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Jordan
03-12-2018, 11:23 PM
https://www.reddit.com/r/SquaredCircle/comments/51nz17/wrestlers_true_colors_series_the_fabulous_moolah/

The reason women's pro-wrestling in North America was and still in large part today considered a joke and just an opportunity to oggle at tits and asses is largely in part thanks to the way Moolah trained her girls and how Moolah wrestled. Moolah was not a good worker. Her wrestling style considered of hair pulling snapmare, headlocks, clotheslines and nothing else. Those that argue that women's wrestling was always like that and Moolah did nothing to change it are ignorant. In the '30s and '40s, female wrestling employed shooters and they wrestled in the traditional sense of the term. Tits and asses were used to advertise and get them in the building, but the girls worked longer and more technically sound matches than today. The champion was always a shooter, and the matches for the championship and leading up to the main event had to be high caliber. The reason Japanese women's wrestling was light years ahead of North American's is because of one person and one person only - Moolah.

Vastardikai
03-12-2018, 11:44 PM
Mildred Burke did for Joshi what Karl Gotch did for Puro.

SlickyTrickyDamon
03-12-2018, 11:49 PM
This says nothing about how she pimped out girls and kept them drugged up and dependent on her. Also on how she would take 20% of their deals.

Delete! Incomplete! Delete! Obsolete!

Tom Guycott
03-13-2018, 12:47 AM
And even with all that said, it still is funny to me that Carmella's ring gear pretty much mirrors Moolah's, and that doesn't come up like ever.

Black Widow
03-13-2018, 04:12 PM
Y'all are so disgusted by Snuka,Moolah etc that you continue to tune in and by merchandise.

Vastardikai
03-13-2018, 04:21 PM
Speak for yourself.

My bro buys the Rumble every year. That is the only full WWE show I watch all year. I follow on the YouTube's, and if something cool comes up I might check that, but I don't consistently watch the product. The writing is shit and the talent are a bunch of marks.

Black Widow
03-13-2018, 04:26 PM
Speak for yourself.

My bro buys the Rumble every year. That is the only full WWE show I watch all year. I follow on the YouTube's, and if something cool comes up I might check that, but I don't consistently watch the product. The writing is shit and the talent are a bunch of marks.Still I'm sure it was still something pretty known before you stopped.

Emperor Smeat
03-13-2018, 04:28 PM
Really idiotic and tone deaf move by the WWE to name it after her.

Last time they honored her publicly, it generated a lot more negative backlash than positive mainstream praise for them and more people being aware of her dark past. Even worse now to do it considering the current wave of #MeToo outing of sexual harassers and using her name to leech off of the Women's Revolution/Evolution.

Loose Cannon
03-13-2018, 04:47 PM
wait she drugged people? wtf lol

Evil Vito
03-13-2018, 04:49 PM
Once you're dead, any previous transgressions will go away as more and more time goes on.

I look forward to the Chris Benoit Invitational in 2025.

GD
03-13-2018, 04:59 PM
Once you're dead, any previous transgressions will go away as more and more time goes on.

I look forward to the Chris Benoit Submission Spectacular in 2025.

FTFY

GD
03-13-2018, 05:01 PM
wait she drugged people? wtf lol

Don't forget that she was a mad pimp.

Bad News Gertner
03-13-2018, 06:29 PM
Moolah was an AWFUL human being.

Fignuts
03-13-2018, 08:57 PM
Winner of the battle royal gets their wages cut, and has to do sexual favors for other promotors.

Mr. Nerfect
03-13-2018, 11:44 PM
I am kind of looking forward to the crowd reaction for the Moolah Battle Royal.

rez
03-14-2018, 12:05 AM
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It'd be the perfect chance for the women to call her legacy out... but won't happen.

Emperor Smeat
03-14-2018, 01:00 AM
Apparently several women on NXT and the main roster deleted their tweets praising Moolah. Either they realized from the backlash how terrible Moolah was and/or only did it to please the WWE's demands and got rid of it afterwards.

SlickyTrickyDamon
03-14-2018, 04:35 AM
It's working. There's a reason it was the Mae Young Classic. Should just be Mae Young Battle Royal. She was cool.

Fignuts
03-14-2018, 05:19 AM
Mildred Burke Battle Royal

She's probably the most important person in the history of women's wrestling.

