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Swiss Ultimate
09-18-2017, 01:45 PM
WHAT IS THE WORST MATCH SPOT THAT YOU REMEMBER A WRESTLER DOING ROUTINELY.

FOR ME IT WAS RIKISHI RUBBING HIS ASS ON PEOPLE FOLLOWED CLOSELY BY THE WORM.

Destor
09-18-2017, 01:45 PM
Chuckie T's grenade spot

Big Vic
09-18-2017, 01:59 PM
I hate this spot in 99% of big show matches:

http://uproxx.files.wordpress.com/2012/08/big-show-hits-the-post.jpg?quality=100&w=650&h=409

Destor
09-18-2017, 02:00 PM
easy way to feed hope with out having to bump haha

Jari
09-18-2017, 02:10 PM
I have come to loath the Superkick and Suicide Dive in recent years because of how routine they are.

Otherwise the spot when Dolph Ziggler's music hits.

Big Vic
09-18-2017, 02:14 PM
Ugh Superkick......Big E was hit with 5 Super kicks on SDL and still won the tag match.

Stickman
09-18-2017, 03:56 PM
Along with the Superkick, the DDT used to mean something...

Destor
09-18-2017, 03:57 PM
Outside of the indies though atleast tjose have become rare

Big Vic
09-18-2017, 04:11 PM
Outside of the indies though atleast tjose have become rare
Did you See how many Superkicks Big E was hit with last week?

Destor
09-18-2017, 04:13 PM
Did you See how many Superkicks Big E was hit with last week?
I dont watch the weekly shows...I was reffering to the DDT tho...

KIRA
09-18-2017, 04:29 PM
Natties body scissor spot annoys the hell outta me because nobody ever thinks about restraining her arms so that she doesn't use them to turn around and punch them in the face.

Stickman
09-18-2017, 04:53 PM
Oh, I find the worst regular spot is when people easily get out of a finisher submission. The crawling for the ropes thing annoys me. I don't mind if you are close, but when you crawl halfway across thing ring to reach the ropes the submission is pretty much loosely applied. Natties sharshooter is great when its the end but when the opponent is going to reach the ropes she hardly even has it applied. In my day a submission finisher meant something. Just think, if at some point Ronda Rousey does become a wwe superstar her finisher will be her armbar. Well, it will look stupid when everyone crawls to the ropes when in reality she taps bitches out wih it.

I love how Orton has protected the RKO finisher so much that nobody kicks out. Why can't talent prot ct their finishers, especially submissions?

Bad News Gertner
09-18-2017, 05:14 PM
The indie stand off

TSI
09-18-2017, 05:21 PM
i dont like the top rope cross body to AA that Cena does with everyone now. It was cool the first time. Im also not a fan of everyone doing a super kick. That move used to finish careers, now its a kick out at 2.

#1-norm-fan
09-18-2017, 05:58 PM
Not a liver spot... Not your dog spot...

Maluco
09-18-2017, 06:57 PM
Cartwheel, back flip etc... Into elbow in the corner. Usually ends up two feet too short and the person has to run backwards to hit the elbow at snails pace.

owenbrown
09-18-2017, 06:58 PM
Why are you shouting at us, Swiss?

Emperor Smeat
09-18-2017, 07:08 PM
The roll-up in general.

Majority of the time it just ends up being a very lazy and anti-climatic way to end matches at least in the WWE and their Women's division as the biggest offender.

Lock Jaw
09-18-2017, 07:14 PM
Naomi's rapid kicks.

Please stop.

Mr. Nerfect
09-18-2017, 07:37 PM
I hate the rapid kicks too, but seeing you post made me think of something (please don't hate me, Lock Jaw): I used to REALLY hate Christian's slingshot punch to the outside. Why would you waste all that energy just to punch someone in the face, Christian? This pains me, because Christian is the most underrated entertainer of all-time.

Savio
09-18-2017, 07:50 PM
^Her kicks and shane's punches are awful.

Lock Jaw
09-18-2017, 07:55 PM
Some of her non-rapid kicks are good...... just the rapid fire is terrible, especially when Carmella "sells" them...........

