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Vince McMahon's XFL 2.0 Football League to be announced today
He'll be doing a press conference for his new media company, "Alpha Entertainment" later this afternoon.
Evolution
01-25-2018, 10:33 AM
I'll watch when it launches. If it's entertaining, I'll stick around for the season.
#BROKEN Hasney
01-25-2018, 10:40 AM
I'm really worried about this.
Worried that if anthems or kneeling is mentioned that I may rupture something laughing so hard.
#BROKEN Hasney
01-25-2018, 10:41 AM
BTW Slik, slight mistake. The trademark registered is, amazingly, UrFL or URFL
http://uk.businessinsider.com/vince-mcmahon-revive-xfl-2017-12
"Your Football League"
Ahahahahaha, I love Vince McMahon
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">.<a href="https://twitter.com/VinceMcMahon?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@VinceMcMahon</a> to make a major sports announcement TODAY at 3PM ET. Follow <a href="https://twitter.com/alphaentllc?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@AlphaEntLLC</a> and watch the LIVE stream on Twitter, Facebook, <a href="https://t.co/GKGkPZYciT">https://t.co/GKGkPZYciT</a> or YouTube. <a href="https://t.co/2tAzIv5Sub">pic.twitter.com/2tAzIv5Sub</a></p>— Alpha Entertainment (@alphaentllc) <a href="https://twitter.com/alphaentllc/status/956542193480724480?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 25, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Evil Vito
01-25-2018, 11:16 AM
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#BROKEN Hasney
01-25-2018, 11:19 AM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">So <a href="https://twitter.com/alphaentllc?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@AlphaEntLLC</a> just trialled a live-stream ahead of their press conference at 3PM E.T.<br><br>This was the final shot.<br><br>Ladies and gentlemen, it’s happening. <a href="https://t.co/n5c4UMkpOf">pic.twitter.com/n5c4UMkpOf</a></p>— The Tag Rope (@tagropemag) <a href="https://twitter.com/tagropemag/status/956553450740944897?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 25, 2018</a></blockquote>
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So glad Head cleaned himself up and found work.
Evil Vito
01-25-2018, 11:26 AM
While XFL is going to be the headline-grabber, I think this is a potentially much bigger, wider-reaching story.
1. It's Vince diversifying his stock, creating a whole other company (advertising "investment opportunities"), that he's going to great lengths to state is outside of the WWE Umbrella. A big part of me sees that and thinks "tax dodge"/"inheritance nest egg".
2. WWE shareholders are, historically, very jumpy at the idea of Vince McMahon not being involved with WWE any more - stock plummeted when Trump "bought" Monday Night RAW. There's a perception that Vince can't do anything but wrestling, and that nobody but Vince can do wrestling
So while telling everyone that this isn't coming from WWE money obviously seems like a way to appease shareholders who might get scared at the idea of a disastrous XFL relaunch, that doesn't completely wash with me, because it still suggests a Vince who, if only out of necessity, will be considerably less involved with WWE.
3. Vince setting up his own company, separate from WWE, and separate from WWE shareholders, makes me think he's at least more open to the idea of selling up than he's ever been before. He's seen the sale of UFC go through, and seen that it hasn't materially affected Dana White's position in the company.
I don't necessarily think he will sell, but I think he's actually thinking about it rather than simply dismissing the thought as he would have a few years ago. With media mergers and buy-outs the talk of the day, and Vince not getting any younger, I can see this being his time to finally sell up - particularly with FOX shopping around and in dire need of content.
4. And this might be the big one. Vince started registering football-related trademarks around the same time that Trump started openly criticizing the NFL. The first obvious thing to come to mind is that Vince is canny enough to capitalize on that, and know that having an alternative league would play well with Trump, and with Trump supporters - who might want to boycott the NFL, but have a tough time committing to it due to them lacking a "Trump-friendly" alternative to shift their attentions to.
The alternate, and frankly more fun explanation, is that Vince moved first. Vince began the groundwork for an XFL reboot, and put in a word with Trump, who began using his platform to systematically undermine the NFL in the eyes of his supporters.
