just starring right passed him. How do people actually like this guy?

Cool King
09-02-2017, 11:20 AM
Otunga will probably return to SmackDown to replace JBL, which means Booker T would remain on Raw.

Cool King
09-02-2017, 11:20 AM
Or Booker could replace JBL and Otunga go to Raw, like he was supposed to back in April.

Bad News Gertner
09-02-2017, 11:21 AM
Foley was hilarious with some of his inside quips. Lol Jimmy Wang Yang make his first appearence after being suspended for cocaine and Foley goes "Jimmy Wang Yang. He looks well rested ". Haha!

Shisen Kopf
09-02-2017, 02:33 PM
JBL should go down to Mexico to call the Lucha matches.

Ol Dirty Dastard
09-02-2017, 02:51 PM
Vince wants everyone to commentate like him aka a used car salesman @Gertner

Cool King
09-02-2017, 03:30 PM
I know the perfect man for the job then.

https://s26.postimg.org/j9fmdauah/25551_-_Malibu_Al_Southpaw_Regional_Wrestling_aj.png

#1-norm-fan
09-02-2017, 03:30 PM
Fucking loved Vince as an announcer.

Emperor Smeat
09-02-2017, 05:52 PM
Turns out the reason JBL is stepping down is due to his contract expiring soon and not willing to sign a new one unless they gave him the terms he wanted.

Sources told us back in May that Layfield informed WWE he wouldn’t be re-signing under the same terms when his deal expired, but we we’re unable to confirm until now. Unclear what his reasoning was, but that was shortly after he was targeted in reports as the cause for Mauro Ranallo‘s WWE exit.

slik
09-02-2017, 06:17 PM
I wish WWE would have publicly fired and shamed him instead.

:(

A Sad Day for Justice.

slik
09-02-2017, 06:19 PM
^^^

joking btw

Simple Fan
09-02-2017, 06:42 PM
JBL is one of the best announcers they have so him leaving hurts the Smackdown crew. Phillips is alright but Saxton is awful and plays a pussy. Wouldn't be opposed to Mauro returning but him being a bitch I just don't like him as much as before.

Ol Dirty Dastard
09-02-2017, 09:03 PM
Fucking loved Vince as an announcer.

I mean he is hilarious but not how announcers should mould themselves

Mr. Nerfect
09-02-2017, 09:44 PM
Michael Cole is where good storytelling goes to die. As inauthentic as they come.

"For the love of Mankind!"

Mr. Nerfect
09-02-2017, 09:44 PM
I mean he is hilarious but not how announcers should mould themselves

Only Vince can do Vince.

Mr. Nerfect
09-02-2017, 09:45 PM
Now is the time for either Mark Henry or Christian to rise to commentary greatness.

Lock Jaw
09-02-2017, 10:02 PM
Then Christian can run afoul of some heel who drags him out of retirement, and then Christian goes on to unify the WWE and Universal Title at Wrestlemania!!

mike adamle
09-02-2017, 10:36 PM
I liked Christian when he did guest announcing in his last stint, wouldn't mind him. They need a name on their announce team.

Mr. Nerfect
09-03-2017, 01:59 AM
Tom Phillips and Christian to do commentary on their own. Byron Saxton can replace Booker T on RAW.

Bad News Gertner
09-03-2017, 09:01 AM
Then Christian can run afoul of some heel who drags him out of retirement, and then Christian goes on to unify the WWE and Universal Title at Wrestlemania!!

And then Curt Hawkins ends his losing streak by beating Christian clean on Raw

Stickman
09-03-2017, 11:38 AM
Hopefully Michael Cole is next.

Swiss Ultimate
09-03-2017, 11:44 AM
WISH HIM THE BEST IN HIS FUTURE ENDEAVORS.

FakeLaser
09-03-2017, 07:04 PM
Sounds to me like someone is quietly getting pushed out now that the dust has settled.

