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Bad News Gertner
10-29-2017, 12:01 PM
Via wwe.com

ClockShot
10-29-2017, 12:15 PM
:rofl:

#BROKEN Hasney
10-29-2017, 12:29 PM
Well that sucks. She was a lot more talented that a lot of the girls on Raw.

Hold onto your butts though

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">also don't get too worried as i do not have any names yet.<br><br>but i'm getting word that emma isnt the only one getting release papers today... <a href="https://t.co/kQ9Q4E9YvA">https://t.co/kQ9Q4E9YvA</a></p>&mdash; james mckenna (@chillhartman) <a href="https://twitter.com/chillhartman/status/924670071544385536?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 29, 2017</a></blockquote>
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#BROKEN Hasney
10-29-2017, 12:35 PM
Summer Ray and Darren Young too

http://www.wwe.com/article/emma-darren-young-summer-rae-released

Bad News Gertner
10-29-2017, 12:38 PM
Wow, 3 Divas released on the same day

#BROKEN Hasney
10-29-2017, 12:38 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I guess these are the things that happen when you’re not TRULY ready for <a href="https://twitter.com/WWEAsuka?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@WWEAsuka</a> ��</p>&mdash; M.O.T.H (@itsLioRush) <a href="https://twitter.com/itsLioRush/status/924673902223155200?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 29, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Lol this kid isn't going to last long

Lock Jaw
10-29-2017, 12:43 PM
Damn..... not Emma..... :'(

Bad News Gertner
10-29-2017, 12:44 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I guess these are the things that happen when you’re not TRULY ready for <a href="https://twitter.com/WWEAsuka?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@WWEAsuka</a> ��</p>&mdash; M.O.T.H (@itsLioRush) <a href="https://twitter.com/itsLioRush/status/924673902223155200?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 29, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Lol this kid isn't going to last long

Lol I'm surprised we haven't had a Kevin Owens appearence yet

#1-norm-fan
10-29-2017, 01:09 PM
Damn. As obsessed as WWE is with their public image, how bad does Darren Young have to be the get released? If he were even remotely decent, he probably would have gotten a title run for publicity.

#BROKEN Hasney
10-29-2017, 01:11 PM
Cedric is worried

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="und" dir="ltr">.......�� <a href="https://t.co/LVe2i5yABy">pic.twitter.com/LVe2i5yABy</a></p>&mdash; Cedric Alexander (@CedricAlexander) <a href="https://twitter.com/CedricAlexander/status/924681342226522112?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 29, 2017</a></blockquote>
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slik
10-29-2017, 01:14 PM
I guess at least Emma got to have a ppv match, a long one too, before her relase.

Shisen Kopf
10-29-2017, 01:16 PM
it's ok. Emmalina will be back soon

Destor
10-29-2017, 01:22 PM
Well when you can get people over you're worthless as enhancement talent. Thrilla wont understand this though lol

Sepholio
10-29-2017, 01:30 PM
Asuka was supposed to squash Emma but Emma wouldn't do the job properly lol

Destor
10-29-2017, 02:01 PM
Nah, emma was just supposed to make her look good and failed.

However they should have had asuka squash her.

Lock Jaw
10-29-2017, 02:23 PM
Gonna miss Emma a lot........

Hopefully they re-sign her later today like last time they fired her.......

Lock Jaw
10-29-2017, 02:23 PM
"Oops, we meant to say Dana Brooke"

Impeccable
10-29-2017, 02:32 PM
Of the three (so far), the only one that doesn't surprise me is Summer Rae.

For a two month period, I enjoyed the Prime Time Players (mid 2015) and it was refreshing to see WWE make and Darren make references to his sexual orientation without making it a gimmick or exploiting it in some way ("Rainbow is my favourite colour").

I don't see why they couldn't put him as part of the Titus Brand at the moment and play on that past relationship. But they've obviously got "nothing for him".

Emma just plain baffles me.

Droford
10-29-2017, 02:35 PM
Summer Rae was still with the WWE..lol

erickman
10-29-2017, 02:36 PM
so when is Zach rider going. summer ray would be a good heel on impact maby she can buy the cherry bomb name from allie.

Droford
10-29-2017, 02:36 PM
Also Bob Backlund failed

erickman
10-29-2017, 02:37 PM
Summer Rae was still with the WWE..lol

yeah that was a waste a good heel with nothing to do

DAMN iNATOR
10-29-2017, 02:46 PM
Damn..... not Emma..... :'(

She found out the hard way that not only was she totally not ready for Asoka, but WWE were no longer ready for her.

She could've had a ton of success given the right chance, but as usual, probably #LOLVince

Sucks about alternate-universe Cena and Bubba's separated-at-birth sister too, although I kinda don't blame them with Summer.

Darren could have been made great again by Bob Backlund if he'd had more than like probably a half-dozen matches at most with that gimmick. I actually really wanted it to work our, and maybe he'd get the IC or US belt after a solid build to the upper-midcard and a several month chase, and bless Bob, he really tried, but it wasn't meant to be.

DAMN iNATOR
10-29-2017, 02:49 PM
"Oops, we meant to say Dana Brooke"

She was saved after Vince coerced her into flashing him her breasts in private. #HerToo :shifty:

Bad News Gertner
10-29-2017, 03:10 PM
Wow, Damninator mocking sexual assault victims. Somebody needs to pray more.

Destor
10-29-2017, 03:12 PM
Thats a new low

Destor
10-29-2017, 03:12 PM
#hatehasnoplacehere

mike adamle
10-29-2017, 03:17 PM
Very classless Damninator. Your grandmother would be disgusted.

Bad News Gertner
10-29-2017, 03:34 PM
For shame.

SlickyTrickyDamon
10-29-2017, 03:51 PM
"Oops, we meant to say Dana Brooke"

Nah her boyfriend just died. That saved her a few months of grieving.

Ruien
10-29-2017, 04:31 PM
Emma is fucking hot. Bring her back. Lose Baley or something.

Bad News Gertner
10-29-2017, 04:52 PM
Damninator trying to hide the evidence instead of apologizing. Sinking to a new low.

#BROKEN Hasney
10-29-2017, 04:53 PM
Lio Rush has put an apology in his Twitter after he was getting chewed out by a bunch of WWE wrasslers on Twitter.

Bad News Gertner
10-29-2017, 04:54 PM
Now if only Damninator would.....

KIRA
10-29-2017, 04:57 PM
Wow right after Emma finally got to have a really good match

Summer Rae has been gone forever

How is Dolph Ziggler still in this company he and the WWE seem to hate each other.

DAMN iNATOR
10-29-2017, 05:02 PM
So it's no secret. I fucked up big time with that post, and I admit that. It was inexcusable and in extremely poor taste on my part.

All I can do is humbly apologize for that post to everyone who saw it and was offended by it. I have a rather nasty tendency to make posts without thinking them through or even just not making them in the first place. I sincerely feel terrible making fun of victims of an awful situation that nobody should ever have to go through, and I hope you all will accept my apology as sincere and not just me backpedaling after being called out on it.

I've said all I feel I know how to on the situation, and I hope we will all be able to move forward and leave it in the past where it belongs.

RP
10-29-2017, 05:04 PM
I had no clue Darren Young was gay.

Evil Vito
10-29-2017, 05:10 PM
Some thoughts on the releases. From a pure performance standpoint, I was surprised Darren Young lasted as long as he did. He was approaching 8 years on the main roster and I really don't think he improved much at all during that span. It's not that he was a horrible in the ring, he was just...there. I'd say he was the better in-ring performer of the Prime Time Players, but that's not saying much as Titus is dreadful.