In another lifetime, "Vince McMahon is exerting his influence on the President of the United States" would be an utterly bonkers theory - but we know they're close. And, while Trump spends all his time on Twitter, he only actually follows around 50 people; take out members of his family, his staff, Trump businesses, and FOX News hosts, and you're down to single figures. One of those he follows is Vincent Kennedy McMahon.
Evil Vito
01-25-2018, 11:29 AM
Commissioner Head > Commissioner Roger Goodell
I have no doubt Trump will encourage people to watch it, with he and Vince being long-time friends. And I think with Trump's endorsement it guarantees that first game will be a big ratings getter.
Droford
01-25-2018, 11:35 AM
No eM pleH on head..not head
Droford
01-25-2018, 11:35 AM
Trump will be the first commissioner
#BROKEN Hasney
01-25-2018, 11:35 AM
No eM pleH on head..not head
Head just came out of rehab!
#BROKEN Hasney
01-25-2018, 11:36 AM
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Savio
01-25-2018, 11:47 AM
I expect to see twitter handles on the back of their jerseys now.
Savio
01-25-2018, 11:48 AM
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One thing I hated about this segment was that the X kept changing colors...... Wait I just rewatched this on Youtube and that didn't happen... Did they re touch it?.....Mandela effect?
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I hope Vince personally hands out every XFL uniform like, “HAPPY NEW GEAR! HAAAAAAPY NEW GEAR! HAPPY NEW GEAR, PAL!”</p>— The Ultimate Worrier (@WorrierMN) <a href="https://twitter.com/WorrierMN/status/956568426620825600?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 25, 2018</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Your XFL name is your first pet’s name + your kindergarten teacher’s last name.</p>— jordan (@JordanUhl) <a href="https://twitter.com/JordanUhl/status/956568074135769088?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 25, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Mine is Perry I don't remember
Ol Dirty Dastard
01-25-2018, 11:52 AM
Liz Henwood
Evil Vito
01-25-2018, 11:57 AM
I can't remember my kindergarten teacher's name, so I'll go with the classic porn star name of pet's name + street you grew up on.
MAX DEEPWOOD :cool:
Savio
01-25-2018, 12:00 PM
Can't wait for more of this.
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Anybody Thrilla
01-25-2018, 12:13 PM
Kano Brown.
That's actually not too bad.
#BROKEN Hasney
01-25-2018, 02:06 PM
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#BROKEN Hasney
01-25-2018, 02:39 PM
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20 minutes
Emperor Smeat
01-25-2018, 02:39 PM
If the rumored 2020 launch date ends up being true, that already gives the revival a huge advantage over the original. A lot more time to properly build the league and training for teams.
Quality of games probably still going to be hit-or-miss but not as bad of a disaster like the original league.
#BROKEN Hasney
01-25-2018, 02:44 PM
The Revival are great.
This, not so much.
Anybody Thrilla
01-25-2018, 02:46 PM
The Revival might play in this league, who knows?
Tom Guycott
01-25-2018, 02:59 PM
I honestly am curious as to how this will shake out.
Realistically, the original XFL wasn't as big of a failure as everyone hyperbolically misremembers. Just hope the biggest lesson was learned from the first go-round of nearly complete divorce from wrestling. Do like they did with Linda's political career... short of firing people for mentioning the other product, mayhaps. I mean, having JR in the booth was awesome, but backstage skits and trying to force "angles" (like the one coach who said he wanted no part of any potential wrestling style nonsense and was just there to coach football, and they kept trying to manufacture some drama around him to react to and he kept no-selling).
Savio
01-25-2018, 03:00 PM
You think the new XFL stars will be used to put over the old XFL stars?
#BROKEN Hasney
01-25-2018, 03:01 PM
Why are they just doing the WWE 2k18 advert without Snoop Dogg?
