sexual misconduct in pro wrestling.

[The MAC]

With all the Hollywood revelations of sexual misconduct I thought it would be a good time to talk about the famous, and not so famous incidents in the world of wrestling.

I recently heard on about Lord Alfred Hayes walking up behind people and puttling his mule size pecker in people's hands while their backs were turned to him. Funny yet sick.


Your turn...

[Bad News Gertner]

90% of the wrestlers in Portland and Memphis slept with underage girls.

[Anybody Thrilla]

JBL

[My Final Heaven]

Terry Garvin & Mel Phillips, the gruesome twosome

https://mobile.twitter.com/realwwemelphil

[Big Vic]

VINCE MCMAHON ACCUSED OF SEXUAL HARASSMENT AT TANNING SALON (https://www.pwtorch.com/artman2/publish/wadekellerdotcom/47626.shtml)

Reported the South Florida Sun-Sentinal:

On Sunday, the 22-year-old Tanzabar employee told police that she led McMahon to tanning room No.3 and that McMahon asked if she could use his camera phone to take his picture.

She obliged and then gave the camera phone back to McMahon, who then showed her nude and semi-nude photos of himself on the camera phone, the police report shows.

According to the report, the woman asked McMahon to stop.

Once the 20-minute session was over, McMahon talked to her again, she told police. She walked over to the tanning suite and McMahon followed, closed the door, and tried kissing her, she told police. She pushed McMahon away as he tried to lift up her shirt, she said.

Newspaper reports say that after tanning session, he sat in his car for 20 or 30 minutes before leaving.

[slik]

If that got mainstream press Vince would never resign/step down

[Big Vic]

I think another story came out later where a separate employee disputed the claim. I wonder what ever happened to the case though.

[Evil Vito]

There's probably a ton of wrestlers even in modern day who've unknowingly slept with underage girls who passed the eye test of being older.

[Lock Jaw]

Remember when Vince would just write stories where he could make out with and grope female talent on air? Plus he prob had a giant boner making Trish bark like a dog.

[Destor]

Who wouldnt

[KIRA]

PAT PATTERSON
Vince(I'm 98% sure hes done something)

[Emperor Smeat]

Moolah used to pimp out her wrestling school students to promoters while also taking a huge cut of their pay as an extra insult towards them.

[KIRA]

Yes Moolah was kind of a monster not like Vince but still

[Bad News Gertner]

Patterson was more fucking with straight men who were uncomfortable with homosexuality.

[Arrogance]

Randy Orton used to shit in people's bags...that counts as sexual to some of you.

[Fignuts]

Probably every pre-2000 wrestler

[Lock Jaw]

And most post-2000 wrestlers

[Fignuts]

And most post-2000 wrestlers

I think with WWE being a publicly traded company, they probably have strict guidelines on how their employees should conduct themselves in and out of work. Probably much less of it now.

TNA is probably rife with it though.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Didn't a referee accuse Vince of raping her?

[Bad News Gertner]

Rita Chatterton

[Mr. Nerfect]

Someone probably should have taken her seriously.

[Evil Vito]

Here's Michael Elgin telling a story about pissing on a girl.

"NO! NO! STOP PISSING ON ME!"

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[KIRA]

Patterson was more fucking with straight men who were uncomfortable with homosexuality.

So Patterson's "Cream Team" wasn't a thing?

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Moolah used to pimp out her wrestling school students to promoters while also taking a huge cut of their pay as an extra insult towards them.

Lol loved when Bruce Prichard tip toed around this on his podcast.

[Big Vic]

When did the WWE 'turn' on Moolah? after she passed?

[Big Vic]

Probably should have given that 1998 title run to Mae Young instead of Moolah

[Emperor Smeat]

When did the WWE 'turn' on Moolah? after she passed?

Only a couple years ago I think or at least after Mae Young died.

Same for the only reason they started to mention her less was due to her shady past becomes a bit more public in recent years.

[KIRA]

Only a couple years ago I think or at least after Mae Young died.

Same for the only reason they started to mention her less was due to her shady past becomes a bit more public in recent years.