#1-norm-fan
09-03-2017, 07:09 PM
It'll be a while before Mauro ends up back on Smackdown. Gotta try to make it look like he isn't there already for other reasons.

Emperor Smeat
09-03-2017, 07:15 PM
Doubt Mauro ever goes back to Smackdown (or RAW) without Triple H putting in similar strict restrictions to those who caused him problems. JBL wasn't allowed to be at the PC nor arenas on the days Mauro was there.

Wasn't just JBL who was bullying him since Vince and Kevin Dunn were also reported to have played a big role in Mauro's previous mental problems. At least one of those two are always at shows and Dunn's untouchable till Vince is gone.

#1-norm-fan
09-03-2017, 07:17 PM
lol Can't imagine Kevin Dunn being dumb enough to try to bully anyone.

Bad News Gertner
09-03-2017, 07:19 PM
JBL didn't bully Mauro according to Mauro.

Lock Jaw
09-03-2017, 07:31 PM
JBL didn't bully Mauro according to Mauro.

Who are you gonna trust to know better, though? The actual person involved, or "wrestling journalists"?

Bad News Gertner
09-03-2017, 08:18 PM
Fake dirt sheetz spreading rumours about the Wrestling God. Makes me sick!

Bad News Gertner
09-03-2017, 08:19 PM
I'm still waiting for all of you to apologise to JBL

mike adamle
09-03-2017, 08:38 PM
Smelly Meatball especially trying to pass it off as fact that JBL bullied Mauro (along with Kevin Dunn and fucking Vince McMahon lol) Just because Dave Meltzer reported it doesn't make it fact, I'm sorry to inform you. Mauro himself has said that's not what happened...

Emperor Smeat
09-03-2017, 08:41 PM
Smelly Meatball especially trying to pass it off as fact that JBL bullied Mauro (along with Kevin Dunn and fucking Vince McMahon lol) Just because Dave Meltzer reported it doesn't make it fact, I'm sorry to inform you.

:roll:

Wasn't just Meltzer reporting about it or giving past stories about JBL's antics but continue being a twat since you seem to enjoy being one on these forums.

mike adamle
09-03-2017, 09:13 PM
You seem to be missing the point that MAURO said MAURO was not bullied by JBL... did any of those past antics involve MAURO?

Swiss Ultimate
09-03-2017, 09:13 PM
I'm still waiting for all of you to apologise to JBL

JBL HAS HELPED MORE WRESTLERS AND GIVEN MORE TO WRESTLING THAN CM PUNK.

Emperor Smeat
09-03-2017, 09:44 PM
You seem to be missing the point that MAURO said MAURO was not bullied by JBL... did any of those past antics involve MAURO?

You also seem to be missing the point that Mauro signed a non-disparagement agreement and those close to him have stated him making the statement was just to get the whole ordeal over so he could resume work once he recovered.

mike adamle
09-03-2017, 09:58 PM
So who are "those close to him" that have said this? Has Mauro said this? Did he say any of it before he signed this so called agreement? I don't think so. What I do recall is Mauro saying JBL did nothing to Mauro. Also LOL at needing "recovery time" over allegedly being picked on. Give me a fucking break. And lol at Smeat neg repping this instead of having an actual answer. Very childish.

#1-norm-fan
09-03-2017, 10:28 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Bart Gunn knocks out JBL <a href="https://t.co/cgDT8itZDY">pic.twitter.com/cgDT8itZDY</a></p>&mdash; Best Wrestling Pops (@WrestlingScenes) <a href="https://twitter.com/WrestlingScenes/status/851192608550473729">April 9, 2017</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Loved it when it first happened. Love it even more now.�� <a href="https://t.co/IcfLAisFhh">https://t.co/IcfLAisFhh</a></p>&mdash; Mauro Ranallo (@mauroranallo) <a href="https://twitter.com/mauroranallo/status/851526393699590144">April 10, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Bad News Gertner
09-04-2017, 12:01 AM
Mauro could learn some class from JBL.

