WWE RAW 11/13/17 feat. The Return of Booman Reigns, Weekly Braun Time, & Cena's lack of Team Red Loyalty

[GD]

lol Jason

[DAMN iNATOR]

Jordan not even convincing trying to act like he's crying. :nono:

[KIRA]

WHERE IS PAIGE

I know Paige's night is not complete till she gets banged by a stranger hopefully shes not too busy to show up

[owenbrown]

AIDS??

what kind of AIDS?

[Dark One]

Hahahaha holy shit

They even made him say the "the one time a year that Raw and Smackdown go at it in head to head competition" in an emotional monologue.

[DAMN iNATOR]

She's gonna be the fifth member of the Raw Men's Team.

Thought that was already given to Nia.

[Emperor Smeat]

This week's RAW and last week's set of shows is coming off as WWE finally realized how bad Survivor Series card was on paper.

[Triple A]

this is weird

why are they making him so whiny

[Droford]

Jason Jordan treating SS like Mania

[Dark One]

JUST SHOOT MY KNEE UP WITH NOVACAINE AND I'LL CHUG SOME ENERGY DRINKS AND WIN OUR MATCH AT SURVIVOR SERIES, THE ONE NIGHT A YEAR THAT RAW AND SMACKDOWN GO AT IT IN HEAD TO HEAD COMPETITION

[Shisen Kopf]

This sucks. Jason Jordan is a whiny bitch.

[DAMN iNATOR]

Fuck off, Steph.

[KIRA]

lol Jason

I...... wow Jason Jordans acting makes the Bella Twins look like Heath Ledger

[Dark One]

"I won't get another chance like this."

Well, he's not wrong.

[Shisen Kopf]

Replace him with Ric Flair wooooooooooo!

[Emperor Smeat]

I'd laugh if Kurt gives up his spot instead.

[Dark One]

I...... wow Jason Jordans acting makes the Bella Twins look like Heath Ledger

Really hoping Kurt yells "I WISH YOU'D DIED IN THE WOMB"

[owenbrown]

TRIPLE H?!

[rez]

who said HHH earlier to replace JJ?

[Droford]

Fuck

[Lock Jaw]

oh no

It's Time To Play The Game

[GD]

Whoa! Stephanie looks ravishing.

[Triple A]

seems like they are purposefully trying to make Jason Jordan unlikeable

[DAMN iNATOR]

WTF?! :eek:

[Dark One]

People hate Jason Jordan's push so much they just cheered for Stephanie.

[Lock Jaw]

Triple H looking huge

[rez]

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Calling it now: Steph boots Jordan off the team and replaces him with HHH

[Dark One]

Triple H now the biggest face on the roster.

[GD]

https://i.imgur.com/X3lvD.gif

[Dark One]

Survivor Series is now Wrestlemania.

[KIRA]

CHRIST Never thought Id say this but save this segment HHH

[Emperor Smeat]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">It's hard to take any of this seriously when <a href="https://twitter.com/JasonJordanJJ?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@JasonJordanJJ</a> is wearing those trunks <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/RAW?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#RAW</a></p>&mdash; WWE Creative Humor (@WWECreative_ish) <a href="https://twitter.com/WWECreative_ish/status/930275152771866624?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 14, 2017</a></blockquote>
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[DAMN iNATOR]

"The fifth member of Team RAW is me because I've decided I have to put myself over for no reason."

Also fuck Steph, Trips and the ungrateful human garbage crowd.

[Triple A]

wish American Alpha was still in NXT

[Droford]

Raw needs Undertaker and Ric Flair to replace Joe and Balor..

[Dark One]

Crowd turned so hard on Jordan that they A) cheered Stephanie B) demanded HHH pedigree him

ABORT ABORT ABORT

[Evil Vito]

Calling it now: Steph boots Jordan off the team and replaces him with HHH

Knew it. There's the setup for HHH/Angle at Mania. Yawn.

[GD]

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[rez]

seems like they are purposefully trying to make Jason Jordan unlikeable

TNA Claire Lynch

[KIRA]

LOL to people who don't think HHH is a glory hound

[Shisen Kopf]

That guy in the front with the flag needs to be from a better country than Dumpland or whatever place that sad little flag is from.

[owenbrown]

someone do a welfare check on James Steele

[Shisen Kopf]

He's annoying

[Dark One]

Raw needs Undertaker and Ric Flair to replace Joe and Balor..

