Cobra Kai - SPOILERS INSIDE

[Blonde Moment]

Just spent the night binge watching this on Youtube Red
Worth the watch if you are a fan.
Really


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[Kalyx triaD]

First two episodes are free on YT.

[Kalyx triaD]

This is good.

[Swiss Ultimate]

It looks so much better than it should.

[Blonde Moment]

I think the number of episodes really help with the pacing and I definitely hope they keep it to 10-12 if their is another season

[Seanny One Ball]

This looks absolutely incredible.

The heart wants what it wants obviously, and my heart wants Daniel Larusso as a heel.

[Blonde Moment]

I have to watch THe Karate Kid again see if the narrative fits but imo the fact that we actually get to know Johnny, see where he came from makes it very easy to identify with him. It's Worth the 10 bucks if you are afraid of forgetting to cancel your free sub.

[Swiss Ultimate]

I really enjoyed the first two episodes. It works and it could have been a straight comedy or a complete disaster on par with those dumb Sharknado films or anything with Corey Feldman.

It's kind of where you'd expect both characters to end up, honestly. It's just really good.

[Kalyx triaD]

Kinda shocked how hard they're ribbing political correctness. Almost certainly gonna make enemies with that dialogue, especially given Johnny is the hero this time.

[Blonde Moment]

Kinda shocked how hard they're ribbing political correctness. Almost certainly gonna make enemies with that dialogue, especially given Johnny is the hero this time.

Kinda spoiler
There is a big payoff on all this that really sneaks up on everyone, including Johnny

[Kalyx triaD]

I'll kinda read it later.

[Tom Guycott]

Nice.

[Seanny One Ball]

I just read the entire plot and it does look absolutely glorious

[Tom Guycott]

Even better in motion.

Honestly, this is better than it has any right to be, even just from the simple fact that Johnny Lawrence apparently loves him some Iron Eagle.

[Blonde Moment]

Looks to have been renewed for season 2

[Swiss Ultimate]

I should wait until season 2 comes out then use the free trial of YouTube red.

[Swiss Ultimate]

Finished it. Pretty great. Really has no business being this good.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

was so fucking good. all hail William Zabka. There were points I legit got emotional watching it.

[rez]

Bump. Season 2 drops tomorrow

[Tom Guycott]

Watching now. Literally picks up where season 1 left off.

[Tom Guycott]

... and, of course, more Iron Eagle. :y:

[Tom Guycott]

Oh my god, he even DREAMS in the 80's!

[Tom Guycott]

Still fucking hate Sam, though. She is a worthless shitlord.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Have binge watched up until ep 7 so far. Still SOOOOOOOO good.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

well holy shit that finale was wild.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Still fucking hate Sam, though. She is a worthless shitlord.

My main problem is that she is directly responsible for Miguel and Robbie's blood feud. And then SPOILLLLLLLLLLLER DON'T READ gets mad at both guys at the end of each season for fucking the other up after she directly stirred the pot.

[Seanny One Ball]

Cool, cheers for that :lol:

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

well I mean it's the cobra kai thread. You should probably expect spoilers. I ain't rocking the black font.

[Seanny One Ball]

I'm showing the world the correct way to react to spoilers.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

btw Martin Kove was awesome.

It's crazy that these guys were all relegated to b and c movies for the past 30 years. I mean Macchio at least had My Cousin Vinnie. But these are all talented performers. Zabka especially.

[Seanny One Ball]

Billy Zabka and Martin Kove are in a kung fu movie I own. It's called Shoot Fighter and Bolo Yeung actually plays a good guy. That's how evil Martin Kove is... He out villain-ed the worst bad guy from all the JCVD films.

[Seanny One Ball]

Will watch tonight, hopefully get through it by tomorrow. Is it as good then?

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

You'll have to decide for yourself. I REALLLLLLLLLLY enjoyed it. It's getting good reviews with most saying it's a little less good than the 1st season. I think it's probably on par or close to it.

[Seanny One Ball]

I assumed so off the back of you not immediately going nuts and calling it B.S.
I'm reassured now.

[Seanny One Ball]

5 minutes in and my skin is alive with goose pimples.

We. Are. Back!

[Seanny One Ball]

Noriega :lol: oh Martin Kove you glorious man. I believe it.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

lol he is actually hilarious. A very self-aware performance

[Seanny One Ball]

I love how there are no good guys, no bad guys, just people with good intentions fucking up or people with bad intentions rising above them. I think it's my favourite show now.

So fucking good.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

the episodes go by like lighting.

[Seanny One Ball]

Gender what? Is this a prank call?!

[Seanny One Ball]

Shit is about to go all Count Dante up in hurr

[Seanny One Ball]

The beginning of episode 3 with Johnny discovering the internet is absolutely hilarious.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

It's great because Johnny is actually the 80s but in human form.

[Seanny One Ball]

Other shows are going to steal that riff and ruin it but right now it's beautiful man.

[Seanny One Ball]

You were absolutely right about the acting standard in this by the way Dale. Hawk and Dmitry are fucking great right now. Dmitry was so annoying but I get it now, I was blown away by the way his story got rolling.
Hawk's back story is well played too, the smiling parent who doesn't have a clue...