Destor
09-04-2017, 12:15 AM
Sleeping on the job isnt very classy

Ol Dirty Dastard
09-04-2017, 12:32 AM
getting slept on the job more apt

Mr. Nerfect
09-04-2017, 03:32 AM
Mauro is a professional wrestling commentator. Let him call the professional wrestling brand: NXT.

mike adamle
09-04-2017, 11:33 AM
Imagine if Jim Cornette was still working backstage. He'd bully Mauro to the point where he cried.

mike adamle
09-04-2017, 11:34 AM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Bart Gunn knocks out JBL <a href="https://t.co/cgDT8itZDY">pic.twitter.com/cgDT8itZDY</a></p>&mdash; Best Wrestling Pops (@WrestlingScenes) <a href="https://twitter.com/WrestlingScenes/status/851192608550473729">April 9, 2017</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Loved it when it first happened. Love it even more now.�� <a href="https://t.co/IcfLAisFhh">https://t.co/IcfLAisFhh</a></p>&mdash; Mauro Ranallo (@mauroranallo) <a href="https://twitter.com/mauroranallo/status/851526393699590144">April 10, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Does it say here that he was bullied? He could easily be playing up the face/heel dynamic there and not mean anything by it.

mike adamle
09-04-2017, 11:35 AM
You also seem to be missing the point that Mauro signed a non-disparagement agreement and those close to him have stated him making the statement was just to get the whole ordeal over so he could resume work once he recovered.

From the lack of response I'm guessing you couldn't find out who "those close to him" that said that were?

Theo Dious
09-04-2017, 01:56 PM
From the lack of response I'm guessing you couldn't find out who "those close to him" that said that were?

It was on the Internet so it must be true.

Moose Knuckle
09-04-2017, 02:01 PM
I personally think the whole Mauro-JBL thing was blown way out of proportion, hence why it just quietly went away.

owenbrown
09-04-2017, 02:15 PM
Corey Graves joining Smackdown Live

WWE BROADCASTING TEAM CHANGES POST-JBL ANNOUNCED
By Mike Johnson on 2017-09-04 12:39:00
WWE announced this afternoon that Corey Graves would be joining Tom Phillips and Byron Saxton on the Smackdown announcing team. They did not specify if this means Graves would be leaving the Raw team, which currently consists of himself, Michael Cole and Booker T.

Graves, however, will be leaving 205 Live and Main Event. Former ROH champion Nigel McGuinness, who is already announcing the WWE NXT broadcasts, will be replacing Graves on those series.

Lock Jaw
09-04-2017, 02:30 PM
Sweet..... Corey Graves and Tom Phillips have good chemistry.

KIRA
09-04-2017, 03:11 PM
Yay I no longer have to hear JBLS fake enthusiasm.
Much prefer Graves Dead pan seriousness.

#1-norm-fan
09-04-2017, 03:16 PM
You seem to be missing the point that MAURO said MAURO was not bullied by JBL...

Wait... Did Mauro actually say this?

Swiss Ultimate
09-04-2017, 03:22 PM
APA WAS A GOOD TAG TEAM.

Lock Jaw
09-04-2017, 04:07 PM
Wait... Did Mauro actually say this?

I don't remember if he said that JBL didn't bully him or just that JBL didn't cause his breakdown.

#1-norm-fan
09-04-2017, 04:16 PM
The only thing I remember him saying about the situation was that JBL wasn't the reason he left WWE.

Swiss Ultimate
09-04-2017, 04:27 PM
JBL MADE THE MIZ INTO A STAR.

Emperor Smeat
09-04-2017, 07:43 PM
From the lack of response I'm guessing you couldn't find out who "those close to him" that said that were?

While JBL has said he is innocent of any bullying and Mauro Ranallo said him leaving has nothing to do with JBL, former UFC champion Bas Rutten has made it clear that he knows otherwise and has called out JBL on Twitter.

