RAW thread 5/14/2018 - Now with 100% less spoilers... and 100% MORE Roman Reigns - "OH MY!"

[DAMN iNATOR]

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Seth Rollins to defend the Intercontinental title in London tonight

Ever the fighting champion, Seth Rollins has defended his Intercontinental Title across four continents in the past three weeks, and he’s willing to put his prize on the line against anyone that answers the call.

On Saturday, The Kingslayer issued an Open Challenge for Monday Night Raw, emanating from London’s O2 Arena. Ever the opportunist, Kevin Owens responded, taking the time to talk a little trash in the process. Rollins then replied to KO, stating very clearly that he planned to take Owens down tonight.

Rollins and Owens have a storied history. The pair brawled over the Universal Championship back in 2016 — including a savage Hell in a Cell Match — and they’ve never held back in any of their confrontations. With Team Red’s workhorse title on the line, this one’s sure to be must-see.

Can Rollins keep his monumental reign going, or will KO become a three-time Intercontinental Champion? Don’t miss Raw at 8/7 C on USA Network!


• Bobby Roode, Baron Corbin and No Way José to battle in a Money in the Bank Qualifying Match

• Alexa Bliss, Bayley and Mickie James to battle in a Money in the Bank Qualifying Match

• Two Raw opportunities remain for the Men’s Money in the Bank Ladder Match

[LibSuperstar]

Gonna miss the action b/c work but I know Rollins-Owens should be good.

[Dark One]

Can someone who read the spoilers tell me if this is a tolerable show or no?

[erickman]

boooo

[KIRA]

Can someone who read the spoilers tell me if this is a tolerable show or no?

Roman Reigns and Jinder Mahal START the show

[Dark One]

"Typical United Kingdom reception for Roman Reigns"

Listen man. You have this reaction like four weeks in a row, it's not typical location reception. It's the typical reception, full stop no caveats.

[DAMN iNATOR]

"Typical United Kingdom reception for Roman Reigns"

Listen man. You have this reaction like four weeks in a row, it's not typical location reception. It's the typical reception, full stop no caveats.

He has to say it to avoid being gang raped by Vince and Roman after the show.

[DAMN iNATOR]

Did Kurt say "Brock Lester"? Kinda sounded like it.

[KIRA]

"Add me in"

"BOOOOOOO"

[Lock Jaw]

Can someone who read the spoilers tell me if this is a tolerable show or no?

Do you really need to read the spoilers to know?

[rez]

Roman taking out the catering table. what a super dick.

[KIRA]

Jinder Mahal is in the right here

[KIRA]

VINCE: we're across the pond how is he still getting booed?

[DAMN iNATOR]

Roman taking out the catering table. what a super dick.

He had to save Nia and Rhyno from themselves.

[ClockShot]

I'm probably better off watching the Hockey game than this with how the spoilers play out.

[Dark One]

Not sure that opening up your show with two of the most despised pushes in the past couple of years is a smart move, but hey, WWE is a perpetual motion cash machine at this point I guess.

[Evil Vito]

Watched the first segment. Laughed very hard at how tone deaf it was. Then immediately went onto WWE Network to cancel my auto-renewal for later in the week.

Now to go watch hockey instead.

[KIRA]

Not sure that opening up your show with two of the most despised pushes in the past couple of years is a smart move, but hey, WWE is a perpetual motion cash machine at this point I guess.

Could have been much much much worse it could have been Mojo Riley and Roman Reigns

[RP]

That ring announcer looks like she's ready to be fucked by the entire roster.

[KIRA]

Doesn't the champion usually come out after the Challenger
Damn Europe it really is backward people booing Roman Reigns The Challenger getting to come out Iast.

[RP]

That ring announcer looks like a hooker i've seen in Las Vegas quite a few times.

[RP]

I'm not so sure i havent banged a JoJo in Las Vegas from the streets.

[slik]

Roman gets booed

"This is the post boxing-day crowd, an atypical crowd"

[Dark One]

Falcon Arrow on the apron, jesus

[Dark One]

Roman gets booed

"This is the post boxing-day crowd, an atypical crowd"

"TYPICAL KALAMAZOO REACTION FOR ROMAN REIGNS!"

"It's the Raw after Sunday, where the crowd boos who they normally cheer and cheer who they normally boo!"

[KIRA]

"TYPICAL KALAMAZOO REACTION FOR ROMAN REIGNS!"

"It's the Raw after Sunday, where the crowd boos who they normally cheer and cheer who they normally boo!"