But unlike Titus, Young didn't have the mic skills necessary to translate to another on-screen role. He seemed so uncomfortable in all of those "Make Darren Young Great Again" vignettes with Bob Backlund. That mini-push he got where he faced The Miz for the IC Title on PPV felt like it was really just a last ditch effort to get him over and give them a reason to keep him around...and when that failed he was doomed to working horrible matches with Titus that got no reaction at all right after the draft.

The cynic in me thinks WWE would've gladly kept him around as long as he wanted to be there purely so they can say they employ their first openly gay wrestler. But to his credit, he wants to keep wrestling and appears to have busted his ass during his injury and he's gotten himself into great shape. He's been cleared to return for months, and I'd rather he get the chance to wrestle elsewhere rather than WWE awkwardly shoehorning him into a half-assed push or not using him at all. Maybe he'll get seasoning elsewhere and come back improved, if not I'm sure they'd be willing to bring him back in an ambassador role down the line.

Summer Rae's release is no real shocker. She hasn't been on TV since before the draft and she got hurt for a while. Apparently she'd been cleared to return since May but I hadn't heard any buzz of her coming back and the majority of her social media posts were related to her modeling career. I think this release was more of a formality than anything. Wouldn't surprise me if she's finished with the wrestling business but you never know.

Emma though......oh lord. One of the first in a long line of misused NXT call-ups. They clearly had no idea what to do with her when they brought her up and they practically killed off the appeal of her fun babyface character immediately by pairing her with Santino who was stale beyond measure by that point. It was really awkward when she was Evil Emma in NXT while still being regular face Emma on the main roster.

Not really sure what WWE didn't see in her. She was a good worker, seemed to have found her niche as a heel, appealed to a foreign demographic and, because this is WWE we're talking about, being young and really hot surely could've only helped her cause. Especially baffled by it all since they seemed to finally start using her after years of neglect and just had her work two really competitive matches with Asuka. I really don't get it. But I think she'll do wonderfully wherever she goes next, hopefully Stardom.

Lock Jaw
10-29-2017, 05:15 PM
It's like they finally realized "Hey, Emma actually has something to contribute" but then went "You know what, nah, forget it"

Lock Jaw
10-29-2017, 05:16 PM
Conspiracy Theory:

It's a work! Darren and Summer are legit, but Emma is totally a work! She's gonna come back leading Billie Kay and Peyton Royce in an Evil Aussie Stable!

SlickyTrickyDamon
10-29-2017, 05:17 PM
Some thoughts on the releases. From a pure performance standpoint, I was surprised Darren Young lasted as long as he did. He was approaching 8 years on the main roster and I really don't think he improved much at all during that span. It's not that he was a horrible in the ring, he was just...there. I'd say he was the better in-ring performer of the Prime Time Players, but that's not saying much as Titus is dreadful.

But unlike Titus, Young didn't have the mic skills necessary to translate to another on-screen role. He seemed so uncomfortable in all of those "Make Darren Young Great Again" vignettes with Bob Backlund. That mini-push he got where he faced The Miz for the IC Title on PPV felt like it was really just a last ditch effort to get him over and give them a reason to keep him around...and when that failed he was doomed to working horrible matches with Titus that got no reaction at all right after the draft.

The cynic in me thinks WWE would've gladly kept him around as long as he wanted to be there purely so they can say they employ their first openly gay wrestler. But to his credit, he wants to keep wrestling and appears to have busted his ass during his injury and he's gotten himself into great shape. He's been cleared to return for months, and I'd rather he get the chance to wrestle elsewhere rather than WWE awkwardly shoehorning him into a half-assed push or not using him at all. Maybe he'll get seasoning elsewhere and come back improved, if not I'm sure they'd be willing to bring him back in an ambassador role down the line.

Summer Rae's release is no real shocker. She hasn't been on TV since before the draft and she got hurt for a while. Apparently she'd been cleared to return since May but I hadn't heard any buzz of her coming back and the majority of her social media posts were related to her modeling career. I think this release was more of a formality than anything. Wouldn't surprise me if she's finished with the wrestling business but you never know.

Emma though......oh lord. One of the first in a long line of misused NXT call-ups. They clearly had no idea what to do with her when they brought her up and they practically killed off the appeal of her fun babyface character immediately by pairing her with Santino who was stale beyond measure by that point. It was really awkward when she was Evil Emma in NXT while still being regular face Emma on the main roster.

Not really sure what WWE didn't see in her. She was a good worker, seemed to have found her niche as a heel, appealed to a foreign demographic and, because this is WWE we're talking about, being young and really hot surely could've only helped her cause. Especially baffled by it all since they seemed to finally start using her after years of neglect and just had her work two really competitive matches with Asuka. I really don't get it. But I think she'll do wonderfully wherever she goes next, hopefully Stardom.

He looks like another roided freak in the last muscle photo he posted.

Lock Jaw
10-29-2017, 05:19 PM
Darren Young randomly rassled at the house show I was at a few weeks ago.....

Cool King
10-29-2017, 05:20 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en-gb"><p lang="und" dir="ltr">💔</p>&mdash; EMMA (@EmmaWWE) <a href="https://twitter.com/EmmaWWE/status/924695421569716225?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">29 October 2017</a></blockquote>
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Bad News Gertner
10-29-2017, 05:23 PM
Darren Young randomly rassled at the house show I was at a few weeks ago.....

If only you could have saved him :(

Evil Vito
10-29-2017, 05:26 PM
He looks like another roided freak in the last muscle photo he posted.

Lol did you really need to quote that entire post just to respond to one sentence to it?

But yeah, Young pulled a Jinder.

#BROKEN Hasney
10-29-2017, 05:27 PM
First Lio Rush, then DAMN iNATOR and now we have STD body shaming. These releases have brought out the worst in people.

Bad News Gertner
10-29-2017, 05:30 PM
An ugly day in TPWW history

#1-norm-fan
10-29-2017, 05:38 PM
I gotta see this fucking DAMN iNATOR post.

RP
10-29-2017, 05:39 PM
Originally Posted by Observer
Dave Meltzer confirms that Enzo Amore has been released from the WWE. Current plans are to award the Cruiserweight belt to Drew Gulak on Monday nights edition of RAW.

Ruien
10-29-2017, 05:41 PM
Lol shut up RP.

Evil Vito
10-29-2017, 05:45 PM
Lio Rush has already managed to turn some of the main roster against him.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Apologising because people didn't like your joke, not for joking about someone losing their job. Also, try the English classes at the PC. 👍 <a href="https://t.co/tZnaDzqB5K">https://t.co/tZnaDzqB5K</a></p>&mdash; Jack A. Gallagher (@GentlemanJackG) <a href="https://twitter.com/GentlemanJackG/status/924721353567203334?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 29, 2017</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">You aint gonna make it here with the wolves, kid.</p>&mdash; Bray Wyatt (@WWEBrayWyatt) <a href="https://twitter.com/WWEBrayWyatt/status/924713738980249601?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 29, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Droford
10-29-2017, 05:47 PM
Suh..possedly Dolph Ziggler is getting released but that makes no sense since they announced his 2 outta 3 with Roode on SD this week

If course since his contract is supposed to end 10/31 he could lose and get released afterwards

Vastardikai
10-29-2017, 05:48 PM
Is Lio Rush supposed to be a heel?

