Kurt Angle returns to in-ring action at TLC and Smackdown's AJ Styles battles Finn Balor

[GD]

http://www.wwe.com/shows/wwetlc/article/kurt-angle-returns-replace-roman-reigns-at-wwe-tlc-aj-styles-the-demon

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Replacing Roman freakin' Reigns in the main event!

Due to medical issues impacting two WWE Superstars scheduled to appear at WWE TLC: Tables, Ladders and Chairs, streaming live on WWE Network this Sunday, the special event will now feature Kurt Angle competing in a WWE ring for the first time in more than 11 years, as he replaces Roman Reigns. In addition, former WWE Champion AJ Styles will replace Bray Wyatt and face “The Demon” Finn Bálor.

A WWE Hall of Famer and the current General Manager of Raw, Angle will join forces with Raw Tag Team Champions Seth Rollins & Dean Ambrose to battle the daunting combination of Braun Strowman, Intercontinental Champion The Miz, Cesaro, Sheamus and The Big Red Machine Kane in a Tables, Ladders & Chairs 5-on-3 Handicap Match.

The showdown between “The Demon” and Styles is one that the WWE Universe has been wanting for a long time and promises to be one of the most exciting matches of 2017.

Check back with WWE.com as more information becomes available. Don’t miss a moment of WWE TLC, streaming live on WWE Network, this Sunday at 8 ET/5 PT

[Cool King]

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[Evil Vito]

What the fuck?

[RP]

Whats wrong with Roman Reigns? Did him and Bray Wyatt have sex?

[Evil Vito]

Like.......wouldn't you just have Finn team with Rollins and Ambrose? There's a high probability of a Shield/Club match in these next few months anyway so this could somehow build to that. That way you don't waste Angle's return in such a rushed, nonsensical way.

[rez]

wutttttttt

[Stickman]

What a complete waste. Having a program promoting Angles return makes way more sense than this. This is a god awful throw away ppv line up, why on earth have Angle wrestle in a clusterfuck match?

[rez]

a Raw star called in sick, let's pluck SD's largest superstar. One off thing or will they try to make something out of it>

[rez]

What a complete waste. Having a program promoting Angles return makes way more sense than this. This is a god awful throw away ppv line up, why on earth have Angle wrestle in a clusterfuck match?

Agree...complete waste + I bet Daniel isn't too happy still being on the sidelines and Angle cleared.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Panic WWE is the best WWE. Wasn't going to watch, now fucking will.

I don't watch the weekly shows anyway since they suck, so fuck build.

[Triple A]

lol jeez

[KIRA]

WWE in Panic mode is the best thing ever

They took out the one part of the Shield that sucks and put in hands down one of THE best to ever step foot in a ring

And Balor vs Styles just the idea makes me have to change my pants.

[KIRA]

What a complete waste. Having a program promoting Angles return makes way more sense than this. This is a god awful throw away ppv line up, why on earth have Angle wrestle in a clusterfuck match?

It WAS a throwaway PPV

this sounds better than whatever shit theyll most likely put on for Mania

[Destor]

Card looks better by the second...and tpww complains about it

[KIRA]

Whats wrong with Roman Reigns? Did him and Bray Wyatt have sex?

Spit Roasted Jojo

[Theo Dious]

What a complete waste. Having a program promoting Angles return makes way more sense than this. This is a god awful throw away ppv line up, why on earth have Angle wrestle in a clusterfuck match?

FUCK you. Kurt Angle is wrestling in WWE again. IT DOESN'T MATTER WHY.

[Theo Dious]

Card looks better by the second...and tpww complains about it

Surprised?

[Destor]

I shouldnt be

[XL]

Somehow WWE manage to make the Kurt Angle in-ring return and a clash between former Bullet Club leaders suck.

These matches should be the culmination of months worth of build up.

Maybe if they’d not made one match so top heavy they could have spread the stars they have across the card.

They could have just run an angle with Bálor and come back to the match when Bray is good to go.

Fill a bit of time with Jinder making an appearance to “call out” Lesnar - knowing well that he’s not in attendance, and move the Kick Off matches to the main card.

It’s a B level PPV that won’t gain you any network subs because they’ve just given the rest of the year away for free.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

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lmao

[KIRA]

Stickman I don't see how you can complain about this as far as illness goes this is the best thing that could have happened to this card

AJ and Angle don't need no fucking build

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Somehow WWE manage to make the Kurt Angle in-ring return and a clash between former Bullet Club leaders suck.

These matches should be the culmination of months worth of build up.

Maybe if they’d not made one match so top heavy they could have spread the stars they have across the card.

They could have just run an angle with Bálor and come back to the match when Bray is good to go.

Fill a bit of time with Jinder making an appearance to “call out” Lesnar - knowing well that he’s not in attendance, and move the Kick Off matches to the main card.

It’s a B level PPV that won’t gain you any network subs because they’ve just given the rest of the year away for free.

Why? The build would suck and we'd have 2 months of complaining about that and take the steam out of the match. Now I'm excited for something in advance in WWE for the first time in a year.