I don't think I've hated JBL more than the moment he spewed that pack of Lies

[KIRA]

I really wish Vince would put Seth Rollins in the spot that he insists Roman Reigns be in

[Lock Jaw]

Pretty good match right now

[KIRA]

I feel like after Shawn Michaels retirement everybody scrambled to use the super kick as often as possible so that in case he comes back they will have had their fill.

[Dark One]

I really wish Vince would put Seth Rollins in the spot that he insists Roman Reigns be in

This would never work.

Roman goes "OOOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAHHHH!"

Seth goes "Burn it down!"

Clearly can't be swapped.

[Dark One]

That spinning fisherman's buster/suplex to counter a superplex is one of my favorite moves in the business right now 100%

[KIRA]

What the hell was that Owens did off the top rope that was nuts

[Dark One]

Roman Reigns vs Jinder Mahal
Nia Jax vs Ronda Rousey

pls stahp

[KIRA]

Are we sure that Baron Corbin and no way Jose being in a match together isn't a sign of the Apocalypse

[Dark One]

Are we sure that Baron Corbin and no way Jose being in a match together isn't a sign of the Apocalypse



pls stahp

[Dark One]

Why did Nia murder a banquet table cloth to make an atrocious suit.

[Lock Jaw]

Wonder who Kurt is talking to

[KIRA]

Why did Nia murder a banquet table cloth to make an atrocious suit.

Is that what that is

[Lock Jaw]

The B Team

[KIRA]

Kurt's phone wasn't even on

[Lock Jaw]

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/prowrestling/images/b/b1/The_Killer_Bees.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20091004215830

[Dark One]

Kurt's phone wasn't even on

He uses it as cover for his telepathy.

Professor X was based on Kurt Angle.

[erickman]

b team on the b show

[KIRA]

I want to believe that despite their obvious Mook status that Curtis and Bo Dallas are having a lot of fun

[KIRA]

He uses it as cover for his telepathy.

Professor X was based on Kurt Angle.

I didn't know Xavier was a pill-popping wrestling machine that broke his neck got to get back in the Marvel Comics man.

[Dark One]

I didn't know Xavier was a pill-popping wrestling machine that broke his neck got to get back in the Marvel Comics man.

How else do you think he was confined to a wheelchair?

[KIRA]

How else do you think he was confined to a wheelchair?

.........oh shit....:eek:

[KIRA]

All the WWE talk about progress in women's wrestling yet their briefcase is noticeably smaller than the men's

[Emperor Smeat]

Missed the first hour, was the Rollins-Owens match really good?

[rez]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bp9IRpJCIAAwzdj.jpg

[RP]

lol ok so They're making me root for Mahal. OK I will then.

[Dark One]

So with the team name "The B-Team" Axel and Dallas are Raw's mascots now, right?

[Emperor Smeat]

So with the team name "The B-Team" Axel and Dallas are Raw's mascots now, right?

If they had a third guy, could have had each guy wear a letter as a costume to form the RAW logo

[slik]

just noticed RAW is not trending worldwide this week
combined w/ how dead this thread is (pg 2) not a good sign for raw ratings this week

[slik]

I think WWE is starting to slowly lose some popularity tbh

[Droford]

just noticed RAW is not trending worldwide this week
combined w/ how dead this thread is (pg 2) not a good sign for raw ratings this week

Taped RAWs always suffer cause people read spoilers

[Droford]

I Wonder if they'll legit make those shirts.

[Dark One]

just noticed RAW is not trending worldwide this week
combined w/ how dead this thread is (pg 2) not a good sign for raw ratings this week

Wait.

THEY COMBINED THE STAR POWER OF JINDER MAHAL AND ROMAN REIGNS. HOW COULD THIS POSSIBLY FAIL.

[KIRA]

Fandango still over in London

[KIRA]

I do not understand why Rhino is not selling his weight loss regimen he can make a killing

[Emperor Smeat]

:lol: at Curtis and Bo's reactions to winning a match.

[slik]

when breezango loses clean to axel it's all downhill from there for them

[Dark One]

Congratulations to the B-Team for winning with a Dudleyz transition move.

[Dark One]

Also RIP to Curtis Axel's dope theme and welcome to Generic Jobber Theme #67

[Droford]

So wait, AJ Nakamura 4 is tomorrow night

....

[Dark One]

So wait, AJ Nakamura 4 is tomorrow night

....

When the world ends in a nuclear holocaust, AJ and Nakamura will still be punching each other in the balls.

When the earth fractures and spirals out into space, AJ and Nakamura will be on one of those rocks, still punching each other in the balls.

When heat death claims the universe and everything down to an atom vanishes from existence, AJ and Nakamura will still be punching each other in the dick until the last shred of existence fades.

[KIRA]

Why does Sarah Logan have maxi pad sticking out of the thighs of her pants

[Emperor Smeat]

When the world ends in a nuclear holocaust, AJ and Nakamura will still be punching each other in the balls.