How is Warrior getting a pass he said some horrific shit in the past

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

He said some fucked up shit and was awful. But Moolah essentially ran a white slavery ring for all intents and purposes.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Well.... Allegedly did.

[Vastardikai]

He said some fucked up shit and was awful. But Moolah essentially ran a white slavery ring for all intents and purposes.

Not all white. Look up Sweet Georgia Brown.

[Tom Guycott]

When did the WWE 'turn' on Moolah? after she passed?

Only a couple years ago I think or at least after Mae Young died.

Same for the only reason they started to mention her less was due to her shady past becomes a bit more public in recent years.

Which is why Carmella's ring gear never ceases to surprise me anytime I see it.

[Big Vic]

Not all white. Look up Sweet Georgia Brown.

At least it was inclusive then.

[Bad News Gertner]

So Patterson's "Cream Team" wasn't a thing?

No. Patterson had a habit of getting drunk at bars and hitting on some of the wrestlers who were uncomfortable with homosexuality to fuck with them. Some took him seriously, and that's where a lot of the stories about Pat come from.


The Cream Team is the name of one of my fantasy football teams though lol

[Bad News Gertner]

Rock and Roll Buck Zumhofe

[Mr. Nerfect]

Jim Barnett ran what was basically that whore house with young football players. Not exclusively wrestling.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I'm fairly certain Shelly Martinez accused Batista of basically harassing her.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Santino Marella says he has seen videos of Jim Cornette raping people.

[Emperor Smeat]

Seems if a wave of accusations happens any time soon, Lalwer is probably the prime suspect or catalyst for it based on some recent comments he made during a recent episode of his podcast show.

The other co-host tried to guide Lawler into making a simple straightforward answer on this topic but Lawler kept making things worse the more he spoke. Even after finally giving a real answer, he randomly decided to rant on not being allowed to say certain things on tv anymore and having to treat women wrestlers with respect now.

http://www.prowrestlingsheet.com/jerry-lawler-sex-allegations-pc-culture/#.WiWzrLQ-dE4

[KIRA]

Rock and Roll Buck Zumhofe

No joke my skin crawls every time I see that dude

[Mr. Nerfect]

Seems if a wave of accusations happens any time soon, Lalwer is probably the prime suspect or catalyst for it based on some recent comments he made during a recent episode of his podcast show.

The other co-host tried to guide Lawler into making a simple straightforward answer on this topic but Lawler kept making things worse the more he spoke. Even after finally giving a real answer, he randomly decided to rant on not being allowed to say certain things on tv anymore and having to treat women wrestlers with respect now.

http://www.prowrestlingsheet.com/jerry-lawler-sex-allegations-pc-culture/#.WiWzrLQ-dE4

Lawler going down would not surprise me. Didn't Brian Christopher also allegedly date rape someone hence JBL harassing him? Oh, and JBL.

[Evil Vito]

Lawler seems like an obvious one. Dude was dating a girl 40 years his junior.

[Destor]

Lawler seems like an obvious one. Dude was dating a girl 40 years his junior.
And that means misconduct?

[Evil Vito]

It's creepy and somewhat of a red flag, yes. Dude is a horn dog. He had a whole chapter of his book devoted to talking about which women in the WWE he wanted to sleep with. And that was when he had a prominent role on television.

Doesn't mean he did it, but there's more than enough out there about Lawler to be suspicious that he's done some shady shit.

[Destor]

He has done some shady shit, fucking women youger than him isnt one ofthem

[Big Vic]

https://cdn2.vox-cdn.com/assets/4660651/Lawler_creep.png

[Destor]

what a monster

[Big Vic]

https://i.imgur.com/o3iWKFN.jpg

[Mr. Nerfect]

And that means misconduct?

If they're not old enough to make informed decisions, then yes it is. Even if they are of age, people are getting fed up of men swooping in and taking advantage of women who haven't matured fully and think it's cool to date a celebrity or rich guy or whatnot. Doesn't mean it's illegal, but the social zeitgeist would definitely consider it "smoke."