[Destor]

Somehow WWE manage to make the Kurt Angle in-ring return and a clash between former Bullet Club leaders suck.

These matches should be the culmination of months worth of build up.

Maybe if they’d not made one match so top heavy they could have spread the stars they have across the card.

They could have just run an angle with Bálor and come back to the match when Bray is good to go.

Fill a bit of time with Jinder making an appearance to “call out” Lesnar - knowing well that he’s not in attendance, and move the Kick Off matches to the main card.

It’s a B level PPV that won’t gain you any network subs because they’ve just given the rest of the year away for free.
Lol

[KIRA]

Exactly you can just enjoy it as a one off

[Destor]

If this thread doesnt show you that the real problem is the audience cant be pleased i dont know what will

[#BROKEN Hasney]

If this thread doesnt show you that the real problem is the audience cant be pleased i dont know what will

I mean, the people that want a build probably imagine they can do a good build in 2017. I admire their optimism.

[Theo Dious]

If this thread doesnt show you that the real problem is the audience cant be pleased i dont know what will

Seriously. An already weak b show falls apart, and when WWE fixes it by giving the fans a pair of wet dreams, people have to cry about it.

[Theo Dious]

Styles should cone out in Frankenstein makeup and say he got a look at Finn and thought it was a Halloween show.

[KIRA]

This is incredible there really is no pleasing people

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Styles should cone out in Frankenstein makeup and say he got a look at Finn and thought it was a Halloween show.

Then Finn just comes out as Stripper Balor and says he didn't need to be the demon if he's not facing a man possessed by a furry.

[Lock Jaw]

I wonder if Angle will wear tactical gear

[owenbrown]

HOLY FUCKING SHIT

[Splaya]

The changes might not be done! There is a chance Braun Strowman might also be removed from the TLC card.
Rumors are this could be a viral meningitis, but we're hearing that is FALSE and it's the story WWE wants to circulate.
There is a good possibility WWE will hotshot a storyline they were saving for way down the road and align Finn Balor and AJ Styles, forming "The Balor Club."
WWE was/is scrambling to fix this with any one they can. We're told even Daniel Bryan's name was in the mix, but he was likely told he'd lace up and go out, but wouldn't take any bumps and just stand on the apron the whole time. Bryan has been dying to get back into a WWE ring and there's no way he'd turn down anything promising that could lead to a full time in-ring return.
WWE has had 2 emergency meetings today already and are having another at 4:30 EST.
Kevin Owens is off the current Smackdown South America tour. We're being told it's unrelated and for personal reasons. However, it seems far too likely a coincidence that it happens the same day everything else is blowing up.
We're being told that in the next 30 days anything, with the exception of contracted ROH and NJPW workers, is possible right now.
NXT is being told to possibly prepare for not having Cole, Fish, O'Rielly, and Galloway.
Don't be shocked to see Lesnar pop up either. WWE isn't afraid to use an extra date on Lesnar and re-arrange the currently plans for him.

[Fignuts]

I think the issue in this thread here is you have people who are still emotionally invested in WWE storylines and characters, and then you have people like me and Hasney who have completely given up on that, and only watch for the matches themselves.

[Simple Fan]

Sounds great. I wasn't as down on Bray doing the Sister Abigail stuff but Styles vs Balor is way better. Hopefully they get Gallows and Anderson involved some how. Angel returning is great as well and replacing Reigns makes it even better.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Panic WWE is the best WWE. Wasn't going to watch, now fucking will.

I don't watch the weekly shows anyway since they suck, so fuck build.

Agreed.

This isn't a waste. You really think they'd do a good job promoting his return? It wouldn't do shit.

The Shield but with Kurt Angle instead of Roman Reigns sounds awesome to me.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

I'm not that excited for Angle outside of a novelty, dude is broken down. I watched some of his last TNA matches...

But Finn V AJ? Hell yeah. Alvarez is saying that they should get a good chunk of time too.

[XL]

I think the issue in this thread here is you have people who are still emotionally invested in WWE storylines and characters, and then you have people like me and Hasney who have completely given up on that, and only watch for the matches themselves.

Clearly.

Bálor/Styles will be a much, much better match than Bálor/Wyatt but a singular, potentially throwaway match isn’t better than a great match with some decent build.

Like, what’s Angle’s issue with The Miz/The Bar/Braun/Kane? What’s the explanation for him stepping in for Reigns (in kayfabe)?

If you want to use these matches/return to ring action to boost PPV “buys” you don’t put it on with 2 days notice as a knee jerk reaction.

[Lock Jaw]

In kayfabe Kurt Angle got the news Roman wasn't available, and stood looking at his phone in bewilderment until he ran out of time and was just "F it, I'll do it myself"

[Danny Electric]

I'm just disappointed that they didn't replace Bray with Mike Kanellis

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

I'm not that excited for Angle outside of a novelty, dude is broken down. I watched some of his last TNA matches...

But Finn V AJ? Hell yeah. Alvarez is saying that they should get a good chunk of time too.

