Big Cass Released

[Innovator]

https://www.wwe.com/article/big-cass-released?sf192147381=1



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WWE has come to terms on the release of William Morrissey (Big Cass).

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

YAY

[Destor]

I understand he's was never going to be a top guy but surely he can be useful in other ways...

[Destor]

maybe he and enzo will rap together now

[Innovator]

He was tall and orange. Had everything going for him.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

There was probably a reason for letting him go?

[Bad News Gertner]

There has to be. They never give up on guys his size so quick.

[xrodmuc316]

Wow, surprised by this. They could have sent him back to NXT for a singles run, see if he could have improved some.

Probably goes back to him beating up that little person after they told him not to.

[Big Vic]

There was probably a reason for letting him go?

Probably for going off script on SDL after Vince told him not to.

[Sixx]

He has a moron face.

[Dark One]

Not even a "best of luck in his future endeavors"

Must have also lost control of his consensual penis.

[Simple Fan]

Wow, didn't see that coming. Guy really needed more development as a singles competitor. Hopefully he signs with Impact, ROH, or NJPW and gets that development. Hell just being less scripted could help him out slot I think.

[Destor]

He will not fare well on the indies. Not flippy or snug.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

He's just not all that athletic tbh

[Innovator]

He will not fare well on the indies. Not flippy or snug.

He can bodyslam and walk around with his fist in the air like he don't care.

[Evil Vito]

Welp that experiment sure was a flop

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Welp that experiment sure was a flop

as floppy as his gyno tits.

[Destor]

He's just not all that athletic tbh

yeah like a tall CM Punk

[Evil Vito]

Whoever programmed the Big Cass edit in my Fire Pro game made Cass overpowered as fuck. Motherfucker won the WWE G1 tourney I held, including a knockout victory over Brock.

[Sixx]

yeah like a tall CM Punk

He should go to UFC, too!

[Sepholio]

WTF. Amazing to me that he was unceremoniously released less than 48 hours after a match with DBry. Something must have happened.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

I think it was fucking stupid he was even feuding with Bryan in the first place. Totally unearned and they seemed to have plans to put him over until he went off script.

[Sepholio]

I must have missed when he went off script. Whats that all about?

[Innovator]

At least he got the heel hook over

[Innovator]

I must have missed when he went off script. Whats that all about?

The midget thing. He was told to boot him and that's it. He asked everyone from agents to Vince himself if he could attack him more than everyone said no. Then he did it anyway.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

At least he got the heel hook over

that's true.

[Sepholio]

Is it the beatdown of the mini-Bryan? Edit: Nvm already answered, thanks Inno.

[Ruien]

Damn. He would have been a really good mid card talent to have.

[Sepholio]

Damn. He would have been a really good mid card talent to have.

Absolutely agree. His size alone makes him valuable enough to give people the rub on an as-needed basis. At least for a while anyways.

[Big Vic]

They should have jobbed him more on the way out, could have gotten Rusev/Big E/Tye over.

Maybe he asked for it?

[slik]

They didn't even wish him well in his future endeavors.

[Sixx]

They didn't even wish him well in his future endeavors.

Yes, it was already mentioned here.

Thank you.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

We wish Slik well in his future endeavours.

[xrodmuc316]

With Cass gone and Elsworth back, he has the clear path to see about Mellas bed =)

[Innovator]

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/289/680/b23.jpg

[Evil Vito]

Apparently Vince called a meeting at SmackDown and fired him in front of everyone

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

HAHAHAHA

omg.

This:

https://assets.imksb.net/sites/13/2018/03/7.-Vince-McMahon.jpg

But at a business meeting. I can't. :lol:

[Jordan]

Wow, shocking. I'm glad though, he sucks.

[Black Widow]

Mella is Michaels.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Hey Black Widow.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Fuck you.

[slik]

Apparently Vince called a meeting at SmackDown and fired him in front of everyone

Attitude Era Vince is back baybay

[KIRA]

With Cass gone and Elsworth back, he has the clear path to see about Mellas bed =)

I'm not saying for the purposes of sleeping with each other but they do seem to really like being around each other and fact she's the one that requested to work with him and apparently after he got released they talked all the time so she must be really happy to have him back.

[Destor]

How was the danielson match?