“I have a bone to pick with you regarding strong arming my boy, Mauro Ranallo. Let’s have a man to man discussion, Johnny.”
http://www.inquisitr.com/4182175/wwe-news-mauro-ranallo-return-to-wwe-possibly-in-the-works-despite-jbl-bullying-allegations/

Rutten is Mauro's close friend and the one of the people who revealed what happened to cause Mauro's medical issue at the time.

Evil Vito
09-04-2017, 07:50 PM
So is Graves doing both shows now? On joint brand PPVs is he gonna have to sprint up and down the ramp whenever there's a match from a different brand?

Bad News Gertner
09-04-2017, 08:50 PM
Known bullshitter Bas Rutten

mike adamle
09-04-2017, 09:13 PM
Yeah Rutten is clearly just playing kayfabe there... and not once did he mention JBL bullied Mauro or that Mauro made a statement to get things over with... he just vaguely claimed he wanted to talk to JBL about strong arming "his boy." Maybe JBL stiffed his kid on an autograph. If this is all you have to back up your claim your argument is very thin.

Simple Fan
09-05-2017, 09:57 AM
The fact that a grown man can cry about bullying is hilarious to me. Like how does a grown ass man get bullied, I just don't understand. Mauro is a bitch and got lucky someone in WWE felt bad for him and gave him a "less stressful" position. Lost all respect for Mauro after that happened and he used to be a favorite of mine but dude is clearly a pussy. Wish JBL the best and I'll miss him on Smackdown, Graves is probably the best option they had, Otunga still hasn't returned to Raw, I wonder if once he returns they leave Booker on Raw as well so Corey isn't pulling double duty.

Mr. Nerfect
09-06-2017, 06:39 PM
Lol, whenever mental health comes up, TPWW again proves that a lot of its members are giant pieces of shit.

Sixx
09-11-2017, 06:37 AM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Bart Gunn knocks out JBL <a href="https://t.co/cgDT8itZDY">pic.twitter.com/cgDT8itZDY</a></p>&mdash; Best Wrestling Pops (@WrestlingScenes) <a href="https://twitter.com/WrestlingScenes/status/851192608550473729">April 9, 2017</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Loved it when it first happened. Love it even more now.�� <a href="https://t.co/IcfLAisFhh">https://t.co/IcfLAisFhh</a></p>&mdash; Mauro Ranallo (@mauroranallo) <a href="https://twitter.com/mauroranallo/status/851526393699590144">April 10, 2017</a></blockquote>
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That was such a sad tourney. Look at them swinging like high school kids.

Juan
09-11-2017, 09:48 AM
Yeah Rutten is clearly just playing kayfabe there... and not once did he mention JBL bullied Mauro or that Mauro made a statement to get things over with... he just vaguely claimed he wanted to talk to JBL about strong arming "his boy." Maybe JBL stiffed his kid on an autograph. If this is all you have to back up your claim your argument is very thin.

The fact that a grown man can cry about bullying is hilarious to me. Like how does a grown ass man get bullied, I just don't understand. Mauro is a bitch and got lucky someone in WWE felt bad for him and gave him a "less stressful" position. Lost all respect for Mauro after that happened and he used to be a favorite of mine but dude is clearly a pussy.

One of you is being ignorant on purpose and the other is just plain stupid.

Simple Fan
09-11-2017, 09:59 AM
No Mauro is just a pussy, no excuse for a grown ass man to cry about being bullied.

Evil Vito
09-11-2017, 11:39 AM
Methinks Simple Fan needs to do some research on bipolar disorder.

Sixx
09-11-2017, 11:43 AM
Well, he IS "simple".

Simple Fan
09-11-2017, 11:54 AM
Methinks Simple Fan needs to do some research on bipolar disorder.

I don't give a shit if he's bipolar or not he's still a grown man. Grown men shouldnt cry about being bullied and to make things worse he ran from the situation. In my eyes he's s pussy and I actually used to like the guy but lost all respect for him after that.

screech
09-11-2017, 12:55 PM
So mental illness just doesn't exist to you?