Meh I just love the idea of him wrestling in a WWE ring. He'll be slower by a few steps, but he'll still be kurt. Plus, relatively fresher than he would have been during his TNA run. Will probably pull out a few extra stops.

[Helmsphere]

I fear for Kurt Angle.

I have no problem WWE doing this.

I have a problem with putting him in a TLC Match, a match that often includes Heinous bumps. So either they protect him and in turn, Rollins and Ambrose more then likely get injured.

Or we see Kurt's last match ever.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Clearly.

Bálor/Styles will be a much, much better match than Bálor/Wyatt but a singular, potentially throwaway match isn’t better than a great match with some decent build.

Like, what’s Angle’s issue with The Miz/The Bar/Braun/Kane? What’s the explanation for him stepping in for Reigns (in kayfabe)?

If you want to use these matches/return to ring action to boost PPV “buys” you don’t put it on with 2 days notice as a knee jerk reaction.

But none of the matches on this card or any card this year have had a decent build. The fact I haven't heard about this match being discussed for weeks in advance and having some crappy reason for the match means I'm much, much more excited than I would be with whatever build WWE would shit out.

[Droford]

Kurt Angle for Shield Mastermind manager role

[Maluco]

This is big...it suggests something bigger than meningitis is my opinion.

In a perfect world, they wouldn't use Angle at all, I don't think they wanted to. It's a B-level PPV, no need for Angle.

The fact he is being used means they are expecting more people to go down, perhaps for a while.

Left wondering if there is some sort of scandal about to kick off.

[Dark One]

LET'S GO MENIN-GI-TIS! LET'S GO MENIN-GI-TIS! LET'S GO MENIN-GI-TIS! LET'S GO MENIN-GI-TIS!

[Dark One]

Also, returning to a WWE ring for the first time to a FUCKING TLC MATCH is probably the most Kurt Angle thing ever.

[Dark One]

Oh god, worst case scenario:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">He better wrestle too, I better not watch Kurt somehow get ambushed backstage so you guys can force Jason Jordan on us</p>&mdash; Brandon (@arrowheadkid27) <a href="https://twitter.com/arrowheadkid27/status/921490552998293510?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 20, 2017</a></blockquote>
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[Ruien]

Panic WWE is the best WWE. Wasn't going to watch, now fucking will.

I don't watch the weekly shows anyway since they suck, so fuck build.

WWE in Panic mode is the best thing ever

They took out the one part of the Shield that sucks and put in hands down one of THE best to ever step foot in a ring

And Balor vs Styles just the idea makes me have to change my pants.

This. I will now give them 10 dollars to sub to the network.

[ClockShot]

Well, this is interesting.

Balor/Styles (if Vince lets them have their way) has the potential to bring the house down. And give NJPW a boost in Bullet Club merchandise sales. Even if it's a throwaway and the crowd is chanting "Bullet Club" during the whole match, it'll be something to see.

Angle stepping back in the ring is.........interesting. Strange move since this would have been the perfect chance to let Jason Jordan get a chance to prove himself since his storyline has gone completely nowhere since the Alpha breakup.

Whatever. Could be worse. Could have just scrapped the whole PPV.

[Dark One]

60% chance Kurt does a moonsault off a ladder.

[Dark One]

Angle stepping back in the ring is.........interesting. Strange move since this would have been the perfect chance to let Jason Jordan get a chance to prove himself since his storyline has gone completely nowhere since the Alpha breakup.

SHUT UP. DON'T PUT THAT OUT THERE.

[Emperor Smeat]

Not sure how contagious viral meningitis is but it seems a bit risky to use anyone from the Smackdown brand since they could potentially spread the illness there.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Daniel Bryan is going to be walking around with a vial of viral meningitis and just throwing it on all the Smackdown main eventers.</p>&mdash; IVPvideos (@IVPvideos) <a href="https://twitter.com/IVPvideos/status/921483792694632450?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 20, 2017</a></blockquote>
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[Evil Vito]

I will laugh my balls off if this is a bait and switch for Jordan.

[Dark One]

I will laugh my balls off if this is a bait and switch for Jordan.

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[Evil Vito]

Would've been hilarious if Cena had to be the replacement because Reigns couldn't do his job properly.

[Evil Vito]

The entire Shield reunion was awkwardly rushed. So I guess awkwardly rushing Angle's return is appropriate.

Just hope Angle doesn't take any fucking stupid bumps. I will cringe at pretty much every "impact" move he's involved in.

[Emperor Smeat]

I will laugh my balls off if this is a bait and switch for Jordan.

Would probably destroy Jordan's face push with fans if that happened. Like Rumble 2015 levels of booing for anything Jordan does in the match.

[Dark One]

The entire Shield reunion was awkwardly rushed. So I guess awkwardly rushing Angle's return is appropriate.

Just hope Angle doesn't take any fucking stupid bumps. I will cringe at pretty much every "impact" move he's involved in.

Listen, man.