When the earth fractures and spirals out into space, AJ and Nakamura will be on one of those rocks, still punching each other in the balls.

When heat death claims the universe and everything down to an atom vanishes from existence, AJ and Nakamura will still be punching each other in the dick until the last shred of existence fades.

And yet Styles will still stubbornly refuse to wear a cup.

[KIRA]

And yet Styles will still stubbornly refuse to wear a cup.

I would love for them to have a Canon explanation for that but this company is stupid I'm just happy we're getting AJ and Nakamura at all

They could say something like AJ's balls are just that huge that he can't find one to accommodate them

[Emperor Smeat]

I would love for them to have a Canon explanation for that but this company is stupid I'm just happy we're getting AJ and Nakamura at all

Easiest would be that Styles already has enough kids and sees no real need to worry about his squishy pouch anymore.

[Dark One]

I would love for them to have a Canon explanation for that but this company is stupid I'm just happy we're getting AJ and Nakamura at all

They could say something like AJ's balls are just that huge that he can't find one to accommodate them

Easiest would be that Styles already has enough kids and sees no real need to worry about his squishy pouch anymore.

Jesus is gonna protect the Jesus Zipper.

[Dark One]

Braun + Finn vs Dolph and Drew? That's... unexpected

[KIRA]

Finn and Braun strowman that is an interesting pair

[slik]

Hands Club is for everyone

[slik]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Baron Corbin: Is He Also “Viktor” of The Ascension? <a href="https://t.co/5qx900eDlB">https://t.co/5qx900eDlB</a></p>&mdash; Kayfabe News (@KayfabeNews) <a href="https://twitter.com/KayfabeNews/status/996191576798867457?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 15, 2018</a></blockquote>
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[slik]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">At this point Bobby Lashley may as well be Brett Hart during his WCW run</p>&mdash; P@ Deadly ☠️⚠️ (@h7pV3p) <a href="https://twitter.com/h7pV3p/status/996189059230982145?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 15, 2018</a></blockquote>
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[Emperor Smeat]

Outside of Bayley, Revival arguably had the worst fall of grace since leaving NXT. They went from being a team people legit considered as one of the best in the world and a dream feud of them vs Young Bucks to now a team of nothing on RAW.

The bad timing of injuries hurt a lot but can legit pinpoint their downfall as potential big stars to when Dawson uttered the forbidden "W" word in a promo.

[KIRA]

All the Revival have to do to the strike Bray Wyatt is remind him that he's behind on child support payments

[Dark One]

Outside of Bayley, Revival arguably had the worst fall of grace since leaving NXT. They went from being a team people legit considered as one of the best in the world and wanting a dream feud against the Bucks to now a team of nothing on RAW.

The timing of injuries hurt a lot but can legit pin point their downfall as potential big stars to when Dawson uttered the forbidden "W" word in a promo.

I think you're overemphasizing the "wrestler" promo thing. They were obviously already being positioned to eat the old guy finishers on Raw25 and hadn't done shit before then.

They came in hot and got a huge win over New Day in their debut, then got injured, and never got another shot. I don't think the main roster has enough emphasis on tag wrestling for them to really shine, either. They really need multi-segment matches for their shtick, and there's basically none of those any more.

If they'd gotten over to SD in the shake-up, there might have been a chance but not for a long while with the Bludgeon Brothers as champs.

[slik]

The never-ending Bayley/Sasha non-feud

[KIRA]

Outside of Bayley, Revival arguably had the worst fall of grace since leaving NXT. They went from being a team people legit considered as one of the best in the world and a dream feud of them vs Young Bucks to now a team of nothing on RAW.

The bad timing of injuries hurt a lot but can legit pinpoint their downfall as potential big stars to when Dawson uttered the forbidden "W" word in a promo.

I don't know what killed Bailey as for the Revival after their bounce with DIY I was like they're going to be huge when they get to the main roster wrong wrong wrong

[slik]

RAW thread cracks pg. 3 for the third hour

[KIRA]

Actually he tried to do it at Elias's expense Bud whatever

[KIRA]

RAW thread cracks pg. 3 for the third hour

Symmetry is the name of the game tonight

[Dark One]

"You know, Renee, when I was in the third grade, my sisters traded me to Billy Winters for a six pound honey bake ham. I had to fight leprechauns for six weeks in a round robin tournament for my freedom. When I got home, my sisters had saved a single slice of ham for me. That's love."

[slik]

I think Money In The Bank surpassed Survivor Series as the 4th biggest show of the year years ago

[slik]

When I posted this part in the RAW Spoilers thread no one believed me, re: Sami/Lashley/Sisters

[DAMN iNATOR]

Crowd DGAF about this promo. Distinctly heard a "Sami Ziggler" chant.