I love this. I really can't say it well enough.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

i saw a podcast where a guy complained about Hawk being one of the worst characters of season 2. I think he was just a mark that got worked by a good heel. Hawk was kind of an underdog antihero who discovered himself in season 1. Whereas, in season 2 while he's not without a couple of redeeming qualities, he's moreorless a prick. But he's good in the role and it makes perfect sense within his arc.

[Seanny One Ball]

Hawk's one of the most realistic characters in the show, his story is common, not over done by any standard and played totally straight. The actor has chops man. He really has a great future ahead of him.

Dmitry is like every good friend I had at High School. We were all nerds.

Christ I even love Sam a bit despite her naivety having worse results than a person that actually tries to cause trouble. Still, totally accurate as far as the people I grew up with were.

[Seanny One Ball]

Robbie looks like he could be yet another Franco brother. This kid is going to get some unbelievable poon in his lifetime.

Probably is right now.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Sam is v cute. And I like Robbie as well... I feel really bad for him. But their acting chops are far inferior to the rest of the teens on the show.

[Seanny One Ball]

Peyton List is poor too. Miguel has been written into a tiny spot in this season. I'd love to see how his screen time compares between the two seasons.

Paul Hauser was a great addition to the show. Fucker is a month younger than me but looks awful. Funny though!

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Hausser is a great addition. Very much indicative of the creators' style.

[Seanny One Ball]

Why can't everything be this simple?

[Seanny One Ball]

Kreese is still a real Jerk!

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

There is a certain kind of wonderment I feel watching Cobra Kai. The scenery is beautiful, the characters are lovable/engaging, and the storylines feel logical.

[Seanny One Ball]

I should have joined when I had the chance

[Seanny One Ball]

Peyton List totally screws the pooch on that "hard knock life" type speech.

That was doggerel and dreadful exposition already but damn, she sucked all the life right out of it.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Yeah. She definitely has her struggles. She serves her purpose as Miguel's boner-fodder though.

[Seanny One Ball]

Wish I could see a computer generated image of my average facial expression while watching this.

I bet it's the dumbest smile in the world.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

lol that was literally me yesterday.

[Seanny One Ball]

Every five minutes I'm watching and I think "Nope, now I hate this person forever." Then another five minutes go by and I think "Ah thank God they did that, what a great thing to do."

It happens like clockwork and it's always with enough different people to keep it fresh.

[Seanny One Ball]

Music has been tits this season.

Two huge songs stand out as (surely) hugely expensive to license for a show this small.

[Seanny One Ball]

Johnny Lawrence is asking questions about modern life that I myself needed answers to.
It's a public service.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Honestly, I think Ralph Macchio is great in the series and he is undeniably loveable. BUT William Zabka blows me away. I didn't think I could root for a character so much. It's kind of like if Bronn was the main character of Game of Thrones.

[Seanny One Ball]

Google Robson and Jerome - "Saturday Night At The Movies".

[Seanny One Ball]

Zabka and Macchio are dynamite together on screen. Episode 9 is the tits.

[Seanny One Ball]

Sam kinda looks like Emilia Clarke

[Seanny One Ball]

Wow...

Emotional freakin roller-coaster right there.
Lightning in a bottle.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

did u watch the last ep?

[Seanny One Ball]

Yeah

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

hectic as fuck, right?

[Seanny One Ball]

The second last episode was the business but the last one was a fight choreographer's wet dream. Kicked off exactly like Begbie in Trainspotting. Ah but the bad thing... The bad thing was fucking crazy.
Saw it coming but vice versa so was caught wildly off guard when it went that way.

Have a theory or two about season 3. I will lose my God Damn mind if Terry Silver shows up.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

The second last episode was the business but the last one was a fight choreographer's wet dream. Kicked off exactly like Begbie in Trainspotting. Ah but the bad thing... The bad thing was fucking crazy.
Saw it coming but vice versa so was caught wildly off guard when it went that way.

Have a theory or two about season 3. I will lose my God Damn mind if Terry Silver shows up.

Read your rep.

[Seanny One Ball]

I think that is a valid and potentially popular opinion. I certainly know what you mean, the build towards it was so brilliant and keeps us all guessing.
The look of shock, shame and guilt on his face was everything that that other franchise got so badly wrong. Unsurprising to think that one of the ingredients in a perfect show really is love.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

It's weird how people won't watch the show when I tell them about it. I guess people just need to discover shit on their own.

[Seanny One Ball]

If you hadn't seen it, it would be very easy to disregard as yet another pointless reboot. People aren't prepared for it man.

I genuinely didn't even remember how much I loved The Karate Kid until I got bored enough to watch it so I do get why people might find it hard to get up for.

I mean all they need is one little taste and it all comes flooding back.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

I enjoyed the first episode, but I could also see how people wouldn't be hooked by it as well. I mean, you're establishing a whole new premise so it's difficult to show what you're going to do in that one ep.

[Seanny One Ball]

I advise you to give "Weird City" a shot.

[Tom Guycott]

The beginning of episode 3 with Johnny discovering the internet is absolutely hilarious.

Of COURSE he goes for porn first... but figures out how to stream Iron Eagle second. Priorities.