DaveWadding
09-18-2017, 10:25 PM
Randy Orton's rope DDT

Tom Guycott
09-18-2017, 10:50 PM
Not a liver spot... Not your dog spot...

Average speed. Average intelligence. Average quickness. Average carpentry skills...

Tom Guycott
09-18-2017, 10:51 PM
Naomi's rapid kicks.

Please stop.

^Her kicks and shane's punches are awful.

But for some reason, both bother me less than Road Dogg's.

Anybody Thrilla
09-20-2017, 03:01 PM
Ambrose rebound clothesline

Big Vic
09-20-2017, 03:09 PM
Continuing to punch Hogan when he's hulking up.

Rammsteinmad
09-20-2017, 03:15 PM
Anything that's generally a signature spot where you'd think the opponent should be wise enough and have the wherewithal to know what's coming.

Cena's five moves of doom. Dean Ambrose when he falls into the ropes and comes back with a clothesline. The punching Hogan thing mentioned above, followed by the big boot.

Helmsphere
09-20-2017, 03:21 PM
R Truths Comeback move, where he hits punches, the opponent goes to swing and he does his split, then hits the ropes and hits that assanine spinning forearm thingie.

KIRA
09-20-2017, 03:33 PM
Anything that's generally a signature spot where you'd think the opponent should be wise enough and have the wherewithal to know what's coming.

Cena's five moves of doom. Dean Ambrose when he falls into the ropes and comes back with a clothesline. The punching Hogan thing mentioned above, followed by the big boot.

I think CM Punk countered the 5 moves of doom once that said it would actually help suspension of belief if more people avoided or countered when Cena does that.

Big Vic
09-20-2017, 03:38 PM
I have a memory of Jericho kicking hogan in the balls while he was hulking up.

Anybody Thrilla
09-20-2017, 03:46 PM
Anything that's generally a signature spot where you'd think the opponent should be wise enough and have the wherewithal to know what's coming.

Cena's five moves of doom. Dean Ambrose when he falls into the ropes and comes back with a clothesline. The punching Hogan thing mentioned above, followed by the big boot.

The Ambrose thing was mentioned above too :fu:

A.J.K
09-20-2017, 08:21 PM
Continuing to punch Hogan when he's hulking up.

Or Warrior when he was doing his own firing up. When Hogan Hulked up the match was about to end.

Sepholio
09-22-2017, 12:28 AM
When any wrestler is suddenly is no longer phased by their opponents offense. Doesn't matter who it is, they've been getting 'wrecked' and selling moves the whole match and then suddenly ANGRY LOOK NOTHING YOU DO HURTS ME RRRRAAAAWWWWRRRRR.

Sixx
09-22-2017, 07:18 AM
Just hate people constantly kicking out of finishers. This used to be special, now they don't mean shit.

Bad News Gertner
09-22-2017, 07:26 AM
The trying to Powerbomb Kidman spot

Schlomey
09-22-2017, 08:12 AM
pretty much every move in Rey Mysterio's aresenol the last few years of his WWE run. He got really bland especially being limited when working with the big men. One specific move would be that bounce off the top rope into a whoopee cushion thing.

Sixx
09-22-2017, 08:15 AM
619 is a really stupid fucking move.

Schlomey
09-22-2017, 08:18 AM
i agree. People do huge splashes from the top rope who weigh 3 times his amount yet for years we are to believe that if he falls (not even jumps!) from the rope onto a guy its gonna pin him. Ick.

Sixx
09-22-2017, 08:26 AM
Where is Mysterio anyway?

Schlomey
09-22-2017, 08:30 AM
lucha underground last I heard.

Gerard
09-22-2017, 10:15 AM
Where is Mysterio anyway?

Currently, half way across the Rio Grande.

Gerard
09-22-2017, 03:10 PM
There's a ton of shit if you look at it logically that can be classed as outright stupid, why do people bounce off the ropes? Someone grabs their hand and "throws them", they then take off running towards the ropes, turn so their back hits the ropes and then take off running back towards the opponent, and at no point can they stop themselves despite it being all their own doing. :?:

The slingshot, the old move where wrestler grabs opponents legs, falls backwards and this somehow catapults the opponent up and over, instead of both wrestlers ending up flat on their backs, as someone falling back holding your legs is not going to send you flying across a ring.