Simple Fan
09-11-2017, 02:39 PM
So mental illness just doesn't exist to you?

I don't think being bipolar is a mental illness if that's what you're asking.

Sixx
09-11-2017, 02:53 PM
I don't think being bipolar is a mental illness if that's what you're asking.

I mean, really?

It's like a textbook definition of a mental illness.

screech
09-11-2017, 02:57 PM
If being bipolar isn't a mental illness, then what is?

Simple Fan
09-11-2017, 03:02 PM
I just see it as an excuse to be the way they are. Same with alot of so called mental illnesses. Some psychologist just slapped a name on it and started selling medication to make a dime. I believe if my brother went to one they would throw a bipolar diagnosis on him but some medication isn't going to do anything for him, he just needs an ass kicking.

Simple Fan
09-11-2017, 03:04 PM
If being bipolar isn't a mental illness, then what is?

Autism

screech
09-11-2017, 03:05 PM
I just see it as an excuse to be the way they are. Same with alot of so called mental illnesses. Some psychologist just slapped a name on it and started selling medication to make a dime. I believe if my brother went to one they would throw a bipolar diagnosis on him but some medication isn't going to do anything for him, he just needs an ass kicking.

So mental illness pretty much doesn't exist to you, then.

Sixx
09-11-2017, 03:07 PM
I just see it as an excuse to be the way they are. Same with alot of so called mental illnesses. Some psychologist just slapped a name on it and started selling medication to make a dime. I believe if my brother went to one they would throw a bipolar diagnosis on him but some medication isn't going to do anything for him, he just needs an ass kicking.

Nah, dyslexia is an excuse for typing like an idiot, being bipolar is very real.

Simple Fan
09-11-2017, 03:17 PM
So mental illness pretty much doesn't exist to you, then.

No they exist but half of them are bologna in my opinion. To disagree with Sixx I think dyslexia is real along with autism and PTSD. Alot of mental disorders like bipolar, ADHD, OCD, eating disorders, and others are just excuses in my opinion to cover ones behavior.

TSI
09-11-2017, 03:21 PM
I don't think being bipolar is a mental illness if that's what you're asking.

My mom is bipolar and schizophrenic . She is sick enough where she doesn't have custody of her self. She lives in a group home. Believe me. Its a real illness. Watching her behavior change in real time will fuck with you the first couple of times. It changes like a light switch. Every day is a battle. I cant believe the balls of Mauro Ranallo to be so public in his battle with it, with assholes who have no idea what they are talking about belittling his illness. That's character, and strength that most will never have. JBL is the real pussy in this situation. It doesn't make him a tough guy giving shit to an announcer, whos not even "one of the boys". Im glad hes gone. Fuck him :wave:

Sixx
09-11-2017, 03:21 PM
Don't compare dyslexia to autism... Damn.

Simple Fan
09-11-2017, 03:23 PM
Don't compare dyslexia to autism... Damn.

When did I compare them? They are two totally different things but I think they are real unlike most mental disorders.

screech
09-11-2017, 03:26 PM
So dyslexia is as serious as autism, but OCD and bipolar disorder are fake.

Okay then.

screech
09-11-2017, 03:27 PM
By "as serious," I mean that you consider both of those to be real while discounting other disorders that are also quite serious.

Simple Fan
09-11-2017, 03:35 PM
My mom is bipolar and schizophrenic . She is sick enough where she doesn't have custody of her self. She lives in a group home. Believe me. Its a real illness. Watching her behavior change in real time will fuck with you the first couple of times. It changes like a light switch. Every day is a battle. I cant believe the balls of Mauro Ranallo to be so public in his battle with it, with assholes who have no idea what they are talking about belittling his illness. That's character, and strength that most will never have. JBL is the real pussy in this situation. It doesn't make him a tough guy giving shit to an announcer, whos not even "one of the boys". Im glad hes gone. Fuck him :wave:


I don't doubt the moods can change in light switch but I still don't see that as an illness. Sorry not trying to be rude but I just see it as a mood swong and not an illness. As I've said my brother would probably be considered bipolar if he got checked out as he can also go on some crazy mood swings. That's his personality though and not an illness. A mental illness should be something that affect that person to the point where they can't live a normal life and need assistance. Plenty of bipolar people out there that live a normal life, Mauro included.

