Hulk Hogan reinstated to WWE HOF.

[RaginRonic]

https://www.wwe.com/article/hulk-hogan-reinstated-into-wwe-hall-of-fame?sf193730743=1

STAMFORD, Conn. — After a three-year suspension, Hulk Hogan has been reinstated into the WWE Hall of Fame. This second chance follows Hogan’s numerous public apologies and volunteering to work with young people, where he is helping them learn from his mistake. These efforts led to a recent induction into the Boys & Girls Clubs of America Alumni Hall of Fame.

O.o

[slik]

Welcome back Hulk!

[Maluco]

If he has really worked to redeem himself and is genuinely repentant and has learned from his behaviour, no reason why he shouldn't be allowed back in. Stupid comments and am sure many fans were let down by them, but hopefully he has learned and become a better person because of it all.

He is a living legend, so nice to enjoy him while he is still around.

[Gerard]

Reinstated into an imaginary hall of fame. :shifty:

[A.J.K]

About Time.

[slik]

Hulk spoke w/ the WWE wrestlers backstage in Pittsburgh, site of tonight's EXTREME RULES event:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Just met with the <a href="https://twitter.com/WWE?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@WWE</a> Superstars and on all levels the volume of love and support was overwhelming. I’ve been praying for this day and I finally feel like I made it back home. Only Love 4 the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WWEUNIVERSE?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WWEUNIVERSE</a> brother HH</p>&mdash; Hulk Hogan (@HulkHogan) <a href="https://twitter.com/HulkHogan/status/1018589061852917766?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 15, 2018</a></blockquote>
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[Evil Vito]

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[xrodmuc316]

If he has really worked to redeem himself and is genuinely repentant and has learned from his behaviour, no reason why he shouldn't be allowed back in. Stupid comments and am sure many fans were let down by them, but hopefully he has learned and become a better person because of it all.

He is a living legend, so nice to enjoy him while he is still around.

I believe all the wrestlers that have gone to bat for him speaks volumes. A guy as well respected as Booker T has nothing to gain by doing so, yet he did, and that means something.

The fact is the dude did say racist things at the low point in his life, kid in jail, getting divorced, ect. That is not excusing the behavior, but he was punished by WWE keeping him away for 3+ years.

I think that, along with all the charity work he has done, the fact that he owned up to it, and seems truly remorseful, I don't think you punish him forever.

[Swiss Ultimate]

If he has really worked to redeem himself and is genuinely repentant and has learned from his behaviour, no reason why he shouldn't be allowed back in. Stupid comments and am sure many fans were let down by them, but hopefully he has learned and become a better person because of it all.

He is a living legend, so nice to enjoy him while he is still around.

None of this matters.

If Roman Polanski gets to keep his Oscar, who gives a fuck?

[xrodmuc316]

None of this matters.

If Roman Polanski gets to keep his Oscar, who gives a fuck?

It really doesnt, you can't erase history with symbolic gestures.

Yeah Reggie Bush got some money, but just cause the NCAA says nobody won the Heisman in 2005, Reggie Bush won it. I remember, he has an amazing year.

Hulk Hogan dropped a couple N Bombs about one person He hated. He hates one person who he choose to use a vile racist slur about to convey his hatred.

Had he called the guy a dickhead, nobody would have cared. Alas, that isn't what he said.

[Droford]

Hulk Hogan and Papa John!

[DAMN iNATOR]

http://i.imgur.com/6ZGU8mC.jpg

Did Shisen hijack your account?

Also, OH HELL YEAH! @ this awesome news! Duck the haters, Brother/Dude [Love]/{Cactus} Jack!!!

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[Savio]

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/LkfhS255dfo/hqdefault.jpg

[Gerard]

Wonder how many times he used the word "brother" during the apology?:wtf:

[Gerard]

It really doesnt, you can't erase history with symbolic gestures.

Yeah Reggie Bush got some money, but just cause the NCAA says nobody won the Heisman in 2005, Reggie Bush won it. I remember, he has an amazing year.

Hulk Hogan dropped a couple N Bombs about one person He hated. He hates one person who he choose to use a vile racist slur about to convey his hatred.

Had he called the guy a dickhead, nobody would have cared. Alas, that isn't what he said.

He said "nigger", big fucking deal. That's like the fucking Voldemort of slurs for some fucking reason or other. Had he said wop or mick or something along those lines it wouldn't have had half the press that "nigger" did.

