Billy Corgan announces free NWA tv show + no more regional affiliates

[slik]

http://www.tpww.net/2017/10/billy-corgan-announces-free-weekly-nwa-show/


On Busted Open Radio Billy Corgan announced that the NWA has let all regional contracts lapse, meaning that the NWA is one big organization going forward, instead of having licensed affiliates. Corgan said live events will start running in the spring. Billy Corgan also said that while no specifics have been contractually set upon yet, the current goal is to run a free show, that is available to watch online anywhere in the world, each and every single week. He expects to start signing talent soon.

[Destor]

Been apparent for sometime. Many nwa promotions have switched to awa. No clue whyd they wasye their money on either...

In any case i hope this goes well for all involved. There's a market...just notnsure there's talent

[#1-norm-fan]

I kinda liked the idea of a "new age" territory system actually OWNED by NWA. Kinda like a WWE brand split but with more brands that all run exclusively in their own designated part of the country with their own territorial champions and ONE world/tag/women's champion that can float around. Would have been a cool alternative with a nostalgic flair.

I guess this is the best way to do things at least for now though. Just take complete control over everything and try to get as many eyes on it as possible.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Streamlining now is crucial for building interest, providing they can do it.

[Droford]

I heard the interview. The biggest question he kind of dodged was how he intended to sign talent that would get people to want to watch given their other options that are actually televised (WWE NXT ROH TNA LU NJPW). He said something along the lines of If they want top talent they're going to have to pay for it or they're going to have to sign people for cheap that won't actually draw initially. I can't see anyone signing a deal with them with the other options being available unless they overpay and really how many deals can they afford to do that.

I do think their first move If they have money would be to back up an armoured bank truck to Punks house and ask how much. He's the 1 person they could sign that would get attention in the crowded wrestling scene..

[Simple Fan]

Should be interesting and he was well liked by the locker room during his time with Impact. Could see the Hardy's signing with him once their WWE run is up as he was a big part of the Broken gimmick. Could take alot of talent from GFW I believe if he gets up and started well.

[#1-norm-fan]

It's not realistic...

But hypothetically, if Corgan were able to get Lesnar and Bryan once their contracts ran out and also lure Punk in, I wonder what that would do to the business. I've always said that I don't think anyone can realistically compete with WWE in North America until WWE first makes wrestling popular again and then someone could leach off of that. But if that were to happen, it would be... interesting.

[Destor]

Danielson is realistic.

[#1-norm-fan]

I don't know if he would shift things single-handedly all that much though.

[Destor]

Depends on the booking and what your target is. Danielson has a huge following and has built comlanies in the past. Is the NWA trying to compete with the fed? Or trying to turn a profit?

[#1-norm-fan]

I'm talking strictly from a "compete with the fed" standpoint. At least make WWE say "Oh, shit..."

[#1-norm-fan]

Danielson alone, I don't think would cause anyone to stop watching WWE if he left.

And the people he would draw to watch NWA would be bigger than TNA/ROH obviously... But it's gonna be mostly made up of the same smark fanbase who watches WWE no matter how bad it is. He's not exactly gonna cause a mainstream explosion to shift the tide all on his own.

[slik]

Danielson is realistic.

Ohhh I didn't think of that. Hmmm...

[Sepholio]

I personally think the moment Danielson goes to walk from WWE they will suddenly allow to wrestle again and he will stay.

[Tom Guycott]

Cody (Rhodes) shows up. While still being ROH Champion.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Danielson has always been the one that I figured would stay with the WWE. I imagine them paying him a lot of money to sit behind a desk somewhere or something. Punk isn't that much of a stretch, considering he loves wrestling, hates WWE, but loves money. Brock has always been a wild card like that. The dude is some sort of anomaly. He's worked for New Japan before. The guy follows his whims. If he wanted to change the business, he could show up somewhere and cause a massive stir. He's probably already got mountain of money on his farm.

I've made it my thing to suggest that Brock goes to New Japan when his WWE contract is up. But is it really that far-fetched? They might not pay him as much money as WWE would, but I can easily see him making Okada money. $2 million a year for the same amount of dates as WWE. That's still a lot of money.

Paul Heyman is another huge question mark. By all accounts, Heyman just goes in and does his job, focuses on his own segments and then goes home a richer man. But Heyman is another guy who loves wrestling. He's got to know how stale it is. And the guy is not even a public WWE apologist. In fact he's closer to saying that most of it gives him a headache than it's all awesome.

If there was somewhere for them to all jump ship to...it would definitely cause a schism. And I'd rather watch almost any other wrestling than WWE these days. Except for the products that exist, sadly enough.

