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I thought it was decent. It def had its flaws but overall enjoyed it. Big fan of its predecessors.
The movie critics seem a little jaded they didn't get their preferential early viewings...had to see it at the same time as us schmucks.
SlickyTrickyDamon
02-05-2018, 08:21 PM
Looks like it's a stinker on Rotten Tomatoes
I thought it was pretty good. They didnt go deep on the paradox stuff which could have really made this movie difficult. Good Sci fy movie. On par with the prometheus/ Alien that just came out.
Shisen Kopf
02-05-2018, 10:00 PM
Looks like it's a stinker on Rotten Tomatoes
Solo loolks like it's gonna be a stinker
Frank Drebin
02-05-2018, 11:34 PM
It was pretty generic. Felt like the whole B story on Earth was done post production when they decided it was going to tie in to Cloverfield. Whole lot of nothing there. 2/4
Danny Electric
02-06-2018, 04:04 AM
It was pretty generic. Felt like the whole B story on Earth was done post production when they decided it was going to tie in to Cloverfield. Whole lot of nothing there. 2/4
I agree , the movie was originally The God Particle and seems a shame if the original script had no mentions at all of Cloverfield and they put a lot of stuff in post production.
Great cast though , I enjoyed it for what it was as a Netflix movie.
Interesting to see the tie ins to the other movies, missed one completely so will have to rewatch.
Next movie in the Cloverfield series is called Overlord, set during the D Day landings.
Frank Drebin
02-06-2018, 07:41 AM
Remember though, it wasn't a Netflix original. They bought it from Paramount. It was going to be released in theaters in April. That's why this was kind of a big shocker. Netflix bought a "blockbuster" all for themselves.
Seanny One Ball
02-06-2018, 07:55 AM
It was pretty generic. Felt like the whole B story on Earth was done post production when they decided it was going to tie in to Cloverfield. Whole lot of nothing there. 2/4
This is the impression I got from the review I read.
It's a shame that the original and best Cloverfield film barely shows the monster, is only 70 minutes long and has two big budget sequels that have absolutely nothing to do with it.
It sort of parallels the Alien franchise in that by even attempting to create one they end up destroying its potential immediately.
It was just 'ok' - not as bad as people say but definitely not amazing. Some good visuals but really bad pacing. You can also tell it was a film that had things 'added in' to make it part of the Cloverfield Universe (Donal Logue's scene being the most obvious, along with the last shot).
It did provide an answer as to how the first film happened though so in that regard it was a success.
Seanny One Ball
02-06-2018, 10:43 AM
Are you seriously happy with that as an explanation for the monster's presence on Earth?
I suppose that is the equivalent of a man dying of thirst being happy that someone takes the time to pour some motor oil in his mouth before he expires.
His thirst might not be quenched but his mouth is no longer dry.
It's not really that different from how the creatures in Stranger Things got in.
Humans messed with an element they shouldn't have, multiversal effects ensue.
If it was a comic book it would make perfect sense so I see no problem with it as an explanation.
Danny Electric
02-06-2018, 11:21 AM
Wonder what the bad guys will Ben in Overlord, Nazi monsters from a different dimension.
Frank Drebin
02-06-2018, 01:05 PM
A universe in which DC made a good movie.
alvarado52
02-06-2018, 04:24 PM
The movie itself was alright, but I did like how they made the entire Cloverfield brand a multiverse. It was essentially the origin story of the Cloververse.
10 Cloverfield Lane was originally, "The Cellar" and made a Cloverfield movie.
There's a lot wrong with TCP but the origins of the monster(s) has been explained to have come from beneath the ocean's floor a while back (woken from drilling and stuffs) There's a lot of hidden internet nerd stuff, plus a manga was released.
Clovey from the OG was even said to have been a youth sea..monster thing.
I'm just ready for some closure. haha...The Lane aliens are still a mystery.
the arm and the ship having some kind of life of its own are pretty fucking dumb
further reading and shit
http://cloverfield.wikia.com/wiki/Parasite
PS PS
Likely scenario is the monster at the end of TCP is the same one as in the first movie but remember we're dealing with different times and parallel dimensions. Earth in this movie could be different from the Earth from the first movie and he was just WOKEN in the future timeline by a different force rather than however he was in the 2008 timeline/dimension.
The crazy guy on the news has the same last name as John Goodman's character
Same actress plays the news anchor lady that tried to get into Goodman's Bunker.
