Big Match Jon vs The Undertaker [Archive]

TheFallenOneX

03-13-2018, 05:24 PM

Does this excite anyone? The build up seems like a desperate Cena vs an uninterested Taker. Cena is just coming off whiny, and in all honesty it doesn't accomplish anything for either man.

A Taker win you could say he came back to New Orleans and avenged the loss that broke the streak. That also mean Cena has lost 3 PPV's in a row, he has buried himself

A Cena win means, he is the guy who broke the s.......no wait Brock did that.......he showed Taker that this is his y.......nope that was Roman last year......all is shows is how old and ordinary Taker has become, after 21 wins in a row Taker would be 1-3 at Wrestlemania.

I almost would have rather had Cena win at Fastlane, and go on the WM and have a passing of the torch match with Nakamura (Have AJ team with Shane to take on KO and Zayn, then run the AJ vs Nakamura program to headline the first Duel branded PPV)

But I digress, I just don't find this match appealing, at all as someone who grew up on the myth and mystique of the Undertaker, let the streak of Undertaker match at Wrestlemania end.

TheFallenOneX

03-13-2018, 05:30 PM

Another idea: Let Taker come out with a spiritual successor to his Wrestlemania Legacy, and have the Demon King Finn Balor start his own WM streak (let it be the only time of year he dresses up in his Demon King gear special entrance etc.

Droford

03-13-2018, 05:33 PM

ClockShot

03-13-2018, 05:34 PM

It's gotta be a handicap match.

Undertaker comes out in a wheelchair, Cena in a metal straightjacket and maybe on of his legs in a cast.

Simple Fan

03-13-2018, 05:41 PM

Not really excited about the match. Taker returning as Biker Taker would peak some interest. Kind of makes sense after the guy leaving all his stuff in the ring the last couple years and Kid Rock going into the HOF.

03-13-2018, 05:47 PM

Maybe that’s what they’re going for with the “worked shoot” theme? We’re getting Mark, rather than The Undertaker.

mike adamle

03-13-2018, 06:12 PM

Gerard

03-13-2018, 07:07 PM

I'm extremely excited for this one. Probably more hyped for this than anything else on the card. And no way they're gonna have him be biker taker, they have to do the deadman taker entrance, it's mania.

He done the biker taker entrance at a few mania's. Not sure what the significance of the event is in that regard.

mike adamle

03-13-2018, 07:21 PM

That was before Mania revolved around him

Jordan

03-13-2018, 07:54 PM

I'm hyped because it's one of the dream matches we haven't seen and also because I think the crowd will be really hot.

Corkscrewed

03-13-2018, 10:01 PM

I was really hoping that Braun was going to answer the Cena last night and challenge him to a match at WM, since Strowman was without an opponent at the start of the show too. Would have been something different, and Super Cena vs Monster Among Men would have been a fun dynamic in the build-up.

Droford

03-13-2018, 10:28 PM

I'm hyped because it's one of the dream matches we haven't seen and also because I think the crowd will be really hot.

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Jordan

03-13-2018, 10:58 PM

I think that was The Fake Undertaker.

Mr. Nerfect

03-13-2018, 11:35 PM

I'm not that into Taker, but I'll take whatever I can get of Cena. He's going to work his ass off to prove that he can deliver with Taker. Low expectations means it will likely exceed them. I hope JR is on commentary.

Fignuts

03-13-2018, 11:55 PM

this would have excited me 5 years ago

Luigi

03-14-2018, 12:56 AM

I have zero interest in this match, but I believe the correct decision here would be to have Undertaker go over Cena. This would achieve the following:

1) Make Reigns and Brock look even more special since they would be the only two guys to have beaten Taker.
2) Demonstrate to the fans that Undertaker still has heart and still has the ability to overcome all odds.
3) play into Cena’s, “do I still got it?” angle.

My hope is that Braun Strowman will be the one to definitively retire Undertaker later this year at Summerslam or something.

Damian Rey 2.0

03-14-2018, 01:37 AM

Casual fans and kiddies aren't sitting there thinking to themselves "gee, Cena couldn't beat Undertaker, but Reigns and Brock did. Guess Cena isn't on their level". It's never mentioned. Add that Reigns and Lesnar have already beaten Cena clean as a whistle.

Cena v Taker is nothing more than a special attraction match. Regardless of who wins it'll lead nowhere because Taker isn't sticking around and Cena very well may not be either.

Luigi

03-14-2018, 04:47 AM

Fair enough, but I think Taker jobbing again would start to tarnish his legacy a little. Taker should go over Cena at Mania in my opinion. Cena then continues his “do I still got it?” Schtick, while a guy like Braun can be the one to officially end Undertaker later in the yyear. Cena doesn’t need that notch on his belt.

Damian Rey 2.0

03-14-2018, 10:28 AM

Taker already is tarnishing his legacy. He's been in meaningless go nowhere matches for years. Cena should win for the sheer fact that he'll still be around in some capacity after Mania. Taker will not be. We also both know that Cena won't go anywhere with the "do I still got it" shtick because it's being used to force an angle and match.