[Simple Fan]

Danielson and Punk would be more likely to sign with ROH over the NWA in my opinion. Could see a GFW Impact purge and maybe a few guys from WWE but this is going to take time to build and is not an over night sensation.

[Destor]

Danielson and Punk would be more likely to sign with ROH over the NWA in my opinion. Could see a GFW Impact purge and maybe a few guys from WWE but this is going to take time to build and is not an over night sensation.
There is no reason to think that

[Simple Fan]

There is no reason to think that

Both have a history with the company and ROH could offer them better money.

[Destor]

You have no idea what either can offer them and neither have history with that company. Punk and Danielson worked for Gabe. The only thing about that company that is the same are the letters.

[Destor]

There is no reason to think that they are more likely to go to ROH than they are $5 Wrestling

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Yup, it would be like working for whatever the hell GFW is called right now because you had a good relationship with Russo, Dixie or Jarrett.

The only reason I would say ROH would be an option for Bryan would be the link-up with NJPW and still having freedom to work the other indies that one of their contracts offers, not because he used to work there.

[Destor]

NWA's ability to pay top guys is a huge question. We have no idea what kind of money he will dish out. Could be competitve, could be rubbish. He's got to actually pay someone first.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

I'm most interested in seeing what this free option is going to be. YouTube looks down on wrestling content when it comes to advertising dollars, which is why What Culture went from being happy its wrestling writers were running their own fed as it was turning a profit, to firing them.

Running their own service is expensive as hell, but a YouTube/Twitch stream with sponsorship might work. Depends on the level of talent that cashflow could bring in.

[Destor]

Hopefully they take the phone calls from powerbomb tv


Wouyld be good for both powerbomb and the indies as a whole but if Corgan is trying to seperate his product I doubt they go the route.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Maybe he'll go with FloSlam.

...

:lol:

[Destor]

The app is pretty legit, alls im sayin. Just needs a marquee program to draw eyes


functionality wise its lightyears ahead of NJPW World

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Oh yeah, I like Powerbomb. I was just laughing at FloSlam as they've just lost their last partner in IPW and their events page looks like this: https://www.floslam.tv/events

[Simple Fan]

You have no idea what either can offer them and neither have history with that company. Punk and Danielson worked for Gabe. The only thing about that company that is the same are the letters.

I don't care who was in charge while they were there. Who ever is in charge now has said on multiple occasions that their is a spot for either one to return. ROH has money and this NWA is new and Corgan has said he's not going to throw alot of money at it starting off.

[Destor]

I don't care who was in charge while they were there. Who ever is in charge now has said on multiple occasions that their is a spot for either one to return. ROH has money and this NWA is new and Corgan has said he's not going to throw alot of money at it starting off.
lol of course he did

[Droford]

NWA - "Come see Brian Danielson wrestle for free on our APP"

Public - "Who?"

NWA - "Daniel Bryan"

WWE - "CEASE AND DESIST!"

[Destor]

The IWC thinks that there are fans that arent apart of the IWC...its so weird.

[Destor]

You arent in a very exclusive club, we're the majority.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Yeah. This ain't the 90's anymore.

[Droford]

Corgan said in the interview if I remember right something to the effect of "my name doesnt carry a lot of weight in the industry but mainstream it does due to my music career"

My thought is he isn't going to go after people who obsess over wrestling 24/7 on the internet, but probably people who may have never even watched wrestling ever or at least not in a while but they might remember the NWA from their childhood or something..

[Destor]

The Danielsons name certainly wouldnt matter in that case

[Droford]

"I dont assume my music name carries much weight in the wrestling. But the one thing I will say is that my name does carry weight in the Mainstream world. Anyone who is a wrestling fan knows wrestling knows that wrestling doesnt get a lot of respect from the mainstream world and I will be able to open doors into the mainstream world that others cant"

He also mentioned later on in the interview that they will have the NWA championship belt and they are going to work with the current NWA Champion, which might be a mistake since hes a 52 year old guy and he was criticizing the age of wrestling fans (in their 50s) earlier in the interview.

[Simple Fan]

I believe Nic "Magnus Aldis is involved somehow. Storm was on a recent episode of Championship Wrestling from Hollywood and was confronted by Aldis. Personally I think Aldis would be a great Champion for the promotion starting out and I guess they are using CWFH to reestablish the title.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Magnus has got a lot of TNA stink.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I think they need to work out what sort of style of wrestling they are going to present, then choose someone who fits that style. Magnus is such a blank canvas wrestler from everything I've seen. He's your sports entertainer. Why would you watch NWA over WWE if it's just going to try and be everything that Impact Wrestling tried to do? Why does everything what to be Diet Coke?