[Bad News Gertner]

Yesssssssssssssssss!

[Savio]

Hogan caught spray painting something outside

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[#1-norm-fan]

The GOAT is on his way back! Gonna add some actual star power to the shows and make them seem like a big deal. Let him take the title off Lesnar and hold it for a year without ever defending it. FUCK IT.

[Emperor Smeat]

Not surprised considering its been rumored ever since he got kicked out that Vince wanted him reinstated as soon as possible and didn't really want to do it in the first place.

The real test is going to be when he inevitably shows up on tv or at an event and how big the backlash it generates.

[Mr. Nerfect]

This is something that was inevitable and isn't something I've been particularly interested in, but now that it's been announced I just think "Gross" and it feels like more of a reason to just not give a shit about this promotion.

[Emperor Smeat]

After the company announced that he's been reinstated into their Hall of Fame, Hogan sent out a tweet this afternoon about meeting with the WWE roster at Extreme Rules: "Just met with the @WWE Superstars and on all levels the volume of love and support was overwhelming. I’ve been praying for this day and I finally feel like I made it back home. Only Love 4 the #WWEUNIVERSE brother HH"

Dave Meltzer notes that Hogan apologized to everyone for the racist rant that led to Hogan being fired from WWE in July 2015. Meltzer added that there were wrestlers cheering for Hogan and congratulating and hugging him.

PWInsider first reported the details of Hogan's apology. They wrote that Hogan reminded everyone to always think about what they're saying and that, in today's day and age, "they have to remember that there are always cameras everywhere and they could be recorded even when they don't realize they are."
Something about the reactions comes off as a bit weird. Like something you wouldn't actually expect to be that festive in tone but then again, WWE made it weird to begin with how they mishandled things.

Even one of the main lessons from his speech feels a bit off going by PWI's part. Like its great that he apologized and realized his error but also sort of blamed the camera for being outed as a racist instead of having those views to begin with.

[Mr. Nerfect]

It reminds me of the David Cross joke "First of all, I forgot them microphones was on..."

It's just more PR hippy-dippy bullshit. "He's learnt his lesson. He won't ever say those things publicly again. Now we can all be a happy family...or else." Like, what is a black roster member supposed to say? If they're cool with it -- good for them, I guess. If they're not, are they really going to go up to Vince and Triple H and say "I don't like this"? It's got that "hands-tied, play ball" feeling to it. And let's not pretend that there was an actual suspension or that this is part of some ongoing process of healing. They distanced themselves and now they want him back because they have no real stars.

It's got that Saudi propaganda feeling to it, and just like that, I do hope it blows back in their face at some point, just because I am now actively root against this company.

[Bad News Gertner]

I hope they make Hogan the trouble-shooting GM of Raw.

[slik]

Would prefer Hogan to Angle 100% tbh

[Bad News Gertner]

If any heel gives him shit, Hogan drops the leg brother!

[slik]

KO getting legdropped brotherjack

[Swiss Ultimate]

This is something that was inevitable and isn't something I've been particularly interested in, but now that it's been announced I just think "Gross" and it feels like more of a reason to just not give a shit about this promotion.

Owen Hart's death, Stinkface, Drug abuse, firing JR, Chris Benoit, and driving out CM Punk.

Hogan saying racist shit isn't really a big deal.

[Shisen Kopf]

Hogan should join Titus Worldwide and become the HNIC

[EIWF]

The real test is going to be when he inevitably shows up on tv or at an event and how big the backlash it generates.


thats easy, make him a heel if that happens. The fans always decide.... ;)

[slik]

Big E three years ago:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Appropriate a culture, pilfer from its dialect, profit wildly from it, and regard its people as subhuman. Makes sense...</p>&mdash; Florida Man (@WWEBigE) <a href="https://twitter.com/WWEBigE/status/624673729511993344?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 24, 2015</a></blockquote>
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[Emperor Smeat]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Hogan meeting with talent backstage was filmed for an upcoming WWE Network special. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ExtremeRules?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ExtremeRules</a></p>&mdash; Bryan Alvarez (@bryanalvarez) <a href="https://twitter.com/bryanalvarez/status/1018638452017917952?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 15, 2018</a></blockquote>
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[Bad News Gertner]

Hogan ain't getting booed when he returns. If anything, the company will probably wait to run a "Hogan friendly city" like Detroit or Toronto for his return. Hogan could lead a second Holocaust and get cheered in Toronto.