Emperor Smeat
10-29-2017, 05:55 PM
:( Emma.

Surprised it didn't happen sooner with Summer Rae considering she was in limbo for a lot longer than Emma and similar to Eva Marie, WWE flat out refused to use her even for house show stuff.

Also surprised it didn't happen sooner with Darren. WWE didn't really have a payoff for the stuff he was doing with Backlund and his last gimmick was always going to have a really short shelf life.

#1-norm-fan
10-29-2017, 05:58 PM
I think we can safely say now that Asuka should have squashed her.

Destor
10-29-2017, 06:34 PM
So it's no secret. I fucked up big time with that post, and I admit that. It was inexcusable and in extremely poor taste on my part.

All I can do is humbly apologize for that post to everyone who saw it and was offended by it. I have a rather nasty tendency to make posts without thinking them through or even just not making them in the first place. I sincerely feel terrible making fun of victims of an awful situation that nobody should ever have to go through, and I hope you all will accept my apology as sincere and not just me backpedaling after being called out on it.

I've said all I feel I know how to on the situation, and I hope we will all be able to move forward and leave it in the past where it belongs.
You apologize for being a biggpt often...

Destor
10-29-2017, 06:35 PM
Thought you had changed :nono:

#1-norm-fan
10-29-2017, 06:48 PM
I'd like to offer my services to DAMN iNATOR to be the Backlund to his Young. Just run your posts through me first so we can talk things over and avoid these issues. Together we can make DAMN iNATOR great again.

KIRA
10-29-2017, 06:54 PM
I gotta see this fucking DAMN iNATOR post.

Yep thinking the same thing

not gonna judge him for it I'm just curious

Swiss Ultimate
10-29-2017, 07:06 PM
Summer Ray and Darren Young too

http://www.wwe.com/article/emma-darren-young-summer-rae-released

Wow, 3 Divas released on the same day

:lol:

DAMN iNATOR
10-29-2017, 07:07 PM
It was pretty atrocious. Let's just say I made a poor attempt at gutter humor and compounded it by mocking a hashtag referencing a very topical scandal.

That's why I deleted it and then didn't apologize immediately. I was afraid any apology I might try to make, no matter how sincere, would come off as hollow and like I was only doing so in hopes it would all just magically vanish.

Finally wrote one anyway as sincerely as I could after realizing that while some will read it and accept it, there nonetheless will probably be others who never will no matter how much I tried to emphasize my remorse for my poor decision.

Mr. Nerfect
10-29-2017, 07:13 PM
Damn. As obsessed as WWE is with their public image, how bad does Darren Young have to be the get released? If he were even remotely decent, he probably would have gotten a title run for publicity.

Bingo. The dude is a gay black John Cena lookalike. In the superficial, PR world of WWE, he was a shoe-in for emphasis if he weren't the drizzling shits.

Mr. Nerfect
10-29-2017, 07:20 PM
I think we can safely say now that Asuka should have squashed her.

Yeah, it's a great thing they gave Emma that street cred, hey?

Mr. Nerfect
10-29-2017, 07:23 PM
Haha, what did Lio Rush say? Wouldn't surprise me if he is next.

Ruien
10-29-2017, 07:27 PM
Who is Lio Rush?

Mr. Nerfect
10-29-2017, 07:28 PM
Who is Lio Rush?

A tiny, tiny, tiny guy they just signed off the indies that does a bunch of flips.

Evil Vito
10-29-2017, 07:35 PM
lol Rush took a sit out powerbomb from the top of a ladder through a table and totally no-sold it.

Shocked he got a WWE gig tbh.

#1-norm-fan
10-29-2017, 07:39 PM
Yeah, it's a great thing they gave Emma that street cred, hey?

Gotta make sure this new woman they're trying to push as unbeatable is on par with one who isn't even good enough to be employed apparently.

#1-norm-fan
10-29-2017, 07:41 PM
It was pretty atrocious. Let's just say I made a poor attempt at gutter humor and compounded it by mocking a hashtag referencing a very topical scandal.

That's why I deleted it and then didn't apologize immediately. I was afraid any apology I might try to make, no matter how sincere, would come off as hollow and like I was only doing so in hopes it would all just magically vanish.

Finally wrote one anyway as sincerely as I could after realizing that while some will read it and accept it, there nonetheless will probably be others who never will no matter how much I tried to emphasize my remorse for my poor decision.

Seriously, DAMN. You should accept my managerial offer. I'm a proven problem-solver. I can prevent these issues from ever happening again. I was able to rid the world of Norman Smiley and CyNick. I can help you do the same with this demon who lives inside you and compels you to make inappropriate comments. #MakeDAMNGreatAgain

Bad News Gertner
10-29-2017, 07:52 PM
She was saved after Vince coerced her into flashing him her breasts in private. #HerToo :shifty:

This is the vile post in question. Mocking all those poor sexual assault victims.

Emperor Smeat
10-29-2017, 07:54 PM
lol Rush took a sit out powerbomb from the top of a ladder through a table and totally no-sold it.

Shocked he got a WWE gig tbh.

Probably because he was the only guy crazy enough to desperately want to be on 205 Live. Not even Ricochet was the crazy when he hinted at wanting to go to the WWE.

#1-norm-fan
10-29-2017, 07:54 PM
Oh, good heavens @ DAMNiNATOR post.

mike adamle
10-29-2017, 08:04 PM
This is the vile post in question. Mocking all those poor sexual assault victims.

Not surprising to see Damninator thinks sexual assault is funny. What an awful person.

mike adamle
10-29-2017, 08:05 PM
It was pretty atrocious. Let's just say I made a poor attempt at gutter humor and compounded it by mocking a hashtag referencing a very topical scandal.

That's why I deleted it and then didn't apologize immediately. I was afraid any apology I might try to make, no matter how sincere, would come off as hollow and like I was only doing so in hopes it would all just magically vanish.

Finally wrote one anyway as sincerely as I could after realizing that while some will read it and accept it, there nonetheless will probably be others who never will no matter how much I tried to emphasize my remorse for my poor decision.

These apologies are even worse than the original comment. So forced and insincere. :nono:

Danny Electric
10-29-2017, 08:06 PM
Looks like their clearing house a little to make way for some new ladies from NXT , I suppose with all the recent call ups from the Mae Young classic , the return of Paige and the rumours of matches with The MMA Four Horsewomen.
I wouldn't be surprised to see Dana Brooke got cut or a couple more.

Mr. Nerfect
10-29-2017, 08:07 PM
The aim is off on that joke, but is anyone truly offended? I think people are just jumping on you because it's weakness, DAMN. You've said sorry (as you should have), but don't grovel any more. Move on and just try to think before you try so hard to be funny.

RP
10-29-2017, 08:08 PM
Emma needs to practice her blowjobs.

Mr. Nerfect
10-29-2017, 08:08 PM
Looks like their clearing house a little to make way for some new ladies from NXT , I suppose with all the recent call ups from the Mae Young classic , the return of Paige and the rumours of matches with The MMA Four Horsewomen.
I wouldn't be surprised to see Dana Brooke got cut or a couple more.

More will come. WWE needs to reel in that spending.

RP
10-29-2017, 08:09 PM
Maybe we'll finally get those Summer Rae fuck pix now.

