TPWW Greatest Manager of All Time Tournament: Qualifying Round Part 2

[#1-norm-fan]

Jim Cornette

http://jimcornette.com/sites/default/files/styles/uc_product_list/public/JC_purple_8x10.jpg?itok=zBzGMivV

vs

Mark Gullen

http://605pod.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Marc-Gullen-promo.jpg

Jimmy Hart

http://www.onlineworldofwrestling.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/Jimmy-Hart.jpg

vs

Stacy Keibler

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/ce/c8/a9/cec8a916a8f16ab7e75c8598c8b12061--stacey-keibler-wcw-wrestlers.jpg

Paul Bearer

http://www.angelfire.com/pa5/old/images/managers/bearer2.jpg

vs

Sable

https://i.pinimg.com/236x/6c/9a/a2/6c9aa24327cf89f738f97ebed45cfd59.jpg

Miss Elizabeth

https://ringthedamnbell.files.wordpress.com/2013/07/phtwk.jpg

vs

Clarence Mason

http://www.onlineworldofwrestling.com/pictures/c/clarencemason/01.jpg

Ted DiBiase

http://shop.wwe.com/on/demandware.static/-/Sites/default/dwbbb230fc/images/slot/landing/superstar-landing/Superstar-Category_Superstar_562x408_millionDollarMan.png

vs

Melina

http://www.onlineworldofwrestling.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/Melina-1.jpg

Arnold Skaaland

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/a9/35/8c/a9358cb7ca7d3ec0117904cc3fbdff73--hall.jpg

vs

Lita

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m7xow98VJu1r99vt3.bmp

Sir Oliver Humperdink

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-LmOLCH43ZTE/UigWfCsTNvI/AAAAAAAAAwU/uwdRtp_lQvg/s1600/Sir+Oliver+Humperdink.jpg

vs

Precious

http://www.gerweck.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/Precious.jpg

Col. Rob Parker

http://www.bookprowrestlers.com/images/colrobertparker.jpg

vs

Maryse

https://i1.wp.com/celebrityinside.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/WWE-Maryse-Ouellet-Body-Measurements-Bra-Size.jpg

Sunny

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/prowrestling/images/9/9f/Tammy_Sytch_3.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20091219235355

vs

Prince Nana

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/prowrestling/images/6/6d/Princenana_0.png/revision/latest?cb=20130628022213

Bill Alfonso

http://pm1.narvii.com/6553/7775fa04bfd10ad9d45c02c039f19ec6e38927b5_hq.jpg

vs

The Grand Wizard

https://i.pinimg.com/236x/04/8b/f5/048bf5b3b2cc806e7c898ad3720f9c54--grand-wizard-wizards.jpg

Don Callis

https://statics.sportskeeda.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/the-jackyl-28127340-1484742986-800.jpg

vs

Luna Vachon

http://www.wwe.com/f/styles/wwe_large/public/rd-talent/Bio/Luna_Vachon.jpg

Paul Jones

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/pELsK8z0-rs/hqdefault.jpg

vs

Missy Hyatt

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/7f/0a/4a/7f0a4a1e89c1a99965e3a7bf29f2ecee--wrestling-stars-wrestling-news.jpg

Lana

https://dailyjobber.files.wordpress.com/2015/07/business-divas-lana-wwe-divas-37247872-642-722.jpg
vs

Johnny Valliant

https://cdn.patch.com/users/2036799/2013/12/T800x600/4392401095cab66e155c70e0537f056c.jpg

Diamond Dallas Page

http://68.media.tumblr.com/86cbedb2d48acfb5473b122d467842d4/tumblr_mt5uos5ew71rg89a6o1_500.png

vs

The Genius

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/e7/da/48/e7da482119c6b905b04ff9f1da1c10bb.jpg

James Mitchell

http://pm1.narvii.com/6386/2315274670b732f4747d0e57c925a8c00d058e7b_hq.jpg

vs

Chyna

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CgkZAS0WwAAlbk4.jpg

Terri Runnels

https://zahthoughts.files.wordpress.com/2015/07/alexandra-york.jpg

vs

Rico

https://prorasslin.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/rico.jpg

[Sepholio]

Screw you for match number 2. Stacy shouldn't have to go against THE MOUTH OF THE SOUTH. Her ASSets should have carried her through the prelims.