[Mr. Nerfect]

People think it's gross when you hang around the school playground trying to find mental, emotional and sexual stimulation, and the excuse "I checked this one's ID, officer" is wearing thin with people.

[Evil Vito]

If they're not old enough to make informed decisions, then yes it is. Even if they are of age, people are getting fed up of men swooping in and taking advantage of women who haven't matured fully and think it's cool to date a celebrity or rich guy or whatnot. Doesn't mean it's illegal, but the social zeitgeist would definitely consider it "smoke."

This.

Look at Hugh Hefner. There were more than a few people uncomfortable with the fact that the dude routinely had a harem of women young enough to be his grandchildren living with him.

Nothing illegal about it and some people might think it's "living the dream" or whatever.......but it's not a surprise people were skeeved out by it.

[Mr. Nerfect]

More and more power dynamics are coming under scrutiny too. Louis CK went down for stuff that was verbally "consensual" because it's widely considered creepy he would even ask and believe the answer. Best to fuck grown up women who ask to see your penis that you aren't kind of the boss of.

[Black Widow]

People think it's gross when you hang around the school playground trying to find mental, emotional and sexual stimulation, and the excuse "I checked this one's ID, officer" is wearing thin with people.Long as they are in HS and not elementary/middle people shouldn't give a fuck.

[Big Vic]

Long as they are in HS and not elementary/middle people shouldn't give a fuck.

There are 13 year olds in high school

[Destor]

If they're not old enough to make informed decisions, then yes it is. Even if they are of age, people are getting fed up of men swooping in and taking advantage of women who haven't matured fully and think it's cool to date a celebrity or rich guy or whatnot. Doesn't mean it's illegal, but the social zeitgeist would definitely consider it "smoke."

This.

Look at Hugh Hefner. There were more than a few people uncomfortable with the fact that the dude routinely had a harem of women young enough to be his grandchildren living with him.

Nothing illegal about it and some people might think it's "living the dream" or whatever.......but it's not a surprise people were skeeved out by it.
They're adults you prudes

[My Final Heaven]

Which is why Carmella's ring gear never ceases to surprise me anytime I see it.

I think that's not so much a "I'm a big fan of Moolah-era wrestling" leotard than it is a "I'm a really big fan of Beyonce" leotard

[My Final Heaven]

https://i.redd.it/am3kaxbt3ftz.jpghttps://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/FdpecQBUpaxcfzztIJcZ9Q--/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjtzbT0xO3c9ODAw/http://l.yimg.com/cd/resizer/2.0/original/a5DQ_84hTd3p5AYbLHI9UbwOaV8

[Black Widow]

There are 13 year olds in high schoolSo i hooked up with older guys when i was 13.


https://i.redd.it/am3kaxbt3ftz.jpghttps://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/FdpecQBUpaxcfzztIJcZ9Q--/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjtzbT0xO3c9ODAw/http://l.yimg.com/cd/resizer/2.0/original/a5DQ_84hTd3p5AYbLHI9UbwOaV8Carmella looks way better.

[Jordan]

No she doesn't are you cray?

[Destor]

Im with the racist on this one

[Black Widow]

No she doesn't are you cray?Nope. Beyonce looked her best in Destiny's Child but now she's not nearly as hot as made out to be.

[Big Vic]

So i hooked up with older guys when i was 13.

How old?

[Black Widow]

How old?25 was the oldest one.

[Big Vic]

See, I'm just not sure I can get behind that.

[Destor]

See, I'm just not sure I can get behind that.
They sure could AMIRITE

[Mr. Nerfect]

They're adults you prudes

To a certain point. Adults are still growing up way into their 20's. In the eyes of the law they are adults too. But the court of public opinion is just getting weary of power dynamics where "control" can be exerted because of someone's time and experience on this planet. And companies and organizations are starting to respond to this court of public opinion.