Destor

03-14-2018, 11:25 AM

Im not excited but the match will deliver

Loose Cannon

03-14-2018, 11:30 AM

Juan

03-15-2018, 09:40 AM

Im not excited but the match will deliver

Nicky Fives

03-15-2018, 11:05 AM

I fthey are as serious as they seem to be with Strowman, they should have him DESTROY Undertaker at Mania.... like under 5 minutes. Then he has bragging rights over both Reigns & Lesnar, "You may have beaten Undertaker before, but I beat him quicker and more decisively, give me a title match". Easy post-mania feud.

Stickman

03-15-2018, 11:58 AM

I am not excited about this match and I don't think it will deliver.

DAMN iNATOR

03-15-2018, 08:08 PM

I am not excited about this match and I don't think it will deliver.

Mr. Nerfect

03-17-2018, 01:36 AM

Random prediction: Crowd is surprisingly into John Cena. I think we're about to enter a point in time where even the detached and habitual Cena hate melts away. But that might be a bit bold to predict it so soon.

James Steele

03-17-2018, 01:46 AM

The crowd has gone nuts the two promos Cenas has done mentioning the idea of a Taker match. Cena will be able to pull a good match out of Undertaker, and hopefully Taker’s surgeries allow him to be better than his showing last year. This match will deliver because it will be a brawl like no other and the atmosphere and emotion will push it over the top. This is the last dream match left for WWE, and it is going to be tremendous.

Anybody Thrilla

03-17-2018, 01:48 AM

I'll watch it.

Ruien

03-17-2018, 09:22 AM

Mr. Nerfect

03-18-2018, 01:31 AM

The only problem is that Cena often works to the level of his opponent, and Taker is pretty...yeah. I think it will be better from a spectacle perspective, and if Cena breaks his back though.

mike adamle

03-18-2018, 11:17 AM

The only mediocre Taker Mania match since the Casket match at WM 22 was his match against Bray Wyatt at WM 31, and even that wasn't terrible. This match is going to be incredible, probably on par with the Triple H-Taker Mania classics. Which reminds me, I just watched Taker-HHH from Mania 27 and holy fuck what a classic match. That one seems to be forgotten because of all the other classics Taker had over that course of Manias, but that one is just amazing.

Mr. Nerfect

03-18-2018, 09:20 PM

I liked Punk vs. Taker and I'm sure some of his stuff with Brock was good, but their Mania match kind of sucked. I enjoyed Reigns vs. Taker more than it was good because JR was on commentary, but Taker was...not in form.

Tom Guycott

03-19-2018, 12:44 AM

Biker Taker vs Prototype only!

TheFallenOneX

03-20-2018, 11:31 AM

That promo this week, seriously bad.

Destor

03-20-2018, 11:38 AM

I dont watch the weekly shows...elaborate?

Mr. Nerfect

03-21-2018, 05:53 PM

Was it Taker or Cena? Taker's always been an awkward talker in the gimmick.

Juan

03-22-2018, 06:20 AM

You probably would have heard or read by now if Undertaker appeared on Raw, no?

Juan

03-22-2018, 06:24 AM

I dont watch the weekly shows...elaborate?

They're having Cena take the route of calling Taker a coward in order to get Taker to accept the challenge, but it's been coming off really hokey and cheesy and of course, transparent.

Dukelorange

03-22-2018, 07:47 AM

Mr. Nerfect

03-22-2018, 08:53 AM

You probably would have heard or read by now if Undertaker appeared on Raw, no?

Probably not. I haven't been reading reports or anything. I've been going by the dirt sheet thread.

Ruien

03-22-2018, 11:14 AM

With Daniel on the card, the AJ Dream match, The potentially awesome Cruiserweight Title match, the Usos match, the Askua match, the Finn Balor Seth Rollins Miz Match....

Yeah, I'm not really excited about John or Taker right now.

None of the matches you want to see will draw people in. Taker and Cena will even if it's only a okay match.

Destor

03-22-2018, 11:24 AM

A good card has things everyone. Most common thing you see from the ICW is the notion that every match has to be for them and them alone. Danielson is the difference in my reupping the network or not. Taker/Cena is that for a lot people. Rousey, despite her being green and cringy, will be for others. Its a variety show.

Evil Vito

03-22-2018, 11:36 AM

Random thought: If they want to humanize Undertaker, as they've toyed with since at least the Triple H Wrestlemania matches, then they should let him grow his beard out, stop dying it, and shave his head properly. Have him showing up looking like a grizzled, battle-weary old man, not a 50 year old man still wearing mascara and borrowing Batista's Just For Men.

Mr. Nerfect

03-22-2018, 06:12 PM

It's a thought, but it really doesn't bother me. It's the guy's attire. It kind of creates the same vibe when he's still putting it on to go and fight crime.

terryna

03-23-2018, 01:15 PM

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Jordan

03-23-2018, 01:36 PM

I wonder if there will be a physical evolution of the The Undertaker's look this year. He seems to have been trying to grow his hair back long for a few years now. I'd be down with some cool new outfit though. Maybe something that is more complimentary of his aging figure.