[Destor]

Magnus was pushed while he was way too green. Same with crimson. Helk crison had been bumping for a year when he started there...magnus wasnt much different.

[Mr. Nerfect]

How about Matt Riddle as champion out the gate?

[Mr. Nerfect]

Orrrr, maybe Morrison? I mean, I think he's working for TNA now or something, but you've always got to wonder just how, ahem, "locked in" those things are.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Judging by his brief tenure in TNA and from what people have said about working with him, he's about giving guys some creative freedom. Like he helped produce most of the Broken Hardy stuff, but all the ideas were Matts and Corgan was a good guy to bounce ideas off of.

I guess it depends how he wants to run it, advertiser friendly or something a bit more hardcore. We know he was an ECW mark and while I dont think something like that could fly now, there are some things you could take that aren't hardcore that other shows aren't doing.

Agree Magnus isn't worth much. He's got a look and that's it. WWE aren't afraid of some TNA stink and if they're not willing to pick ip a pretty boy with a recent body, then he can't be worth that much.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Morrison, Riddle and there's a well of UK talent still that could be tapped for fairly cheap. Jimmy Havoc and Rampage would be good pickups, but I'm guessing it will be the pick of the indies, so even NJPW and ROH guys might be fair game, just have to work around their schedule.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Magnus was pushed while he was way too green. Same with crimson. Helk crison had been bumping for a year when he started there...magnus wasnt much different.

I've heard he got a lot better, and I think I saw some of his teamwork with Samoa Joe. I've got nothing against the guy and I think he would actually make a fine WWE signing. I dunno, something about him just doesn't seem "exciting." Like he's a solid hand, a good talent, does everything right -- but he's such a WWE talent that it feels like you're watching everybody else?

I'm not articulating my Magnus feelings well. It feels like you'd be putting the belt on him because he's the sort of guy something trying to be like the WWE would put the belt on. No statement is made by it. Nothing is really achieved. He's your perennial TNA/GFW/not-WWE champion. If they had a secondary belt, yeah sure.

[Simple Fan]

I think they need to work out what sort of style of wrestling they are going to present, then choose someone who fits that style. Magnus is such a blank canvas wrestler from everything I've seen. He's your sports entertainer. Why would you watch NWA over WWE if it's just going to try and be everything that Impact Wrestling tried to do? Why does everything what to be Diet Coke?

Aldis would be a much better name than Tim Storm. I mean he's going to have to get guys from both WWE and GFW/Impact to get some names involved. Can't just have the Time Storms of the world and build a promotion. What the do and how they present those ex WWE and GFW guys is what will make or break them. It's not diet coke just because they used to o wrestle for another company. Corgan has seen the mistakes Impact has made first hand, I don't imagine he'll try to be anything like them. Doesn't mean he can't raid their talent which I feel is likely.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Oh yeah, no doubt. I'm sure the plan won't be to roll with Tim Storm, lol.

[slik]

Bryan Danielson
Jimmy Jacobs on creative
Neville
Cody Rhodes
Richochet

all could be good people to sign

[Mr. Nerfect]

Jimmy Jacobs away from creative, please.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Unless he contributed something really good to the WWE that I missed?

[Mr. Nerfect]

You know, if TNA just goes ahead and folds, Bobby Lashley would make a great NWA Champ. Again, the only problem is that TNA stank. But Lashley kind of rises above that by being a legit freak.

[slik]

Unless he contributed something really good to the WWE that I missed?

He was really well-liked by the talent.
A lot of the Jericho/KO/List of Jericho stuff was his.

[Simple Fan]

Bryan Danielson
Jimmy Jacobs on creative
Neville
Cody Rhodes
Richochet

all could be good people to sign

Pretty sure Ricochet is WWE bound once he leaves NJPW but won't be able to do anything until 90 days after Ultima Lucha.

[Droford]

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https://noisey.vice.com/en_us/article/rjny7r/a-brief-history-of-billy-corgan-losing-his-goddamn-mind

I somehow missed the last almost 10 years of his losing his mind..plus there's stuff of him with Alex Jones more recently..

Gonna say this isn't gonna end well..

[Mr. Nerfect]

He was really well-liked by the talent.
A lot of the Jericho/KO/List of Jericho stuff was his.

A lot of the Jericho/KO/List of Jericho stuff is stuff I could have done without.

[Droford]

I think its funny he's now William Patrick Corgan when it comes to singing but Billy Corgan in wrestling