[slik]

Best match of Cass's career

[Emperor Smeat]

Something had to have happened very recently in order for him to get fired.

Considering some of the stuff done on tv in recent months, couldn't have just been the midget incident or else Vince would have pulled the plug on his push and his job a lot sooner.

Supposedly him and Enzo were the two most despised people backstage for various reasons but even that didn't really affect their status on tv.

[Dark One]

Apparently Vince called a meeting at SmackDown and fired him in front of everyone

Amazing.

I NEED THE STORY NOW

DID HE SAY CM PUNK WAS RIGHT? DID HE SHOUT CONSENSUAL PENIS? DID HE SNEEZE?

[slik]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">My name Vince McMahon, and I am a certified g-netic jackhammer &amp; the bona-fide boss...and you can't teach that.<br><br>And this right here is William Morrissey, and he is 7 feet tall...and fired. <br><br>Badaboom, future endeavors outside this room!<br><br>How you doin?</p>&mdash; Tommaso The Tank Engine (@JaimsVanDerBeek) <a href="https://twitter.com/JaimsVanDerBeek/status/1009178245533609984?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 19, 2018</a></blockquote>
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[slik]

'Tommaso The Tank Engine'

:rofl:

[KIRA]

"HOW YOU DOIN"
Not well G not well.

How long till we see big....Morrisy in the IMPACT Zone?

[ClockShot]

Came back from his injury, got put into a stupid feud with Daniel Bryan, and gone after it wrapped up.

Whatever.

[Big Vic]

"What is 'Large Ass' doing in the ImpactZone!?"

[erickman]

he would be a good pick up for the indys I just hope he does not get back with enzo. I bet he goes to japan.

[GD]

It's always sad to see someone lose their job. I guess he did something significant enough to be fired by the boss in front of everyone.

[GD]

Something had to have happened very recently in order for him to get fired.

Considering some of the stuff done on tv in recent months, couldn't have just been the midget incident or else Vince would have pulled the plug on his push and his job a lot sooner.

Supposedly him and Enzo were the two most despised people backstage for various reasons but even that didn't really affect their status on tv.

According to the dirtsheets, Cass had "backstage heat" for his pro-Trump views.

[Sixx]

What "midget thing"?

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

lol he beat up a midget more than he was supposed to

[GD]

What "midget thing"?

He wasn't suppose to beat up the little person portraying "mini Daniel Bryan".

[Sixx]

When did he do that?

[Emperor Smeat]

According to the Observer, Cass did something that warranted a new punishment coming his way prior to Vince deciding to fire him instead.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I knew more punishment was coming, didn't know he was being released. <a href="https://t.co/SCAz8AVEUf">https://t.co/SCAz8AVEUf</a></p>&mdash; Dave Meltzer (@davemeltzerWON) <a href="https://twitter.com/davemeltzerWON/status/1009155678743621632?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 19, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Meltzer also debunked rumors of his release being just some roster cleaning like with Zeda and one of the Ealy Bros.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This was not a planned part of many releases. It is what everyone thinks it is. <a href="https://t.co/L5ZVEyC1i6">https://t.co/L5ZVEyC1i6</a></p>&mdash; Dave Meltzer (@davemeltzerWON) <a href="https://twitter.com/davemeltzerWON/status/1009166547632324608?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 19, 2018</a></blockquote>
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[SlickyTrickyDamon]

He wasn't suppose to beat up the little person portraying "mini Daniel Bryan".

He went too far in it. He was supposed to just do the big boot and pose. He went too far in it and it wasn't what Vince wanted.

[slik]

I wouldn't be surprised if it was something as silly as him complaining about booking that was 'the final straw'.

Meltz has hinted before Cass complains Daniel Bryan is a bad worker a lot.

[Bad News Gertner]

First Ryback now Big Cass. This stupid company just destroys and buries anyone with potential while these little 5"10 200 midgets get pushed like Nakamura and Balor who nobody cares about.

[GD]

When did he do that?

On an edition of Smackdown prior to his PPV match against Daniel Bryan.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

First Ryback now Big Cass. This stupid company just destroys and buries anyone with potential while these little 5"10 200 midgets get pushed like Nakamura and Balor who nobody cares about.

Hmm... I dunno I think there are bigger big men than those 2 out there. Actually Ryback coulda been something but he was a bit limited and wooden, no?