#BROKEN Hasney
01-25-2018, 03:01 PM
yeah, 2020
#BROKEN Hasney
01-25-2018, 03:02 PM
ELIMINATING HALF TIME
Emperor Smeat
01-25-2018, 03:04 PM
I honestly am curious as to how this will shake out.
Realistically, the original XFL wasn't as big of a failure as everyone hyperbolically misremembers.
Financially it was. Decimated a years worth of profits for the WWE during one of their hottest times ever.
#BROKEN Hasney
01-25-2018, 03:05 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">BREAKING: <a href="https://twitter.com/VinceMcMahon?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@VinceMcMahon</a>’s new league will be called the XFL. Will start in Jan. 2020, have eight teams, players required to stand for National Anthem & Johnny Manziel is NOT eligible to play <a href="https://t.co/KEJA6Q4fua">https://t.co/KEJA6Q4fua</a></p>— Darren Rovell (@darrenrovell) <a href="https://twitter.com/darrenrovell/status/956618415451623424?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 25, 2018</a></blockquote>
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#BROKEN Hasney
01-25-2018, 03:07 PM
No talks with anyone in TV or streaming.
Cool King
01-25-2018, 03:08 PM
I like the new logo.
Evil Vito
01-25-2018, 03:09 PM
I wish I had hundreds of millions of dollars to waste.
#BROKEN Hasney
01-25-2018, 03:10 PM
Safety!
Safe!
No specifics
But Safe!
#BROKEN Hasney
01-25-2018, 03:14 PM
Ahahaha holy shit, the national anthem is a time honoured tradition. He said it exactly like he did against Bret.
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Vince just said that watching 3-hour long matches can be laborious at times :lol:
2 hour games, no halftime
Evil Vito
01-25-2018, 03:17 PM
No black athletes are going to want to play in the XFL and it'll end up being the least talented football league that's ever existed.
#BROKEN Hasney
01-25-2018, 03:18 PM
No black athletes are going to want to play in the XFL and it'll end up being the least talented football league that's ever existed.
They should and still take a knee. See what happens when they try and take "politics" out of it then.
Savio
01-25-2018, 03:20 PM
Just say "The national anthem will be played before players are on the field"
#BROKEN Hasney
01-25-2018, 03:21 PM
Anyone with criminal records are not allowed in the league, even a DUI.
RIP Usos football career.
Michael Cole will not be calling the action.
Emperor Smeat
01-25-2018, 03:25 PM
2 hour games, no halftime
Can already see potential players and coaches hating the no half-time rule considering that gets rid of mid-game rest and adjustments.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I’ve got 2 years to prepare <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/XFL2020?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#XFL2020</a> </p>— Nia Jax (@NiaJaxWWE) <a href="https://twitter.com/NiaJaxWWE/status/956622202400583682?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 25, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Emperor Smeat
01-25-2018, 03:25 PM
:lol: at this ending song for the new XFL
Cool King
01-25-2018, 03:27 PM
http://a1.espncdn.com/combiner/i?img=%2Fphoto%2F2018%2F0125%2Fr319041_600x400_3%2D2.jpg&w=570http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/slides/photos/000/897/602/smackdown-logo_display_image.png?1303990582
The new XFL logo is pretty much the old SmackDown logo from 2009/10.
Emperor Smeat
01-25-2018, 03:28 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="und" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/XFL2020?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#XFL2020</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/VinceMcMahon?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@VinceMcMahon</a></p>— Johnny Manziel (@JManziel2) <a href="https://twitter.com/JManziel2/status/956620385784553472?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 25, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Lock Jaw
01-25-2018, 03:29 PM
Vince restraining from flying into a rage via repeated questions.