Frank Drebin
02-06-2018, 09:36 PM
Netflix reportedly paid $50 million for it which makes it profitable on a budget of $40 million. No other associated costs with distribution or marketing. Very interesting.
alvarado52
02-06-2018, 10:13 PM
PS PS
Likely scenario is the monster at the end of TCP is the same one as in the first movie
Couldnt be the same one based on size alone. The OG monster was tall, but not even tall enough to rise above the skies. It also was significantly skinnier, which lends to the theory of the monster basically being a scared adolescent just wrecking shit in panic mode.
Couldnt be the same one based on size alone. The OG monster was tall, but not even tall enough to rise above the skies. It also was significantly skinnier, which lends to the theory of the monster basically being a scared adolescent just wrecking shit in panic mode.
Different Earth dimension. It got to sleep under the ocean floor beyond 2008 (first movie) until 2028 for whatever. Plenty of years to get bigger. Or his mother finally came to find 'em.
movie magic. doubt the creature reaches into the clouds. the size of the head doesn't make sense.
Netflix reportedly paid $50 million for it which makes it profitable on a budget of $40 million. No other associated costs with distribution or marketing. Very interesting.
Scifi/Syfi, Lifetime, etc. were ahead of their time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqRl4kxkd0A
Frank Drebin
02-06-2018, 10:50 PM
I'm still fascinated with Netflix getting this movie. It probably would have been met with mixed reviews at best and would have underperformed at the box office, so rather than go through all of that, they sell it to Netflix who get to tout that they have this mainstream "blockbuster" and rack up the views. Meanwhile, the studio still makes a tidy profit and forgoes the uncertainty of a wide release.
Does this mean Netflix is the dumping ground for movies studios don't want to take the chance on spending marketing money on because they know it sucks, or is this the beginning of Netflix trying to flat out expand into first run movie territory and infringe on theaters themselves?
It didnt suck really. It was kind of a poor man's Event Horizon with some Alien Covenant vibes.
I didnt see how any of this tied into the other Cloverfield stories. I thought when the guy went to the bunker, he was in John Goodmans bunker and John Goodman's character was the one texting him, but nope. Also, I though the pod dropping in the ocean at the end was tied to the final scene in Cloverfield, but then the monster popped up. So that dont make sense either.
Danny Electric
02-07-2018, 02:46 AM
I'm still fascinated with Netflix getting this movie. It probably would have been met with mixed reviews at best and would have underperformed at the box office, so rather than go through all of that, they sell it to Netflix who get to tout that they have this mainstream "blockbuster" and rack up the views. Meanwhile, the studio still makes a tidy profit and forgoes the uncertainty of a wide release.
Does this mean Netflix is the dumping ground for movies studios don't want to take the chance on spending marketing money on because they know it sucks, or is this the beginning of Netflix trying to flat out expand into first run movie territory and infringe on theaters themselves?
From what I read Netflix set up some sort of deal with Paramount, Annihilation will premiere on Netflix in every region apart from USA, Canada and China where it's getting a cinema release.
They payed Paramount a big fee to show The Cloverfield Paradox too.
Danny Electric
02-07-2018, 02:49 AM
It didnt suck really. It was kind of a poor man's Event Horizon with some Alien Covenant vibes.
I didnt see how any of this tied into the other Cloverfield stories. I thought when the guy went to the bunker, he was in John Goodmans bunker and John Goodman's character was the one texting him, but nope. Also, I though the pod dropping in the ocean at the end was tied to the final scene in Cloverfield, but then the monster popped up. So that dont make sense either.
I think there trying to base that the ship using the Shepherd created a rift in all these alternate dimensions and every film is set in a different dimension. Hence the infected lady from 10 Cloverfield Lane being a newsreader in this movie.
Seanny One Ball
02-07-2018, 05:44 AM
It's not really that different from how the creatures in Stranger Things got in.
Humans messed with an element they shouldn't have, multiversal effects ensue.
If it was a comic book it would make perfect sense so I see no problem with it as an explanation.
I don't like the obvious shoe-horning of ideas that they clearly just grabbed at from other sources. Cloverfield is a patchwork quilt of a franchise.
Kalyx triaD
02-07-2018, 09:51 AM
This 'series' is a fucking sham.
Lock Jaw
02-07-2018, 01:38 PM
Reported that Netflix paid around 50 million to get this
Kalyx triaD
02-07-2018, 01:41 PM
I suppose it's still cheaper than making it from scratch.