[#1-norm-fan]

SAYS THE GUY WHO VOTED PRINCE NANA OVER SUNNY!

[Ultra Mantis]

Just going to assume Johnny Polo has a bye to the finals.

[Destor]

The fact you forced me to vote against Bill Alfonzo will not forgiven

[Bad News Gertner]

Grand Wizard baby!

[Anybody Thrilla]

A man like me wouldn't normally be voting for a Grand Wizard, but even I have to in this scenario.

[Bad News Gertner]

Maybe you're Clayton Bigsby

[Anybody Thrilla]

I've been accused.

[Ruien]

Stacy Kielber all the way!

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

You will not see him in the upcoming weeks Mark Guleen has been eliminated.

[Stealth-Icon]

No Paul Ellering?

[Mr. Nerfect]

Ellering was in the last round.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Some harder match-ups for me this time. Joking aside, some of the women in these rounds actually helped their charges. Conventional or not, Lita was soooooo fucking over in 2000. She was a part of that package. No way I could put her over Skaaland though.

Lana, Sunny, Maryse and Melina were/are all really good at their jobs. I didn't put them all over, but it was harder this side.

[hb2k]

I put Lita over Skaaland happily. Arnold Skaaland sucks balls as a manager.

Melina and DiBiase I had to stop and think about. On paper, DiBiase is a better character and promo, but the Million Dollar Corporation was a shitty stable, and I can't honestly say DiBiase really helped anybody that he managed or was responsible for anything positive in the role. Melina, on the other hand, was great as the charisma of MNM, short-lived as it was.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Haha, I'm probably overrating his significance, truthfully. Melina and DiBiase gave me the same pause. Your analysis is spot-on there. DiBiase as a manager feels like a retired wrestler doing his shtick on the side. DiBiase is really fondly remembered as a heel, but I don't think any of it transferred effectively. I much prefer it when a manager gets in there and it really feels like they are part of the act. Melina did that really well. Hell, her initial is in the team name -- it felt like she was a member. Ironically, her association with people behind the scenes ended up hurting them. But on-air she was great in that role.

I also went with Lana over Jimmy Valiant. It took me a while to get optimistic about Rusev, but now I am quite upset they are not together. I thought they had something with her in that role, even though Stephanie tried to cut her "Lady Balls" off.

[Crippla]

I had to throw some shade in on some votes going against the obvious winners

[Anybody Thrilla]

Oh my god. Crippla lives.

[Anybody Thrilla]

The people that saddled DiBiase with had no chance of getting over anyway. There wasn't a redeeming quality between them. King Kong Bundy, Kama Mustafa, Nikolai Volkoff, IRS, and I guess Tatanka for a minute. Who am I missing in that god awful stable?

[#1-norm-fan]

Sid and the 1-2-3 Kid.

[Emperor Smeat]

http://www.angelfire.com/pa5/old/images/managers/bearer2.jpg

:lol: at Paul Bearer's picture.

[Anybody Thrilla]

Sid was actually kinda tight, the more I think about it.

[DAMN iNATOR]

A man like me wouldn't normally be voting for a Grand Wizard, but even I have to in this scenario.

:shifty:

[Mr. Nerfect]

The people that saddled DiBiase with had no chance of getting over anyway. There wasn't a redeeming quality between them. King Kong Bundy, Kama Mustafa, Nikolai Volkoff, IRS, and I guess Tatanka for a minute. Who am I missing in that god awful stable?

I don't disagree with you, but that it was never going to work doesn't just mean you can assume that it would.

[Bad News Gertner]

I put Lita over Skaaland happy. Arnold Skaaland sucks balls as a manager.

Melina and DiBiase I had to stop and think about. On paper, DiBiase is a better character and promo, but the Million Dollar Corporation was a shitty stable, and I can't honestly say DiBiase really helped anybody that he managed or was responsible for anything positive in the role. Melina, on the other hand, was great as the charisma of MNM, short-lived as it was.