After enough time, duct tape and bubblegum calcifies into an impenetrable and unbreakable adamantium shell.

[RP]

Viral is better than bacterial

[A.J.K]

Stickman I don't see how you can complain about this as far as illness goes this is the best thing that could have happened to this card

AJ and Angle don't need no fucking build

Oh it's True , It's Damn True. I am very happy to see Our Olympic Hero back in ring.

[RP]

BTW ( no joke here ). Viral Meningitis can be spread through herpes type 2 ( genital herpes )

So there is a chance a lot of wrestlers have been fucking around. Maybe Nia Jax got drunk and let a train get run on her?

[Destor]

That should be in the make up a rumor thread :lol:

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

The Club Explodes

[RP]

We'll have to see if JoJo is still on ring announcer duty this Sunday. If no, then Roman and Bray have been tag teaming outside the ring.

[Stickman]

The entire Shield reunion was awkwardly rushed. So I guess awkwardly rushing Angle's return is appropriate.

Just hope Angle doesn't take any fucking stupid bumps. I will cringe at pretty much every "impact" move he's involved in.

I don't think he Sheild reunion was rushed

[Simple Fan]

But none of the matches on this card or any card this year have had a decent build. The fact I haven't heard about this match being discussed for weeks in advance and having some crappy reason for the match means I'm much, much more excited than I would be with whatever build WWE would shit out.

Agree, feel like a WWE build to Styles vs Balor would kind of ruin it anyway. They have their own history without ever meeting in the ring. At least I don't think they have ever had a match but coming out of nowhere makes it intriguing. I'm sure they kill it and might even get the Good Brothers involved in someway, assuming they don't have the mumps as well.

[Dark One]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Interesting... �� <a href="https://t.co/ZIdNQi9KeF">https://t.co/ZIdNQi9KeF</a></p>&mdash; Daniel Bryan (@WWEDanielBryan) <a href="https://twitter.com/WWEDanielBryan/status/921509111140716545?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 20, 2017</a></blockquote>
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[RP]

https://www.si.com/wrestling/2017/10/20/kurt-angle-roman-reigns-bray-wyatt-wwe-tlc-viral-meningitis

Justin LaBar of the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review reported on Wednesday that Bray Wyatt, Bo Dallas and JoJo Offerman have been out of action recently because of viral meningitis. PWInsider reports that Dallas is the only wrestler to have shown symptoms, while Wyatt and Offerman are being quarantined as a precaution. Dallas is Wyatt’s real-life brother, and Wyatt and Offerman are dating.

JoJo got the herps

[#1-norm-fan]

Anyone complaining about the lack of build is assuming WWE would have been capable of a good build anyway. At this point, I say they cram everything they can into the next 6 months or so in a frenzy and then burn Titan Towers to the ground along with all known footage of Raw from the past 15 years.

[Swiss Ultimate]

Panic WWE is the best WWE. Wasn't going to watch, now fucking will.

I don't watch the weekly shows anyway since they suck, so fuck build.

Kinda with you here. I had no interest and now I do.

[Stickman]

Finn Balor VS AJ Styles needs a build also. I don't follow anything outside of the WWE like most of the fans, so I'm not creaming my pants like the rest of you.

I'm sure it will be a good match, but a build would be nice.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

lol the build would be AJ Styles running down Finn's dog.

[Dark One]

Finn Balor VS AJ Styles needs a build also. I don't follow anything outside of the WWE like most of the fans, so I'm not creaming my pants like the rest of you.

I'm sure it will be a good match, but a build would be nice.

lol the build would be AJ Styles running down Finn's dog.

"I want some"
"lol u dont want none"
"Yeah I do"
"k"

[GD]

BTW ( no joke here ). Viral Meningitis can be spread through herpes type 2 ( genital herpes )

So there is a chance a lot of wrestlers have been fucking around. Maybe Nia Jax got drunk and let a train get run on her?

Needs a rumor thread of its own.

[Destor]

Finn Balor VS AJ Styles needs a build also. I don't follow anything outside of the WWE like most of the fans, so I'm not creaming my pants like the rest of you.

I'm sure it will be a good match, but a build would be nice.

1st world wrestling fans problem.

This sounds really weird to people who have been watching for decades. Back when it was a wrestling show hot matches people wanted to see happended all the time. Didnt need to be a soap opera just to do a match.

Kids these days...

[Destor]

Commentator: got a hot match tonight!

Fans: niiiiiiice

"Smart" fans: @#$%!

[Destor]

Was just watching Nitro from 96. Flair defended the world title against the giant and then the next week defended it against luger.

Stick man would have been sooooooo hot back then

[Stickman]

1st world wrestling fans problem.

This sounds really weird to people who have been watching for decades. Back when it was a wrestling show hot matches people wanted to see happended all the time. Didnt need to be a soap opera just to do a match.

Kids these days...

I have been very uninterested in Finn Balor. Everyone here takes his load on the regular but I'm still trying to figure him out. He has an entrance where the fans can play a part, other than that I see a cruiserweight who plays dress up every now and then.