Raw:
1) Braun
2) Angle
3) HHH
4) Taker
5) Flair

Smackdown:
1) Cena
2) Batista
3) Ghost of Eddie Guerrero
4) Daniel Bryan
5) JBL's limo

[Ruien]

Why is Kurt a bitch? Holy shit. No idea why they are doing this to him. At least Mick spoke up. I am done for the night.

[Shisen Kopf]

Smackdown is The Rock's show. He should lead the team every year and stop making poop movies

[owenbrown]

James Steele right now

https://s3media.247sports.com/Uploads/Boards/156/25156/237219.jpg

[Droford]

Monday night raw is so awesome 40% of their team have wrestled 1 match in the past 8 months

[Dark One]

Smackdown is The Rock's show. He should lead the team every year and stop making poop movies

Good call. He can replace the ghost of Eddie Guerrero.

[KIRA]

someone do a welfare check on James Steele

probably headed to ER with priapism

[Lock Jaw]

Raw needs Undertaker and Ric Flair to replace Joe and Balor..

Steph: "There's no way RAW can lose this match unless, of course, my five all-stars fall victim to five separate misfortunes and are unable to wrestle on Sunday. But that will never happen. Two misfortunes, that's possible... three misfortunes, there's an outside chance..... but FIVE misfortunes?! I'd like to see that!"

[Shisen Kopf]

James Steele right now

https://s3media.247sports.com/Uploads/Boards/156/25156/237219.jpg

That's gross and i am offended by that. Very rude.

[Evil Vito]

Waited 14 years for Sting to compete at WrestleMania, and it was against Triple H.

Waited 12 years for Kurt Angle to compete in another WrestleMania, and it will be against Triple H.

Fuck Triple H.

[Ruien]

Like fuck, Kurt went into a 5v3 match with a bunch of fury. Now he's back to this same old crap of not speaking up or doing anything but standing there looking stupid.

[KIRA]

REALLY AGAIN OH GOD

[Shisen Kopf]

Kind of wish one year at Survivor Fest that they would do Team Bald vs Team Hair. And I'm talking about the divas.

[DAMN iNATOR]

someone do a welfare check on James Steele

He's fine but the following photo of the condition he was found in may be disturbing:

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/enisEolQXnw/hqdefault.jpg

[Shisen Kopf]

That was also offensive Damn.

[rez]

Waited 14 years for Sting to compete at WrestleMania, and it was against Triple H.

Waited 12 years for Kurt Angle to compete in another WrestleMania, and it will be against Triple H.

Fuck Triple H.

blame vince

[Emperor Smeat]

Braun now became the youngest guy in the Men's Survivor Series match with Jordan getting the boot. Might also be the only guy under 35 in the match as well.

[Dark One]

Smackdown overmatched as fuck, AND THEY HAVE ORTON CENA AND NAKAMURA

[Droford]

Where's the nerd meter shirts lol

[DAMN iNATOR]

That was also offensive Damn.

No it wasn't. I put it behind spoiler tags. Very TV-PG.

[GD]

Since Asuka is on RAW's Women's Survivor Series team, it's a lock that they're going to win. Hoping that Smackdown's Men's Survivor Series team gets an upset victory or something.

[Shisen Kopf]

Well, i am offended.

[Lock Jaw]

Since Asuka is on RAW's Women's Survivor Series team, it's a lock that they're going to win. Hoping that Smackdown's Men's Survivor Series team gets an upset victory or something.

Think it is obvious that the RAW team will be torn apart via inner disputes and turmoil

[DAMN iNATOR]

Well, i am offended.

Well then, in that case, there's only one thing to do: #SHUTITDOWN.

[KIRA]

Smackdown overmatched as fuck, AND THEY HAVE ORTON CENA AND NAKAMURA

They'd be overmatched if Triple H got replaced with Asuka

[GD]

Since Asuka is on RAW's Women's Survivor Series team, it's a lock that they're going to win. Hoping that Smackdown's Men's Survivor Series team gets an upset victory or something.

Remember when Cena and Orton annihilated the RAW roster?

[Shisen Kopf]

Kinda hoping there's gonna be a team of Doinks at Survivor Slam

[rez]

Carmella gonna cash in after the Naddy/Bliss match. Naddy will replace Carmella in the tag team match..no matter which match is first.

[Evil Vito]

This might be a good time for the announcers to mention that Joe and Balor won the Dusty classic. How easy is that? Give fans some backstory that Joe and Balor have teamed cohesively before.