[Bad News Gertner]

He was limited by the WWE having him lose 100 ppv matches in a row.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

He was limited by the WWE having him lose 100 ppv matches in a row.

I mean Daniel Bryan got over after losing about the same. Impressive since he's a midget.

But I get what you're saying. Just think they need to find more Brody/Hansen types and less clunky gyno-tit types or wooden bodybuilders.

[slik]

Ryback could have Braun's spot if he was still there.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Nah Braun is way larger than life than Ryback. Ryback was kind of short himself (for a 'big man' that is)

[#1-norm-fan]

Ryback might be the biggest dropped ball in WWE history.

[erickman]

so does he have to wait 90 days or can he show up at all in.

[Destor]

Ryback was awful and never could have held the ball. Good presence but cant work

[#1-norm-fan]

Cass is like... 476th on the list.

[Destor]

so does he have to wait 90 days or can he show up at all in.

Non compete is typically is for televised events

[Destor]

Ryback was awful and never could have held the ball. Good presence but cant work

And an awful promo

[#1-norm-fan]

Ryback was awful and never could have held the ball. Good presence but cant work

He could work fine. It's not like he was the kind of guy you needed to go out there and work 30 minute mat classics for the internet to cream themselves over. He was an asskicker and it worked until just after the Hell in a Cell match with Punk when they forgot why he got over.

[erickman]

cass can be the 7 foot tall bullet club bear at all in

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Destor kind of voicing my feelings. I definitely "liked" him but he just seemed to be missing something, even before he turned into a jobber.

[#1-norm-fan]

That reaction he got when he got his hands on Punk is still one of my favorite Raw moments in forever. It was like jumping into a fucking time machine for one night to when wrestling was white hot.

[slik]

Ryback would have beaten Lesnar by now.

[#1-norm-fan]

Ryback would have beaten Lesnar by now.

That was my dream match for the WrestleMania the year after Ryback got hot.

Instead they went with Ryback jobbing clean to Mark Henry and Triple H getting his win back against Lesnar. Ridiculous.

[mike adamle]

Maybe he got released after the big boot he gave Daniel Bryan. Honestly I haven't really been watching the weekly tv, has Bryan been taking head bumps?

[Savio]

Perhaps Cass didn't want to Job in the gauntlet match and Vince blew his stack.

[Shisen Kopf]

First Ryback now Big Cass. This stupid company just destroys and buries anyone with potential while these little 5"10 200 midgets get pushed like Nakamura and Balor who nobody cares about.

Exactly this. WWE had gold with THE RYBACK but they had to let that no talent, straight edge pussy, CM Punk go over. Now they let a decent rassler go bc he beat up a midget? Thats funny. Everything is too PC nowdays. They'd probably fire JBL now days bc he made anti immigrant videos and now everyone hss gone soft. WWE pushes idiots like Balor, Bobby (only over bc of his dumb theme song) Roode, and the Super Vegan soyboy. UGH!

[xrodmuc316]

First Ryback now Big Cass. This stupid company just destroys and buries anyone with potential while these little 5"10 200 midgets get pushed like Nakamura and Balor who nobody cares about.

Shinsuke is like 6'2 or 6'3. He is a head taller than AJ.

I get your argument, but Nakamura isn't small.

[Shisen Kopf]

Shinsuke is like 6'2 or 6'3. He is a head taller than AJ.

I get your argument, but Nakamura isn't small.

He acts retarded though. As they would say in United Englandshire, "he's the king of MONG style"

[Destor]

Maybe he got released after the big boot he gave Daniel Bryan. Honestly I haven't really been watching the weekly tv, has Bryan been taking head bumps?

There was no medical reason for his forced retirement. Half a dozen doctors have confirmed this

[Shisen Kopf]

Daniel Bryan should have stayed retired. He's only over bc of the YES chants and bc of Kane getting him over. And their therapist. Mainly him.

[xrodmuc316]

He acts retarded though. As they would say in United Englandshire, "he's the king of MONG style"

HAHAHA, best wrestler nickname ever!

[Savio]

He didn't get fired for his Trump views...... Vince loves trump.

[Outsider]

He was the less talented half of a tag team which included Enzo Amore.

He will not be missed.

[erickman]

He didn't get fired for his Trump views...... Vince loves trump.

well since vinces wife is in the cabinet his trumps views probly saved him so long.