[Shisen Kopf]

i remember cheering Hogan at WM18. Good times.

[slik]

SJW fans want Big E's last name back


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Oh god, I only just realised the parallels between slaves being forced to take their master's surnames and Big E losing his. Does E stand for Entertainment, as in World Wrestling Entertainment, owner of Big Entertainment?!</p>&mdash; Scarlett Harris (@ScarlettEHarris) <a href="https://twitter.com/ScarlettEHarris/status/1018750113622052865?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 16, 2018</a></blockquote>
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[Mr. JL]

The fact that this was taped makes this all PR bullshit.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Mark Henry has said that the black talent in WWE are apparently 50/50 on Hogan coming back.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

SJW fans want Big E's last name back


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Oh god, I only just realised the parallels between slaves being forced to take their master's surnames and Big E losing his. Does E stand for Entertainment, as in World Wrestling Entertainment, owner of Big Entertainment?!</p>&mdash; Scarlett Harris (@ScarlettEHarris) <a href="https://twitter.com/ScarlettEHarris/status/1018750113622052865?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 16, 2018</a></blockquote>
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.... I wonder if they understand that isn't his real name?

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

but the good news is Noid may have found himself an ideal suitor ;) (LMFAO just kidding Noidsy, fight the power!)

[Mr. Nerfect]

Big E. Langston does sound better than Big E. Big E sounds like a euphemism.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

I mean... neither name sounds like a main eventer, but he's from the time when they just came up with awful names. But "Big E." is not akin to a fucking slave name lmfao.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I can imagine Big E. Langston calling his fans "The Langston Nation" or something.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

:'(

[Rammsteinmad]

I can't believe for a second that Hogan did any charity work without any ulterior motives, such as, y'know, cleaning up his public image.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I don't think Hogan has ever done anything without ulterior motives.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

it's weird. There's nothing about him that screams "upstanding individual" but many people laud his loyalty and kindness.

He's likely a deeply complicated man with positives and negatives... one of the main negatives being he's a fucking racist lmfao.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I think it's largely nostalgia filtered through platitudes. And there's always been something endearing about the guy. You can't deny his charisma. And there's something "lost puppy" about him. You don't think of him as an actively malicious guy. Then it turns out he's awful and it's like...fine. I mean, wrestling is full of awful people, just like any medium. I just don't see why you'd bring him back. It's not like he can even participate in angles and such. The only role is an ambassador and he's kind of fucked that up with certain demographics that should be very important.

I don't really blame Hogan for trying to get the money he can. I'm more annoyed at the WWE for the faux-PR bullshit. Of course it's what they're going to do, but I just can't support a promotion that so obviously couldn't give a fuck.

Hogan will still be more over than the entire roster put together.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

It's kind of hard to completely abandon the guy whose back you built your company on. For business reasons and for loyalty reasons (probably more the former than the latter).

[Mr. Nerfect]

Yeah, but at the same time, what have you done for me lately. I guess we're about to find out...

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Well I think the "lately" is the fact that there is a lately. Plus, his presence in one way or another, particularly if leveraged correctly, generates some kind of buzz. Esp. with the faux redemption narrative they're pushing.

[slik]

.... I wonder if they understand that isn't his real name?

Probably not.

I read something on twitter about a group of SJW's who have a new mission to 'destroy WWE' for un-suspending Hogan.

Good luck w/ that...

[DaveWadding]

They should bring back Sid to shout HOAK HOGAN

[Evil Vito]

I look forward to Hogan raising Lashley's hand at SummerSlam

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

I look forward to Hogan raising Lashley's hand at SummerSlam

Hogan after this happens (behind the scenes):

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[Anybody Thrilla]

Hulk Hogan dropped a couple N Bombs about one person He hated. He hates one person who he choose to use a vile racist slur about to convey his hatred.

Had he called the guy a dickhead, nobody would have cared. Alas, that isn't what he said.

The problem herein lies...no one just 'drops a couple N Bombs'. If he said it then, he clearly says it regularly when he's comfortable and not aware that he's being recorded. You can't say it's akin to calling someone a dickhead either. Dickhead isn't racially driven. The other thing is.