RP
10-29-2017, 08:10 PM
I love that I can talk about giving Alexa Bliss a colonoscopy with my teeth and tongue all day long, but if DAMNinator makes a Harvey Weinstein joke, all hell breaks loose.

Ol Dirty Dastard
10-29-2017, 08:11 PM
Obviously wanted to kill Asuka's cred to "humble" her or something stupid.

#1-norm-fan
10-29-2017, 08:12 PM
Should have just jobbed her to Kane on Raw.

RP
10-29-2017, 08:12 PM
I really didnt see it that way after the PPV match, but then to have a rematch the next night and it basically went the same way..maybe.

Mr. Nerfect
10-29-2017, 08:14 PM
I love that I can talk about giving Alexa Bliss a colonoscopy with my teeth and tongue all day long, but if DAMNinator makes a Harvey Weinstein joke, all hell breaks loose.

Yeah, exactly. Stop running from the dogs, DAMN. Tasteless and not funny though. At least your joke had teeth, RP.

Mr. Nerfect
10-29-2017, 08:15 PM
Obviously wanted to kill Asuka's cred to "humble" her or something stupid.

Yeah, they do that shit, but they do it with everybody. It's just how they think "popular" wrestlers wrestle now. I'm not even going to say faces, because I'm not even sure if they believe in faces and heels anymore.

mike adamle
10-29-2017, 08:22 PM
Damninator, don't take advice from Noid, he's worse than you and probably has a lower IQ than you.

Danny Electric
10-29-2017, 08:23 PM
More will come. WWE needs to reel in that spending.

I've said it before but there's no way they can keep calling up people to the main roster without making cuts.
I know you need guys to put people over and guys like Hawkins to job all the time but look at Roode and Kanelis or even Nakamura to a certain extent there's no real time for character development or they spend two weeks off TV and just carry on with a feud that people have forgotten about .

Mr. Nerfect
10-29-2017, 08:25 PM
mike adamle still measures intelligence in IQ, which were dropped as reputable indicators a long time ago. It's probably because he's a fucking idiot.

#1-norm-fan
10-29-2017, 08:26 PM
lol Completely forgot Mike Kanelis is in WWE now. What the fuck have they done with him?

Fignuts
10-29-2017, 08:27 PM
The aim is off on that joke, but is anyone truly offended? I think people are just jumping on you because it's weakness, DAMN. You've said sorry (as you should have), but don't grovel any more. Move on and just try to think before you try so hard to be funny.

No one actually gives a fuck.

Mr. Nerfect
10-29-2017, 08:29 PM
I've said it before but there's no way they can keep calling up people to the main roster without making cuts.
I know you need guys to put people over and guys like Hawkins to job all the time but look at Roode and Kanelis or even Nakamura to a certain extent there's no real time for character development or they spend two weeks off TV and just carry on with a feud that people have forgotten about .

It's harsh to say, because you don't want people to lose their jobs or anything, but wrestling is a performance business. Like anything in that field, it comes a time for people to come and go. Not everybody should get the 10 years of service medallion that was such a big thing when Taker got it in 2000.

For the product to remain sharp and stark (Ha! Remain?), you need to cycle guys and gals in and out. It doesn't need to be hostile and it doesn't necessarily mean they are not good at their jobs. Leaving the WWE might mean that they can get more varied training by working in front of different crowds, with different talent, with different styles. You can then come back and be more valuable and make more money than you ever would have made simmering where you were.

Mr. Nerfect
10-29-2017, 08:31 PM
lol Completely forgot Mike Kanelis is in WWE now. What the fuck have they done with him?

I completely forget that too. I wonder if Vince was sold a bill of goods on him, and got told that he's built like a Superstar, etc. Then he came in and he looks just slightly better than your average indy guy.

Maria is pregnant, so it probably ruined "plans" for him. But what plans did they really have? And why can't he just do the same things and make honey-boo-boo faces to the camera telling his gorgeous pregnant wife that he misses her?

I think they just got him and kind of have buyer's remorse.

GD
10-29-2017, 08:33 PM
Lio Rush :nono:

Danny Electric
10-29-2017, 08:33 PM
They should send him to NXT and repackage him

Emperor Smeat
10-29-2017, 08:35 PM
lol Completely forgot Mike Kanelis is in WWE now. What the fuck have they done with him?

He's the very rare case of it not being entirely WWE's fault for his current status.

WWE only really cared for Maria but he came as a package deal and their plans to use him got derailed early because of outside reasons (Maria getting pregnant, Mike in the middle of a drug rehab).

Mr. Nerfect
10-29-2017, 08:37 PM
I'd just cut my losses with Mike Bennett to be honest. Thanks for coming, we'll keep paying Maria until after your baby is born, etc. He doesn't really bring anything you need. Lio Rush can fuck off too.

Mr. Nerfect
10-29-2017, 08:37 PM
Wait, they hired Kanellis while he was in rehab?

Danny Electric
10-29-2017, 08:38 PM
It's harsh to say, because you don't want people to lose their jobs or anything, but wrestling is a performance business. Like anything in that field, it comes a time for people to come and go. Not everybody should get the 10 years of service medallion that was such a big thing when Taker got it in 2000.

For the product to remain sharp and stark (Ha! Remain?), you need to cycle guys and gals in and out. It doesn't need to be hostile and it doesn't necessarily mean they are not good at their jobs. Leaving the WWE might mean that they can get more varied training by working in front of different crowds, with different talent, with different styles. You can then come back and be more valuable and make more money than you ever would have made simmering where you were.

But also from the performers point of view why would you want to stay somewhere where you can't do your job properly, go somewhere else and be a star. I know money would play a part in it but some of these guys could make more money on the indies.

Also they need to use NXT more to repackage or if someone has had a lengthy injury lay off to ease them back in.

Danny Electric
10-29-2017, 08:39 PM
They could easily just change him back to Mike Bennett and the fans would just think he's a new wrestler.

Emperor Smeat
10-29-2017, 08:49 PM
Wait, they hired Kanellis while he was in rehab?

Think he took advantage of WWE's drug rehab program very early into his WWE run. Not sure if it was because he relapsed or just wanted to use WWE's vast resources to clean up for good. Only was revealed online by Maria after he was already 3-4 months into the program.

Before that most of the online speculation was the usual WWE misusing the wrestler or were already bored with the gimmick.

Mr. Nerfect
10-29-2017, 08:51 PM
But also from the performers point of view why would you want to stay somewhere where you can't do your job properly, go somewhere else and be a star. I know money would play a part in it but some of these guys could make more money on the indies.

Also they need to use NXT more to repackage or if someone has had a lengthy injury lay off to ease them back in.

I think they should send people back to NXT more often than they do. Not all the time, but occasionally it would help out both products. You're right on the point about going and making more money elsewhere. It is better for the wresting industry, in general, and that in turn helps WWE.

Mr. Nerfect
10-29-2017, 08:53 PM
Think he took advantage of WWE's drug rehab program very early into his WWE run. Not sure if it was because he relapsed or just wanted to use WWE's vast resources to clean up for good. Only was revealed online by Maria after he was already 3-4 months into the program.

Before that most of the online speculation was the usual WWE misusing the wrestler or were already bored with the gimmick.