[DAMN iNATOR]

When I posted this part in the RAW Spoilers thread no one believed me, re: Sami/Lashley/Sisters

Because it's utterly surreal.

[Droford]

oh god

[Dark One]

"Renee, when I was a little girl, I wanted to be a 50s paperboy. My sisters have always told me to chase my dreams. So, they threw me into a dryer and turned it on. After they left me in there for thirty minutes, they let me out and told me we'd traveled back in time. They had me convinced until I turned 30."

[KIRA]

"You know, Renee, when I was in the third grade, my sisters traded me to Billy Winters for a six pound honey bake ham. I had to fight leprechauns for six weeks in a round robin tournament for my freedom. When I got home, my sisters had saved a single slice of ham for me. That's love."

"And that was fun Renee but not as much fun at the time my sisters decided if they wanted to be dentists when they grew up they pulled three of my permanent teeth while I was fully conscious with nothing to deaden the pain
I couldn't have asked for a more lovely family"

[Emperor Smeat]

I think you're overemphasizing the "wrestler" promo thing. They were obviously already being positioned to eat the old guy finishers on Raw25 and hadn't done shit before then.

Of course but always found it funny Dawson uttered the word and then the team went back to being nothing afterwards.

WWE didn't even bother to do or build anything meaningful from the promo.

[KIRA]

"Hey Renee I have a fun little story about the time my sister's locked me in a dark Tool Shed with a rabid Doberman you want to hear it?"

[Dark One]

Can't wait for Sami to bring out Lashley's sisters and they're all just midgets dressed like Bobby Lashley with long hair held in place by a headband.

[DAMN iNATOR]

"And that was fun Renee but not as much fun at the time my sisters decided if they wanted to be dentists when they grew up they pulled three of my permanent teeth while I was fully conscious with nothing to deaden the pain
I couldn't have asked for a more lovely family"

"And then there was the time when our parents went on a month-long vacation and would tie me to the wall and took turns kicking me in the balls...that's sisters for ya!"

[KIRA]

"And then there was the time when our parents went on a month-long vacation and would tie me to the wall and took turns kicking me in the balls...that's sisters for ya!"
Hey now this is solely for Bobby Lashley don't start giving Nakamura any ideas

[RP]

This womens 3 way match is so bad, if Tits dont get shown, the crowed might leave.

[RP]

Only thing i take away from this womens 3 way match is that i'll be nutting to Alexa Bliss's new fake titties.

[KIRA]

This womens 3 way match is so bad, if Tits dont get shown, the crowed might leave.
If they can sit through something as boring as soccer they'll be fine.

[Emperor Smeat]

Can't wait for Sami to bring out Lashley's sisters and they're all just midgets dressed like Bobby Lashley with long hair held in place by a headband.

Just don't let Big Cass be in the building when it happens or else he might get the sudden cravings to beat one of them up.

[Dark One]

Oh man.

I though this was the main event but we still have another hour.

#Pray4DarkOne

[RP]

Thank God those new fresh titties are in the MITB match.

[KIRA]

I can't wait till we get Jinder Mahal and Roman Reigns one-on-one because the crowd is guaranteed to set fire to the arena

[Emperor Smeat]

Going to laugh if Alexa Bliss somehow wins the Women's MitB match since it could continue her streak of every PPV match involving the title in some sorts since she got called up.

[Dark One]

I can't wait till we get Jinder Mahal and Roman Reigns one-on-one because the crowd is guaranteed to set fire to the arena

Roman vs Jinder Ironman Match is going to main event MitB

[RP]

I can not imagine a MITB womens match with out the freshest titties in the business.

[slik]

Jinder Mahal is a face now

[Emperor Smeat]

Looks like whoever built that arena really skimped out on materials considering the walls are made out of cardboard. :shifty:

[KIRA]

Roman is a dick

[RP]

I really feel like these assholes are trying to make me cheer for Jinder Mahal lol.

[KIRA]

You know if I were Jinder I'd be pretty angry that I spent so much time in the lower card only to find out that all I had to do to gain Vince McMahon's attention is drink steroids to be catapulted inexplicably into the main event

[Droford]

break down the fake walls

[RP]

Either these clowns are making me cheer Jindar, or they have no fucking clue what booking wrestling is. They have no fucking clue. This is sicking to watch.

[Droford]

Great Kahli for replace Jinder!

[rez]

Damn, first pyro..now can't even find it in the budget to buy convincing drywall.

[Dark One]

Nice to see Braun helping another nine year old win a tag team match.