[Tom Guycott]

Every five minutes I'm watching and I think "Nope, now I hate this person forever." Then another five minutes go by and I think "Ah thank God they did that, what a great thing to do."

It happens like clockwork and it's always with enough different people to keep it fresh.

Except Samantha. See my earlier comment. She's been a bullshit catalyst since the car accident. She's like Winnie Cooper, but Winnie had the decency to only fuck over one boy's life, not the lives of half her school and two grown men, one of which is her dad.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

You're putting too much on Sam. Robbie caused just as many problems for Daniel and Johnny.

[Seanny One Ball]

Christ I even love Sam a bit despite her naivety having worse results than a person that actually tries to cause trouble. Still, totally accurate as far as the people I grew up with were.

Except Samantha. See my earlier comment. She's been a bullshit catalyst since the car accident. She's like Winnie Cooper, but Winnie had the decency to only fuck over one boy's life, not the lives of half her school and two grown men, one of which is her dad.

You're putting too much on Sam. Robbie caused just as many problems for Daniel and Johnny.

Sam hasn't done anything particularly negligent.

[rez]

Got too more eps to finish. Didn't read the thread after my last post...probably spoilers

[Seanny One Ball]

Just ordered the original movies.

Cobra Kai awakened something inside me which long lay dormant. Probably going to lose my mind until season 3 comes out.

Too good. The show is too damned good.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

lol I watched Karate Kid II.

My main issue with the movie which is an OKAY watch, is that you go from the first movie which is just great in a lot of ways, and you follow it up with what would be a made-for-tv effort if not for the success of the first movie. You still have the awesomeness of Morita and Macchio...as well as the awesome scene with Miyagi pwning Kreese, but I feel like going to Japan really neutered the energy of the franchise.

In saying that, the under-delivery of these sequels is legendary in itself and plays into the overall lore of Cobra Kai. Like how Daniel brought up being embarrassed by his stint AS a Cobra Kai. I didn't notice it, but read a review where it pointed out that it's a nod to the quality of the movie being embarrassing.

Also, the joy of those movies isn't in them being Oscar contenders. It's literally just the awesomeness of karate fighting that makes them fun. Still, the drop in quality after the original is still frustrating. Particularly given the likeability and talent of Macchio and Mortia.

[Seanny One Ball]

Karate Kid Part 3 freakin rules and is the first one I ever saw. I told a girl I knew karate after that, then I feebly kicked a wall at shin height and she got bored and walked off.

Terry Silver is in Karate Kid 3, he's the grease that Kreese needs.

Imagine if they get Hilary Swank involved. She could be the role model Sam truly listens to.

So many ideas...

[Blonde Moment]

I hope this continues for as long as there are interesting stories to tell

[rez]

Also makes you want to watch the American version of 3 Ninjas, 3 Ninjas kick back. aww yis

[Luigi]

I really enjoyed Cobra Kai II. The fight scene in the last episode was epic. Stingray is surprisingly one of my favorite characters on the show, with Johnny and Miguel being my two favorites. The only character that I don't like that much and haven't really connected with is Rob Keane. I suspect that a lot of other fans feel the same way. Given the way Cobra Kai II ended, I think Robbie will be the biggest heel on the show now.

[Seanny One Ball]

I watched the original trilogy again last night. I think I might do a break down of why The Karate Kid 3 is both the best and worst franchise film ever made.

If one of those "Let's Play" people hasn't done Karate Kid 3 yet they are idiots. It's pure quote bait and almost none of the plot makes sense.
Cartoonish evil galore, it is as outlandish as Rocky 5 but with no fight budget.

It's amazing.

[Seanny One Ball]

Terry Silver has to show up in season 3. He's pure evil. Kreese isn't even as evil as he is.

[Seanny One Ball]

I may resubscribe to YouTube just to rewatch all of Cobra Kai.

I just want people to know.

[Seanny One Ball]

My perfect season 3 would be Johnny and Daniel teaming up to fight Martin Kove who brings in Terry Silver.
Meanwhile Elizabeth Shue turns up and wrecks hearts all over again.

I still feel like Robyn Lively is a forgotten love interest. She was hot back when I was a kid.

[Seanny One Ball]

I forgot about Mike Barnes. If they get Barnes back I would erupt into joy as I watched it.

[Seanny One Ball]

SEASON 2 Free on YouTube right now.

[Seanny One Ball]

Get more excited you silly silly people!

[Seanny One Ball]

That battle scene is just tits.

[rez]

Come on S3. Get here already

[Seanny One Ball]

Fu-ckin-aye

[Seanny One Ball]

Terry Silver will show up. I guarantee it.

[rez]

& Ali

[Seanny One Ball]

Well we already know that

[rez]

Yes, us superfans know but what about all these dweebs that might creep this thread?

[Seanny One Ball]

They wouldn't even know who Ali was

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

that final battle was so savage. Still feel bad for Robbie

[rez]

They wouldn't even know who Ali was

They wouldn't even get the TMNT Secret of the Ooze reference to Karate Kid.

[rez]

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[Bobholly138]

My in laws got me the DVD set of seasons 1 and 2 of Cobra Kai for XMas. It even came with a Karate KId headband that is reversable to the Cobra Kai logo.