[Destor]

Yeah im i down with that, but those points are not mutually exclusive.

[Maluco]

Unpredictability and "anything can happen" is a draw. Always was on attitude era. Booking was still the shits at times, but people tuned in because didn't want to miss what might potentially happen.

Tempted to order network just to see what happens now

[rez]

is sick bray walking around his house in a tattered, silk, or cotton bath robe?

[Stocky]

Just say aj styles is Sister Abigail there is your build.

[KIRA]

is sick bray walking around his house in a tattered, silk, or cotton bath robe?

He seems like a guy who is okay with a little misery so silk(cotton can breathe if he is sick he probably has a fever so silk just adds to the pain)

[Swiss Ultimate]

I hope Angle does the Angle slam.

[rez]

He seems like a guy who is okay with a little misery so silk(cotton can breathe if he is sick he probably has a fever so silk just adds to the pain)

what about jojo? figure she just wears a large baseball jersey of her father's. :naughty:

[Evil Vito]

SIERRA

HOTEL

INTENSITY INTEGRITY INTELLIGENCE

ECHO

LIMA

DELTA

SHIIIELD

[Ruien]

Hope Angle puts Jordan in the match to make it 5v4. So it's not stupid.

[KIRA]

They'll probably need to restart my heart if Angle actually wears tactical gear.

[KIRA]

This has been the greatest weekend in the history of our sport
Roman Reigns is being replaced and Alicia Fox has a T-Shirt

[erickman]

Just say aj styles is Sister Abigail there is your build.

poor aj got in another clare lynch angle

[erickman]

Hope Angle puts Jordan in the match to make it 5v4. So it's not stupid.

the whole thing was to build roman now he is not in it, I see a bunch of run ins now to keep kane and angle from doing much.

[Nicky Fives]

Kinda hope someone lays out Angle backstage.....

[Sepholio]

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/GrayCandidArgentineruddyduck-max-1mb.gif

Some people just can't be satisfied.

[Sepholio]

So the rumor about this being related to the mumps.....seems a lot of people forgot to get vaccines. I blame Alex Jones.

[Jordan]

Well I am excited for this show to sat the least.

[rockman725]

Although I'm excited about the "idea" behind the replacement of Angle for Reigns, I'm pretty sure I know how it's really gonna go... Angle does his entrance, blah blah blah, some one will sneak attack him (most likely Strowman or Kane) and he'll be carted to the back. Very doubtful that we'll see any offense or significant bumps from Kurt. I see this more of a PR-hype move than an actual match-booking move since it was promoted as The Shield's first match back together. I can't wait to see Angle's first legit match back, but this could set the seeds to it down the road. Kurt vs. Strowman or Kurt vs. Kane in a retirement match would be intriguing.

Styles vs. Balor = mind blown, so yeah, I'm excited to see how they handle the kayfabe storyline into bring AJ over. Maybe a favor for a favor thing between Shane & Steph or Shane & Kurt.

[Droford]

Just say aj styles is Sister Abigail there is your build.

Gives soccer mom haircut new meaning

[ooTin]

I am one of the biggest Kurt Angle marks and even I think this will be a shit show of a match where angle will be injured out early on or have little to no interaction with anyone or anything. AJ vs. Balor on TLC feels like prematurely ejaculating, sure you got the end result but it was a shitty, pointless ride.

[Simple Fan]

I am one of the biggest Kurt Angle marks and even I think this will be a shit show of a match where angle will be injured out early on or have little to no interaction with anyone or anything. AJ vs. Balor on TLC feels like prematurely ejaculating, sure you got the end result but it was a shitty, pointless ride.

AJ/Finn could easily set up something in the future and probably won't be a one off if it a program they are rushing for sake of sickness. Keeping them apart after the match could also be a good thing as its won't be a fued that is burnt out in 3 months. Then again they could easily find away to move AJ to Raw if they really wanted to go with that program now.

[#1-norm-fan]

I will laugh my balls off if this is a bait and switch for Jordan.

lol What better way to keep that Reigns heat going anyway...

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Here's your goddamn build

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Better than most long storylines in the WWE already.

[slik]

If this thread doesnt show you that the real problem is the audience cant be pleased i dont know what will

I agree

These are fantastic changes, and a great use of making lemonade out of lemons. We get to see Angle wrestle in a couple days + a AJ/Balor's a bit of a dream match

There is nothing to complain about.

[Black Widow]

Here's your goddamn build

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">“<a href="https://twitter.com/AJStylesOrg?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@AJStylesOrg</a>...our paths haven’t crossed...until <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WWETLC?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WWETLC</a>” - <a href="https://twitter.com/FinnBalor?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@FinnBalor</a> before his match at <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WWESTL?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WWESTL</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/WWENetwork?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@WWENetwork</a> <a href="https://t.co/beAhhS1PiH">pic.twitter.com/beAhhS1PiH</a></p>&mdash; WWE (@WWE) <a href="https://twitter.com/WWE/status/921539907818065920?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 21, 2017</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">BREAKING: <a href="https://twitter.com/AJStylesOrg?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@AJStylesOrg</a> responds to the major <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WWETLC?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WWETLC</a> shake-up! <a href="https://t.co/CRjPxWRRNp">pic.twitter.com/CRjPxWRRNp</a></p>&mdash; WWE (@WWE) <a href="https://twitter.com/WWE/status/921523637508886528?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 20, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Better than most long storylines in the WWE already.Balor vs. AJ with no storyline > Balor vs. Fatman in drag with storyline.