Sixx
09-11-2017, 03:36 PM
When did I compare them? They are two totally different things but I think they are real unlike most mental disorders.

You did, when you said they are both equally real, while bipolar disorder is not.

Simple Fan
09-11-2017, 03:40 PM
By "as serious," I mean that you consider both of those to be real while discounting other disorders that are also quite serious.

Yes I believe those are two real disorders but autism is way more serious. As for the other disorders that I discredit I see them as more of a personality issue than a do an illness.

Simple Fan
09-11-2017, 03:42 PM
You did, when you said they are both equally real, while bipolar disorder is not.

Well I never said equally just that I thought they were both examples of a real mental illness.

TSI
09-11-2017, 03:43 PM
I don't doubt the moods can change in light switch but I still don't see that as an illness. Sorry not trying to be rude but I just see it as a mood swong and not an illness. As I've said my brother would probably be considered bipolar if he got checked out as he can also go on some crazy mood swings. That's his personality though and not an illness. A mental illness should be something that affect that person to the point where they can't live a normal life and need assistance. Plenty of bipolar people out there that live a normal life, Mauro included.

My mom doesn't live a normal life. Like I said, shes in a group home, and has a guardian. My family has tried many times to set her up to be on her own, and it fails every time. I've had her live with me many times, but Im no professional. Without assistance she would be homeless or worse.

screech
09-11-2017, 03:47 PM
Yes I believe those are two real disorders but autism is way more serious. As for the other disorders that I discredit I see them as more of a personality issue than a do an illness.

If you've never gotten your brother examined, how do you know he's not bipolar rather than it being "just his personality," though?

Sixx
09-11-2017, 03:49 PM
Simple Shrink

Simple Fan
09-11-2017, 03:53 PM
My mom doesn't live a normal life. Like I said, shes in a group home, and has a guardian. My family has tried many times to set her up to be on her own, and it fails every time. I've had her live with me many times, but Im no professional. Without assistance she would be homeless or worse.

Which is sad and I feel for you but still doesn't change my opinion. Thanks for contributing to the conversation and I don't mean to be rude but its of my opinion that bipolar is a fake diagnosis and I stand by it. You have brought good insight to the conversation and I respect that. I just go by my experiences with people with such disorders to form my opinion and therefore never meeting you mom, my opinion really cant be changed by her example.

Simple Fan
09-11-2017, 03:55 PM
If you've never gotten your brother examined, how do you know he's not bipolar rather than it being "just his personality," though?

It is just his personality, I said if he did get checked out they would probably throw that diagnosis on him which I would see as a phony diagnosis.

Destor
09-11-2017, 03:56 PM
Every person in my family has bipolar disorder. I agree with Fan.

Destor
09-11-2017, 03:56 PM
I think the average person uses their disabilities as excuses for being weak poeple.

Big Vic
09-11-2017, 04:00 PM
Maro has the right to quit any job he wants. He didn't blast anyone after he quit as far as I recall. Not sure why he would get hate now.

Destor
09-11-2017, 04:05 PM
Maro has the right to quit any job he wants. He didn't blast anyone after he quit as far as I recall. Not sure why he would get hate now.
QFT

Sixx
09-11-2017, 04:09 PM
Every person in my family has bipolar disorder. I agree with Fan.

Breakin' my heart.

Destor
09-11-2017, 04:10 PM
IM SORRY. I deal with it every day and people just use it as a crutch to not try. "I cant" is their motto. They could, I do...frustrating.

Simple Fan
09-11-2017, 04:23 PM
Maro has the right to quit any job he wants. He didn't blast anyone after he quit as far as I recall. Not sure why he would get hate now.