[Shisen Kopf]

I don't like Braun Strowman's nickname "the monster among men" is very boring. He should be known as "Super Tall" Strowman. Much better.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Fucking hell, my interest level for Survivor Series was already pretty low, but they just killed it dead. And this is a show that has Brock vs. AJ on it.

[rez]

This might be a good time for the announcers to mention that Joe and Balor won the Dusty classic. How easy is that? Give fans some backstory that Joe and Balor have teamed cohesively before.

Surfer Sting beat Not Yet Undertaker Taker.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Triple H is determined to get himself over as a perceived draw and it's fucking gross.

[rez]

I'm trying to be PC but god darnit, Paige...who are you plucking in the back

[KIRA]

I love that sequence Joe does

[Evil Vito]

Average age of Team Raw: 40.8 (youngest: Braun Strowman, 34)

Average age of Team SmackDown: 40.2 (youngest: Randy Orton, 37 years and 6 months)

May as well see if Sting, Undertaker, Goldberg, or HBK are up to doing one more match.

[KIRA]

The Good Bros. EVERYBODY! One of the best tag teams in Japan

[rez]

original shield. take a shot

[KIRA]

Remember when Dolph Ziggler won Survivor Series by himself

neither did WWE the next night

[rez]

10:54pm TIME FOR THE MAIN EVENT!

[rez]

nevermind..commercials

[Evil Vito]

I'm glad they keep reminding us about the Original Shield. Wouldn't want to confuse them with all of the other iterations of The Shield.

[Lock Jaw]

I'm glad they keep reminding us about the Original Shield. Wouldn't want to confuse them with all of the other iterations of The Shield.

Yeah.... very grateful for this

[Tom Guycott]

They should bring in James Storm to manage Mickie.

I know that was in reference to the pseudo House of Cards bit, but I would totally mark out if I heard "Never send a boy to do a man's job!"

[Emperor Smeat]

Average age of Team Raw: 40.8 (youngest: Braun Strowman, 34)

Average age of Team SmackDown: 40.2 (youngest: Randy Orton, 37 years and 6 months)

May as well see if Sting, Undertaker, Goldberg, or HBK are up to doing one more match.

Also a big sign of WWE's problem with the lack of big youth stars. They barely have any under 35 and those they do have, none have a real mega star feel to them because of terrible booking and development.

Even though the Jordan experiment has been terrible, he could have used a potential rub from that match to develop his stardom more (heel or not).

[Savio]

People join the game:

http://www.tpwwforums.com/showthread.php?t=134183

[Dark One]

"Come celebrate Kalisto's birthday"

That'll put butts in the seats.

[Tom Guycott]

Also LttP: RIP Dana Brooke

[rez]

no way this match is happening..going to SS

[Emperor Smeat]

https://i.imgur.com/cUvVITQ.gif

[Dark One]

BRAAAAUUUUNNNNNNN

[Droford]

Kane will decapitate Braun and raw will be forced to dig up the Undertaker for SS

[Lock Jaw]

"Come celebrate Kalisto's birthday"

https://i.makeagif.com/media/10-20-2015/Spe4Lk.gif

[GD]

Some idiot fan shouting "Trim your beard, Braun"

[Droford]

Yeah..a table will do the job

[Droford]

Oh no

[Droford]

Lol

[Emperor Smeat]

WWE probably going to start deducting pay out of Braun's check to fix all the stuff he constantly breaks.

:lol: at WWE abruptly ending the show like that.

[GD]

Fucking Braun!

[Dark One]

Braun is the greatest cartoon character that ever lived.

[rez]

was that the end? i dont even think they threw the end copyright up. gotta save dat $

[Tom Guycott]

Love Drew Gulak

Equal parts debuting Kurt Angle, 90's "Presidential candidate" Bob Backlund, and Harvard Chris all rolled into one. Falls into a nice niche of "dorky" heel, since almost everyone else up and down the roster is either "cocky" or "chickenshit".

[Mr. Nerfect]

I like it when there are guys in Survivor Series matches that aren't hurt by taking falls. Having guys of difference importance levels allows you to tell more interesting stories.

[Lock Jaw]

Yeah, too bad I don't actually watch 205 Live to see more of him

[Evil Vito]

WWE probably going to start deducting pay out of Braun's check to fix all the stuff he constantly breaks.

Maybe he can be the one to finally break Matt Hardy.

