TPWW Greatest Manager of All Time Tournament: Finals

[#1-norm-fan]

Bobby Heenan

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vs

Paul Heyman

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3rd Place Matchup:

Jimmy Hart

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vs

Paul Bearer

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[Bad News Gertner]

Heenan and Hart. Easy choices.

[Destor]

Easy peasy

[DAMN iNATOR]

Heenan and Hart. Easy choices.

💯

[hb2k]

Easy vote, ham 'n' eggers.

[Mr. Nerfect]

This was the easiest round of the lot.

[Shisen Kopf]

Heenan and Hart. Easy choices.

This

[Blonde Moment]

Pretty straightforward

[#1-norm-fan]

Well, this Hart-Bearer matchup for 3rd was completely unnecessary.

[Destor]

Nah without it bearer would have been 3rd....

[#1-norm-fan]

Hart was 3rd seed already with 77 votes to Bearer's 73.

[Destor]

Yeah...but in my head the guy who lost to the winner is 3rd...

[Emperor Smeat]

Voted for Heenan as the greatest and Hart as 3rd place.

During the whole tournament was leaning towards Bearer as my 3rd place spot after Heyman and Heenan but switched after actually looking up how many guys Hart managed. Never realized how huge the list was and with some really notable names I completely forgot about him managing.

[Ezra]

Heenan and Hart.

[Destor]

Now that we're here: heyman isnt as good as this reflect IMO... The test of a great manager is takkng workers who arent very good and getting heat for them. Heyman takes guys whod be over without him a cuts their promos. I dont think ticket sales go up thanks to his work he just accents strong acts. He does it well enough to crack a top 10 probably but theres a slew of guys who were far more integral to their guys success.

Heyman is like...desert. you dont need him to have a meal but its a welcome addition.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

lol the one person who voted for Heyman

[#1-norm-fan]

Now that we're here: heyman isnt as good as this reflect IMO... The test of a great manager is takkng workers who arent very good and getting heat for them. Heyman takes guys whod be over without him a cuts their promos. I dont think ticket sales go up thanks to his work he just accents strong acts. He does it well enough to crack a top 10 probably but theres a slew of guys who were far more integral to their guys success.

Heyman is like...desert. you dont need him to have a meal but its a welcome addition.

Yeah. I think Heyman dominating to this point was a bit much. Cornette's an easy #2 for me. The man made people wanna see him and his guys get murdered. And that's not even really an exaggeration.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Heyman was also the defacto manager as promoter/owner for an entire company. Everybody in ECW was a project for him.

[Destor]

Manager =/= booker and/or promoter

[Destor]

If it did we need to redo this and add vince

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Vince was manager of the Corporation and should have been included.

[#1-norm-fan]

Jeeeeeeeeeesus

[Big Vic]

Vince was manager of the Corporation and should have been included.

This is true, restart the tourney

[Mr. Nerfect]

Now that we're here: heyman isnt as good as this reflect IMO... The test of a great manager is takkng workers who arent very good and getting heat for them. Heyman takes guys whod be over without him a cuts their promos. I dont think ticket sales go up thanks to his work he just accents strong acts. He does it well enough to crack a top 10 probably but theres a slew of guys who were far more integral to their guys success.

Heyman is like...desert. you dont need him to have a meal but its a welcome addition.

Heidenreich says hello. And the careers of Curtis Axel and Cesaro didn't exactly skyrocket, did they? Did Heyman actually get anyone shit over?

[Big Vic]

TBF, Axel would have never been IC champ if it wasn't for Heyman.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Yeah. I think Heyman dominating to this point was a bit much. Cornette's an easy #2 for me. The man made people wanna see him and his guys get murdered. And that's not even really an exaggeration.

Cornette is so under-appreciated on here. People vote with their hearts and not their minds though.

[Mr. Nerfect]

TBF, Axel would have never been IC champ if it wasn't for Heyman.

Well he wouldn't have been IC Champ if it wasn't for that push. I'll agree with you there. Was that push entirely conditional on Heyman? He should probably thank The Rock too.

[Sepholio]

TBH Heyman promos are my favorite thing about WWE for like the last 5 years. I literally care more about a mouthpiece than the performers.

[Destor]

Heidenreich says hello. And the careers of Curtis Axel and Cesaro didn't exactly skyrocket, did they? Did Heyman actually get anyone shit over?yeah no one really benifited

TBF, Axel would have never been IC champ if it wasn't for Heyman.