Seanny One Ball
02-07-2018, 01:47 PM
To think Evan Almighty cost 175 million...
Frank Drebin
02-07-2018, 03:52 PM
Netflix reportedly paid $50 million for it which makes it profitable on a budget of $40 million. No other associated costs with distribution or marketing. Very interesting.
Reported that Netflix paid around 50 million to get this
Please read my posts
Seanny One Ball
02-07-2018, 03:58 PM
Do we all have to?
Lock Jaw
02-07-2018, 06:27 PM
Please read my posts
It was fake news until I posted it
Frank Drebin
02-07-2018, 07:04 PM
Do we all have to?
I have 3 stars worth of rep. I'm totally cool and full of wisdom. It would behoove you to go back and read all 20k of my posts, actually.
It was fake news until I posted it
At least I have indoor plumbing at my home.
Lock Jaw
02-07-2018, 07:07 PM
So do I. There's just no water running through it at the moment.
The best thing this movie could have done was no be a Cloverfield movie. Just make it a whole different movie. It was good. Was not great. There were things that did not make sense like....
The worm guy walking around with that huge direction ball in his stomach and not knowing. Or the dudes arm knowing he had it in him and writing it out. I really enjoyed the scene where he got his arm taken though. That was thoughtfull and really well done.
Those tricky Russians, RP.
Swiss Ultimate
02-08-2018, 10:30 PM
Are you seriously happy with that as an explanation for the monster's presence on Earth?
I suppose that is the equivalent of a man dying of thirst being happy that someone takes the time to pour some motor oil in his mouth before he expires.
His thirst might not be quenched but his mouth is no longer dry.
I tried to rewatch the first film.
Could not.
Loved the marketing blitz though.
Soooo If I have this right the basic point is that this group of assholes create an anomaly that effects this pocket of time and space thus allowing all the shit in the first two films and this one and supposedly the 4th one.....hmmm
I'm going to go finish Altered Carbon.
Swiss Ultimate
02-09-2018, 08:24 AM
The first and second movies don't take place in the same world though.
I'm getting rid of Netflix until Punisher 2 and Stranger Yhings 3 comes out.
https://nerdist.com/cloverfield-5-franchise-kolma/
lol
Seanny One Ball
02-09-2018, 11:00 AM
I tried to rewatch the first film.
Could not.
Loved the marketing blitz though.
Iwas never particularly high on Cloverfield but it is undeniably a shitty trick to pull on people to produce three films so hugely different and with virtually zero monster in them after the first one.
Swiss Ultimate
02-09-2018, 11:09 PM
Mildly entertaining scifi suspense.
Seanny One Ball
02-10-2018, 02:40 AM
Lizzy Caplan and T.J Miller though.
Blonde Moment
02-10-2018, 02:45 AM
Iwas never particularly high on Cloverfield but it is undeniably a shitty trick to pull on people to produce three films so hugely different and with virtually zero monster in them after the first one.
That's the thing there a monster in the second one just not the one we think
Frank Drebin
02-10-2018, 07:23 AM
Kenton Lane was in that movie??
Seanny One Ball
02-10-2018, 01:49 PM
That's the thing there a monster in the second one just not the one we think
Now isn't the time to be metaphorical.
Alien/Aliens are benchmarks for sci fi creature horror and the Cloverfield franchise is more like every unanswered question from Alien 3 through Covenant shoved together from the get go. It half arsed the introduction and it will never live up to it now.
Kalyx triaD
02-10-2018, 05:40 PM
It's Lost as a movie series. A bunch of random ideas tossed in a row leaving viewers on a wild goose chase looking for some semblance of a narrative.
It's Lost as a movie series. A bunch of random ideas tossed in a row leaving viewers on a wild goose chase looking for some semblance of a narrative.
not quite
Seanny One Ball
02-11-2018, 12:27 AM
He's not far off though. He was just below a post that made more sense.
Blonde Moment
02-11-2018, 09:28 PM
Now isn't the time to be metaphorical.
Alien/Aliens are benchmarks for sci fi creature horror and the Cloverfield franchise is more like every unanswered question from Alien 3 through Covenant shoved together from the get go. It half arsed the introduction and it will never live up to it now.
Just wait until you see what the next one is about :P
Swiss Ultimate
02-11-2018, 09:46 PM
I'm kind of sour on everything that isn't Guardians of the Galaxy right now. Just not impressed anymore.
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