[Tom Guycott]

Miz is burning Corbin's shit to the ground

It's nice that Baron wants to be different, but his "championship belt holding photo" makes it look like Miz is a dual champion... he is getting totally shit on in this feud even when it isn't his fault! And even a live promo with an unusually high number of flubs- almost Steiner-esque I would say- is better than one from Baron in the can.

Also, still can't unsee Axel as Joel Gertner. Give the man a bowtie.

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Would have thought it would be the other way, and New Day, since they're so fond of throwback shit like cosplaying as old wreslters and Iron Sheik boots, would all rock D'Lo's chest protectors for this match.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Did JamesSteele show up tonight?

[Mr. Nerfect]

No, he did not.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I like JamesSteele, but I don't like Triple H, and I'm more down on modern Triple H and pre-Reign of Terror Triple H than most people are.

[Tom Guycott]

Wait.

Did Brock just shake hands with that kid?

I thought Brock didn't give a shit about kids.

Specifically Heath Slater's.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

I like JamesSteele, but I don't like Triple H, and I'm more down on modern Triple H and pre-Reign of Terror Triple H than most people are.

Who cares.

NXT is awesome.

BOW DOWN TO THE KING!

[Tom Guycott]

I like JamesSteele, but I don't like Triple H, and I'm more down on modern Triple H and pre-Reign of Terror Triple H than most people are.

I'm down on Triple H period. He has his moments, but it feels like he isn't nearly as big a deal as they try to pretend he is/was. Case in point: trying to paint Kurt as "over the hill", but Hunter deciding to take off his suit and he's supposed to instantly be the counterbalance to the other team having Cena? He and Angle are practically peers on equal footing, but somehow Hunter is supposed to yet again be this massively dangerous secret weapon and waaayyyy better than Kurt freakin' Angle? The fuck outta here.

"... he.... he did, didn't he? He came out of retirement to beat me. Then, he went away again." -CM Punk

[Mr. Nerfect]

Who cares.

NXT is awesome.

BOW DOWN TO THE KING!

Not at generating stars.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I'm down on Triple H period. He has his moments, but it feels like he isn't nearly as big a deal as they try to pretend he is/was. Case in point: trying to paint Kurt as "over the hill", but Hunter deciding to take off his suit and he's supposed to instantly be the counterbalance to the other team having Cena? He and Angle are practically peers on equal footing, but somehow Hunter is supposed to yet again be this massively dangerous secret weapon and waaayyyy better than Kurt freakin' Angle? The fuck outta here.

"... he.... he did, didn't he? He came out of retirement to beat me. Then, he went away again." -CM Punk

He's such a fucking goober during the Attitude era. I had this idea that he was cool and part of the sculpting of it. Fuck no. He's a dork hanger-on generally getting apathy. When he finally wins the WWF Title, he's not nearly as over as he needs to be. Then Mick Foley breaks his back bending over for Triple H as far as he did to get him ready for WrestleMania, where he's involved in some stunt booking and you consequently get a another great PPV buy out of it, but then he amounts to about the rest as everybody else in a, grant you, very hot year.

Don't get me wrong, his work in 2000 was great. But there's this idea that he's responsible for that being a banner year for the company. That was all The Rock. Then he actually fucks Kurt Angle in the later part of that year. When he came back it wasn't long until he was tanking as a babyface. Since then he has meant nothing to business or my personal enjoyment of the show.

He's obviously significant. I wouldn't argue otherwise. But he's not anywhere near as effective in that significant role as the company makes out, and people just gobble that shit up. When he was active he was constantly cutting down people around him so he would appear taller, and he would shoe-horn himself into stuff he had no business being involved in. That Triple Threat at WrestleMania XXIV -- what the fuck was that about? WrestleMania does better when he's not there, yet he's got to have this giant fucking entrance every year to remind us of how important it is when Triple H comes to town, even though no one gives a fuck.

In 2011 the hottest angle they had somehow became Triple H vs. Nash. In 2012 he's wrestling The Undertaker for the third time at WrestleMania. In 2013 he's beating Brock Lesnar at WrestleMania. In 2014 he tried to get the Punk match. In 2015 he's beating Sting at WrestleMania. In 2016 he's shoe-horned himself into the main event of their biggest show ever. Only a handful of people in the world see Triple H as the opponent of an act they're interested in and get more interested.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Not at generating stars.

You stupid fuck.

Seth Rollins
Roman Reigns
Asuka
Sasha
Bayley
Charlotte.
GLORIOUS!