I mean, I definitely think there is something wrong with someone who dates someone as annoying as a teenager or someone in their early 20's, but it's not even about the morality of it or whether it is right or wrong. You can make a case that it's happening without being on the side of it.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Like, have you spoken to an 18 year old recently? It's a fucking boner killer.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Elgin's been apparently doing loads of creepy shit. Text message screenshots came out about him being controlling and harassing people, all the while bragging about him and Omega being the gajins people go to for advice in NJPW (I bet only one half of that is true and it ain't the Elgin part) and thst his tag partner Cobb smells bad, which he disputes!

[Mr. Nerfect]

Not defending Elgin if those stories are true, but he was a big deal in Japan. He's cooled off so much though. But yeah, what a piece of shit if that's true.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

I mis read it. Elgin didn't do that, one of his trainees and employees sexually assaulted someone, then Elgin was getting her to cover it up for 8 months and had her scared by the way he was doing it.

Since then, Sean Malone (the assaulter) has been fired after it went public and Elgin sold his wrestling promotion Glory Pro. He's also been dropped from 3 bookings.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Holy fuck, that's...not any better, haha.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Only three bookings? Was that all he had?

[Evil Vito]

Man, that Elgin/trainee stuff is pretty dark.

[Destor]

To a certain point. Adults are still growing up way into their 20's. In the eyes of the law they are adults too. But the court of public opinion is just getting weary of power dynamics where "control" can be exerted because of someone's time and experience on this planet. And companies and organizations are starting to respond to this court of public opinion.

I mean, I definitely think there is something wrong with someone who dates someone as annoying as a teenager or someone in their early 20's, but it's not even about the morality of it or whether it is right or wrong. You can make a case that it's happening without being on the side of it.

God damn it noid dont make me hate you

[Black Widow]

See, I'm just not sure I can get behind that.He was hot and rich
so it is what it is.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Only three bookings? Was that all he had?

Honestly don't know, I wouldn't be shocked that some promotions don't give a shit. Kind of hope New Japan do something, but I doubt it for some reason.

Jeff Cobb has a new t-shirt out of it all at least.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BcYgNl7lKt0/

[DrA]

Picturing a stestling sexual harassment story breaking and Dave Meltzer having to keep up with it around the clock.

[Helmsphere]

All I can think about is Monty Brown laughing uncontrollably watching people having sex.

[Mr. Nerfect]

God damn it noid dont make me hate you

Haha, I guess we're just on different ends of the political spectrum with that sort of thing. :lol:

[Mr. Nerfect]

Come on, guys. This is a sexual harassment thread. No need for it to be dark.

[thecc]

https://image.ibb.co/fX6Uxw/IMG_20171208_212924.jpg
Oh boy

[Emperor Smeat]

Supposedly AAWPro refuses to cut their association with Elgin in regards to his recent scandal with the co-owner going as far as trying to get fans to show some compassion instead towards him. Also because the co-owner is really lazy on wanting to change plans for shows he was booked and refusing a request to listen to the other person's story in Elgin's texts. Also could lose out on potential future Cobb bookings since he implied Cobb should have acted like a bitch to the insults.

https://twitter.com/aawdannydaniels/status/939274980298252289
https://twitter.com/aawdannydaniels/status/939277372469194752
https://twitter.com/aawdannydaniels/status/939276194037555200


Also while other indies dropped bookings of Elgin, supposedly IWA-MS actually booked him for a show solely because of this scandal.

[Fignuts]

God fucking damn it.

I really liked Elgin too.

[Fignuts]

Of fucking course IWA booked him.

[Bad News Gertner]

They'll probably have him molest Mickie Knuckles in the middle of the ring

[Fignuts]

Speaking of, check out her sid impression.

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Seems even more fucked up because her thigh is bent instead of the shin.

[Bad News Gertner]

Lol I want to watch that but I don't.

[Bad News Gertner]

Yup, I really wished that I hadn't watched that

[Fignuts]

you're going to. Don't even pretend.

[Fignuts]

https://image.ibb.co/fX6Uxw/IMG_20171208_212924.jpg
Oh boy

Where is this from?

Only text I've seen is him defending his position to the Malone girl. Still fucking wrong, but not as blunt and skeezy as this.