I'm glad he's getting clean and whatever. Good for him. I'd be pissed if I were WWE though. I mean, Maria shouldn't have to help getting pregnant, and substance abuse issues can be indicative of larger problems beyond an individual's control, but for them to just show up and then both be out? It would require patience, so it's a good thing you don't have to deal with them immediately.

mike adamle
10-29-2017, 08:57 PM
Maybe they should have a storyline where Mike Kanellis relapses and Maria's baby ends up a crack baby

mike adamle
10-29-2017, 09:00 PM
Actually a better storyline would have Mike Kanellis pimp his preggo wife out for drugs. Maybe one of those guys could be the real baby daddy and we could get a feud outta that. Erick Rowan vs. Mike Kanellis sounds like a good feud there.

Emperor Smeat
10-29-2017, 09:00 PM
I'm glad he's getting clean and whatever. Good for him. I'd be pissed if I were WWE though. I mean, Maria shouldn't have to help getting pregnant, and substance abuse issues can be indicative of larger problems beyond an individual's control, but for them to just show up and then both be out? It would require patience, so it's a good thing you don't have to deal with them immediately.
They really should have went to NXT first since this would have been a non-issue but guess WWE really wanted Maria that much to include a "No NXT time" in their deal.

He's been used sporadically but his gimmick is pretty much dead without Maria and without a direction for it.

Mr. Nerfect
10-29-2017, 09:05 PM
Actually a better storyline would have Mike Kanellis pimp his preggo wife out for drugs. Maybe one of those guys could be the real baby daddy and we could get a feud outta that. Erick Rowan vs. Mike Kanellis sounds like a good feud there.

That's the best idea you have ever had.

Mr. Nerfect
10-29-2017, 09:07 PM
They really should have went to NXT first since this would have been a non-issue but guess WWE really wanted Maria that much to include a "No NXT time" in their deal.

He's been used sporadically but his gimmick is pretty much dead without Maria and without a direction for it.

I dunno, I think the very signing of them and then Kanellis saying "oh yeah, I'm using your program" right away would bother me whether it was main roster or not.

Shisen Kopf
10-29-2017, 09:42 PM
Darren Young will end up in lolTNA or whatever it's called. He can't join Ring of Honor bc he lacks honor.

Shisen Kopf
10-29-2017, 09:45 PM
Also, can someone please tell me what is so great about Asuka? She's doesn't spit like other Jap rasslers like Muta or Tajiri. Maybe she only spits for Vince?

Fignuts
10-29-2017, 09:56 PM
Her style is kick

Emperor Smeat
10-29-2017, 10:35 PM
Recent rumor going around the net hinted at Rhyno and Slater getting released next.

Shisen Kopf
10-29-2017, 10:43 PM
Slater has kids. Not fair.

KIRA
10-29-2017, 10:48 PM
Slater is so underrated don't get me wrong he's great in the role he's in I'm just saying I think he should get even more exposure.

WWE logic is weird they punish you for making noise about just sitting in the back.

Enzo is an annoying loudmouth dick and he's closing out shows.

Mr. Nerfect
10-29-2017, 10:52 PM
I heard something about a tag team. I thought it might be Gallows & Anderson, but worried that it might be Harper & Rowan. Slater & Rhyno going would not be a huge surprise. Rhyno's having a bit of a feel-good run at the moment. I'm sure he's made his money and has had the time of his life. Heath Slater is a bit sadder for me, because I do think he is a damn good worker who didn't have to go to excess in order to eventually get over. I feel like the indies wouldn't be as kind to him, as hilarious as it would be to see a bad-ass Heath Miller in New Japan.

My Final Heaven
10-29-2017, 11:00 PM
Also, can someone please tell me what is so great about Asuka? She's doesn't spit like other Jap rasslers like Muta or Tajiri. Maybe she only spits for Vince?

•A• She was working as a heel in NXT.

•B• She was on a year and a half undefeated streak.

People cream their jeans over Heels with long undefeated Title runs. See - Neville, Rusev.

My Final Heaven
10-29-2017, 11:07 PM
http://shop.wwe.com/on/demandware.static/-/Sites-main/default/dwa059f638/images/large/W12317.jpg

Mr. Nerfect
10-30-2017, 12:07 AM
Slater has been main roster for 7 years now. He's done really well.

Emperor Smeat
10-30-2017, 12:30 AM
According to the Observer, Emma's release and others seem to be leaning towards being sudden decisions by the WWE and not something planned out in advance (ex. Spring Cleaning). Also doesn't think this was done for budget cutting reasons or to make room for Ronda's expected deal.

The booking of both Asuka-Emma matches makes him lean towards this being a spur of the moment decision by the WWE. Same for Emma's response to being released.

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Tom Guycott
10-30-2017, 01:20 AM
Damn. As obsessed as WWE is with their public image, how bad does Darren Young have to be the get released? If he were even remotely decent, he probably would have gotten a title run for publicity.

I didn't know he was still employed, honestly. Haven't seen or heard anything about him since that... whatever the fuck push that was supposed to be with Bob Backlund. He was *alright*, but not spectacular. He wasn't employed as long as JTG was... was he?

And that "publicity" thing was kind of a double edged sword. It wasn't WWE's idea, and they weren't ready for it. Things that aren't their idea are usually glossed over, ignored, or sometimes looked down upon. You'd think they'd have gotten behind it, but at the same time, it is prob'ly a good idea they didn't since it would have likely been so much rehashed Billy & Chuck nonsense.

Tom Guycott
10-30-2017, 01:26 AM
I heard something about a tag team. I thought it might be Gallows & Anderson, but worried that it might be Harper & Rowan. Slater & Rhyno going would not be a huge surprise. Rhyno's having a bit of a feel-good run at the moment. I'm sure he's made his money and has had the time of his life. Heath Slater is a bit sadder for me, because I do think he is a damn good worker who didn't have to go to excess in order to eventually get over. I feel like the indies wouldn't be as kind to him, as hilarious as it would be to see a bad-ass Heath Miller in New Japan.

This is going to sound like I'm shitting on the guy, but I hope Heath gets released. It did wonders for the other members of 3MB, with Jinder and McIntyre returning to championship pushes. Take time away, freshen up, and come back in a couple years without so much of the comedy act jobber stink; maybe in a badass heel sneak attack on some popular babyface champion. Let him get wins, put the freaking guy over way more than they have him counting lights, and give him a bit of a serious edge.

Tom Guycott
10-30-2017, 01:29 AM
I completely forget that too. I wonder if Vince was sold a bill of goods on him, and got told that he's built like a Superstar, etc. Then he came in and he looks just slightly better than your average indy guy.

Maria is pregnant, so it probably ruined "plans" for him. But what plans did they really have? And why can't he just do the same things and make honey-boo-boo faces to the camera telling his gorgeous pregnant wife that he misses her?

I think they just got him and kind of have buyer's remorse.

With him, I don't think it's so much buyer's remorse, it is that they wanted Maria back, and he was just the preorder bonus. Now that their actual investment is going to be out squeezing out a kid, they lost what they were really after. In a way, seems like it is almost the opposite of Marc Mero and Sable.

Mr. Nerfect
10-30-2017, 01:35 AM
According to the Observer, Emma's release and others seem to be leaning towards being sudden decisions by the WWE and not something planned out in advance (ex. Spring Cleaning). Also doesn't think this was done for budget cutting reasons or to make room for Ronda's expected deal.