And the guys that needed a little bit of WWE style/rub

Joe
Balor

Soon the Revival when they can keep from getting hurt.

Also soon AOP. Maybe Gargano? Andrade Cien Almas.

[DAMN iNATOR]

I don't like Braun Strowman's nickname "the monster among men" is very boring. He should be known as "Super Tall" Strowman. Much better.

He's also referred to as a "Mountain of a Man"

[slik]

I was really tired and fell asleep but am caught up now
I'm fine with HHH on the team +++ start of HHH/Angle +++ heel Jordan, who'll probably be revealed to be a fake implanted by THE GAME from the start...

Braun <3 RIP Kane

[slik]

Kind of funny Bray Wyatt lost clean to Jason Jordan

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Not really. It's Bray Wyatt, it's what he does.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

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[Mr. Nerfect]

You stupid fuck.

Seth Rollins
Roman Reigns
Asuka
Sasha
Bayley
Charlotte.
GLORIOUS!

And the guys that needed a little bit of WWE style/rub

Joe
Balor

Soon the Revival when they can keep from getting hurt.

Also soon AOP. Maybe Gargano? Andrade Cien Almas.

None of them are stars, mate.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Remember that photo where Ric Flair was with Charlotte and they didn't even know Charlotte was a wrestler? Yeah.

[Evil Vito]

STD is an even bigger WWE apologist than The CyNick

[RaginRonic]

Did JamesSteele show up tonight?

Doesn't look like it.

Not like this forum needs him to be successful anyway.

This place can get itself over without him blowing his load all over the place here.

Not much of a load anyway, given how sterile he is, after a chimp raped him at the zoo.

XD

[Shisen Kopf]

Was hoping they'd replace Jason Jordan with Tatanka but nope. Triple H as always.

[XL]

I’m by no means a big Bray Wyatt fan but it bugs me how they handle him. Not only the clean pinfall loss, just the way they’re like “Oh, btw Bray is back tonight”.

[Shisen Kopf]

They've ruined the Bray Wyatt character. He needs a new gimmick

[slik]

He should become a fisherman and get a hook like the bad guy in "I Know What You Did Last Summer"

FISHERMAN HOOK BRAY ONLY

[Shisen Kopf]

Just give him a biker surfer gimmick ONLY

[Emperor Smeat]

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[Lock Jaw]

"Braun Strowman emerges from gaping hole"

[Mr. Nerfect]

They don't think anything is broken about Bray. They think they have their new Kane/Mankind, in that they have a guy they can always tell you is a main eventer and people will just believe it. He'll do a spooky promo and people will say "Oh man, that guy's tough" and then he'll lose and it'll somehow help.

[Anybody Thrilla]

I don't want to ruffle any feathers here, but I am very much looking forward to Survivor Series.

[Mr. Nerfect]

It's going to be interesting. Brock vs. AJ could potentially be better than the WrestleMania main event. The elimination tag is going to have lots of "moments." It'll be interesting to see how they fuck it up.

[XL]

It’s a bit of a mixed bag for me; AJ/Brock should be good but I’ve no interest in the other champ vs champ matches even if they do switch some components tonight. They’re all currently heel vs heel matches which is just odd, but the needle wouldn’t move for me if they switch Corbin out for Sin Cara.

The New Day vs Shield should be good, and there’s enough intrigue in the 5 on 5 with the guys in the match and the assorted fringe players (Kane, Zayn, Owens, Jordan, etc)

So 3 matches that I’m interested in, sounds about par for the course if the last few PPVs are anything to go by.

[Emperor Smeat]

Good/Bad news regarding the ratings this week.

The good being it was an increase compared to last week and they had two hours in the 3+ million range for viewers. Also good for the yearly comparison being up considering the NFL season usually murders RAW's ratings.

The bad being the 3rd hour suffering a big drop and caused a gap in the rankings for the WWE. Also possibly a sign of viewer fatigue with main event match antics involving Braun.

Monday’s Raw drew an average of 3,030,000 viewers, up from last week’s 2,841,000 viewers ...

Raw was #2, 3 and 6 on cable in the 18-49 demographic for the night, behind the NFL game, with the third hour at #6 behind SportsCenter and “Love and Hip Hop 8.”

Hourly breakdown:

8PM: 3,262,000
9PM: 3,061,000
10PM: 2,769,000

[#1-norm-fan]

Wait, was that "Braun coming out from a hole in the ring" video from last night? I could have swore they did that exact thing like a year ago with Big Show or someone.