[RaginRonic]

Sexual misconduct in pro wrestling...happens every time the McMahon's open their fuckin' mouths to say anything.

> = P

[thecc]

Where is this from?

Only text I've seen is him defending his position to the Malone girl. Still fucking wrong, but not as blunt and skeezy as this.She posted that last night on Twitter. Can't figure out how to embed on my phone but here's the link. https://twitter.com/Th_BodyElectric/status/939261602544709633

[thecc]

Of fucking course IWA booked him.This doesn't surprise me at all. They booked Devon Moore like a week after he got caught stealing Joey Janelas wallet for fucks sake.

[Fignuts]

oof

[Evil Vito]

Yeesh.

Yeah, Elgin can fuck right off after that.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Hanson of War Machine yelled "You selfish midget motherfucker" at Elgin during the world tag league today ha

[My Final Heaven]

All I can think about is Monty Brown laughing uncontrollably watching people having sex.

Monty Brown has a well known Pounce fetish

[My Final Heaven]

https://i.makeagif.com/media/5-04-2015/uUKMKZ.gif
https://i.imgur.com/hd7rC6V.gif

[Bad News Gertner]

Btw, guess who was one of the original hosts of Vince WBF Body Stars show? Matt Lauer.

[OwenHartFan]

I do think sexual molestation in professional wrestling is quite humorous but I'm a sick puppy.

[Emperor Smeat]

According to the Observer, more people are likely going to come out soon with accusations since he's been hearing a lot of rumblings regarding this topic. The recent Elgin stuff seemed to have swayed more to consider going public with their own terrible stories.

[Anthony Hopkins]

Be careful where you put fava beans, not everyone appreciates them in that spot.

[Mr. Nerfect]

With Rich Swann being outed too, I wouldn't be surprised to see more names dropped in wrestling. This might get upsetting, folks.

And of course IWA booked Elgin for being a piece of shit.

[Emperor Smeat]

Unlike AAWPro with Elgin, Black Label Pro Wrestling pulled Jerry Lawler from an upcoming show(s) due to his comments in a recent Dinner with the King podcast show.

https://twitter.com/BLPMikey/status/939675540885266432

[Mr. Nerfect]

Actually ballsy, given that Lawler is still well-recognized and a star.

[Emperor Smeat]

Observer hinting Elgin is considering filing a lawsuit against the woman who posted screencaps of their conversations. Allegations of the chats being heavily edited and certain things changed to make Elgin's statements look worse than originally said.

https://i.imgur.com/Xjko5nd.jpg

[Fignuts]

I very much hope that's the case, and this chick is just a coniving bitch.

Because I would very much like to continue liking Michael Elgin. If everything is true, then I can't. I've been on the shit list of people who abuse their power and it sucks. Fuck them and everyone like them.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

I very much hope that's the case, and this chick is just a coniving bitch.

Because I would very much like to continue liking Michael Elgin. If everything is true, then I can't. I've been on the shit list of people who abuse their power and it sucks. Fuck them and everyone like them.

Word. On everything.

The thing is, it'd need concrete proof for me to believe that, because doing this just to throw some doubt on your accuser or try to make them afraid is right out of the playbook of someone who does this.

[Fignuts]

It is literally the first thing anyone who is guilty would do, yep.

Glass half full, it's also the first thing someone who was innocent would do.

Fingers crossed.

[Emperor Smeat]

Turns out Elgin is a bigger dirtbag than previously speculated and likely the reason he was threatening a lawsuit was so he could get the victim to stop talking publicly and give himself time to work on another official statement.

This afternoon, Michael Elgin re-appeared on his Twitter account to issue another “final statement”, following his return home from Japan and his appearance in the NEVER 6-Man Man Tag Team gauntlet match at Wrestle Kingdom 12, where he was paired with the said mentioned War Machine. This time, the allegations were far past just the cover-up or mishandling of sexual assault allegations on his student/employee, but also that he had taken part in sexual inappropriateness with the victim several times throughout the year as well.