Jordan
03-14-2018, 08:43 AM
They should've just called it ... "The 20 Woman Off With Your Top Battle Royal" The last pair of covered titties, wins.

Ol Dirty Dastard
03-14-2018, 08:47 AM
I look forward to the Chris Benoit Invitational in 2025.

I believe it was Gertner who said, "sometimes you just murder some people".

Ol Dirty Dastard
03-14-2018, 08:48 AM
Sensational Sherri Battle Royal.

Destor
03-14-2018, 09:32 AM
Holy revisionist history batman.


In the '30s and '40s, female wrestling employed shooters and they wrestled in the traditional sense of the term. Tits and asses were used to advertise and get them in the building, but the girls worked longer and more technically sound matches than today.


LOL

Simple Fan
03-14-2018, 09:35 AM
I dont care about what ever Moolah supposedly did throughout her career but I feel like it should have been the Chyna Memorial Battle Royal instead. Or just combine it and the ATGMBR and call it the 10th Wonder of the World Battle Royal with men and women.

Heisenberg
03-14-2018, 10:15 AM
One Night in Chyna Memorial Battle Royal

Ol Dirty Dastard
03-14-2018, 10:18 AM
One Night in Chyna Memorial Battle Royal

Not gonna lie have totally wanked to year 2000 Chyna. One Night in Chyna-Chyna is just sad though.

I'm talking when those surgeries were fresh!

Evil Vito
03-14-2018, 12:10 PM
Not gonna lie have totally wanked to year 2000 Chyna.

Ya definitely spanked it to her in 2000/2001 when she was doing all of the bikini shoots with the rest of the women.

Nobody in those photo shoots was off-limits to 12 year old me. Yeah I know Debra was old enough to be my mother. Didn't care. Boobs.

Fignuts
03-14-2018, 02:33 PM
Holy revisionist history batman.





LOL

Yeah, dunno about that. I mean, they were better than the diva search era, but even in Japan, you didn't see any technical masterpeices til the mid 80's with the crush gals, Jaguar Yokota, Devil Masami, etc. Before then, it was somewhat enjoyable, but there was still a lot of hair pulling, and matches that were just basic fundamentals.

SlickyTrickyDamon
03-14-2018, 02:47 PM
Father of the Year non-memorial (too bad) Buck Zumhofe Battle royal.

Maluco
03-14-2018, 02:54 PM
Sensational Sherri Battle Royal.

This! If anyone could show evolution in woman's wrestling, it's Sherri. She started off as a valet who did very little and slowly became a great manager and personality in a boys world.

Her reactions and the way she played off people were so underrated and she usually elevated whoever she was paired with, or at least made them instantly unlikeable (her job)

This would have been perfect

Destor
03-14-2018, 03:19 PM
Yeah, dunno about that. I mean, they were better than the diva search era, but even in Japan, you didn't see any technical masterpeices til the mid 80's with the crush gals, Jaguar Yokota, Devil Masami, etc. Before then, it was somewhat enjoyable, but there was still a lot of hair pulling, and matches that were just basic fundamentals.
Yeah the was a clear renaissance and it wasnt in the 40's. Whoever wrote the OP just assumed no one would fact check it.

Destor
03-14-2018, 03:21 PM
And the reason JPN was light years a head inring is because the audience demanded much different things from both the men and the woman. Trash post. The marks wanted either freekshows or T&A from the women so thats what got booked.


Moolahs horrors were not some grand manipulation of the product, they were far far worse.

slik
03-14-2018, 03:40 PM
Miss Liz Memorial Battle Royal plz

slik
03-14-2018, 03:40 PM
Lex Luger banned from attending tho

Emperor Smeat
03-14-2018, 03:49 PM
Yeah the was a clear renaissance and it wasnt in the 40's. Whoever wrote the OP just assumed no one would fact check it.

The article doesn't really claim anything about a renaissance of sorts happening in the 30s and 40s, just how women's wrestling was a lot more different or technical than the decades under Moolah's grip which was true.

If anything it completely glosses over:
* The decline of that era of women's wrestling happening right before the rise of televised wrestling which was a huge opportunity lost.
* The breakup of Burke and Wolfe which paved the way for Moolah's eventual dominance in women's wrestling.
* The fact promoters in the US refused to see women's wrestling as anything but a side attraction and eye candy for decades. This also affected the training for women who wanted to become pro wrestlers.
* Vince's role in causing the shift to go to Japan since he never really cared about women's wrestling and once the Japan incident involving Moolah occurred, it gave him the reason needed to start dropping it.

