CM Punk/Colt Cabana - The jury has reached a verdict

[slik]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Court finds in favor of Punk &amp; Cabana on all charges.</p>&mdash; Ross W Berman IV (@RossWBermanIV) <a href="https://twitter.com/RossWBermanIV/status/1004103733058457601?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 5, 2018</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The jury finds in favor of CM Punk (Philip Jack Brooks) and Colt Cabana (Scott Colton) on all counts filed by Dr. Chris Amann. Neither will have to pay anything.</p>&mdash; Nick Hausman (@WZRebel) <a href="https://twitter.com/WZRebel/status/1004103548701986818?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 5, 2018</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Cabana looks very relieved. Punk &amp; AJ are currently in a tight embrace and crying. Amann is staring off blankly.</p>&mdash; Nick Hausman (@WZRebel) <a href="https://twitter.com/WZRebel/status/1004104023165857801?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 5, 2018</a></blockquote>
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[Cool King]

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[SlickyTrickyDamon]

PUNK WINS! PUNK WINS! PUNK WINS!

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Hausman went above and beyond for coverage of the trial. Kudos to him. Also Punk has another fight of his life on Saturday.

[Emperor Smeat]

The first day or two of the trial pretty much doomed Amann's chances of winning. Nothing that got revealed from Cabana or Punk's side of the trial was as comparable to Amann possibly violating medical rules and laws as a doctor in the WWE.

[Evil Vito]

I suffered nothing except for Twitter trolling.
Also I want $4 million in damages.

[Ultra Mantis]

Hope somebody gives Amann a Z-Pack to fix his broken bank balance.

[Evil Vito]

Punk and Cabana aren’t out of the woods yet, 50/50 booking says Dr. Amann wins the retrial. 

[Dark One]

Mike Litoris is the true breakout star of this trial.

I expect him to be jobbing on Main Event by September.

[Bad News Gertner]

The only win Punk will have all week

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

He may have a chance based on the fact he is fighting a tomato can.

And by chance I mean he could escape the first round.

[xrodmuc316]

This was petty WWE B.S. from the start. The fact that they went after Colt too just proves it.

Hopefully Amann, or more likely WWE since they clearly bankrolled and pushed this thing, have to pay restitution of all of Punk's and Colt's Legal Fees.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Where's Destor? I thought Punk was supposed to lose!

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

This was petty WWE B.S. from the start. The fact that they went after Colt too just proves it.

Hopefully Amann, or more likely WWE since they clearly bankrolled and pushed this thing, have to pay restitution of all of Punk's and Colt's Legal Fees.

I don't think so. He had a reason to sue just didn't do a good job in making his case. You can only get court costs back in specific instances where it was clear that it was a case without merit.

I'd be a little bit shocked if they did that. Loser pays does not exist for a large part of America because of freedom of speech.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

I can understand why Amann sued. I'm sure in his mind he was right, and Punk raked his reputation over the coals.

[Innovator]

Podcasting would've been fucked if they found for Amann

[BigCrippyZ]

Podcasting would've been fucked if they found for Amann

How so?

It seems like it wouldn't have been any different than any other broadcasting or publication formats in which defamation occurs and has occurred throughout history. Defamation has been alleged and successfully claimed countless times through publication via print, radio, television, oral speech, on the internet, etc. None of those formats have been fucked by successful or mere allegations of defamation claims.

Defamation is defamation, regardless of the format it occurs in. It has never had any impact on silencing or harming any industry or format as a whole. It's only impacted individual people or companies after they engaged in defamation by publishing a false statement of fact about others that harms their reputation.

[xrodmuc316]

How so?

It seems like it wouldn't have been any different than any other broadcasting or publication formats in which defamation occurs and has occurred throughout history. Defamation has been alleged and successfully claimed countless times through publication via print, radio, television, oral speech, on the internet, etc. None of those formats have been fucked by successful or mere allegations of defamation claims.

Defamation is defamation, regardless of the format it occurs in. It has never had any impact on silencing or harming any industry or format as a whole. It's only impacted individual people or companies after they engaged in defamation by publishing a false statement of fact about others that harms their reputation.

Because the guy doing the interview should be protected against what his guest says. Had Amann just sued Punk it would have been a standard case.

If every podcaster had to worry they might get sued for something their guest may say or imply, nobody would want to take that chance, or at the very least only book boring guests.

If they ruled in favor of Amann, assuming the cost were down the middle, Colt could have owed in excess of $2 million.

That is why there are always disclosures stating that the views of the individual performer may not represent the views of the company, because greedy people try to sue people not responsible from time to time.