The booking of both Asuka-Emma matches makes him lean towards this being a spur of the moment decision by the WWE. Same for Emma's response to being released.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Based on the way the match went it was either not decided at that point, of if it was, people who should know didn't. <a href="https://t.co/jTC04ErNJQ">https://t.co/jTC04ErNJQ</a></p>&mdash; Dave Meltzer (@davemeltzerWON) <a href="https://twitter.com/davemeltzerWON/status/924737958577553408?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 29, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Emma was surely on the bubble for a while. She's been fired before and brought back only because people backstage liked her. The heel shtick didn't exactly go over gangbusters, and Emmalina was a disaster. Her most recent run came about because she was complaining, and then the talent she worked with got less over instead of more over.

It may not have been something that was officially decided years ago, but this isn't a shocking turn of events. When I saw her name in the thread title, I immediately thought "she's been released."

Mr. Nerfect
10-30-2017, 01:37 AM
This is going to sound like I'm shitting on the guy, but I hope Heath gets released. It did wonders for the other members of 3MB, with Jinder and McIntyre returning to championship pushes. Take time away, freshen up, and come back in a couple years without so much of the comedy act jobber stink; maybe in a badass heel sneak attack on some popular babyface champion. Let him get wins, put the freaking guy over way more than they have him counting lights, and give him a bit of a serious edge.

I see your point, but I'm not sure if Heath has the same stuff in him. Drew McIntyre was always someone they had main event designs on. Jinder Mahal sucks, but is ripped and fits into their plans. Heath is kind of at the level you'd expect Heath to get to. But maybe he can change minds away?

I wouldn't bet on him being released though.

Tom Guycott
10-30-2017, 01:56 AM
That's the funny thing. He has that charisma that WWE doesn't let people show on TV most of the time. (For example: remember when NOBODY thought Big Show could not do anything except be generic Andre clone until that SNL cameo? Kinda like that.) I got more enjoyment from watching the guy on JBL and Cole show than on a wrestling show that we're SUPPOSED to see him on. Kinda similar to someone like Rusev. I was adamantly against that guy since NXT, and if my opinion on him were solely from a RAW/Smackdown standpoint, I'd be calling for his head. But he does shit on social media that's fucking funny, or great, or worlds better than the boring meathead foreign heel shit they have had him doing since the dawn of time.

On TV, Slater is a whiny pussy who loses all the time. If that's all that's being put forward on national television, of course he looks like the world's biggest sucka. That's where both Drew and Jinder were before. Yes, there are other things at play with Mahal, but he's making the most of it, he's not David Otunga levels of bad and a big red mark against him is that hotshotting from jobber to number one contender in literally one week... there was no ride to take; no climb to power, and nothing to solidify him as being able to stay champion credibly... even the most chickenshit of heels started getting legit wins after awhile.

McIntyre could have been booked to be a badass last time, but Vince just got bored with him one day soon after putting the man over his goddamn self on a televised promo.

Heath could use a fresh coat of paint. Even if they don't release the guy, send him to Florida. Seriously, they don't have to treat that shit as a demotion. Let him shed the last vestiges of that One Man Rock Band crap, let him go in the ring, and give him some sort of direction to go in instead of just another guy who is just on the roster.

Mr. Nerfect
10-30-2017, 03:10 AM
Backstage charisma sadly means nothing. I mean, you can see Rusev's in little things like the Ziggler program and the League of Nations stuff. You've got to have it out there in front of people. I guess booking and that sort of stuff can get in the way, but that's the world we live in, sadly.

I'm not sure if Slater is the sort of guy to even go like the guys who are labelled as being able to "go" in today's day and age, you know? I'd like to see him given a chance, but I think that if he's gone he'll just get to make cameo appearances every now and then. Unless he does really draw eyeballs to his work outside the WWE.

#BROKEN Hasney
10-30-2017, 04:58 AM
Her style is kick

She's not even the captain of team kick.

Evil Vito
10-30-2017, 08:32 AM
If you had told me in 2010 that Heath Slater would be the last of the original eight Nexus numbers to still be actively competing in WWE, I would've laughed in your face. Slater was insufferable being booked as a squeaky clean babyface on the first season of of NXT and he looked absolutely ridiculous trying to play a ruthless bad guy in all of those group beatdowns.

Fair play to him for figuring out not long after that his path to success was to go the comedy route. He's been fun to watch ever since 2012 or so.

SlickyTrickyDamon
10-30-2017, 08:46 AM
Enzo Amore needs to gift Lio Rush a fruit tree.

Mr. Nerfect
10-30-2017, 10:11 AM
If you had told me in 2010 that Heath Slater would be the last of the original eight Nexus numbers to still be actively competing in WWE, I would've laughed in your face. Slater was insufferable being booked as a squeaky clean babyface on the first season of of NXT and he looked absolutely ridiculous trying to play a ruthless bad guy in all of those group beatdowns.

Fair play to him for figuring out not long after that his path to success was to go the comedy route. He's been fun to watch ever since 2012 or so.

He's not even an upsetting level of comedy to me. In the ring he's actually fairly solid and doesn't goof around too much. He's just a goof outside it. That's why I'm not sold on him leaving, because they don't really have anyone else who does what he does. I can see Rhyno moving on, but I think that will just free up Slater to do other things for them.

Savio
10-30-2017, 12:13 PM
If you had told me in 2010 that Heath Slater would be the last of the original eight Nexus numbers to still be actively competing in WWE, I would've laughed in your face.

Whoa, rude.

Heyman
10-30-2017, 12:16 PM
The WWE have released their three best cocksuckers. :(.

RP
10-30-2017, 12:26 PM
Summer Rae looks like she is probably a world class cocksucker.

Gerard
10-30-2017, 01:08 PM
Obviously wanted to kill Asuka's cred to "humble" her or something stupid.

They generally bring in the Iron Sheik for all Humbling related matters.

RP
10-30-2017, 01:17 PM
Like, i bet Summer Rae practices tongue rolls on banana's and shit. Fuck me I love a good tongue roll.

Heyman
10-30-2017, 02:31 PM
Like, i bet Summer Rae practices tongue rolls on banana's and shit.

I bet the same thing can be said about Darren Young.

RP
10-30-2017, 02:34 PM
Ya but he's black...bleh

KIRA
10-30-2017, 02:42 PM
She's not even the captain of team kick.

She is the Vanguard of Team kick in fact I'd argue shes kinda pulling her punches these days

Stickman
10-30-2017, 03:56 PM
The womens division is spread over two shows, so each show basically has 5 wrestlers. Not sure why they woukd release one with a bit of skills like Emma.

Summer Rae nobody cares because she was pretty terrible and was basically a hold over from the Diva bimbo era.

Destor
10-30-2017, 03:57 PM
The womens division is spread over two shows, so each show basically has 5 wrestlers. Not sure why they woukd release one with a bit of skills like Emma.

Summer Rae nobody cares because she was pretty terrible and was basically a hold over from the Diva bimbo era.
Because that part is false

Cool King
10-30-2017, 04:08 PM
Looks like their clearing house a little to make way for some new ladies from NXT , I suppose with all the recent call ups from the Mae Young classic , the return of Paige and the rumours of matches with The MMA Four Horsewomen.
I wouldn't be surprised to see Dana Brooke got cut or a couple more.

I completely forgot about the existence of Paige until now.

Why not just release her instead of Emma?

Cool King
10-30-2017, 04:09 PM
Ah, just remembered.

The Rock's stupid movie.

That's why.

Anybody Thrilla
10-30-2017, 04:18 PM
He's not even an upsetting level of comedy to me. In the ring he's actually fairly solid and doesn't goof around too much. He's just a goof outside it. That's why I'm not sold on him leaving, because they don't really have anyone else who does what he does. I can see Rhyno moving on, but I think that will just free up Slater to do other things for them.