I don't disagree but I would have rather him blasted JBL instead of having his friends do it while he blamed it on his "mental illness". I understand why he didn't as he probably would have never worked in WWE again if he did blast JBL.

Big Vic
09-11-2017, 04:26 PM
Did his friends do it? The only JBL stories that I remember coming out around that time were from Justin Roberts.

Simple Fan
09-11-2017, 04:34 PM
Well are Justin Roberts and Maro friends? Any way his twitter followers and people in the business that like Maro definitely did.

Big Vic
09-11-2017, 04:44 PM
Are they friends? I don't think they worked in the WWE at the same time.

Can't blame him for what his twitter followers do like the LAME-stream media does to trump.

Big Vic
09-11-2017, 04:45 PM
(shuddering at my last sentence)

Simple Fan
09-11-2017, 04:47 PM
No argument there but I still lost alot of respect for Maro after the situation. Of course involving JBL did him no favors with me as JBL is one of my favorite WWE title reigns of all time and a Wrestling God.

TSI
09-11-2017, 04:50 PM
It is just his personality, I said if he did get checked out they would probably throw that diagnosis on him which I would see as a phony diagnosis.

Maybe it would be, but I just don't understand how you can say every one with that diagnosis is phony. I don't disagree that people get misdiagnosed all the time. Mental Illness isn't easy, but that doesn't mean everyone diagnosed with bipolar disorder is faking or they are just throwing a blanket treatment. Ive spent my whole life around this illness. Visiting group homes and been inside mental hospitals seeing my mom. Its real.

mike adamle
09-11-2017, 05:46 PM
I think Noid might be bipolar.

Lock Jaw
09-11-2017, 07:27 PM
Maybe it would be, but I just don't understand how you can say every one with that diagnosis is phony. I don't disagree that people get misdiagnosed all the time. Mental Illness isn't easy, but that doesn't mean everyone diagnosed with bipolar disorder is faking or they are just throwing a blanket treatment. Ive spent my whole life around this illness. Visiting group homes and been inside mental hospitals seeing my mom. Its real.

FAKE NEWS

IN OTHER FAKE NEWS, ALL 100 DOLLAR BILLS ARE PHONY.

In my personal experience, 100 dollar bills are counterfeit. So, even though there are plenty of examples of people using 100 dollar bills, in my opinion derived from my personal experience they are actually all counterfeit. Whenever I see a 100 dollar bill, I immediately rip it in half.

Simple Fan
09-11-2017, 08:08 PM
Maybe it would be, but I just don't understand how you can say every one with that diagnosis is phony. I don't disagree that people get misdiagnosed all the time. Mental Illness isn't easy, but that doesn't mean everyone diagnosed with bipolar disorder is faking or they are just throwing a blanket treatment. Ive spent my whole life around this illness. Visiting group homes and been inside mental hospitals seeing my mom. Its real.

Oh I don't think they are faking it either. It's just who they are, not an illness. The bipolar diagnosis among others is an excuse for that behavior and a money grab for the medical profession in my opinion. If you've dealt with I you whole life then your family has probably spent alot of money on getting your mother help and I hope it's been worth it. Still think alot of it has to do with the individual and their willingness to change over anything.

Mr. Nerfect
09-11-2017, 09:20 PM
I tried to bite my tongue, but with Corey Graves now coming over to SmackDown, can we please just end this fucking brand split?

mike adamle
09-11-2017, 09:32 PM
Now what's the big deal about an announcer being on both shows? Gives him the ability to be the voice of the WWE

Mr. Nerfect
09-11-2017, 09:34 PM
Exactly. The Voice of the WWE. The WWE. It's all WWE. Stop trying to make them two things when they aren't.

mike adamle
09-11-2017, 09:41 PM
They're different WWE shows under the same brand. Not hard to differentiate.

Lock Jaw
09-11-2017, 09:42 PM
Yeah, they aren't trying to pretend they are two different things.