[Sting Fan]

I might pay for this PPV... If Angle is a bait and switch it will be my last ever unless Styles looks likely to win a title at a Wrestlemania.

[XL]

Balor vs. AJ with no storyline > Balor vs. Fatman in drag with storyline.

Literally not a single person is disagreeing with that statement.

[ooTin]

I wonder if Angle will wear tactical gear

He fucking better come out D-lo style with the chest protector, maybe some roller skating knee pads and ankle braces.

[slik]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Daniel Bryan outside of Vince McMahon's limo after hearing the news about Kurt Angle wrestling again <a href="https://t.co/IUdZJ2fFdT">pic.twitter.com/IUdZJ2fFdT</a></p>&mdash; bad hombre (@TeeHaitchGee) <a href="https://twitter.com/TeeHaitchGee/status/921497658971353089?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 20, 2017</a></blockquote>
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[slik]

lol

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">tuesday: SURVIVOR SERIES IS THE ONE SHOW OF THE YEAR WHERE IT’S BRAND AGAINST BRAND!!!<br><br>friday: <a href="https://t.co/xQkl5BfClg">pic.twitter.com/xQkl5BfClg</a></p>&mdash; Brian Maxwell Mann (@BrianMaxMann) <a href="https://twitter.com/BrianMaxMann/status/921490437193465856?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 20, 2017</a></blockquote>
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[Stickman]

Here's your goddamn build

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">“<a href="https://twitter.com/AJStylesOrg?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@AJStylesOrg</a>...our paths haven’t crossed...until <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WWETLC?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WWETLC</a>” - <a href="https://twitter.com/FinnBalor?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@FinnBalor</a> before his match at <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WWESTL?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WWESTL</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/WWENetwork?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@WWENetwork</a> <a href="https://t.co/beAhhS1PiH">pic.twitter.com/beAhhS1PiH</a></p>&mdash; WWE (@WWE) <a href="https://twitter.com/WWE/status/921539907818065920?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 21, 2017</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">BREAKING: <a href="https://twitter.com/AJStylesOrg?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@AJStylesOrg</a> responds to the major <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WWETLC?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WWETLC</a> shake-up! <a href="https://t.co/CRjPxWRRNp">pic.twitter.com/CRjPxWRRNp</a></p>&mdash; WWE (@WWE) <a href="https://twitter.com/WWE/status/921523637508886528?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 20, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Better than most long storylines in the WWE already.

Why is AJ cutting a promo in his gear outside his hotel room?

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Why is AJ cutting a promo in his gear outside his hotel room?

Because he's in South America right now, so probably the only place to do it before flying out.

[Danny Electric]

Maybe they just get Kane to come out an say that the spirit of Katie Vick caused them all to be ill .

[Gerard]

Nice to see Angle back ion the ring, finally, but i suppose we're just meant to forget the Shield borderline threatening Angle on raw. :shifty:

[Savio]

Viral meningitis vs elevated liver enzymes at Wrestlemania

[#BROKEN Hasney]

WresrlingInc was reporting that it's actually mumps, so could have a triple threat.

[KIRA]

WresrlingInc was reporting that it's actually mumps, so could have a triple threat.

Were their parents all anti-vax nutjobs before it bacme a thing?

[Emperor Smeat]

F4W's Bryan Alvarez reported WWE considering using up a Lesnar date for TLC as part of their current panic plans for the event.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Were their parents all anti-vax nutjobs before it bacme a thing?

Bo is a conspiracy theory nutjob so it wouldn't shock me if that came from his parents and him and Bray weren't vaccinated.

F4W's Bryan Alvarez reported WWE considering using up a Lesnar date for TLC as part of their current panic plans for the event.

Read this as a Lesnar date as in he takes a woman out for dinner. Not exactly a thrilling segment.

[#1-norm-fan]

F4W's Bryan Alvarez reported WWE considering using up a Lesnar date for TLC as part of their current panic plans for the event.

Well that seems unnecessary.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Holy shit, what the fuck is happening?

I'm not going to complain about Kurt Angle being back in a wrestling ring, but I never thought it would happen. I thought it was going to be a "let's never talk about this" scenario. They've obviously discussed it and cleared it.

I can understand why people are weird about this. Angle stepping back into a ring should be more than him as a replacement for someone. But then I remembered that Angle might get to interact with Cesaro. I'm not going to cry about that ever.

[Mr. Nerfect]

F4W's Bryan Alvarez reported WWE considering using up a Lesnar date for TLC as part of their current panic plans for the event.