Now I watched both seasons when they aired on Youtube. ANd the show is great.

It is odd while I grew up in the 80s,turned 6 in 1980,I was never a huge Karate Kid fan. I think part of it was we didn't get cable until 1990,and if I wanted to rent a movie I had already seen my parents would make me pay for the rental.

SO unlike most people my age I didn't see Karate Kid 100 times when TBS or whatever was airing it all the time. Hell I think I have seen the first film maybe 3 times and the second and third ones only once.

[Bobholly138]

Billy Zabka and Martin Kove are in a kung fu movie I own. It's called Shoot Fighter and Bolo Yeung actually plays a good guy. That's how evil Martin Kove is... He out villain-ed the worst bad guy from all the JCVD films.

Shoot Fighter is great. Grabbed it on VHS a few years ago. Worth tracking down if you like DTV action flicks.

[Big Vic]

"At Netflix we believe Black Lives Matter.... except for Aisha in Cobra Kai, she was just axed"

[Seanny One Ball]

Did she seriously get fired?

[Damian Rey 2.0]

She made it sound like the upcoming season had no place for her character.

[Seanny One Ball]

Cobra Kai is only for the strong of spirit

[Damian Rey 2.0]

She was kinda useless as a character anyways. Once she got her comeuppance it was over for her. There was nowhere else for her character to go from there.

I read season 3 is supposed to move to Japan.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

I feel like Robbie should be serving a stint in Juvi for attempted murder.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

I feel like Robbie should be serving a stint in Juvi for attempted murder.

Though, I suppose he could claim a brief bout of Psychosis.

[Seanny One Ball]

That school would be world famous after a karate battle like that went down.

God it was glorious.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

the bulk of the children involved in the fight, at the very least, would have to be expelled. I also imagine , IRL, that Danny, Johnny, and Kreese would be criminally responsible.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Woulda potentially been more "hardcore" had they all broke out into an unsanctioned dance-off.

[Seanny One Ball]

Ugh, no.

Karate or gtfo

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

What about if they competed in a no-holds-barred talent show?

But they had to perform their acts on a 50 foot high scaffold that was hovering over a bed of barbed wire.

[Seanny One Ball]

I hope Robbie kicks YOU!

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

I'm like three-times his size. I'd rassle him to the ground.

[Seanny One Ball]

I'd wrestle Sam to a time limit draw

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

I'd wrestle Sam to a time limit draw

easy tiger. She's like 16.

[Seanny One Ball]

She's 24 irl

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

But Samantha is 16, you sick fuck.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

now if you wanted to roleplay kill her, I'd understand.

[Seanny One Ball]

I'm in the UK.

16 isn't just legal it is encouraged.

[Big Vic]

Moon > Sam

[McLegend]

Just watched the 1st season, and It was great. Billy Zabka fuckin nailed it. He had to be a loser, cool, a dick, and also kind of nice guy all the same time.

Danielsan and Johnny Lawrence are great(like I said above), but all the kids are also really good. I think they got lucky that the kids were able to perform so well. I’m pumped for season 2.

Quick breakdown of the Kid movies since I rewatched them recently.

The Karate Kid- 10/10. Perfect movie and I came to the realization that Myagi> Yoda. Mr. Myagi all time great movie character.


The Karate Kid II- 6/10. It’s better than people remember. It still has it flaws, but the last 10 minutes are the a 10/10. The final fight is an underrated movie fight scene.

Karate Kid III- 0/10, and I never want to watch it again. I hope Terry Silver is in Cobra Kai and either Danielsan or Johnny Lawrence kick his ass in 10 seconds and his arc is finished. He’s the biggest loser villian ever. I wouldn’t mind seeing Mike Stephen’s again, but he was a tad bit too crazy. Again Terry Silver huge loser who sucks.

[McLegend]

The dude from Karate kid III was Mike Barnes. That’s my bad

[Seanny One Ball]

Karate Kid 3 is a fucking crazy film.
It is legitimately as mental as anything I have ever seen before that wasn't trying to be mental.

Terry Silver is chewing up scenery like Faye Dunaway in Mommy Dearest, he's the most cartoonishly Nic Cage villain of all time.

It was gloriously bad.
It really swung for the fences.

[McLegend]

Season 1 is better than 2.

I can’t wait for season 3.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

IMO season 2 is great, especially the last episode where Robbie gives Miguel a traumatic spinal injury.

Season 1 definitely has the "this is a whole new take on the Karate Kid Franchise" momentum. But season 2 holds strong.

[McLegend]

Miguel’s Dad is going to either be Chozen or Mike Barnes right? It can’t be some new character. I feel like everything has to go back to the original movies.

[teamXtremist]

The show started on Youtube. I'm sure whatever small amount of money the production company had to pay the actors, 90% of it went to Macchio (Daniel), Zabka (Johnny), and Kove (Kreese). Hard to find quality actors when they're likely being paid peanuts. The show's success and popularity likely has exceeded their expectations, but now they're stuck with the cast of mediocre actors.

Anecdotally people Gen X types like it like crazy. But maybe they are casting a wider net? IDK, there was so much cringe in season 2 but I held on. lol.