[KIRA]

It's disgusting hearing the commentators try to cover for Raines instead of calling him out on his cowardly b*******

[RP]

This is so fucking bad. Is Nicholas booking this right now?

[Emperor Smeat]

The hallway Jinder got speared into makes no sense from a design perspective. A random hall with no door or anything but yet has signs pointing people to other areas even though they can't follow it because of a random wall blocking things.

At least when Hawkins got put through a wall, there was an actual room on the other side.

[RP]

Yep. Feed these 2 to Braun. Makes all the sense.

[RP]

Everything is making sense tbh. I'm all in.

[rez]

RAW needs to get cut down to 2 hours and replace it with double the Chrisley

[Dark One]

Saw something interesting last week that Dolph hasn't gotten ANY offense in during these tag matches other than double team moves/assists.

I'd like to pretend that WWE has the storytelling chops to be telling a story about Dolph riding Drew's coattails and not actually contributing anything, but I can't believe that a company booking Roman vs Jinder and writing Bobby Lashley: My 3 Abusive Sisters could pull anything like that off.

[RP]

To be honest, You cant have The Acension have a match with either one of these teams because of..........Science.

[KIRA]

So they knock strowman up from 6 foot 8 to 7 feet tall

[KIRA]

The hallway Jinder got speared into makes no sense from a design perspective. A random hall with no door or anything but yet has signs pointing people to other areas even though they can't follow it because of a random wall blocking things.

At least when Hawkins got put through a wall, there was an actual room on the other side.

And behind the wall is long dark and Hollow

[Dark One]

The last 5-10 seconds of this seems relevant to tonight:

<blockquote class="twitter-video" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">“How are we able to achieve this kind of success? By giving our audience what they want.” <br><br>- Stephanie McMahon at the NBC Upfront today <br><br>( ��: <a href="https://twitter.com/RichBTIG?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@RichBTIG</a>) <a href="https://t.co/v6vVhGaKI6">pic.twitter.com/v6vVhGaKI6</a></p>&mdash; Ryan Satin (@ryansatin) <a href="https://twitter.com/ryansatin/status/996133722297720832?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 14, 2018</a></blockquote>
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[RP]

and................. commercial break


yep. Good way to make me give a shit WWE. LOLz #cancelwwenetwork

[KIRA]

That's one thing Drew does really really well smirk he has the best smirk in the company possibly ever

[KIRA]

The last 5-10 seconds of this seems relevant to tonight:

<blockquote class="twitter-video" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">“How are we able to achieve this kind of success? By giving our audience what they want.” <br><br>- Stephanie McMahon at the NBC Upfront today <br><br>( ��: <a href="https://twitter.com/RichBTIG?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@RichBTIG</a>) <a href="https://t.co/v6vVhGaKI6">pic.twitter.com/v6vVhGaKI6</a></p>&mdash; Ryan Satin (@ryansatin) <a href="https://twitter.com/ryansatin/status/996133722297720832?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 14, 2018</a></blockquote>
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We read your comments we saw you begging us for Mahal versus Roman

[Dark One]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DdHce0GVQAAnfR5.jpg

[RP]

These people have no clue what they are doing.

[Dark One]

lol "GET UP, YOU'RE FINE"

[Droford]

Mcintyre vs Strowman would be a good match I think

[Emperor Smeat]

The last 5-10 seconds of this seems relevant to tonight:

<blockquote class="twitter-video" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">“How are we able to achieve this kind of success? By giving our audience what they want.” <br><br>- Stephanie McMahon at the NBC Upfront today <br><br>( ��: <a href="https://twitter.com/RichBTIG?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@RichBTIG</a>) <a href="https://t.co/v6vVhGaKI6">pic.twitter.com/v6vVhGaKI6</a></p>&mdash; Ryan Satin (@ryansatin) <a href="https://twitter.com/ryansatin/status/996133722297720832?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 14, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Not sure what's worse, that or the time Vince claimed people didn't want to sit through 3+ hour shows when he was dissing the NFL with his XFL revival.

[RP]

I take it back,

I'm enjoying this actually

[RP]

I'm actually enjoying the booking of this match. I have to rewalk what i said back.

[Dark One]

Honestly surprised that with that much speed and momentum, Braun didn't obliterate the ring post, continue plowing through the crowd leaving broken bodies in his wake, burst through several layers of cinder blocks, and then leave a long trench deep into the parking lot.

[RP]

LOL i like it a lot.