And no, Amann did not suffer at all. Kept his job, lost no reputation, etc. His biggest beef was wrestling fans taunting him and writing stuff on Twitter.

By that logic Roman Reigns could sue WWE because they booked him so badly that he gets booed and shitposted about on Twitter, and on TPWW!

Wait until your post from December 17th, 2015 is entered into evidence in that trial, then maybe you will see the absurdity.

Agreed. Ambrose is way more naturally charismatic, a much better actor and seems to be able to cut a much better promo than almost all of the roster, especially Reigns.

[KIRA]

Can that momentum carry CM Punk into this weekend?

[Jordan]

I hope so, I won't be able to take him seriously as a wrestler if he gets squashed again in the Octagon.

[xrodmuc316]

I hope so, I won't be able to take him seriously as a wrestler if he gets squashed again in the Octagon.

Batista got his one MMA win and that was enough for him to be satisfied he accomplished his dream of being an MMA fighter, and moved on.

However if Punk wins, he will surely get another UFC fight, and the $1 million or so that he would make wouldn't be something he would pass up.

If he loses and tries to crawl back to wrestling with his tail tucked as a failure, he certainly won't be viewed in the same glowing light he was in 2014.

[Ezra]

Disagree. Punk can get stomped this weekend, show up at all in, hit a gts on cody and everyone will cream themselves.

[#1-norm-fan]

Definitely. That one night, people would go nuts. Long-term though...

[KIRA]

Unless he made a massive Improvement I have a feeling he's going to be using that newly-won money to pay off his medical bills

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Again, the guy Punk is fighting is fucking garbage--so it's actually a good matchup for him. I'm not saying he's going to win, but this is no Mickey Gall who is an actual professional fighter. This guy is the equivalent to Homer fighting boxcar fred. He may be hungry, but he's fighting for a sandwich.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Unless he made a massive Improvement I have a feeling he's going to be using that newly-won money to pay off his medical bills

He didn't win any money, he just wasn't successfully sued.

[slik]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">After saying yesterday that an offer hasn't come along yet, CM Punk is emphatic about his pro wrestling future: &quot;I'm done, I'm done, I'm done with professional wrestling&quot; <a href="https://t.co/xKnW56XHSU">pic.twitter.com/xKnW56XHSU</a></p>&mdash; Aaron Bronsteter (@aaronbronsteter) <a href="https://twitter.com/aaronbronsteter/status/1004762588624891904?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 7, 2018</a></blockquote>
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[KIRA]

He didn't win any money, he just wasn't successfully sued.
Oops my bad still I hope he finds comfort in that win while he's taking a beating.

[Emperor Smeat]

Seems WWE's doc is in more hot water after more court documents from the case were made public.

Besides possibly violating medical ethics with the way he prescribed medicine and treated patients, WWE's doc was also dating wrestlers who were his patients which is another big ethics violation.

Also seems WWE wasn't aware of this beforehand and started their own investigation on the doctor.

https://deadspin.com/court-records-wwe-doctor-who-sued-cm-punk-had-sexual-r-1826818551

[Bad News Gertner]

Bix is tremendous. Definitely check out his Between the Sheets podcast with Kris Zellner if you haven't. Best wrestling podcast around.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Seems WWE's doc is in more hot water after more court documents from the case were made public.

Besides possibly violating medical ethics with the way he prescribed medicine and treated patients, WWE's doc was also dating wrestlers who were his patients which is another big ethics violation.

Also seems WWE wasn't aware of this beforehand and started their own investigation on the doctor.

https://deadspin.com/court-records-wwe-doctor-who-sued-cm-punk-had-sexual-r-1826818551

Will be hilarious of this lawsuit horrifically backfires on this fuckwit.

[LibSuperstar]

Bix is tremendous. Definitely check out his Between the Sheets podcast with Kris Zellner if you haven't. Best wrestling podcast around.

A good time travel to see what was going on in the world of wrestling year by year.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Well, he might have some "damages" to complain about now. Too bad for him the trial is over.

:lol:

[BigCrippyZ]

More like he wouldn't have a valid legal claim upon which a court could grant relief.

Certainly not for defamation, emotional distress, invasion of privacy, or public disclosure of private facts. They're apparently true statements made in part in pursuit of a legal proceeding about facts that were not kept private (their co-workers apparently knew) and the Dr. even admitted to their truthfulness under oath.

A 12(b)(6) motion would almost definitely easily kill any suit based on some claim re: this info coming out.

[Bad News Gertner]

A good time travel to see what was going on in the world of wrestling year by year.

I've listened to all 151 episodes at least twice. Even the 6 and a half hour long ones like this past week.