As mentioned ambrose's middle rope gimmick that has all the speed of an arthritic turtle, yet always manages to catch out the opponent who's looking right at him.

Old School, an arm wringer is so painful the opponent dare not move to interrupt the guy tap dancing across the top rope.

Stratusfaction, the mere fact the opponent visibly lifts her up to do this just says it all.

That's just a few of the really obvious ones, if you want to get really logical about it probably 99% of what happens in a wrestling ring makes no sense.

Stickman
09-22-2017, 03:32 PM
There's a ton of shit if you look at it logically that can be classed as outright stupid, why do people bounce off the ropes? Someone grabs their hand and "throws them", they then take off running towards the ropes, turn so their back hits the ropes and then take off running back towards the opponent, and at no point can they stop themselves despite it being all their own doing. :?:

The slingshot, the old move where wrestler grabs opponents legs, falls backwards and this somehow catapults the opponent up and over, instead of both wrestlers ending up flat on their backs, as someone falling back holding your legs is not going to send you flying across a ring.

As mentioned ambrose's middle rope gimmick that has all the speed of an arthritic turtle, yet always manages to catch out the opponent who's looking right at him.

Old School, an arm wringer is so painful the opponent dare not move to interrupt the guy tap dancing across the top rope.

Stratusfaction, the mere fact the opponent visibly lifts her up to do this just says it all.

That's just a few of the really obvious ones, if you want to get really logical about it probably 99% of what happens in a wrestling ring makes no sense.

Going with this route, why is an opponents body completely straight and rigid on a verticle suplex or piledriver (rip)?

Gerard
09-22-2017, 05:57 PM
Going with this route, why is an opponents body completely straight and rigid on a verticle suplex or piledriver (rip)?

Yup, the thought of struggling to get out of the move never occurred to them :p

Ladder matches really make me roll my eyes with the amount of shit that goes on in them, flip flopping everywhere but climbing a ladder shortly after is like climbing Everest naked. As slow as possible obviously as possible.

DAMN iNATOR
09-22-2017, 06:24 PM
Where is Mysterio anyway?

He had recently been in talks with WWE to possibly return soon, but it appears that won't be happening.

Sixx
09-22-2017, 06:25 PM
I hope not.

DAMN iNATOR
09-22-2017, 06:31 PM
I hope not.

LOL I'm with ya.

Gerard
09-22-2017, 07:13 PM
LOL I'm with ya.

Same here, they would get 2 matches out of him before he's out injured for another 12 months. Seemed to be an injury magnet in his last stint.

DAMN iNATOR
09-22-2017, 07:31 PM
I will say, however, I did quite enjoy his feud with Chavo.

Anybody Thrilla
09-24-2017, 01:40 PM
That stomp thing that ADR does where the opponent is in a tree of woe and they have to forcibly hold themselves up with the ropes while he appeals to the crowd with his finger circle whistle thing before stomping on their chest. So fucking stupid.

Lock Jaw
09-24-2017, 01:43 PM
Yeah, that move was so dumb. Whenever someone would actually counter it via.... y'know.... just not holding themselves up, it was like "Finally! Now why doesn't everybody do that?"

Sixx
09-24-2017, 02:47 PM
Wait, is there a video of that somewhere?

Gerard
09-24-2017, 03:30 PM
Wait, is there a video of that somewhere?

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Here's another one that comes to mind, test's pump handle slam. How many times did he actually fucking hit that move? Seemed like 99% of the time the opponent would just slide over his back to counter it. He used that for ages before seemingly coming to the conclusion it rarely ever worked before resorting to the big boot. :shifty:



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The stratusfacation, Stevie Wonder and Ray Charles both called bullshit on this move.

Jordan
09-24-2017, 03:40 PM
The roll-up in general.

Majority of the time it just ends up being a very lazy and anti-climatic way to end matches at least in the WWE and their Women's division as the biggest offender.

You have to see this if you feel that way. This is the disintegration of working at its best example. Watch Verne lock in this roll up, tell me it doesn't look like a legit way to end a match. The video is at the right spot when you click play.