Simple Fan
01-25-2018, 03:29 PM
He said 30 man rosters so I don't see it being regular 11 on 11 football. Maybe 9 on 9 with 3 linemen. I don't think playing in NFL stadiums is a good idea either. I think MLS stadiams would make more sense and whynot just leave the field the same and play on a wider field.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">“Playing the national anthem before a sporting event is a time honored tradition in sports.” VINCE DOESN’T EVEN PLAY THE NATIONAL ANTHEM BEFORE MANIA. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Xfl2020?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Xfl2020</a></p>— Brian Maxwell Mann (@BrianMaxMann) <a href="https://twitter.com/BrianMaxMann/status/956621877971218432?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 25, 2018</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I cannot believe the balls on Vince McMahon to say that watching 3 hour football games are "too laborious" while he puts on a dragging 3 hour wrestling program week after week that fans BEG him to cut down to 2 hours at every chance. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/XFL2020?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#XFL2020</a></p>— Robbie Fox (@RobbieBarstool) <a href="https://twitter.com/RobbieBarstool/status/956622673358057478?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 25, 2018</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I cannot believe the balls on Vince McMahon to say that watching 3 hour football games are "too laborious" while he puts on a dragging 3 hour wrestling program week after week that fans BEG him to cut down to 2 hours at every chance. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/XFL2020?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#XFL2020</a></p>— Robbie Fox (@RobbieBarstool) <a href="https://twitter.com/RobbieBarstool/status/956622673358057478?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 25, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Vince just said that watching 3-hour long matches can be laborious at times :lol:
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Savio
01-25-2018, 03:33 PM
I believe he does play it before Mania.
Savio
01-25-2018, 03:34 PM
"We're going to listen to the fans"
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"This is the Future" bit at the end reminded me of Snoop's commercial for WWE 2K18.
Simple Fan
01-25-2018, 03:39 PM
Thought it was funny anytime Kap was brought up about playing he'd always say if a player follows the rules but said Tim Tebow could play.
Gerard
01-25-2018, 03:39 PM
Vince just must love to wank away money.
Lock Jaw
01-25-2018, 03:44 PM
He kept talking about 7 months where football isn't played, but then he said looking at January/February for the season. Isn't that when NFL is in playoffs and Superbowl?
Gerard
01-25-2018, 03:45 PM
Is it just me or does Vince suddenly look much older? Noticed it on that farce of an anniversary show that he looks older and his voice sounds to be very hoarse.
#BROKEN Hasney
01-25-2018, 03:45 PM
Here's the full summary of the conference:
Network talks? Don't be silly! Safety? Yes! Safety how? No idea! Cities? I dunno! BUT ONLY GOOD PEOPLE NOT FOLKS THAT KNEEL THROUGH SONGS OR HAVE CRIMINAL RECORDS
WE HAVE THOUGHT THAT PART THROUGH
THOROUGHLY
Simple Fan
01-25-2018, 03:45 PM
I'd say he'd start right after the Super Bowl.
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Evil Vito
01-25-2018, 03:47 PM
You can tell how much the wrestling landscape has changed.
XFL 2001 - The Rock cutting promos! Wrestling announcers calling the games! TONS of crossover.
XFL 2018 - Nope. Nothing to do with WWE. No crossover. It's not even the same company! What's a WWE???
Evil Vito
01-25-2018, 03:50 PM
Given how terrible the talent pool for this league is going to be, maybe I'll go to the tryouts for the Stamford Swagger Soaring Eagles.
Savio
01-25-2018, 03:50 PM
Thought Vince didn't own the rights to the XFL anymore.
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Emperor Smeat
01-25-2018, 03:51 PM
He said 30 man rosters so I don't see it being regular 11 on 11 football. Maybe 9 on 9 with 3 linemen. I don't think playing in NFL stadiums is a good idea either. I think MLS stadiams would make more sense and whynot just leave the field the same and play on a wider field.
Probably a mistake by him since ESPN says its 40 man rosters. That's enough for regular football and have enough for reserves before injuries start to kick in.
He kept talking about 7 months where football isn't played, but then he said looking at January/February for the season. Isn't that when NFL is in playoffs and Superbowl?
January is probably out since he'd be dealing with the college bowls and NFL playoffs. February/March is better although the trade-off is people might be tired of watching football by then.
Spring puts him in direct competition with baseball and the NBA playoffs. Also people caring a lot less about wanting to watch football.