At this point that seems like it would be overkill. At least save something for the next outbreak, jeez.

[Simple Fan]

F4W's Bryan Alvarez reported WWE considering using up a Lesnar date for TLC as part of their current panic plans for the event.

Not really needed when you have Kurt Angle returning and AJ Styles in a interbrand match with Finn Balor. Should be enough to satisfy anyone really wanting to see the Shield that bought tickets and Angle and Styles probably give them more viewer's on the Network than the original plans anyway. Who would he even wrestle is the question?

[Mr. Nerfect]

The way WWE is responding to this, probably Shinsuke Nakamura at this point.

[Simple Fan]

The way WWE is responding to this, probably Shinsuke Nakamura at this point.

That's about the only opponent I'd be down with, that or Samoa Joe if he's ready to return.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Wouldn't surprise me if Joe ends up at the show as an extra "surprise." Wouldn't surprise me if they medically clear Bryan at this point. Got no clue what the fuck is going on.

[KIRA]

Bo Dallas aka Patient Zero should get a raise and a push for all he has contributed.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Apparently TLC is in Minneapolis? And they decided this was going to be a show that they didn't use Brock for?

[ooTin]

Apparently TLC is in Minneapolis? And they decided this was going to be a show that they didn't use Brock for?

Surprise run in by brock...but when?

[Blonde Moment]

Surprise run in by brock...but when?

Balor vs. AJ to turn it into a 3 way?

[Mr. Nerfect]

Surprise run in by brock...but when?

All hell breaks loose at the end.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Actually, I say that Elias trashes Minneapolis and then Brock comes down and kills him.

[Mr. Nerfect]

They've also got Axel, who I believe is getting ironically cheered? Why not put him against Jason Jordan who is getting booed? They sort of tie into the main event too. Put Axel over with the Perfect Plex in front of his grandfather.

[A.J.K]

with all of these illnesses going on, maybe just maybe WWE will clear Daniel Bryan.

[Emperor Smeat]

Not really needed when you have Kurt Angle returning and AJ Styles in a interbrand match with Finn Balor. Should be enough to satisfy anyone really wanting to see the Shield that bought tickets and Angle and Styles probably give them more viewer's on the Network than the original plans anyway. Who would he even wrestle is the question?

Probably would be just him and Heyman addressing Jinder's challenge a day earlier than originally scheduled and eat up some time on the ppv.

Reigns being out really messed up the PPV since the original plans were for the TLC match to have a huge amount of time. Probably in the range of 45 minutes to over an hour.

[Mr. JL]

I like it but there is no way in hell that Kurt Angle is "healthier" than Daniel Bryan.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

with all of these illnesses going on, maybe just maybe WWE will clear Daniel Bryan.

lol no

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Maybe Lesnar comes out and beats up Curtis Axel cause lol

[DrA]

It's interesting how quickly they went to AJ Styles when their backs were against the corner. It's as if they know that's the kind of stuff the fans really want to see, and when there's some emergency and they have to abandon their stupid plans for whatever reason, that's when they realize that they have no other choice but to give the fans what they want as a last resort.

[XL]

At the risk of coming across as an “unpleaseable internet fan” even further; I wouldn’t be having Finn in the paint for this match with AJ.

[Danny Electric]

At the risk of coming across as an “unpleaseable internet fan” even further; I wouldn’t be having Finn in the paint for this match with AJ.

Got to agree with you on this , makes no sense to have the demon persona. He should come out as normal with his 'Balor Club' logo on the screen.

[Danny Electric]

Also due to having a week off work I most likely will be staying up to watch this , first time I've done that in ages.
Got to agree with people's views on Jason Jordan ended up involved somehow , maybe he was helping The Shield all along and he was the one who attacked and tied up Curtis Axel backstage.

[Rammsteinmad]

Angle will make his entrance to get the crowd to pop, but will probably be attacked and "taken out" before the match begins/he takes any relevant bumps. At this point it'll be a 5-on-2 squash against Ambrose and Rollins, until Kane and Strowman will have some kind of disagreement and will brawl off into the crowd and disappear. This evens the playing field a bit so that the SHIELD can get some offence in. From this point either team will win but there's your match. :y:

[Mr. Nerfect]

That's the "smart" way of playing it, but I think people get pissed if Angle is teased and then isn't Angle. If he can't be Angle, don't use him as Angle. That's why this is so weird, because if they are protecting him, then he shouldn't be there, so I assume he's going to do something, which is scary and exciting because I never thought they planned to use him this way (otherwise they would have used him this way).

The Bryan stuff is not as ridiculous as people think too. The stuff with brain injuries is still new footing for medical science and stuff. Obviously Bryan shouldn't be wrestling -- should anyone? He's found doctors who can clear him. I'm sure a large part of the WWE keeping Bryan out of the ring is because they don't want to undercut the medical opinion of their guy, to remain conservative on the issue and partially to keep him in a role where him being the preferred choice is not going to interrupt their story telling. If they are certain Bryan wants to wrestle and he won't cave on the issue, he has the medical opinions he can do it, the idea that Vince won't get the WWE doctor to re-evaluate Bryan and suddenly he is cleared to work part-time is not completely out of the realm of possibility.