[teamXtremist]

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So his famous line in Karate Kid was "get him a body bag! Yeah!"

His last scene in Cobra Kai: him being zipped up into a body bag.:rofl::lol:

[Seanny One Ball]

I knew I shouldn't have viewed those posts

[McLegend]

IMO season 2 is great, especially the last episode where Robbie gives Miguel a traumatic spinal injury.

Season 1 definitely has the "this is a whole new take on the Karate Kid Franchise" momentum. But season 2 holds strong.

I really like season 2, but I think I would rather rewatch season 1.

The last episode’s fight was great and done really well, but I felt like it was too much. I don’t know how to explain it. I have to think about this more.

Besides feeling bad for Miguel I do bad for Robbie. He had a really bad day and a half there leading up to that final kick.

[teamXtremist]

I really like season 2, but I think I would rather rewatch season 1.

The last episode’s fight was great and done really well, but I felt like it was too much. I don’t know how to explain it. I have to think about this more.

Besides feeling bad for Miguel I do bad for Robbie. He had a really bad day and a half there leading up to that final kick.

Yeah season 2 got cringey at times with the high school storylines Esp the Mohawk columbine looking psycho kid.
But the Johnny and Danny scenes make it all worth it imo. The restaurant episode was awesome.

[teamXtremist]

LOL Johnny's kid is so ficking bad i started to enjoy it bc his mere appearance makes me laugh

[Kenny Powers]

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So his famous line in Karate Kid was "get him a body bag! Yeah!"

His last scene in Cobra Kai: him being zipped up into a body bag.:rofl::lol:

That was the point.

[Kenny Powers]

This looks absolutely incredible.

The heart wants what it wants obviously, and my heart wants Daniel Larusso as a heel.

Larusso would have never agreed to go full blown heel as this would be perceived as being too dispresectful to Mr.Miyagi/Pat. Ralph Maccio's desire for the Cobra Kai series was to have Mr. Miyagi's influence to be strongly present.

[Kenny Powers]

Still fucking hate Sam, though. She is a worthless shitlord.

I don't hate Sam, but her and Rob Keane are arguably my two least favourite characters for whatever reason. I'm not if it's genuine dislike of these two, or if it's the fact that I'm a huge mark for both Miguel and Kreese.

[Kenny Powers]

Have binge watched up until ep 7 so far. Still SOOOOOOOO good.

I binge watched all 10 episodes for both seasons, and have also watched both seasons three times.

[Kenny Powers]

I love how there are no good guys, no bad guys, just people with good intentions fucking up or people with bad intentions rising above them. I think it's my favourite show now.

So fucking good.

Kreese would probably be considered a legit bad guy, but you might even be right here. The series does a good job of illustrating how Kreese experienced some tough shit down in Vietnam and became conditioned into thinking that one needs to win at all costs and that showing mercy is to one's own peril.

[Kenny Powers]

You were absolutely right about the acting standard in this by the way Dale. Hawk and Dmitry are fucking great right now. Dmitry was so annoying but I get it now, I was blown away by the way his story got rolling.
Hawk's back story is well played too, the smiling parent who doesn't have a clue...

I love this. I really can't say it well enough.

I have a feeling that Dmitry and Moon will become a couple in Season Three which will add further tension between Dmitry and Hawk.

[Kenny Powers]

Hawk's one of the most realistic characters in the show, his story is common, not over done by any standard and played totally straight. The actor has chops man. He really has a great future ahead of him.

Dmitry is like every good friend I had at High School. We were all nerds.

Christ I even love Sam a bit despite her naivety having worse results than a person that actually tries to cause trouble. Still, totally accurate as far as the people I grew up with were.

The Cobra Kai series does an excellent job of explaining and accounting for Hawk's current chosen behaviour.

[Kenny Powers]

Peyton List totally screws the pooch on that "hard knock life" type speech.

That was doggerel and dreadful exposition already but damn, she sucked all the life right out of it.

Not sure if I agree with this. I thought Peyton played the role fairly well. In the last episode where she says, "I'm coming for you bitch," came across as extremely believable for me. I don't have any issues with List's acting at all.

[Kenny Powers]

Predictions for Season III:

1) Terry Silver won't be aligned with Kreese. I think the storyline will reveal at some point that Kreese badly screwed over Terry Silver at some point during their lives and that Terry is now a junkie-drug addict. Johnny will do some background history checks on Kreese and this is how he will learn the name of Terry Silver. Johnny will track down Terry, and Terry will give Johnny some advice about Kreese.

2) Miguel heel turn. Miguel will be a full blown heel in Season 3. After showing mercy to Rob Keane and paying the price for it, Miguel will fully embrace Kreese's philosophies.

3) Chozen will give Daniel some advice in Japan. Chozen will have grown up and matured.

4) Ali Mills will return to the show, and it will be revealed that the reason why she left Daniel in the first place was because he was too obsessed with Karate and Mr. Miyagi.

5) Dmitiri and Moon become an item which adds more fuel and tension between Dmitri and Hawk.

6) Beebop and Rocksteady continue their rivalry, as do those two small kids.