#BROKEN Hasney
01-25-2018, 03:53 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">the best thing about this tweet is people replying "actually it's for 2020" as if factual accuracy about Football But More Openly Bigoted improves this joke about how mean and ugly our world is</p>— Michæl Lu†z (@WarrenIsDead) <a href="https://twitter.com/WarrenIsDead/status/956629150529413120?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 25, 2018</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">XFL's concussion protocol <a href="https://t.co/zfabcfs8fG">pic.twitter.com/zfabcfs8fG</a></p>— Conference Champion (@IOnlySayFacts) <a href="https://twitter.com/IOnlySayFacts/status/956629153473810434?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 25, 2018</a></blockquote>
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I bet the one thing they borrow from the E is their concussion docs/policies
Ol Dirty Dastard
01-25-2018, 03:55 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">the best thing about this tweet is people replying "actually it's for 2020" as if factual accuracy about Football But More Openly Bigoted improves this joke about how mean and ugly our world is</p>— Michæl Lu†z (@WarrenIsDead) <a href="https://twitter.com/WarrenIsDead/status/956629150529413120?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 25, 2018</a></blockquote>
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definitely had to make sure to virtue signal in his post.
#BROKEN Hasney
01-25-2018, 03:55 PM
definitely had to make sure to virtue signal in his post.
Well he's not wrong
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="und" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/XFL2020?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#XFL2020</a> <a href="https://t.co/j3pARqs0cj">pic.twitter.com/j3pARqs0cj</a></p>— TDE Wrestling (@totaldivaseps) <a href="https://twitter.com/totaldivaseps/status/956618590232436737?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 25, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Triple A
01-25-2018, 03:58 PM
What is that guy "Michael Lutz" talking about
Gerard
01-25-2018, 04:03 PM
He sounds like Shawn Michaels in this vid ffs.
I agree
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Honestly, they should just have NO ANTHEM. Before I’m called un-American, remember that 99.9% of us have jobs where we don’t hear the national anthem at the beginning of our day <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/XFL2020?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#XFL2020</a></p>— DavKind (@DavKind76) <a href="https://twitter.com/DavKind76/status/956628038791434241?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 25, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Ol Dirty Dastard
01-25-2018, 04:16 PM
National Anthems in sports are dumb. I fully support anyone's right to protest during them. But if Vince McMahon wants his stupid patriot league, and is like DEADSET on those rules, then so be it.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">When asked if Manziel, Kaepernick, and Tebow would be welcomed into the XFL, Vince McMahon said nobody with a criminal record would be allowed, then concluded by saying that meant Tebow would be allowed.<br><br>His inference was clear. He suggested Kaepernick was an unwelcome criminal.</p>— Shaun King (@ShaunKing) <a href="https://twitter.com/ShaunKing/status/956633977753882624?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 25, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Ol Dirty Dastard
01-25-2018, 04:20 PM
lol oh FFS
Ol Dirty Dastard
01-25-2018, 04:24 PM
People standing by tallying perceived microaggressions.
Heisenberg
01-25-2018, 04:25 PM
Well, Shaun King is a race baiter and jobber on Twitter so this tweet was expected.
HIT MY MUSIC DUDE
Ol Dirty Dastard
01-25-2018, 04:29 PM
Plus Vince was clearly talking about Manziel.
Heisenberg
01-25-2018, 04:37 PM
After 2016 I cut myself off from news/politics. Still shows up on my facebook feed which augments in my mind to a box that says "why are you still on here, go live life dude" so I go live life, brother(s)
Ol Dirty Dastard
01-25-2018, 04:44 PM
After 2016 I cut myself off from news/politics. Still shows up on my facebook feed which augments in my mind to a box that says "why are you still on here, go live life dude" so I go live life, brother(s)
Man you are so right. But i am addickted
Evil Vito
01-25-2018, 05:11 PM
That Shaun King tweet is quite a stretch from what was actually said.
I mean I think it's total bullshit that Kaepernick has been effectively blackballed from the NFL. Any argument that he's not good enough to play there can be debunked fairly quickly when you compare his career to the Brandon Weedens of the world.