The alleged victim once again called BS on Elgin's claims of what happened.

http://lastwordonprowrestling.com/2018/01/07/michael-elgin-ends-social-media-blackout-final-statement/

[Emperor Smeat]

Also news regarding an indie promotion called CWF Mid-Atlantic could be popping up soon since they abruptly fired their booker over allegations of "inappropriate behavior" yesterday.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

https://78.media.tumblr.com/42b6eea7cac03f0851784bb3cea76c46/tumblr_p0sxr8l8tx1s05wxzo1_400.gif

Also, the CWF shit:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Last RT: Remember when Stuttsy “liked” a tweet from SCI that was a creeper tweeting a pic of a female fan’s ass; gave a shit explanation in a DM with me; and after I released the convo CWF wrestlers &amp; others came down on me like I was the bad person? ��</p>&mdash; Another day, gotta give ‘em hell! (@PocketVolcano) <a href="https://twitter.com/PocketVolcano/status/950203829697630208?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 8, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Sounds like that happened a while ago, so probably not the reason he was fired. But sounds like a piece of shit too.

[Bad News Gertner]

CWF is a great promotion. It's too bad that fat slob had to fuck it all up.

[Evil Vito]

I don't think NJPW had made a decision yet on Elgin hence why Gedo had War Machine eat the pins at WK and NYD as they were 100% leaving. But hopefully this is the final straw for him.

[Sixx]

CWF is a great promotion. It's too bad that fat slob had to fuck it all up.

Huh?

[Bad News Gertner]

Huh?

"Also news regarding an indie promotion called CWF Mid-Atlantic could be popping up soon since they abruptly fired their booker over allegations of "inappropriate behavior" yesterday"

Referring to Brad Stutts who is a fat slob piece of shit.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Former IPW:UK owner and Spotlight Wrestling Daniel Elder has been trying to get nude pictures of a 16 year old and apparently wasn't the first person that worked at Spotlight to try something. Lovely.

The Stuttsy thing just had a fucking potential mindblowing development if true. This comes from an insider, but like he said, not verified personally.

So here's an UNVERIFIED SCOOP. Stuttsy and that Charlie Armstrong guy were allegedly running a prostitution ring and were discovered trying to recruit a female CWF Mid-Atlantic staffer.

This scoop is completely 100% unverified.

[Bad News Gertner]

Whoa! That's fucking insane if true.

[Sting Fan]

Other than Jerry Lawler I dont know who a single person mentioned in this thread is. I am not sure if thats because im a filthy casual nowadays or there all no names.

Surely this thread is a good excuse for someone to post up the wrestling sleaze post again.

[GD]

https://i.imgur.com/q4m7R9C.png

[Destor]

https://image.ibb.co/fX6Uxw/IMG_20171208_212924.jpg
Oh boy

Ignoring the fact that this is super fakable there is clearly delted texts here.

[Emperor Smeat]

PWTorch recently released a detailed article about the reasons leading to CWF firing their main booker. Ended up being a mix of sexual harassment related stuff and shady business dealings with an outside company helping fund and promote CWF.

A lot of it is still rumored based such as the prostitution ring allegations but way too many pieces were being put together by CWF that scared them enough to severe all ties with Stutts and the outside promoting company.
https://www.pwtorch.com/site/2018/01/10/mitchell-cwf-mid-atlantic-brad-stutts-split/

[Emperor Smeat]

Supposedly the Observer's Dave Meltzer blundered big time with his reporting of the Elgin sexual harassment stuff.

The stuff about possible doctored or edited texts to make Elgin look worse ended up being revealed to come from a Tumblr page speculated to be run by Elgin himself or someone he knows. Same for Meltzer only getting the Elgin side of the story and not bothering to get stuff from the victim's side of the story.

Gets a bit worse when in a recent Newsletter its implied this only became public because Elgin trusted the wrong people and not because Elgin himself is a huge dirtbag.

https://twitter.com/prowrestling/status/951654728991043584

[DaveWadding]

Either way, Jeff Cobb still has an enchanting musk.