But do they NEED anyone to do what he does?

XL
10-30-2017, 04:52 PM
Looks like their clearing house a little to make way for some new ladies from NXT , I suppose with all the recent call ups from the Mae Young classic , the return of Paige and the rumours of matches with The MMA Four Horsewomen.
I wouldn't be surprised to see Dana Brooke got cut or a couple more.

I completely forgot about the existence of Paige until now.

Why not just release her instead of Emma?

Ah, just remembered.

The Rock's stupid movie.

That's why.

:(

Sepholio
10-30-2017, 05:01 PM
If you had told me in 2010 that Heath Slater would be the last of the original eight Nexus numbers to still be actively competing in WWE, I would've laughed in your face. Slater was insufferable being booked as a squeaky clean babyface on the first season of of NXT and he looked absolutely ridiculous trying to play a ruthless bad guy in all of those group beatdowns.

Fair play to him for figuring out not long after that his path to success was to go the comedy route. He's been fun to watch ever since 2012 or so.

Wait, is Husky Harris not an original Nexus member?

Emperor Smeat
10-30-2017, 05:08 PM
No. He joined after they started the feud with Cena and some original guys left.

Evil Vito
10-30-2017, 05:21 PM
No. He joined after they started the feud with Cena and some original guys left.

Yup. Ditto for Michael McGillicutty.

Anybody Thrilla
10-30-2017, 05:41 PM
They were both season 2.

Anybody Thrilla
10-30-2017, 05:42 PM
Season one from memory:

Daniel Bryan
Wade Barrett
Heath Slater
Skip Sheffield
Michael Tarver
David Otunga
Justin Gabriel

...anyone else?

Anybody Thrilla
10-30-2017, 05:43 PM
Oh yeah, haha, Darren Young

Ultra Mantis
10-30-2017, 06:17 PM
Summer Rae was possibly my favourite seasonal women's wrestler.

mike adamle
10-30-2017, 06:59 PM
Actually a better storyline would have Mike Kanellis pimp his preggo wife out for drugs. Maybe one of those guys could be the real baby daddy and we could get a feud outta that. Erick Rowan vs. Mike Kanellis sounds like a good feud there.

They should have Maria be like Sunny and have her just fuck everybody while Mike Kanellis plays Chris Candido. Have Mike walk in on Maria getting plowed by Paul Heyman and he could breakdown and cry. It would garner such sympathy and he could take on Brock Lesnar at the PPV.

My Final Heaven
10-30-2017, 07:14 PM
Summer Rae was possibly my favourite seasonal women's wrestler.

Even better than Winter from TNA & Autumn Gordon? :eek:

DAMN iNATOR
10-30-2017, 07:49 PM
Even better than Winter from TNA & Autumn Gordon? :eek:

Winter, aka Katie Lea Burchill in WWE was quite beautiful.

Bad News Gertner
10-30-2017, 07:50 PM
Heath Slater baby! Been down since day one.

DAMN iNATOR
10-30-2017, 07:58 PM
Heath Slater baby! Been down since day one.

What's your favorite team he's been in, Nexus aside?

I thought 3MB were funny at times, Rhyno & Slater started well, but have hardly been used on RAW. I actually thought Slater-Gator was quite entertaining, and I felt they both played off each other well and had pretty good chemistry.

Rhyno & Slater are awesome too...why does Vince ignore that they're on the RAW roster? Get them involved in matches with the other like 3-4 teams once in a while, maybe even The Revival, assuming they're still teaming upon returning from injury.

Mr. Nerfect
10-30-2017, 09:05 PM
But do they NEED anyone to do what he does?

I don't think so, but they might seem to.

Mr. Nerfect
10-30-2017, 09:09 PM
The womens division is spread over two shows, so each show basically has 5 wrestlers. Not sure why they woukd release one with a bit of skills like Emma.

Summer Rae nobody cares because she was pretty terrible and was basically a hold over from the Diva bimbo era.

Emma's not very good at working heel. Her opponents end up less over than before they started. She might fair better as a babyface, but she would be #4 baby, at best, on whatever show she is on.

Just on Summer Rae: People seen to forget she had an active run as a bitch heel in NXT. I don't want to say she was great or anything, but she actually helped get Sasha and Charlotte over, from memory. She had catchy, although generic, theme music too. Paige, Emma, Summer and, as a visiting coach, Natalya were kind of like a pre-Horsewomen.

Bad News Gertner
10-30-2017, 09:27 PM
What's your favorite team he's been in, Nexus aside?

I thought 3MB were funny at times, Rhyno & Slater started well, but have hardly been used on RAW. I actually thought Slater-Gator was quite entertaining, and I felt they both played off each other well and had pretty good chemistry.

Rhyno & Slater are awesome too...why does Vince ignore that they're on the RAW roster? Get them involved in matches with the other like 3-4 teams once in a while, maybe even The Revival, assuming they're still teaming upon returning from injury.

Slater and Gabriel were great. Slater-Gator was my favourite.

Tom Guycott
10-31-2017, 01:40 AM
If you had told me in 2010 that Heath Slater would be the last of the original eight Nexus numbers to still be actively competing in WWE, I would've laughed in your face.

But being fair to that timeframe, we also had the impression that Wade being world champion was an inevitability, Skippy was doomed because of his shitty "what it do" gimmick, Justin Gabriel was relatively safe because of his "sinister" dive, Bizzaro Cena was a thing that was bound to happen and not something that would just be used as a one-off joke, and everyone was jizzing themselves at Michael Tarver lurking in backstage cameos.

What a simpler time it was.

Mr. Nerfect
10-31-2017, 01:53 AM
Didn't Michael Tarver turn out to be completely crazy or something? He's still working on the independents in the Florida region as Monster Tarver.

#BROKEN Hasney
10-31-2017, 05:46 AM
IT'S NOT OVER YET

Mike Johnson said that there'll be more talent added to 205 Live within the next coming weeks and there may be more releases on the way, he was told that whoever doesn't go on the European tour, is more than likely on the cutting room floor.

Mr. Nerfect
10-31-2017, 07:33 AM
I just pray they live Johnny Gargano off 205 Live. Roderick Strong and Hideo Itami I can see. Oney Lorcan and Danny Burch make the weight limit, but I'm not sure they'll use them while Kendrick and Gallagher are doing their thing. But maybe they plan to get a tag team division going there?

Big Vic
10-31-2017, 08:15 AM
Lio Rush has just been released.

#BROKEN Hasney
10-31-2017, 08:39 AM
Gallows and Anderson have removed "WWE Superstar" from their Twitter bio. They might just be trolling though.

Evil Vito
10-31-2017, 09:25 AM
Mike Johnson went onto Taz's show and confirmed Itami is going to 205 Live

Destor
10-31-2017, 10:32 AM
They need to let KENTA go

Evil Vito
10-31-2017, 10:55 AM
Apparently they're also planning to sign Rockstar Spud and put him on 205 Live

#BROKEN Hasney
10-31-2017, 10:59 AM
Apparently they're also planning to sign Rockstar Spud and put him on 205 Live

Damn, watch out NJPW Juniors. WWE is signing the best cruiserweight talent from around the world!!

Evil Vito
10-31-2017, 11:13 AM
Spud is gonna look like a midget even compared to most of the other cruisers.

I could understand bringing him in as an annoying manager or something but trying to give him any sort of actual push would be comical.