[rez]

sucks Aisha won't return

[Kenny Powers]

Karate Kid Part 3 freakin rules and is the first one I ever saw. I told a girl I knew karate after that, then I feebly kicked a wall at shin height and she got bored and walked off.

Terry Silver is in Karate Kid 3, he's the grease that Kreese needs.

Imagine if they get Hilary Swank involved. She could be the role model Sam truly listens to.

So many ideas...

I like your Hilary Swank idea. Wouldn't be too farfetched to assume that she's associated with Daniel's family somehow due to the common mutual friend in Miyagi.

I also loved Karate Kid II and III, although an argument can be made that the movies should have happened in reverse orders (i.e. Going to Japan after the Silver/Kreese/Barnes shit).

My only other annoyance with Karate Kid II and III is how Daniel was able to defeat Chozen, yet struggled mightily with Mike Barnes. In theory, Chozen would have been able to beat the living fuck out of Barnes given that Chozen was training military soldiers in Japan.

[Kenny Powers]

She was kinda useless as a character anyways. Once she got her comeuppance it was over for her. There was nowhere else for her character to go from there.

I read season 3 is supposed to move to Japan.

Pretty much this. Peyton List is pretty much Sam's main rival, while Moon has taken over as Sam's best friend (and in my prediction, Dmitri's future boyfriend).

[Kenny Powers]

sucks Aisha won't return

It sucks but it makes sense. There was no storyline available for her. It's also why Kyler and Yasmine received the dick after Season 1.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Can't embed but new trailer just dropped and my God I want it now.

https://youtu.be/YjAJhmqKPEU

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Damn. Poor Robbie.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

At least he got a haircut

[rez]

Trailer is so silly..

I need this now.

[Seanny One Ball]

Nothing silly about it.

In fact it is the least silly thing ever made.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Cobra Kai is v serious business.

[rez]

I just don't know what to think about Russo and Chozen being friendly.

[Seanny One Ball]

Me and a colleague got matching Cobra Kai shirts.
It's the dojo symbol.

Basically me and the old bald guy at work spent the whole day walking together and found out we both love TKK & CK so now we are essentially bff's...
Cobra Kai has changed the game in so many ways.
I am grateful to Cobra Kai.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

So jealous, Seanny

[Seanny One Ball]

I'm not going to say you're wrong to be jealous, because frankly it was a great day.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Seriously, Cobra Kai is the shit. Fucking love it and Billy Zabka is my hero.

[Seanny One Ball]

Robert Mark Kamen is my hero.

He is living the dream.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Cobra Kai is nothing without Zabka's outtanowhere soulful performance.

Ralph is really good too--good to see he's getting more consistent work again because he's always had talent. But the Zabman is what drew me in.

[Bad News Gertner]

Just out for a nightly stroll around my Kingdom.

Carry on

[Seanny One Ball]

lol

[rez]

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We get it earlier! Thanks, Johnny!

[rez]

My weekend is gonna be this and the last season of Chilling Adventures of Sabrina.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Could never get into Sabrina. Fun to see Sally Draper get a chance to flex her chops though.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

buzzsawing through the season already. A blast--as expected.

[Seanny One Ball]

Going to see if the pirate site has it up

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Martin Kove is fucking great

[Seanny One Ball]

First episode is very funny, probably trying to balance out how fucked up the reality of that fight would be with a few extra laughs.

You're not a doctor...

[Seanny One Ball]

It looks like Martin Kove's shoulders disappeared or his arms grow straight out of his ribcage...looks weird.

[Seanny One Ball]

That prison visit scene is an all time classic.
I laughed hard at that, then had the giggles at the notion of it afterwards.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Just started. Let's fucking go baybay!

[Black Widow]

On episode 4 so far so good.

[rez]

just binged half of season 3. oh my

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

I was a zombie after a long new years eve, so I just put back the entire season. Very satisfying.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

I like what they're doing with Kreese--he's almost likeable yet still a complete villain in every way.

[rez]

damn..sliced through the second half as well. so good

[rez]

Young Kreese was spot on

[Seanny One Ball]

Episodes 5&6 are dynamite TV

[Seanny One Ball]

Last episode shaping up to be even better than the last season's finale.
So many fights in a row, it's like the end of a videogame.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

The Miguel/Johnny relationship is the lifeblood of the show. Those two have awesome chemistry.

[Seanny One Ball]

Terry Silver is definitely the army buddy Kreese calls. They did a pretty amazing red-herring by killing off the soldier that actually looked like Terry Silver though. That threw me a bit. I mean the guy looked way more like Terry Silver than Twig or whatever his name was. Then he got shot. Hmmmm. They tried to make me think it wasn't Terry Silver but it will be. It has to be. Watch Karate Kid 3 if you don't believe me.
I know it better than the others because it was so badass to me, a child.

[Seanny One Ball]

Damn, I just found an article that came up with the same red herring theory.

https://screencrush.com/cobra-kai-season-4-villain/

Good stuff

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

At one point, Kreese's commander (or whatever he is) calls twig Silver, I believe.