[Tom Guycott]

Farewell, Jackson Andrews II

[Jordan]

I wonder if Vince realized he already had a "Big E" and was like "What the hell do we need two BIG guys for?!"

[Tom Guycott]

well since vinces wife is in the cabinet his trumps views probly saved him so long.

On the contrary- maybe he namedropped her or something. Mentioning Linda is verboten ever since she has become serious-pants politician. Abraham Washington mentioned her in a tweet, and he was canned immediately for exactly that reason.

[Tom Guycott]

I wonder if Vince realized he already had a "Big E" and was like "What the hell do we need two BIG guys for?!"

Welp, here comes the Dijak call-up.

[Jordan]

Welp, here comes the Dijak call-up.

How is he?

[Tom Guycott]

Also: RIP "Big ass" titantron and generic fucking theme

[erickman]

On the contrary- maybe he namedropped her or something. Mentioning Linda is verboten ever since she has become serious-pants politician. Abraham Washington mentioned her in a tweet, and he was canned immediately for exactly that reason.

yeah that could be vince was pissed at something today

[Tom Guycott]

How is he?

Tall.

[Tom Guycott]

Real answer: meh. He has potential, but pretty much "tall" is what he has going for him. Seems kinda lanky and uncoordinated. I wasn't to impressed with him in ROH, but he wasn't exactly the drizzling shits, either. Just kinda meh. In his 911-esque role, he was serviceable, and wasn't really overexposed like, say, a certain Constable...

[Jordan]

Okay, so it goes.

[#1-norm-fan]

Real answer: meh. He has potential, but pretty much "tall" is what he has going for him. Seems kinda lanky and uncoordinated. I wasn't to impressed with him in ROH, but he wasn't exactly the drizzling shits, either. Just kinda meh. In his 911-esque role, he was serviceable, and wasn't really overexposed like, say, a certain Constable...

Cass was in ROH? What??

[Vastardikai]

"He wasn't necessarily huge, but he made a lot of guys around him look small" -Jim Cornette on Dan Spivey, but it certainly applies to Cass.

[Simple Fan]

Cass was in ROH? What??

No Dijak.

[Simple Fan]

Also Ryback was awful.

[Helmsphere]

I wouldn't say Ryback was awful. I enjoyed many of his matches and I wouldn't say his last match against Kalisto was all Kalisto considering he botches almost as much as Sin Cara

[#1-norm-fan]

The quality of his matches were secondary for me. It could be worked around. His presence and general badassery is something missing in wrestling nowadays and he was getting massively over before they fucked him over with monumentally bad booking.

[Simple Fan]

Ryback ruined Curtis Axel so he's awful.

[Simple Fan]

CM Punk is probably more to blame though, he's double awful.

[Helmsphere]

I loved RyBaxel

[#1-norm-fan]

Ryback ruined Curtis Axel so he's awful.

lol Curtis Axel having nothing going for him that makes a good wrestler or "sports entertainer" ruined Curtis Axel.

Rybaxel was the best he's ever been.

[#1-norm-fan]

Actually, that "Genesis of the age of McGullicutty" promo was probably the best Axel has ever been.

[Simple Fan]

Axel is a solid wrestler and if his time as the comedy act hasn't proven he can be a "sports entertainer" I don't know what will. Solid IC champ mid card guy. Ryback always had a ceiling and didnt even reach it, given that was more WWEs fault than his.

[Simple Fan]

Ryback also looked like a hunchback which I never got past. Hunchback should have been his name.

[Emperor Smeat]

Based on some rumors going around the net, seems his firing might have been due to his bad rep of being very tough/stubborn to work with and WWE simply not liking his work output as a singles star.

They gave him the Bryan feud thinking Bryan's rep of being great working with anyone would provide the motivation and change needed for Cass. Instead the opposite happen and got pissed off to the point it was easier to just get rid of him.

[Anybody Thrilla]

On the contrary- maybe he namedropped her or something. Mentioning Linda is verboten ever since she has become serious-pants politician. Abraham Washington mentioned her in a tweet, and he was canned immediately for exactly that reason.

I thought Washington was fired for saying live on Raw (that I was at) something about the PTP's opponents being in more trouble than a white girl in Kobe Bryant's locker room or something.