[slik]

this crowd is dead, I'm surprised they didn't pipe in cheers

[Dark One]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">WATCH OUT, <a href="https://twitter.com/DMcIntyreWWE?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@DMcIntyreWWE</a>!<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/RAW?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#RAW</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/BraunStrowman?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@BraunStrowman</a> <a href="https://t.co/Xw0hQ86Hch">pic.twitter.com/Xw0hQ86Hch</a></p>&mdash; WWE (@WWE) <a href="https://twitter.com/WWE/status/996219644670193664?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 15, 2018</a></blockquote>
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[Emperor Smeat]

WWE has a really weird fascination with their trophies getting destroyed. First Andre trophy also met a random end after WWE spent weeks hyping it up as a very prestigious thing.

[Droford]

I find this all funny considering WWE could be leaving universal

[slik]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/RAW?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#RAW</a> RIP Greatest Royal Rumble trophy. <a href="https://t.co/NnIwrGYkRM">pic.twitter.com/NnIwrGYkRM</a></p>&mdash; Jeven W. (@5CornersxSmootx) <a href="https://twitter.com/5CornersxSmootx/status/996219453435187200?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 15, 2018</a></blockquote>
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[RP]

Dumbest non Kayfabe thing i've ever seen. Wow. They just dont give a fuck anymore.

[RP]

WWE has literally shit on Kayfabe. Kayfabe no longer exisist

[RP]

LOL Kayfabe has been defeated.. New Era of wrestling I guess.

[Dark One]

"Renee, when I was younger, my sisters used to wake me up by hitting me over the head with a ukulele. Since then any time I see a stringed instrument, I go into a blind rage. I'd like to thank my sisters for giving me an appreciation for the power of music."

[slik]

Dumbest non Kayfabe thing i've ever seen. Wow. They just dont give a fuck anymore.

It makes zero sense

"um, so what's the reason behind the match"?

"Ronda Rousey and Nia Jax love to have fun!!!!!"

[RP]

It makes zero sense

"um, so what's the reason behind the match"?

"Ronda Rousey and Nia Jax love to have fun!!!!!"

They are literally telling the fans they are done with Kayfabe. It's over. Watch everyone of these Youtube channels and dirtsheets flip.

It's done. That Ronda vs Nia was the end of it all. It's done.

[BigCrippyZ]

WWE has literally shit on Kayfabe. Kayfabe no longer exisist

It's been dead for over a decade now. They've just kept digging a deeper and deeper grave for it at this point.

[RP]

It's been dead for over a decade now. They've just kept digging a deeper and deeper grave for it at this point.

True, but they havent buried it as badly as tonight.

[slik]

"How many chances does a guy get"

I don't know Cole, when are we subjected to Roman vs Brock again?

[Droford]

Want Elias to win. Money in the Guitarcase

[KIRA]

/Roman Reigns lost how many times to Brock Lesnar but he keeps getting back in line for a title shot they are hypocrites

#WWESTUPIDLOGIC

[Dark One]

"How many chances does a guy get"

I don't know Cole, when are we subjected to Roman vs Brock again?

"It's the commentary the eight days after Backlash where the commentary says things they normally wouldn't!"

[Emperor Smeat]

Very rude of WWE to deny the UK crowd the chance to hear a masterpiece song tonight.

[RP]

Someone might make this thread. Give me credit.


WWE making a strong play on NBC. They are forgoing Kayfabe just to get on NBC.

[Dark One]

"Sticks and stones may break your bones, Renee, but sisters will staple your tongue to your face."

[Emperor Smeat]

:lol: at Elias trying to do a mid-match musical performance.

[Droford]

lol KO won with a frogsplash

[slik]

"There's no disqualifications in triple threat matches"

What?

[KIRA]

It's already a lot to ask of the Arena full of people that sit for 3 hours to watch a show thats mediocre but then you keep threatening a 4th hour by the time 10 rolls around

[KIRA]

I really can't stand them chastising Kevin Owens for the very same thing Roman Reigns keeps doing

[BigCrippyZ]

I really can't stand them for doing the very same thing they keep doing

which is why I don't watch the current shit show that they try to pass off as entertainment.

[slik]

BigCrippyZ has CENA NUFF of The Roman Empire

[Tom Guycott]

"It's the Raw after Sunday, where the crowd boos who they normally cheer and cheer who they normally boo!"

Remember the good ol' days when that bit was reserved for Canadian heels in Canada and any babyfaces against them getting boo'd out of the Great White North, and not some excuse to rewrite their own narratives?

[Tom Guycott]

So with the team name "The B-Team" Axel and Dallas are Raw's mascots now, right?

If they had a third guy, could have had each guy wear a letter as a costume to form the RAW logo

And if they get a 4th person, they could recreate Jingleheimer Junction. Quick, who would make a great Mr. F.???

[Tom Guycott]

I do not understand why Rhino is not selling his weight loss regimen he can make a killing

Because he puts it right back on two segments later when he tags with Heath. Too much of a yo-yo diet.