[rez]

Terry Silver is definitely the army buddy Kreese calls. They did a pretty amazing red-herring by killing off the soldier that actually looked like Terry Silver though. That threw me a bit. I mean the guy looked way more like Terry Silver than Twig or whatever his name was. Then he got shot. Hmmmm. They tried to make me think it wasn't Terry Silver but it will be. It has to be. Watch Karate Kid 3 if you don't believe me.
I know it better than the others because it was so badass to me, a child.

read that at one point the captain yells, "Silver!". I haven't went back and confirmed but yeah...Twig is 100% Terry.

[rez]

At one point, Kreese's commander (or whatever he is) calls twig Silver, I believe.

haha yaaa

[rez]

I cannot believe they brought the actual actress that was from KK2 that Daniel rescued during the storm. That's fan service to a whole new level!

[rez]

The Miguel/Johnny relationship is the lifeblood of the show. Those two have awesome chemistry.

I half expected that Miguel's mom had a 2nd job at the country club and would see Johnny with Ali. A lot of curveballs this season!

[rez]

Tory is such an insufferable bitch. Gr8 character

[rez]

My ONLY complaint this season was Hawk's sudden epiphany during the house fight. Like, really? There was subtle showings but ffs. It's not like he wasn't one of the leaders breaking into the house...plus the arm break earlier. I think it would have been better to wait to have his character redemption next season

[rez]

I'd still bone the shit out of Tamlyn Tomita and Elisabeth Shue

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Re: Hawk

I think Kyler joining Cobra Kai was a tipping point. Suddenly, he found himself in the bloody fight and he's on fucking Kyler's side beating the shit out of his once bestfriends. It's what snapped him out of it. Plus, he was haunted by breaking Dmitri's arm.

That said, I agree, more focus should have been centered around his struggle. They touched upon his trauma last season and I wish they gave us more.

[rez]

True true... I'm still making mental notes. As an OG YouTube Red/Premium member, I waited soooo long for S3 to come compared to the watchers that came around when it swapped to Netflix.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

the moment in question was very Darth Vader at the end of Return of the Jedi when he press slams the Emperor. Despite it's sorta randomness, that fact in and of itself makes me enjoy it.

[rez]

I think that character will take a backseat next season. Too much other shit going on. He'll probably have a tournament moment that is his real character redemption. I still cannot imagine Mrs. LaRusso giving him Crystal Light any time soon at the dojo.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

This damn Mr. Myagi letter is ripping me to shreds right now.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

I think that character will take a backseat next season. Too much other shit going on. He'll probably have a tournament moment that is his real character redemption. I still cannot imagine Mrs. LaRusso giving him Crystal Light any time soon at the dojo.

I think they wanted to explore more with him. There was untapped potential to take a real deep dive--but I think there's just too much going on.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Ralph Macchio was such a good underdog babyface as a kid

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

He definitely knew how to fight from beneath and sell without dying.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

He definitely knew how to fight from beneath and sell without dying.

The Bret Hart of 80s teen movies

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

He's honestly just a very good actor. I wonder if his association with the 80s/very early 90s prevented him from landing more roles over the past few decades.

Now that he's more seasoned, he's working pretty consistently as more of a character actor. He played a dirty cop in The Deuce (written by the same dude who created the Wire) and was great.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

I think the Karate Kid series doomed him. The Outsiders was a breakthrough for a lot of its young cast. The next thing he did was Karate Kid.

Meanwhile the show continues doing a good job of making most of Cobra Kai, especially Hawk, unlikable assholes.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

You forget he was also in my cousin vinnie and very good. There's a few other roles he had with much success. I'm sure Karate Kid didn't help too much--probably because he's got such a distinct appearance.

[Black Widow]

Re: Hawk

I think Kyler joining Cobra Kai was a tipping point. Suddenly, he found himself in the bloody fight and he's on fucking Kyler's side beating the shit out of his once bestfriends. It's what snapped him out of it. Plus, he was haunted by breaking Dmitri's arm.

That said, I agree, more focus should have been centered around his struggle. They touched upon his trauma last season and I wish they gave us more. Has anyone got their ass beat on the show more than this Kyler guy?

[Damian Rey 2.0]

You forget he was also in my cousin vinnie and very good. There's a few other roles he had with much success. I'm sure Karate Kid didn't help too much--probably because he's got such a distinct appearance.

I'm glad he's back in the limelight, getting the praise and credit he's deserved for a while. It's kinda like Michael Keaton. He's done a ton since Batman Returns, but only recently has he seemingly received the praise he deserves, and now he's coming full circle by getting to be Batman again.

Keaton Batman and Daniel-San back in our lives. What a time to be alive.

[rez]

Has anyone got their ass beat on the show more than this Kyler guy?

good point. he was supposed to be a good rassler, maybe decent judo. nope

[rez]

"These kids have no respect for prior generations!"

beer held

under 18 karate dojo attacks house

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

I felt bad for Robbie but it was pretty funny when he was pissed at seeing Miguel and Sam. Like, my dude, you temporarily paralyzed this guy, you don't really have the right to be pissed. Plus, Miguel isn't even mad at Robbie for injuring him.

[rez]

ah shit. yeah, he just became a plot point that got out of juvey way early

[rez]

thought a good storyline could have happened between him and his bully. nah

[rez]

too many storylines, even with billboard ads. the show needs social media fights between the dweedbs

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Just finished up. I lied about Hawk. While he's been unlikable for a while, he at least seemed to have some regret and eventually tries redeeming himself.