I was in the "Bryan will never wrestle for WWE camp" for a little while, but now I'm not sure at all. There's just too much grey area with grey matter. The PR stuff doesn't make sense now, because if they release him he'll go to New Japan and do harder stuff. At least under their roof they can watch him.

It's certainly an interesting time ahead, and I think it's a far bigger story than some people think. There will be a nice, meaty 5-to-10 year contract shoved under Bryan's nose sometime next year, and it could change the direction of the wrestling industry.

[Mr. Nerfect]

It's interesting how quickly they went to AJ Styles when their backs were against the corner. It's as if they know that's the kind of stuff the fans really want to see, and when there's some emergency and they have to abandon their stupid plans for whatever reason, that's when they realize that they have no other choice but to give the fans what they want as a last resort.

It absolutely is. This company knows better, they just don't have to do what they know is better. And it's funny how when they book something people actually want to see, interest seems to go up.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Actually, I say that Elias trashes Minneapolis and then Brock comes down and kills him.

Or Curt Hawkins.

[KIRA]

That's the "smart" way of playing it, but I think people get pissed if Angle is teased and then isn't Angle. If he can't be Angle, don't use him as Angle. That's why this is so weird, because if they are protecting him, then he shouldn't be there, so I assume he's going to do something, which is scary and exciting because I never thought they planned to use him this way (otherwise they would have used him this way).

The Bryan stuff is not as ridiculous as people think too. The stuff with brain injuries is still new footing for medical science and stuff. Obviously Bryan shouldn't be wrestling -- should anyone? He's found doctors who can clear him. I'm sure a large part of the WWE keeping Bryan out of the ring is because they don't want to undercut the medical opinion of their guy, to remain conservative on the issue and partially to keep him in a role where him being the preferred choice is not going to interrupt their story telling. If they are certain Bryan wants to wrestle and he won't cave on the issue, he has the medical opinions he can do it, the idea that Vince won't get the WWE doctor to re-evaluate Bryan and suddenly he is cleared to work part-time is not completely out of the realm of possibility.

I was in the "Bryan will never wrestle for WWE camp" for a little while, but now I'm not sure at all. There's just too much grey area with grey matter. The PR stuff doesn't make sense now, because if they release him he'll go to New Japan and do harder stuff. At least under their roof they can watch him.

It's certainly an interesting time ahead, and I think it's a far bigger story than some people think. There will be a nice, meaty 5-to-10 year contract shoved under Bryan's nose sometime next year, and it could change the direction of the wrestling industry.

Under any other circumstance I'd be all I can't wait till Bryan can GTFO WWE

but like you said I'd prefer him being under survalence DB is normally a smart guy but Ive noticed that he is quite stubborn and willing to be wreckless when it comes to wrestling. I'll take DB wrestling every once in a while if it means he stays healthy.

[Rammsteinmad]

That's the "smart" way of playing it, but I think people get pissed if Angle is teased and then isn't Angle. If he can't be Angle, don't use him as Angle. That's why this is so weird, because if they are protecting him, then he shouldn't be there, so I assume he's going to do something, which is scary and exciting because I never thought they planned to use him this way (otherwise they would have used him this way).

I don't think WWE would care about pissing off the people like that. Considering that this has had a week of build and not even on a televised show, I'm sure they realize there's more money to be made in it, especially from a second-tier PPV. Also, this is the same company that mega-hyped Goldberg's return only to have the match last for a minute, so I don't think they'd be worried about advertising Kurt Angle only to not have Kurt Angle perform in a full capacity.

[Rammsteinmad]

I guess we'll find out tonight. Either way, interest in this event has certainly gone up by about 726%.

[Frank Drebin]

Hope they don't cheap out and not give Angle his pyro.

[ooTin]

Interest up 10X.
WWE gets to use Kurt w/o actually using Kurt.
We the people are dumb and will buy anything.
No pyro and no capes.
Jason Jordan would make more sense.

[Sixx]

This card sucks ass.

Well, never liked it when there was no world title match on a PPV.

[Jordan]

This card sucks ass.

Well, never liked it when there was no world title match on a PPV.

Some of those PPV's are the best though. Canadian Stampede, Badd Blood... well thats all I can think of right now but... still...

[Sixx]

According to wikipedia Canadian Stampede had Taker fight Vader for the title.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Yep there was a title match, just very low key.

[Sixx]

Damn, this was back when Triple H called himself Hunter Hearst Helmsley.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

The Greenwich snob. Him and Mankind's first feud. They beat the fuck out of each other throughout the entire building after opening the show.

[Cool King]

WresrlingInc was reporting that it's actually mumps, so could have a triple threat.

Damn, if it actually is mumps then I feel for them all.

I had mumps about five years ago and it's the worst I have ever felt in my life.

I felt like I was dying at times.