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Sixx
09-24-2017, 04:17 PM
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Here's another one that comes to mind, test's pump handle slam. How many times did he actually fucking hit that move? Seemed like 99% of the time the opponent would just slide over his back to counter it. He used that for ages before seemingly coming to the conclusion it rarely ever worked before resorting to the big boot. :shifty:



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The stratusfacation, Stevie Wonder and Ray Charles both called bullshit on this move.

Wow, who the fuck came up with this stupid stomp shit? You can see Kofi climbing in order to get stomped on. Sad.

KIRA
09-24-2017, 04:32 PM
619 is a really stupid fucking move.

THANK YOU!

Anybody Thrilla
09-24-2017, 04:48 PM
Wow, who the fuck came up with this stupid stomp shit? You can see Kofi climbing in order to get stomped on. Sad.

That's R-Truth, asshole.

Sixx
09-24-2017, 04:51 PM
Yeah, I said black guy. Asshole.

mitch_h
09-24-2017, 11:58 PM
I noticed this in the Braun vs Brock match and I think it turns up often. I don't like how Brock had Braun in the kimura and Braun was selling it like he was in a sleeper hold or something, just like slowly collapsing to the mat. It feels like two guys just going through the motions instead of selling the actual move.

Destor
09-25-2017, 12:03 AM
The trying to Powerbomb Kidman spot

Any spot that requires your oponent to to something in order for you to initiate it. Kidmans counter. Ortons line, line, duck one powerslam. Hulking up.

Destor
09-25-2017, 12:17 AM
To the earlier the comment irish whips arent as illogical is Gerard made them out to be. Coming at it from the wrong perspective.

Whips are much lazier now but initially whips were pretty forceful. Enough that you would stagger a few steps for certain and likewise the ropes do shoot produce enough spring that you do come ouit a few steps.

So the logic is its not that i cant stop, its that its in my best interest to keep going.

When i hit the ropes i have momentum and you dont so this favors me if say im coming in with a shoulder tackle ora line or whatever. Letting me get a running start isnt a disadvantage. If i stopped i wpuld stagger and be venerable to be cut off witha blind side shot to the back.

But the actual work of it is yes i am voluntarily hitting the ropes because i like my odds.

Destor
09-25-2017, 12:19 AM
Not saying theyre realistic but there is*some* logic.

Just like the drop down had some originally and the leap frog did as well...but over time theyve been used so absurdly that theyve lost most of the logic tey had

Swiss Ultimate
09-26-2017, 07:24 PM
WHAT IF EVERYONE STOPPED USING THE IRISH WHIP?

Destor
09-26-2017, 07:41 PM
One of those things that i think every worker should do is work for a month without touching the ropes, they can become a crutch HOWEVER never using them again would be dumb. They add excitement and are accepted by the overwhelming majority

Swiss Ultimate
09-26-2017, 11:32 PM
I LIKE PEOPLE BOUNCING OFF THE ROPES, BUT MAYBE THEY COULD USE MORE BODY SLAMS INSTEAD OF WHIPS.

Vastardikai
09-26-2017, 11:46 PM
More "rest holds," but acting like they could actually end the match.

I would laugh my ass off if a match ended with a side headlock. Dude just passes out in it (which would actually happen if it's properly applied). People would shit all over it for the first week. Next week, side headlock, same result.

Third week, opponent is afraid of the headlock, actively tries to avoid it. This time, gets caught in a front facelock and passes out in it.

Tom Guycott
09-27-2017, 02:25 AM
619 is a really stupid fucking move.

Personally, I liked it better when it was just a rope dive feint (which *sometimes* led to an actual dive to follow- it wasn't always) and not an actual offensive kick to the face it became in WWE.

Anybody Thrilla
10-02-2017, 10:59 AM
Did I ever tell you guys about the WCW house show I was at in like 1999? I was in the 2nd row with some friends, and we had been yelling with the wrestlers all night, and they had been responding. It was awesome.

So Chris Benoit is wrestling Billy Kidman, and from the opening bell, I keep yelling to Benoit "DO NOT POWERBOMB KIDMAN! HE WILL FLIP OUT OF IT! DO NOT POWERBOMB HIM!".