Robbie on the other hand, is just a big dummy. He continually acts irrationally and jumps to conclusions, making wrong decision after wrong decision and hating everyone else for it.

He's like the Wish app version of his dad. All the bad attitude and poor decision making, none of the personal growth and charm.

Loved season 3. Loved the callbacks, which they continually do really well without making it overkill. I love the big brawls they keep incorporating. The cheese factor is still great. Elizabeth Shue was used perfectly. And now season 4 is set up nicely.

I love this show so much.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

If there's one thing this show gets right, it's cheesiness. Hits strong like an aged Manchego.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

thought a good storyline could have happened between him and his bully. nah

Remember, there's always next season. That bully might find himself in Cobra Kai.

[Seanny One Ball]

The Hawk/Dmitri angle was probably the best, most shocking thing about season 3.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

The Hawk/Dmitri angle was probably the best, most shocking thing about season 3.

It certainly came outta nowhere as hawk seemed hell bent on being an asshole.

Also, they're just going all in on Tory being a crazy, unstable, jealous jezebel.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

They make her sympathetic in a way....I think where Kreese goes, she will go. And IMO, Kreese will have his redemption.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

They didn't play up her struggles too much. At least not after establishing that she was dealt a tough hand.

But I get her descent into madness more than Robbie. Robbie has people trying to help him and he just refuses and keeps being a big dummy making awful decisions.

Another thing I wanted to note is how they used Ali. She was sassy and confident and funny. I was worried that Johnny was gonna ruin what he had with Carmen by clinging to Ali. Then she gave him the whole go get your future speech and Johnny didn't do anything dumb.

[Seanny One Ball]

My boss at work spoiled big chunks of this for my colleague just to be a dick.

Was bad.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Hmm...what's the dynamic there? Depending on the situation, I either hate or like your boss.

[rez]

Johnny shouldn't be alive. The dude lives off Coors Banquet beers, gas station food, and the occasional old as fuck OJ. Yet...YET.. Ali thought about dat unwashed dick hours after Carmen was on it.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Johnny has killer genes and looks killer in jeans.

[Seanny One Ball]

Hmm...what's the dynamic there? Depending on the situation, I either hate or like your boss.

He wanted to hurt us but settled for collateral damage

[McLegend]

That season 3 finale is an all time TV episode.

Unreal

[McLegend]

Looks like Seanny and Dale get their wish.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

I feel like Robbie should be serving a stint in Juvi for attempted murder.

Happy I pointed this out when Season 2 ended. Feel like a genius.

[McLegend]

One minor complaint..

I like the Kresse backstory, but I also hate the Kreese backstory. It’s done really well, but John Kresse should not be sympathetic. He’s the greatest villain ever I don’t need a backstory for him.

Again with that said it is done well.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

I see where you're coming from but the whole point of the show is to make very black and white characters various shades of grey. Of course, Kreese is still black but now with a very minor touch of grey.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

I like that we got to see where Kreese's humanity ended. It makes him that much better a villain. He was a good man. He could be again. But he chooses not to be.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Also that British Bulldog/Hart Foundation/WM3 reference was awesome. So specific too. A thing of beauty.

#WorldClassReferences

[Big Vic]

One minor complaint..

I like the Kresse backstory, but I also hate the Kreese backstory. It’s done really well, but John Kresse should not be sympathetic. He’s the greatest villain ever I don’t need a backstory for him.

Again with that said it is done well.

The only thing I really disliked about it was that he beat up the 2 jocks with martial arts with no training after they were making him out to be some loser.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

The only thing I really disliked about it was that he beat up the 2 jocks with martial arts with no training after they were making him out to be some loser.

How do you know he had no martial arts training? They never clarified that.

[Black Widow]

Johnny has killer genes and looks killer in jeans.
Whole cast is pretty attractive minus one or two people.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Samantha v pretty and adorable but I'd let Tory wreck my life

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Something about Tory's face irritates me.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Same with Robbie.

Those 2 belong together with their stupid fucking annoying faces.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Same with Robbie.

Those 2 belong together with their stupid fucking annoying faces.

Robbie has 90s boy band face. I get what you mean about Tory. I think it's her facial expression. But she's hot so I'll let it pass.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Robbie immediately reminded me of Shawn Hunter from Boy Meets World.

[McLegend]

Just watched The next Karate Kid. I wouldn’t recommend watching it, because it’s a terrible movie. Now if you do watch it pay attention to how great Hilary Swank was.

I’m not referring to her acting I’m referring to her Karate. She’s a great athlete. She rivals all the Cobra Kai kids in athleticism.

So I’m totally cool if Hilary Swank joins Cobra Kai at some point.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

As am I. Are we also gonna get Jackie Chan and Jayden Smith?

[Seanny One Ball]

That seems like the sort of question someone might ask if they wanted a good sized punch in the face.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

I suppose they could be in it if they played themselves as actors in a cameo.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Actually, I suppose they could exist in the same universe. The movie wasn't terrible. Jackie Chan was great. It was just utterly superfluous and unnecessary.