Lol Skaaland so terrible. I think I saw him get involved only once during a Backlund match against Slaughter I believe.

Plus he gave us his spawn George Skaaland.

I change my vote to Lita lol

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Parvelou Scrambled Eggs Grandma! Why isn't Johnny Valiant winning?

KESKASAY!

[hb2k]

Lol Skaaland so terrible. I think I saw him get involved inky once during a Backlund match against Slaughter I believe.

Plus he gave us his spawn George Skaaland.

I change my vote to Lita lol

Exactly. Lita was iconic with the Hardyz and took Edge from a struggling upper-mid heel to a big time difference maker and genuine top star. Arnold Skaaland never cut a good promo in his life, and truthfully added nothing to Bruno or Backlund.

DiBiase had a bunch of losers, sure, but so did Lou Albano and he made it work because he was ace and had a ton of heat. DiBiase, for a main event heel manager, was pretty cold and just kind of filling a role as opposed to being awesome in it. Did he ever cut a promo as a manager that gave his guy a ton of heat, or made you want to see him lose?

Melina, who was a complete unknown, with what she had (a brand new tag team without any kind of built-in momentum), did far more and was part of a really strong act for a year. Ted's only real claim to fame as a manager was that he happened to be part of the NWO in the early run, but he was a bit player in truth. Was DiBiase any good in WCW as a babyface manager for the Steiner and Ray Traylor? No, he sucked.

As a wrestler, DiBiase as a promo blows her out of the water. As a manager, I honestly think Melina was better in her role that DiBiase was in his.

[Anybody Thrilla]

I don't disagree with you, but that it was never going to work doesn't just mean you can assume that it would.

You're definitely not wrong. I was just talking out loud.

[Anybody Thrilla]

Melina was actually pretty tight, the more I think about it.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Prob should have voted Lita as she was fiest and foremost a damned good manager who could bump and sell.

Never really watched Skaaland but just assumed he was better cuz he was old and threw Backlunds towel in against Sheik.

[Bad News Gertner]

That's pretty much all he ever did in 20 years. I LOVE Backlund, but Skaaland was pretty much put with Backlund because Skaaland also managed Bruno. Plus Skaaland was office and Im sure he got extra pay. His interviews were bleh. Even Kal Rudman couldn't get something entertaining out of Arnie

[Destor]

Lita was the drizzling shits and im trhilled shes losing

[Bad News Gertner]

Parvelou Scrambled Eggs Grandma! Why isn't Johnny Valiant winning?

KESKASAY!

Lol because he was fucking horrible

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Skaaland was part owner of wwwf along with gorilla wasnt he?

[#1-norm-fan]

Goddammit, we're gonna have a tie, aren't we?

[Destor]

I favor a head to head rematch

[Bad News Gertner]

Skaaland was part owner of wwwf along with gorilla wasnt he?

He ran towns for the WWWF/WWF. If Vince defaulted on any of the quarterly payment to his dad, the company would have been split between Phil Zacko who promoted towns like Philly, Skaaland, Monsoon and I've heard Angelo Savoldi had a tiny bit of it

[Mr. Nerfect]

Okay, I completely forgot that Lita was with Edge. I don't know how I forgot that, but I just didn't even factor it in. In the event of a tie, I will gladly change my vote to Lita, but I also favor the rematch. And I was rating Skaaland way too highly based on how significant I thought he was to the success of Bruno. This is my own ignorance.

Melina was really good in her role. For example, compare Blake & Murphy w/ Alexa to MNM. Obviously Nitro and Mercury were better wrestlers, but they needed Melina to be a part of that act. It's not as easy to make it all come together as they made it look.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Remember the Teacher's Pets? Nope? Exactly.

[hb2k]

Somebody HAS to vote for Lita to get a rematch going. Skaaland cannot go through to the second round, he just can't.

[#1-norm-fan]

In the event of a tie, I might do a triple threat or something for the first round. With just a few hours left though, it's not looking like that's gonna be necessary.