Also, Dijak is way better than Cass. I'd love for him to get his push. He might want to learn to promo first, though.

[My Final Heaven]

I thought Washington was fired for saying live on Raw (that I was at) something about the PTP's opponents being in more trouble than a white girl in Kobe Bryant's locker room or something.

"Titus O'Neil is like Kobe Bryant in a hotel in Colorado, HE'S UNSTOPPABLE!"

That was the 1st slipup that put him on thin ice. The most retarded thing about that was he said that in 2012, the Kobe sexual assault thing happened in 2003 - putting yourself on your bosses shitlist for a 9 year old joke :lol:

He got released after he tweeted

"#AWPromotion$ says vote for Linda McMahon!!! The PTP'z support Linda and so should you!"

[Emperor Smeat]

Reliability is very hit or miss but Sports Illustrated's Justin Barrasso reports Cass was fired due to “personal conduct issues” related to last month's European tour and his issues with alcoholism.

Also reported WWE was impressed with his performance at MitB but wasn't enough to outweigh all the problems they had with him.

https://www.si.com/wrestling/2018/06/19/big-cass-released-wwe-personal-conduct-issues

[Rammsteinmad]

I do feel kinda bad for the guy. Vince and co. are always repeatedly saying in interviews how guys these days are afraid to take risks etc, so someone goes against the bosses orders and it lands him in the dog house. I guess there's a difference between trying your own thing and disobeying a direct order, but still.

That whole midget beatdown thing wasn't the worst thing in the world. Sounds like nobody high up is keen on Cass to begin with.

[erickman]

Reliability is very hit or miss but Sports Illustrated's Justin Barrasso reports Cass was fired due to “personal conduct issues” related to last month's European tour and his issues with alcoholism.

Also reported WWE was impressed with his performance at MitB but wasn't enough to outweigh all the problems they had with him.

https://www.si.com/wrestling/2018/06/19/big-cass-released-wwe-personal-conduct-issues

damn eurpean tours always gets someone, they get drunk and act like cass holes.

also if he couldn't work with brian then he will have problems in the indys

[slik]

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[Mr. Nerfect]

Yaaaaaay! Big Cass was atrocious. He also sounds like a giant asshole. Glad he's gone and not stinking up random YouTube clips I watch. He and Enzo will be in TNA very soon and act like they're worth shit when they're not.

[Ruien]

I do feel kinda bad for the guy. Vince and co. are always repeatedly saying in interviews how guys these days are afraid to take risks etc, so someone goes against the bosses orders and it lands him in the dog house. I guess there's a difference between trying your own thing and disobeying a direct order, but still.

That whole midget beatdown thing wasn't the worst thing in the world. Sounds like nobody high up is keen on Cass to begin with.

So this.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Bada bing bada boom realest Gyno titties in the room!

[Maluco]

Indie promotors must be licking their lips. These guys looked to be must over act on the roster at one stage and now they are both gone. Crazy how life takes turns.

He does look pretty lazy (see gyro tits (dale)) and his attitude problems. But for one off appearances these guys will sell

[dronepool]

Good.

[Stickman]

Cass was way better than Ryback

[xrodmuc316]

Cass was way better than Ryback

Lol come on

[Emperor Smeat]

Apparently another cause for his firing was him destroying a bathroom door in a bus because he thought he was getting pranked.

Multiple sources tell us one of the incidents which rubbed people the wrong way happened in private, however, on the WWE bus chauffeuring talent.

We’re told the bathroom lock was apparently broken, but Cass didn’t realize it and thought he was being pranked. After being stuck inside for too long, a claustrophobic/angry Cass broke down the door. This meant people had to embarrassingly use the bathroom afterward with no door.

This, obviously, made some of the riders on the bus unhappy. It’s worth noting that some understood his frustration though and weren’t as angry as others.

Both of these incidents in such short time — coupled with 1-2 minor unverified incidents that we’re working to confirm with additional sources — seem to have been the final straw.

http://www.prowrestlingsheet.com/reasoning-details-big-cass-release/

[DAMN iNATOR]

On an edition of Smackdown prior to his PPV match against Daniel Bryan.

The big boot was in the script but him beating the ever-loving shit out of him afterwards was not. He's asked permission to do that but had been told not to and did it anyway.

