OFFICIAL Survivor Series 2017 thread

[Mr. Nerfect]

I felt Nakamaura was booked very well minus the fact he had to lose early. But his offense was incredible and he used it on Triple H and Kurt Angle.

But that's sort of like saying "that stream train was chugging along quite nicely until it fell off that cliff."

[Mr. Nerfect]

Also, controversial internet opinion: They are making a mistake by going this hard with Braun.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Also, controversial internet opinion: They are making a mistake by going this hard with Braun.

Actually, I just realized Dave Meltzer said the same thing on his show today.

[Lock Jaw]

Noid sheep,,,,,,,

[Destor]

Anyone, with out exception, that they go all in on will be turned by the audience.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Actually, I just realized Dave Meltzer said the same thing on his show today.

Now that Meltzer said it, I'm inclined to agree.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Anyone, with out exception, that they go all in on will be turned by the audience.

There's this current anti-Roman swing that will help anyone not him; but as soon as they get wind there's a "new plan," I think you're right.

[Sting Fan]

Also, controversial internet opinion: They are making a mistake by going this hard with Braun.

While i dont necessarily disagree fans are calling for him and we (IWC) have blasted the WWE for years for not listening. Cant have it both ways.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I kind of disagree with that. You can choose someone the fans want that is able to handle the spot. The fans were calling for Zack Ryder once upon a time. Whoops. And it's not like his reactions are molten. He's the most different thing on a bland show. As soon as you get him to act normally, the crowd will see the mechanics.

[Tom Guycott]

Well, not now. But there was a time when even just the "catering cameos" by Ryder were one of the biggest pops of the night. They didn't need to give the guy the Jinder push, but it seemed like they were *trying* to keep him off TV out of spite.

As for Braun, I don't entirely agree that folks will just instantly be down on him if he's the new direction. He does tick every box that folks think about when they think of what Vince wants, and I for one am super surprised they rode right past that for as long as they did.

What I *am* leery about, however, is that they would try to change what he is. He is a brutal giant. He's about as "immortal" as Undertaker minus scary music. He just wants competition like he's fucking One Punch Man. The company officially gets behind him, and there is a big chance he will start doing some dancing and wearing lime green attire or some silly hat. He'll start getting made to look like a pussy or a coward when there is no need. There is too much history to not consider that WWE would find a way to derail his momentum... and then blame him for it.

[XL]

He could very easily be the new Big Show; flip-flopped from “angry murder machine” to “fun-loving BFG” until nobody cares either way.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Well, not now. But there was a time when even just the "catering cameos" by Ryder were one of the biggest pops of the night. They didn't need to give the guy the Jinder push, but it seemed like they were *trying* to keep him off TV out of spite.

As for Braun, I don't entirely agree that folks will just instantly be down on him if he's the new direction. He does tick every box that folks think about when they think of what Vince wants, and I for one am super surprised they rode right past that for as long as they did.

What I *am* leery about, however, is that they would try to change what he is. He is a brutal giant. He's about as "immortal" as Undertaker minus scary music. He just wants competition like he's fucking One Punch Man. The company officially gets behind him, and there is a big chance he will start doing some dancing and wearing lime green attire or some silly hat. He'll start getting made to look like a pussy or a coward when there is no need. There is too much history to not consider that WWE would find a way to derail his momentum... and then blame him for it.

They gave Zack something. Not much, but they gave him something. And then it turned out he wasn't very good. And he hasn't gotten any better. It actually baffles me that they keep him around.

[Mr. Nerfect]

He could very easily be the new Big Show; flip-flopped from “angry murder machine” to “fun-loving BFG” until nobody cares either way.

I think this is what happens. In professional wrestling, that sounds a bit insulting, but in "sports entertainment," this can constitute a Hall of Fame career.

[hb2k]

Just to drop this here, SCG Radio returns this week to talk all things NXT WarGames and the 2017 Survivor Series. Spitballing about both shows, we discuss everything from the flawed presentation of the main event to the greatness of Styles Vs. Lesnar, issues with Raw Vs. Smackdown, the birth of a star in the Velveteen Dream, the strengths and weaknesses of the revived War Games concept, as well as cover the current lay of the land as WWE looks to embark on their biggest period of the year. A lot of fun, check it out and let me know what you think!

https://squaredcirclegazette.podbean.com/mf/download/ffz6he/SCG_Radio_125_-_NXT_WarGames_and_Survivor_Series_2017.mp3