Destor
03-14-2018, 04:06 PM
The article doesn't really claim anything about a renaissance of sorts happening in the 30s and 40s, just how women's wrestling was a lot more different or technical than the decades under Moolah's grip which was true.
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Except for how it isnt at all

Destor
03-14-2018, 04:08 PM
Dont let facts get in the way of framing a good story though

Emperor Smeat
03-14-2018, 04:23 PM
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Lot different than the style Moolah would popularize and teach during her era.

Theo Dious
03-14-2018, 06:14 PM
Moolah was an AWFUL human being.

So were the majority of promoters. #equality

Theo Dious
03-14-2018, 06:22 PM
I'd also be pleased if it was renamed the Titty Master battle royal.

KIRA
03-14-2018, 06:33 PM
Y'all are so disgusted by Snuka,Moolah etc that you continue to tune in and by merchandise.

Stream it and I dont buy merch

Tonya Harding
03-14-2018, 08:08 PM
I will fuck up this Mula bitch's knee if I ever see her

Fignuts
03-14-2018, 09:44 PM
The Great Mula

SlickyTrickyDamon
03-14-2018, 10:31 PM
I'd also be pleased if it was renamed the Titty Master battle royal.

Renee Young would have to win then.

Bad News Gertner
03-14-2018, 10:37 PM
You take Moolah out of the division in the mid 80's and you're left with a very solid group of women like Leilani Kai, Desiree Peterson, Wendi Richter , Princess Victoria before her neck injury, Velvet McIntyre and last but not least, the greatest of them all: Judy Martin. Fucking powerbombing bitches left and right.

SlickyTrickyDamon
03-14-2018, 10:43 PM
Also the brief inclusion of the Jumping Bomb Angels later on. Too bad they weren't there earlier. They were legit out wrestling the men.

Fignuts
03-14-2018, 11:34 PM
I remember watching the jumping bomb angels at survivor series and being blown the fuck away by what I was seeing.

Heisenberg
03-15-2018, 03:32 PM
Not gonna lie have totally wanked to year 2000 Chyna. One Night in Chyna-Chyna is just sad though.

I'm talking when those surgeries were fresh!



I hear ya, got the chance to meet 2000 Chyna in person and she wasn't at all what she was during the ONIC DVD. Still a sweetie in my mind no matter how she went.

DAMN iNATOR
03-15-2018, 08:21 PM
Can't believe it also hasn't been mentioned that Nooks would make girls live in housing blocks she owned and would charge them more rent than they could pay, keeping them perpetually in debt.

mike adamle
03-15-2018, 08:26 PM
Can't believe it also hasn't been mentioned that Nooks would make girls live in housing blocks she owned and would charge them more rent than they could pay, keeping them perpetually in debt.

Can you relate to this? Is this the reason you don't have plumbing??

Fignuts
03-15-2018, 09:33 PM
Damninators landlord is zombie vampire fabulous moolah.

Mr. Nerfect
03-16-2018, 10:08 PM
So were the majority of promoters. #equality

This always comes up when discussing how terrible someone is. Other promoters doing shady things doesn't make Moolah any less of a cunt. She had survival skills. Good for her. She fucked up lives. Any promoter who does the same is also fucked up.

Theo Dious
03-17-2018, 12:26 AM
This always comes up when discussing how terrible someone is. Other promoters doing shady things doesn't make Moolah any less of a cunt. She had survival skills. Good for her. She fucked up lives. Any promoter who does the same is also fucked up.


Jackass, I was being sarcastic.

Theo Dious
03-17-2018, 12:26 AM
Renee Young would have to win then.

I'd be okay with that.

Mr. Nerfect
03-17-2018, 01:11 AM
Jackass, I was being sarcastic.

Sorry, given Poe's law and that you're an asshole, I did genuinely get confused.

The MAC
03-22-2018, 02:33 AM
her name was Moolah cuz she was all about the $$$

Mr. Nerfect
03-22-2018, 03:14 AM
More like Slave DRIVER Moolah. Am I right?