#BROKEN Hasney
10-31-2017, 11:19 AM
As Enzos manager/occasional wrestler, it could be pretty hilarious. YOU GOTTA GET THROUGH SPUD TO GET TO 'ZO. He's 5 feet tall and you can't teach that.

erickman
10-31-2017, 11:28 AM
Spud is gonna look like a midget even compared to most of the other cruisers.

I could understand bringing him in as an annoying manager or something but trying to give him any sort of actual push would be comical.

yeah he was only a little taller then hornswoggle, maby he can be the new hornswoggle

#BROKEN Hasney
10-31-2017, 11:32 AM
yeah he was only a little taller then hornswoggle, maby he can be the new hornswoggle

He's 11 inches taller than Hornswoggle. Him and Lio Rush are about the same size.

XL
10-31-2017, 11:48 AM
Spud is a great personality.

Stickman
10-31-2017, 12:25 PM
Just on Summer Rae: People seen to forget she had an active run as a bitch heel in NXT. I don't want to say she was great or anything, but she actually helped get Sasha and Charlotte over, from memory. She had catchy, although generic, theme music too. Paige, Emma, Summer and, as a visiting coach, Natalya were kind of like a pre-Horsewomen.

I don't think getting over in NxT corellates to success in WWE. I'm curious what nxt ratings are like. I seldom watch it and I'm sure it's mainly smarks that actually watch. It's basically an indy fed under the WWE banner. As we all know, being over in the Indys doesn't always translate to wwe.

Rammsteinmad
10-31-2017, 12:58 PM
Spud is a great personality.

:y:

#1-norm-fan
10-31-2017, 01:42 PM
Spud could definitely be a useful addition. He was always fantastic in whatever role they gave him in TNA.

Simple Fan
10-31-2017, 02:34 PM
Agree Spud would be a great addition to 205 live. Would be much better at what Gulak is doing with Enzo than Gulak actually is.

Simple Fan
10-31-2017, 02:35 PM
Summer Rea is the one I was most bummed about. When they did let her wrestler I thought she was pretty good and she always had a good grasp of her character.

Mr. Nerfect
11-01-2017, 12:20 AM
I don't think getting over in NxT corellates to success in WWE. I'm curious what nxt ratings are like. I seldom watch it and I'm sure it's mainly smarks that actually watch. It's basically an indy fed under the WWE banner. As we all know, being over in the Indys doesn't always translate to wwe.

Oh, definitely not, but Summer is kind of a forgotten figure in this revolution narrative they are telling. She was hired from the world of lingerie modelling, but she could also be presented as being as important as an Alexa Bliss or Alicia Fox, surely.

I heard an estimate of 400,000-500,000 people. More than watched Broken Matt Hardy, but less than watch lions humping on the Discovery Channel.

Mr. Nerfect
11-01-2017, 12:22 AM
Lio Rush has just been released.

I can't find anything about it, but please. It's not like the dude is going to offer anything that is indispensable.

Emperor Smeat
11-03-2017, 10:07 PM
Sawyer Fulton became the next one released.

Following the departures of Emma, Darren Young, and Summer Rae earlier this week, another wrestler has been released from their WWE contract.

NXT's Sawyer Fulton posted a statement on Twitter today announcing that he's no longer with the company. He wrote that he worked as hard as possible to come back after being injured in 2016, but it didn't end up working out. He noted that he's going to continue in pro wrestling and vowed to get back to WWE in the future.


Also NXT trainee Leo Gao although his release seems to be related to a serious neck injury suffered in August and WWE being very wary after he got medically cleared recently.

Danny Electric
11-03-2017, 11:28 PM
Spud is a great personality.

Agreed
Should start a new West Midland faction with Bate , Dunne and Seven.

Mr. Nerfect
11-04-2017, 04:21 PM
Sawyer Fulton became the next one released.

Also NXT trainee Leo Gao although his release seems to be related to a serious neck injury suffered in August and WWE being very wary after he got medically cleared recently.

That sucks for those guys, but I guess some things just don't work out. Sawyer Fulton would be able to get a following by going over to Japan.

Fignuts
11-04-2017, 04:33 PM
They need to let KENTA go

KENTA was dead long before he got to WWE. If they released him, he'd still be Hideo Itami wherever he went.

Mr. Nerfect
11-04-2017, 04:35 PM
Since they have this weird love/hate relationship with Enzo, they should have KENTA kick the crap out of him.

DAMN iNATOR
11-04-2017, 11:02 PM
As Enzos manager/occasional wrestler, it could be pretty hilarious. YOU GOTTA GET THROUGH SPUD TO GET TO 'ZO. He's 5 feet tall and you can't teach that.

I actually was thinking the same. I haven't seen any of his work in TNA, but they'd make such a great pairing.

RP
11-04-2017, 11:36 PM
I will be jacking off to Summer Rae's tongue roll tonight.

Emperor Smeat
11-06-2017, 02:14 AM
Add the recent winner of Tough Enough to the list so far.

PWI reported Josh Bredl got released during the weekend and apparently due to suffering from lingering concussion-related issues.

Similar to Rush, his stock in the company took a big hit when he mocked other wrestlers in the company in 2016 and never ended up recovering from it.

Tom Guycott
11-06-2017, 02:28 AM
Weird. I thought he got released ages ago, much like I assumed Sawyer Fulton was already gone since he (from my point of view) disappeard from Sanity. Wonder who else will get shitcanned that I don't know still works for them?

Maybe they'll re-release JTG.

Oh, or the pyro guy. Since they don't need pyro anymore for even Kane or Brock, that guy's on the chopping block.

Sepholio
11-06-2017, 05:14 AM
Its amazing that the most anyone has ever talked about Emma is after she got fired and not while she was employed.

Outsider
11-06-2017, 05:39 AM
Agreed
Should start a new West Midland faction with Bate , Dunne and Seven.

The Aston Villians.

Mr. Nerfect
11-06-2017, 06:02 PM
Its amazing that the most anyone has ever talked about Emma is after she got fired and not while she was employed.

That's because WWE has heeled themselves up, so whenever they stand opposite anybody they look like the bad guys.

* Jimmy Jacobs was part of a sub-par creative team, but when he gets released for hanging out with guys mocking the product, he's suddenly a genius responsible for brilliant ideas that just weren't allowed to flourish.

* The Young Bucks steal creative property of WWE, who in their good graces, let them use it for years. They then decide to try and get attention by going to one of WWE's shows and trying to act cooler than it. Apparently it guffaws people when WWE says "Stop using our shit that you don't own" after that.

* Emma doesn't matter. Emma continues not to matter. Emma is given chance to matter; doesn't take it. Emma doesn't matter. Emma is fired because she doesn't matter. Internet: Emma matters!

I don't feel sorry for WWE in any of this, because this is how they have cultivated their public perception, but the best way to be seen as a genius and the best in the world at what you do is to get turned down by them.

Lock Jaw
11-06-2017, 06:07 PM
I miss Emma.......

Mr. Nerfect
11-06-2017, 06:09 PM
Google Images is a better friend to you than WWE will be.

Lock Jaw
11-06-2017, 06:14 PM
I miss Emma as more than just an image, though.....

Mr. Nerfect
11-06-2017, 06:44 PM
Did you know her personally?

Lock Jaw
11-06-2017, 06:55 PM
Not yet

Mr. Nerfect
11-06-2017, 07:37 PM
Heh.