So if he's then told he can't play in the XFL, it's obviously due to his social stances, and it'd be 100% fine to call bullshit on the league.
But there's no evidence yet he won't be allowed to play there and the league is still two years away. So King should cool his jets.
#BROKEN Hasney
01-25-2018, 05:16 PM
National Anthems in sports are dumb. I fully support anyone's right to protest during them. But if Vince McMahon wants his stupid patriot league, and is like DEADSET on those rules, then so be it.
The only song I stand for is Pretty Fly for a White Guy and maybe Christians theme, original version, not the newer one.
The part I find funny is how he said "no politics or social issues!" And then forces his politics on people. It would be easily avoided anyway, just do the anthem before the players come out.
Seems to be a cynical marketing move anyway. It's not like he has the anthem played at Wrestlemania even.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">That’s not what he said about Kap at all. He was asked again about if Kap would be allowed to play in the XFL he said “Why not? As long as he’s a good football player and a good person and can abide by our rules, anyone can play.” I support you, but this take is wrong.</p>— Burt Macklin (@MrDrake23) <a href="https://twitter.com/MrDrake23/status/956638553601056768?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 25, 2018</a></blockquote>
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I get what Destor means about Shaun King now...
Ol Dirty Dastard
01-25-2018, 05:33 PM
Vince gonna vince. If he mandates players stand then if they sign between the dotted lines they know what theyre going to get into.
Sleezy promoter will always be a sleezy promoter.
I'm worried that Vince McMahon focusing on this will mean a decline in the quality of WWE programming in the coming months.
The only song I stand for is Pretty Fly for a White Guy and maybe Christians theme, original version, not the newer one.
The part I find funny is how he said "no politics or social issues!" And then forces his politics on people. It would be easily avoided anyway, just do the anthem before the players come out.
Seems to be a cynical marketing move anyway. It's not like he has the anthem played at Wrestlemania even.
Right on all counts about the National Anthem its fucking weird the boner this contry has for such an objectively terrible song
I'd be damn proud if the first version of "JUST CLOSE YOUR EYES" was the anthem. Theme was amazing
DaveWadding
01-25-2018, 08:04 PM
Kano Brown.
That's actually not too bad.
KANO BROWN...wants to fuck a dog in the ass.
Frank Drebin
01-25-2018, 08:18 PM
Very interested to see how this develops. That video package mentioned fantasy sports and.....BETTING?!?......makes it seem like they've got lots of other stuff up their sleeve. What they're trying to accomplish is doable, but they have very little room for error.
They've obviously gone all in on crowd source marketing and they're going to lean on it heavily in trying to figure out what they'll do differently from the NFL.
Emperor Smeat
01-25-2018, 08:31 PM
Observer on XFL's chances of success looking at it from the perspective of players and television:
Nobody asked what type of salaries they are going to pay and how that compares to the CFL, as they will be competing for the same type of player. As far as public interest, I don't see this being any different from last time or any of the attempts at second pro football leagues. But the environment is completely different today than in 2001. Whether that allows them to make it is a different story, but it's all about broadcast rights and if you can get a deal that allows you to make money, it doesn't matter about merch sales or ticket sales. And if it's just merch sales and ticket sales, but no significant money from broadcast rights, this doesn't have a chance. There are a lot more outlets, but television and OTT, looking for fringe product and you don't need that many viewers to stay on the air. But you need for someone to pay you a lot to be on the air, so this depends far more on the television/OTT market than the football market.
Vince making the announcement and setting a launch date before getting a network in place is a pretty big blunder. Same for making the anthem debate be one of the big talking points since it can easily backfire and make potential networks a bit wary of wanting to get involved.
I really think that outside of his wheelhouse Vince sucks
but we will see
Droford
01-25-2018, 09:01 PM
Very interested to see how this develops. That video package mentioned fantasy sports and.....BETTING?!?......makes it seem like they've got lots of other stuff up their sleeve. What they're trying to accomplish is doable, but they have very little room for error.