The match goes on normally for a while, until Benoit sets Kidman up between his legs for a powerbomb. I yell out "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!".

Benoit looks directly at me and snarls before delivering a successful powerbomb that Kidman does not flip out of.

I know that spot was called for me.

Swiss Ultimate
10-02-2017, 04:19 PM
Did I ever tell you guys about the WCW house show I was at in like 1999? I was in the 2nd row with some friends, and we had been yelling with the wrestlers all night, and they had been responding. It was awesome.

So Chris Benoit is wrestling Billy Kidman, and from the opening bell, I keep yelling to Benoit "DO NOT POWERBOMB KIDMAN! HE WILL FLIP OUT OF IT! DO NOT POWERBOMB HIM!".

The match goes on normally for a while, until Benoit sets Kidman up between his legs for a powerbomb. I yell out "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!".

Benoit looks directly at me and snarls before delivering a successful powerbomb that Kidman does not flip out of.

I know that spot was called for me.


That's fucking hilarious.

Gerard
10-15-2017, 02:53 PM
Heres another one that comes to mind, that you used to see quite a bit but less so these days.

The other variation of the slingshot, where a wrestler on the apron of the ring holding onto the ropes somehow gets flipped head over heels into the ring because the opponent inside the ring pushed and pulled the ropes back and forth.
:-\:wtf:

Anybody Thrilla
10-15-2017, 03:01 PM
A lotta spring in those ropes, ya know.

Gerard
10-15-2017, 03:02 PM
A lotta spring in those ropes, ya know.

Would take their boots to be loaded with them as well. :lol:

Anybody Thrilla
10-15-2017, 03:38 PM
Lotta spring in those boots, ya know.

Lock Jaw
10-15-2017, 03:44 PM
Like when the springs in Cesaro' s boots malfunctioned and he jumped so high and hard into the ringpost after a slingshot that he broke his teeth.

Gerard
10-15-2017, 03:56 PM
Like when the springs in Cesaro' s boots malfunctioned and he jumped so high and hard into the ringpost after a slingshot that he broke his teeth.

His teeth actually got shoved 4mm or so up into his gums, didn't even think that was possible without crushing the root but apparently it is.

Stickman
10-15-2017, 05:32 PM
You don't see it much anymore but the abdominal stretch always bothered me because it obviously doesn't hurt since I have never seen it submit anyone.

Destor
10-15-2017, 05:35 PM
Not exactly on kopic but the styles clash. Low impact. Awkward set up. One of the worst move of all time.

Gerard
10-15-2017, 05:56 PM
Not exactly on kopic but the styles clash. Low impact. Awkward set up. One of the worst move of all time.

I never got the hard-on for that move either, the opponent is only a couple of feet from the mat and there's not much impact. If done wrong it can really fuck someones neck up, but when hit properly its pretty unimpressive given the bullshit they have to go through to set it up.

Swiss Ultimate
10-15-2017, 06:59 PM
Styles clash was the worst.

Destor
10-15-2017, 07:02 PM
Still is

KIRA
10-15-2017, 07:26 PM
The irish whip on the ourside of the ringv closer to guard rail or barricade it makes sense and looks brutal but not whipping someone all the way from one side to another.


The Killswitch was my one and only gripe with Christian the set up time and seriously you just drop your fucking arms and boom your out of it

Mr. Nerfect
10-15-2017, 07:31 PM
Eh, with the Styles Clash, I think it's just because it's elaborate. People like elaborate moves.

KIRA
10-15-2017, 07:35 PM
Eh, with the Styles Clash, I think it's just because it's elaborate. People like elaborate moves.

I'm not one of those people again the co-op needed to pull off Christians move is nuts

Elaborate moves sure but finishers are another story IMO
I remember as kids we judged finisher on if they really hurt, how much time they took to pull off and could you do them anywhere.

Obviously the Diamond cutter was our holy grail

Vastardikai
10-17-2017, 09:42 PM
Styles clash was the worst.

Especially when he uses the Ushitaroshi (sp? The fireman's carry the guy neck first into his knee move that Goto also uses), which is 500x more devastating looking.