[Tom Guycott]

Outside of Bayley, Revival arguably had the worst fall of grace since leaving NXT. They went from being a team people legit considered as one of the best in the world and a dream feud of them vs Young Bucks to now a team of nothing on RAW.

The bad timing of injuries hurt a lot but can legit pinpoint their downfall as potential big stars to when Dawson uttered the forbidden "W" word in a promo.

I still think Ascension was worse. They went from being the be-all, end-all tag team in NXT to squashing a few jobbers, then just getting squashed by anyone with a name including a host of inactive "legend" teams to the point where they were just killed dead. They were the proto-AOP or Bludgeon Bros, and they got turned into a joke in short order like most other call ups.

[Tom Guycott]

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I always find Braun sprinting kinda hilarious. It looks less terrifying than it does comical, and sounds like it should have some cartoon "patter and whistle" sound effects.

[Tom Guycott]

I really can't stand them chastising Kevin Owens for the very same thing Roman Reigns keeps doing

I really can't stand them for doing the very same thing they keep doing

which is why I don't watch the current shit show that they try to pass off as entertainment.

BigCrippyZ has CENA NUFF of The Roman Empire

We all have.

I'm so glad I just went through this thread instead of looking up watching the show.

[DAMN iNATOR]

"There's no disqualifications in triple threat matches"

What?

Its literally always been that way unless stipulated otherwise.

[Mr. Nerfect]

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God, he fucking sucks so much. I used to think it was just the disproportionate fandom around him that bothered me, but no -- I think it is actually him.

[Cool King]

• Ronda/Nia Video

• I don't really get what the idea is behind Reigns at the moment. What are Vince & Co. trying to achieve by having Reigns be the way he's been recently?

To me, he's coming across as just being a whiny bitch.

Then him attacking Mahal didn't really help him, as it only made him look worse.

He's suppose to be a face but yet he's constantly complaining about how things aren't going his way, telling us all how things should be (which always involve him getting what he wants) and attacking guys backstage. That's what a heel does.

How are we supposed to like this guy?

If he was a heel however, it wouldn't be so bad but it would still be bad. I think Roman Reigns as reached the point where he's now just a complete lost cause.

He's never going to get people to like him and he's never really going to get people to dislike him. He'll always legitimately suck in the eyes of the fans and he'll never be able to do anything good or bad without receiving legitimate boos.

He's 100% damaged goods.

I don't really blame the man himself, although having much better mic skills would have really helped him now but it's mostly the way he's been presented and booked.

I think if Reigns is to be saved, then it would call for drastic measures.

Take Reigns off TV for a good long while (at least a year) and have him return suddenly, attacking the top face (if he returns as a heel) or top heel (if he returns as a face) and give him a new theme, new moves and new attire and maybe even shorten his name to just "Reigns", as Vince likes to deprive wrestlers of their first names after a while.

It would pretty much be a clean slate for Reigns and if that still didn't work, then the man is well and truly screwed, but we all know that Vince taking Reigns off TV for a long period of time will never happen.

• Ronda/Nia Video

• I like the name "The B-Team" for Axel & Dallas and with the story behind the name, it's perfect for them.

Now all they have to do is become champions (which I think they will) and I'll be happy.

• Is Corbin losing yet more hair?

He was practically bald a some points during the match. The only reason I noticed it was because his scalp is so white.

• Owens going down the "give me what I want or I'm telling mommy on you" route.

The fact that it worked just made Angle look stupid and a bit obsolete.

• I look forward to buying one of those "B Shirts" from WWEShop in the future.

I've always like Axel and I like this team of him and Dallas. I can actually see them winning the titles in the future.

I'm also intrigued about "Breezango Live Tweets The Royal Wedding".

• I still don't get this team of Ziggler & McIntyre. They say the locker room isn't the same as it was back in the day, as they had legends in their locker room, whereas now they don't and how today's locker room has choreographed entrances (which I thought was great coming from the man who calls himself "The Show-Off").

So in a nutshell, they don't like the current roster because it's different from when they were last a part of it together.

It's like Vince & Co. have seen old "Attitude Era Fans" complain about the current product and how they always say "The Attitude Era was the best! The wrestlers now suck!" and "Bring back The Attitude Era!" and turned it into a gimmick and gave it to Ziggler & McIntyre, for some reason.

Also, it's probably just me but McIntyre's promos have really gotten worse since the last time he was on the main roster.

• I actually find Sami Zayn to be legitimately annoying.

• The whole "Reigns spearing Mahal through a wall" thing would have worked perfectly if they didn't show the signs that were on the wall behind the fake wall.