It is like how other sports have divisions, but it is all still MLB/NHL/NBA/Whatever........

#1-norm-fan
09-11-2017, 09:46 PM
Aren't they supposed to be competing though? Having people on both brands doesn't make sense.

mike adamle
09-11-2017, 09:51 PM
Maybe during Survivor Series or when something is on the line but if they were constantly competing it'd get old quick. Just let em do their own thing on each show.

Destor
09-11-2017, 10:08 PM
This is the same way the brand split ended last time. More and more guys floating back and forth until it was meaningless and them they merged

Mr. Nerfect
09-11-2017, 10:08 PM
If there is no difference between them, then why the fuck are you doing it?

Lock Jaw
09-11-2017, 10:12 PM
A large roster of people to give spotlight/time to.

TSI
09-11-2017, 10:26 PM
If there is no difference between them, then why the fuck are you doing it?

exactly

#1-norm-fan
09-11-2017, 10:31 PM
This is the same way the brand split ended last time. More and more guys floating back and forth until it was meaningless and them they merged

Also, this.

Mr. Nerfect
09-12-2017, 12:07 AM
A large roster of people to give spotlight/time to.

This is more of a detriment than a positive. If talent like Curt Hawkins and Jinder Mahal weren't important to keep around in the cuts, then why is it so important to feature them now? I mean, it's good for them, on a personal level, but nothing is really helped by their presence. If anything, you have too many people trying to get over and the ultimate effect is that fewer people matter.

By splitting the roster, you immediately decrease the number of people that everyone on Raw is exposed to (ratings are usually hurt by the brand split), and and you impose a ceiling on just how much they are able to get over, since you not only have 50/50 booking, but you've also got two contenders for "best" as champions in respective divisions.

Mr. Nerfect
09-12-2017, 12:08 AM
This is the same way the brand split ended last time. More and more guys floating back and forth until it was meaningless and them they merged

It wouldn't surprise me if the actual split ends very soon and we're left with unified titles, except for the two "World" Titles which will remain separate for a few years for no given explanation.

#1-norm-fan
09-12-2017, 12:11 AM
It wouldn't surprise me if, after that, they split the rosters again a few years later.

Mr. Nerfect
09-12-2017, 12:14 AM
I'll give it 4 years max.

Big Vic
09-12-2017, 10:08 AM
Womens division should be on Raw Tag Division should be on SDL

Mr. Nerfect
09-13-2017, 02:43 AM
Within the paradigm of the brand split, I agree. Splitting the divisions leaves them very hollow on each show, and having the divisions spread across the shows gives you a reason to watch. I imagine that the reason they don't do this is because each show is constructed to have the same staples and format, so it would require work to change that.

You'd still have hot girls on SmackDown. Renee Young is doing her interviewer shtick there. JoJo could be swapped over for ring announcer. You can have valets and female managers there. They might stand out as personalities there. When it comes to the tag teams, you're only really moving over Ambrose & Rollins, Sheamus & Cesaro, The Hardy Boyz and Gallows & Anderson. And at least half of those teams aren't likely to be together for much longer.

TSI
09-14-2017, 03:17 PM
Within the paradigm of the brand split, I agree. Splitting the divisions leaves them very hollow on each show, and having the divisions spread across the shows gives you a reason to watch. I imagine that the reason they don't do this is because each show is constructed to have the same staples and format, so it would require work to change that.

You'd still have hot girls on SmackDown. Renee Young is doing her interviewer shtick there. JoJo could be swapped over for ring announcer. You can have valets and female managers there. They might stand out as personalities there. When it comes to the tag teams, you're only really moving over Ambrose & Rollins, Sheamus & Cesaro, The Hardy Boyz and Gallows & Anderson. And at least half of those teams aren't likely to be together for much longer.


That makes too much sense!! Stop it! It doesn't go with the corporate plan to do everything exactly the same

Mr. Nerfect
09-15-2017, 03:47 AM
Gentrification means that everything makes money, right?