Nah they gave him both heyman and the belt to help him get over. Neither worked

[Big Vic]

Well he wouldn't have been IC Champ if it wasn't for that push. I'll agree with you there. Was that push entirely conditional on Heyman? He should probably thank The Rock too.

And Fandango for getting concussed.

[Mr. Nerfect]

That too.

[hb2k]

An interesting follow-up to this would be a Greatest Promo tournament.

[#1-norm-fan]

I've got a few lined up. Wasn't gonna do a flat out "Greatest Wrestler" tournament since we've already got the Better Wrestler thing and for those debates to happen. Greatest promo would be interesting though.

[#1-norm-fan]

This was definitely the one to get out of the way first though. Can't think of any other "Greatest..." that would be this cut and dry and anticlimactic.

[Blue Demon]

Heenan....and Bearer. Heenan is the greatest of all time. Bearer was a supporting character to one of my favourite gimmicks....and they were a pretty much perfect fit for each other.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Miz would get way too high in the greatest promo tournament. I say do it.

[DAMN iNATOR]

This was definitely the one to get out of the way first though. Can't think of any other "Greatest..." that would be this cut and dry and anticlimactic.

Indeed. The wrestling forum posters (myself included, FTR) seem to be quite the tough bunch to please when it comes to any kind of threads involving voting. You can please some of the people all the time, and vice-versa, but it's exceedingly difficult to please everyone all the time.

[DAMN iNATOR]

Miz would get way too high in the greatest promo tournament. I say do it.

He'd nonetheless probably be forced out pretty easily against the likes of a Jericho/Rock/Austin match-up though.

[Lock Jaw]

I've got a few lined up. Wasn't gonna do a flat out "Greatest Wrestler" tournament since we've already got the Better Wrestler thing and for those debates to happen. Greatest promo would be interesting though.

Greatest Mullet please

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

greatest mullet would easily be the best tourney.

[Maluco]

I 3rd greatest mullet as the next choice, for the nominations thread alone

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

MULLET-MANIA!

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

MULLET-CLUB!

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

3rd best mullet of 1987

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

tom zenk?

[hb2k]

Dan Spivey has a chance of winning that tournament. It's a really shady mullet, the type that belongs on a guy you'd read about in the news.

[Bad News Gertner]

A Mullett with bangs

[DaveWadding]

Nah, Shawn Michaels' mullet from the Royal Rumble 95 is by far the winner of that tournament.

[#1-norm-fan]

Personally, I'm a fan of the Nasty Boys mullets. It's like a swerve mullet. Short on top... then no hair at all on the sides to make you think that's the end of the story... and then BAM! Party in the back.

[Sixx]

Hogan takes it the whole level. Not short hair on top but no hair at all!

[Sixx]

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[Sixx]

It's a skullet!

[#1-norm-fan]

Skullet. Not a mullet. DQed.

[hb2k]

At it's worst, Beefcake's mullet was sublime. Always thought it was the sweet irony of the Barber gimmick.

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I'd also like to nominate an underrated shady mullet - Barry Horowitz:

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And finally, the one that may run away with the Undisputed title, Kona Crush:

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[Sixx]

Mike Awesome also had a sweet one. Pretty much only thing I remember him for.

Barely recognized him after he cut his hair.

[Bad News Gertner]

Lightening Foot Jerry Flynn wants in on this

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[Bad News Gertner]

As would Brian Lee

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[Sixx]

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The youngest of the Hardy brothers.

[Lock Jaw]

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MY NAME IS FINLAY, AND I LOVE TO MULLET

[Sixx]

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The youngest of the Hardy brothers.

And of course I mean Hardy Boys the detectives, because obviously this dude has a detective face and could blend in ANYWHERE.

[Bad News Gertner]

Tatanka throwing his name into the ring

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[hb2k]

What I love about Tatanka's audacious 2006 mullet is that it looks as if they actually photoshopped the back on.

[Lock Jaw]

I hope all this has given #1-wwf-fan enough time and inspiration to decide on his next tournament.

If not, I'll give him some more time to mull it over.

[Mr. Nerfect]

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The youngest of the Hardy brothers.

Is that a real person, or did someone Photoshop Tony Chimel into someone impersonating Mr. Perfect?

[Sixx]

Oh, he's real. And he's gonna get you.