• That record scratch noise from Ziggler's theme seems to get worse every time I hear it.

They need to just get rid of it already.

• Ronda/Nia Video

• I can actually see Owens winning the MITB ladder match.

I know it's very early days but giving Owens a briefcase as a prop for about a year seems like something Vince & Co. would do and I can already see Owens with it on Raw and attempting to cash it in pretty much every chance he gets and then deciding not to at the very last second and coming up with an excuse each time, which most people would find funny.

[Cool King]

God, he fucking sucks so much. I used to think it was just the disproportionate fandom around him that bothered me, but no -- I think it is actually him.

I used to be quite interested in Strowman and I liked pretty much everything about him when he first went solo as a heel, although the "flipping shit over" shtick got kinda old, fast.

But now, I don't really have much interest in him as he's pretty much turned into this "cookie-cutter big good guy". I feel that he's only a few smiles and high-fives away from dancing in the ring.

He's going the way the majority of big imposing guys in the WWE have went:

• Big Bastard of a man is destructive as hell and nobody can stop him.

• Big Bastard of a man is a bad dude and not even all these good guys can stop him.

• Big Bastard of a man shows a more human side to him.

• Big Bastard of a man is now a good guy. Bad guys beware!

• Everyone loves this Big Bastard of a man, he now smiles more and interacts with the fans.

• Big Bastard of a man has a humourous side. Look how funny he is!

• Big Bastard of a man sure can dance!

• We all love this Big Bastard of a man. He's funny, he's strong, he beats up bad guys and he smiles all the time too!

[Mr. Nerfect]

I just don't the fascination with him. He sucked when he showed up and looked like a giant Eugene. He has surely gotten a little better and now has a better haircut, but he's over because they paid a bunch of geeks to get tossed around by him. You could have literally done the same thing with Nailz back in the day. It takes very little actual talent.

And that lack of talent has been exposed time and time again. When he worked solo against Brock, he fucked up basic spots. I can't remember the exact video, but Brock was basically trying to get him to do something, and Braun was just lying there like a fucking buffoon because he's got no clue what he is doing because he's not a very good wrestler, haha. Then there's the incident in the Triple Threat where Braun fucked up the knee, so Brock tattooed him with a punch in the side of his fucking head. Then there was that time that he was no-selling in the Rumble against Brock, so Brock was like "Fuck you, buddy" and legitimately knocked the piss out of him to send him to the mat. They're just the Brock ones.

He's gotten more over because of the anti-Roman sentiments. People are being force-fed the top guy, so they will take anyone over him. Anyone. But Braun is worse than Reigns. I don't know how you can argue that he's not. He is a worse wrestler, he's clumsier, he's got less of an idea about where to be and when to be there, and he's basically a big goof. But because he's not Roman and he tossed those idiots around: "Yaaaaaay!"

They could call up Lars Sullivan next week, have him do the same thing, and I guarantee that he is as over, if not more over, than Braun within a few months. Because there is nothing intangible about Braun that has led him to the position he is in. This is the sort of talentless big man people used to whinge about back in the day. He's Heidenreich with good booking, or Snitsky pushed as a babyface in a world where he can't punt babies.

Argh, he fucks up running and his fucking shoulder tackle. But yaaaaay -- not Roman. Yaaaaay he did funny corny shit with The Miz. It's staged and fake and everybody is scared of him, and when he's not around everyone asks "Where's B-B-B-B-Braun...?" because everyone is scared of him. Yaaaaaay. These are the fucking dark days, I swear to god.

And if I have to hear about how over he apparently is one more time... Every single Raw or PPV I have checked out he has gotten a mild reaction. Generally cheers. Not an ovation; not a roar from the crowd -- but golf claps with a few nerds standing up and stretching up their arms. It's tepid. I'm sure it is better than most people get these days, but a barely audible "Get these hands!" chant from a couple of hundred neckbeards isn't that fucking over. You could have a random dude go out there and say "I'm Johnny Lovecakes and I hate WWE" and do a wacky dance and it would get a bigger pop. Yes, I know that generally even the people who pay money to go to these things are quieter than they used to be, but I feel that is a self-defeating excuse. If people genuinely cared they would be more engaged.

He's not the worst thing ever, and to whatever fan-base you have let, he's a hero, even if it is a minor one that is never going to draw any money. But it just sucks because the love for him is a symptom of where we are. That people are impressed by a big dude with a grizzly voice and a beard that is presented as comedy and can't run properly and fucks up all the time because he's not officially the top guy...yikes. I just don't understand it. How can people want to see this guy as the champion working in 20-minute matches and cutting long promos about how much he appreciates fans, gay people, women and anti-bullying movements?