That and apparently attitude problems backstage helped contribute to his release without a "best of luck" line in the press release about it.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Apparently another cause for his firing was him destroying a bathroom door in a bus because he thought he was getting pranked.



http://www.prowrestlingsheet.com/reasoning-details-big-cass-release/

What is Big Hans doing in the Impact Zone?

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[Mr. Nerfect]

All this is compounded by the fact that he sucks. Sin Cara gets into fights with talent, some of them even top stars, but he still has a job because he isn't absolutely atrocious on every level.

[GD]

Noid, you need to chill the f out with the hatred.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

He's not wrong though.

[DAMN iNATOR]

He's not wrong though.

Cass sucks, but Botch Cara is pretty awful too.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

I'm thinking he's talking Hunico Cara, who doesn't really suck.

[Innovator]

Hunico Cara also regulated on Simon Gotch backstage

[Emperor Smeat]

According to Simon Dean, Big Cass' resentment in the locker room also extended to former wrestlers since on at least one occasion, Cass forced someone out of the locker room who was just visiting old pals.

As noted, former WWE wrestler Mike Bucci, a.k.a. Simon Dean, shared a story on Facebook about Cass once "big-dogging" a former co-worker who was backstage, and forced him out of the locker room.

"A former wrestling co-worker of mine from back in my WWE days was backstage at a show about a year ago and Big Cass big dogged him and asked him to leave the locker room," Bucci wrote on Facebook. "If their paths cross again on the indys, I hope I'm there to see my old buddy return the favor."

[screech]

He was garbage after he turned on Enzo - got exposed as, well, not being very good at rasslin things.

Also I want to know which friend of Simon Dean's Cass "big-dogged."

[erickman]

According to Simon Dean, Big Cass' resentment in the locker room also extended to former wrestlers since on at least one occasion, Cass forced someone out of the locker room who was just visiting old pals.

good luck in the indys with heat with other wrestlers

[Helmsphere]

He was garbage after he turned on Enzo - got exposed as, well, not being very good at rasslin things.

Also I want to know which friend of Simon Dean's Cass "big-dogged."

Simon Dean has friends? It must be Maven.

IF that is the case, I hope Maven dropkicks him out of existance eventually

[screech]

I don't care if it's The Rock, I'm going to be severely disappointed if the mystery friend isn't Maven.

[xrodmuc316]

I don't care if it's The Rock, I'm going to be severely disappointed if the mystery friend isn't Maven.

I was a fan of Maven, so much so that I remember even watching an episode of The Surreal Life cause he was on it.

That dude dropped the ball getting into pain meds WAY too early in his career. He could have been another Curt Hawkins or Funaki with a decade long career if he kept himself under control.

Unlike Cass, WWE is tends to keep jobbers around as long as they (WWE) are making money and the person isnt a Casshole or a druggie.

[Emperor Smeat]

More details from the Observer regarding Cass' release. Turns out Cass pissed off Vince not once but twice within a short period of time and got someone else fired as collateral damage.

There was also another incident where Cass blew off a rehearsal for a promo that WWE producer Kevin Dunn asked for, and on the live version, Cass apparently went too long. Meltzer says that Vince McMahon reportedly hated the promo (which promo wasn’t specified) and even fired the promo writer a few weeks ago ...

There were also reportedly negative feelings about him before his knee injury last year, stemming from his feud against the Big Show. WWE officials apparently felt that the feud did not go well and much of the blame was put on Cass. Meltzer says that there was also some negativity towards his work during his feud with Bryan, but that was not a reason for him to be fired in the way that he was.

Cass also reportedly “had enemies,” Meltzer says, stemming from an argument he had with Sami Zayn where he strongly defended Donald Trump’s treatment of Muslims, which “ruffled many people’s feathers.” However, being that the McMahons are major donors to Donald Trump and Linda McMahon has a job in Trump’s cabinet, that was definitely not the reason that McMahon fired him.

[Emperor Smeat]

Rumor going around the net implies the real reason for Cass' firing was due to a recent incident involving him and Carmella that got a bit physical and required several wrestlers to step in to break it up.

Only problem is the source of the rumor is a lot worse than Sports Illustrated when it comes to reliability.

Might be the same source currently pushing the rumor that most of the women's locker room despises Alexa Bliss over claims she's sleeping with someone in Creative or management to get big pushes.