They've obviously gone all in on crowd source marketing and they're going to lean on it heavily in trying to figure out what they'll do differently from the NFL.
Vince knows it'll work If you can gamble on it.
Frank Drebin
01-25-2018, 09:53 PM
Would you gamble on the XFL in week 1? Not being flippant, honestly curious. I'm not a big gambler so it seems like a crap shoot where as the whole idea of sports betting is because you think you "know something" that gives you an advantage.
Jordan
01-25-2018, 09:59 PM
I don't watch football much but I'll give it a shot and see how I like it.
Frank Drebin
01-25-2018, 10:00 PM
Vince making the announcement and setting a launch date before getting a network in place is a pretty big blunder. Same for making the anthem debate be one of the big talking points since it can easily backfire and make potential networks a bit wary of wanting to get involved.
On the surface its a huge blunder, yeah. On the flip side, you don't know whats happening behind the scenes. In a perfect world, they've had talks with a few outlets and this announcement piques the interest of the public. Twitter hashtags and youtube views show better than expected viewership and they leverage that to drive up a price on the league.
I mean, I'm throwing spitballs here but they would have to be total idiots to announce this and not have any idea where they want to show it. Not that the WWE or "Alpha" or whatever is above that I guess but maybe I have more faith in Vince than others.
The anthem thing was just asked a bunch of times by the writers. They want Vince to take a hard stance on it to create controversy - not the kind of controversy you want at this stage if you're Vince. It wasn't something Vince brought up on his own. If you're going to say Vince made that a talking point, than he also made a talking point of trying to sell the XFL to San Diego and Pittsburgh.
Droford
01-25-2018, 10:03 PM
Would you gamble on the XFL in week 1? Not being flippant, honestly curious. I'm not a big gambler so it seems like a crap shoot where as the whole idea of sports betting is because you think you "know something" that gives you an advantage.
First week would probably be a random crapshoot but there's gotta be someone who would have talent evaluations to use.
Shisen Kopf
01-25-2018, 10:07 PM
First week would probably be a random crapshoot but there's gotta be someone who would have talent evaluations to use.
How much are you gonna put on the Baltimore Team to win the XFL?
Emperor Smeat
01-25-2018, 10:36 PM
On the surface its a huge blunder, yeah. On the flip side, you don't know whats happening behind the scenes. In a perfect world, they've had talks with a few outlets and this announcement piques the interest of the public. Twitter hashtags and youtube views show better than expected viewership and they leverage that to drive up a price on the league.
I mean, I'm throwing spitballs here but they would have to be total idiots to announce this and not have any idea where they want to show it. Not that the WWE or "Alpha" or whatever is above that I guess but maybe I have more faith in Vince than others.
The anthem thing was just asked a bunch of times by the writers. They want Vince to take a hard stance on it to create controversy - not the kind of controversy you want at this stage if you're Vince. It wasn't something Vince brought up on his own. If you're going to say Vince made that a talking point, than he also made a talking point of trying to sell the XFL to San Diego and Pittsburgh.
True.
League itself still has enough time for things to fall into place and the 2 year window is around the range needed based on other sports leagues. Its still a big gamble since Vince is trading away having a network at the start in favor of more time to build and hopefully be interesting enough to attract a good network or platform.
The anthem thing I could see become tricky later if its still a big issue or Trump keeps feuding with the NFL by the time the XFL launches. Vince keeping it as just a simple bullet point helps him a lot but at the same time no players or coaches around to see what their stance or reaction is.
SlickyTrickyDamon
01-25-2018, 10:41 PM
Are they hiring?
Ol Dirty Dastard
01-26-2018, 06:38 AM
I don't watch football much but I'll give it a shot and see how I like it.
It will be like all other football but probably worse.
#BROKEN Hasney
01-26-2018, 08:05 AM
Are they hiring?
Looking to get in and get a quick severance pay, huh?
It will be like all other football but probably worse.
They're probably lucky arena football is dead, or they might get the third tier of footballmen
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