[Anybody Thrilla]

Buddy Murphy isn't a writer, is he?

[RP]

Rumor going around the net implies the real reason for Cass' firing was due to a recent incident involving him and Carmella that got a bit physical and required several wrestlers to step in to break it up.

Only problem is the source of the rumor is a lot worse than Sports Illustrated when it comes to reliability.

Might be the same source currently pushing the rumor that most of the women's locker room despises Alexa Bliss over claims she's sleeping with someone in Creative or management to get big pushes.

Kevin Dunn is wrecking Alexa Bliss in the ass every night.

[Evil Vito]

I would 100% deal with the unending stress of being on the WWE writing staff if it meant Alexa was willing to jump my bones

[Mr. Nerfect]

Noid, you need to chill the f out with the hatred.

Fuck you.

[Sting Fan]

Cass was channel change terrible, now if only Corban could follow suit I might get through a WWE show without changing the channel.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

I don't understand their propensity for awkward, wooden big men with 0 charisma.

[Mr. Nerfect]

To be fair, I can see how they thought something was there as a babyface. But when he went heel...good god.

[xrodmuc316]

To be fair, I can see how they thought something was there as a babyface. But when he went heel...good god.

He was Billy Gunn over as a face, meaning his partner was so over on the Mic, so was he by association.

Billy Gunn could at least work in the ring.

Cass as a solo act without Enzo was never going to work.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Billy Gunn could at least work in the ring.


Debatable. He was athletic as hell but he was kind of shit.

[KIRA]

Just think James Ellsworth is a better wrestler than big Cass and a better talker and seemingly a better person.

[Big Vic]

I thought Cass was ok but Ellsworth is 20x better.

[DaveWadding]

I don't understand their propensity for awkward, wooden big men with 0 charisma.

He's 7 foot tall, and you can't teach that.

[GD]

Big Cass' ass was kinda thick.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

He's 7 foot tall, and you can't teach that.

apparently you also can't teach having a good match with Daniel Bryan, one of the best bell-to-bell wrestlers of all time.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

I actually didn't mind the one match I saw against Bryan but it was an easy chirp. There's something about Cass that makes me not care though. So generic.... and so greasy.

[Anybody Thrilla]

The Bryan match was good. I'm not bothered at all by his release, though.

[KIRA]

apparently you also can't teach having a good match with Daniel Bryan, one of the best bell-to-bell wrestlers of all time.
If Daniel Bryan can't work magic with you you should f****** quit

[Destor]

No matter how good you are there are always going to people who you have 0 chemistry with. Thats just how it works.

[Shadrick]

I care about Cass like I care about Lashley.

I don't. At all.

[Vastardikai]

He was a tall, chubby guy in trunks. He needed a singlet and tights so he wouldn't look so chubby. Hell, throw in some pinstripes on the tights and he would have looked even taller.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

He was an untalented Dan Spivey.

[Mr. Nerfect]

He was Billy Gunn over as a face, meaning his partner was so over on the Mic, so was he by association.

Billy Gunn could at least work in the ring.

Cass as a solo act without Enzo was never going to work.

Billy Gunn does seem like an apt comparison, even if you don't want to give Gunn credit.

[Emperor Smeat]

According to the Observer, chances of Enzo and Cass reuniting in the indies is pretty much slim to none since their longtime friendship is legit over.

Based on what Enzo mentioned in the Steve Austin podcast show, seems the cause of it was a promo or comments Enzo ridiculing Cass' injury. Ended up pissing off Cass enough to break the friendship and in return, Enzo hates Cass for not coming to his side during the rape allegations and his firing from the WWE.

[Fignuts]

Not an enzo fan, but what a big fat baby Cass is if that's true.

[Big Vic]

"Don't get heat off my injury".... smh

[Mr. Nerfect]

I'm starting to see why those guys were friends in the first place. I still think they will end up as TNA Tag Champs by the end of the year.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

they'll be know as the roofalyn bros

[Mr. Nerfect]

Endzone Deplore and "Big Ass" Colon Assidy. But eventually Ass gets people to call him "Mr. Ass" to channel the Billy Gunn vibes even more.

[Tom Guycott]

Billy Gunn could at least work in the ring.



Debatable. He was athletic as hell but he was kind of shit.

Don't you mean... he was kind of... ASS, MAN!