I was never a Hogan fan and I think that all of this makes him sound like a bit of a piece of shit. Even still, I'm not outraged that he's in the WWE hall of fame. It's a bizarre business, and I'm sure there are countless others that have done far, far worse without being outed.

I'm just going to chalk Hogan up as the, err...dickhead that I already assumed he was and hope that he doesn't try to wrestle again. I just like wrestling.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

lol how did I miss that ridiculous post by Xrod?

[Anybody Thrilla]

I mean... neither name sounds like a main eventer, but he's from the time when they just came up with awful names. But "Big E." is not akin to a fucking slave name lmfao.

That's not what they were saying. They were saying that the taking away of the LAST name was akin to behavior exhibited during slavery. Which I think is completely off base. It probably just fits better on t-shirts.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

That's not what they were saying. They were saying that the taking away of the LAST name was akin to behavior exhibited during slavery. Which I think is completely off base. It probably just fits better on t-shirts.

... exactly the point I was making.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

the only difference is I think by making that statement they're essentially calling Big E. his slave name.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

I find their statement actually quite revolting and reductive towards Big E but that's just me.

[DaveWadding]

I'm just going to chalk Hogan up as the, err...dickhead that I already assumed he was and hope that he doesn't try to wrestle again. I just like wrestling.

Bah gawd, you were going to call Hoak Hogan the N word! Is it okay when you do it?

[Anybody Thrilla]

What do I have to do with it?

[Anybody Thrilla]

I've always been a proponent of 'it doesn't matter what you say, but how you say it', and he said it in a really shitty way in this instance.

[LibSuperstar]

I think it's largely nostalgia filtered through platitudes. And there's always been something endearing about the guy. You can't deny his charisma. And there's something "lost puppy" about him. You don't think of him as an actively malicious guy. Then it turns out he's awful and it's like...fine. I mean, wrestling is full of awful people, just like any medium. I just don't see why you'd bring him back. It's not like he can even participate in angles and such. The only role is an ambassador and he's kind of fucked that up with certain demographics that should be very important.

I don't really blame Hogan for trying to get the money he can. I'm more annoyed at the WWE for the faux-PR bullshit. Of course it's what they're going to do, but I just can't support a promotion that so obviously couldn't give a fuck.

Hogan will still be more over than the entire roster put together.

You hit the nail on the head.

[Big Vic]

I want Big E to fuck the shit out of Brooke and Nick while Hogan watches.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

I want Big E to fuck the shit out of Brooke and Nick while Hogan watches.

Vince would have to be in the room too...

"YEAH, YOU LIKE IT TERRY, DON'T YOU!"

[Sixx]

I want Big E to fuck the shit out of Brooke and Nick while Hogan watches.

Hogan would be like "Tae Nick, he's tighter".

Big E "Ummmm, how do you..."

Hogan "Come on" plus a pedo smile.

[RP]

Big Black Penis Langston

[Mr. Nerfect]

Probably not.

I read something on twitter about a group of SJW's who have a new mission to 'destroy WWE' for un-suspending Hogan.

Good luck w/ that...

That sounds ludicrous, but with the WWE's mission to gain more and more mainstream attention, and their active mentality to be as shitty as possible, this sort of negative perception is going to get more and more prevalent. Reinstating an open racist, taking Saudi money as they lock up women for daring to drive and executing homosexuals, promoting their female talent as equal and then paying them less, treating their black talent like two-dimensional caricatures, them not having a union, etc. This is a shitty, shitty company. They have a history of being shit. Someone pointed out a history of tasteless things they have done like that proves a point about the newer stuff. Okay? More and more people are going to get wind of that.

Sure, a lot of them are clueless about the product. This isn't something people with taste watch. It's awful television with plot-holes out the ass. We're a particular brand of nerd and we hate it a lot of the time. They're going to say things that sound really dumb to wrestling fans, but in the broad strokes they are going to be completely correct -- WWE is pretty cunty for hiring back an open racist in order to milk a quick buck from its fly-catching fan-base. They are planning more Saudi propaganda shows. Charlotte Flair is probably not paid as well as Randy Orton despite being more crucial to the WWE's crucial story arcs of 2018 and probably 2019.

And that perception can become toxic for advertisers and investors. Maybe not a large scale right away, but social progression has seen businesses drop relationships with the NRA in recent months, and animal rights has led to the closing down of at least one major circus. If enough people say "Fuck it, we're not going to buy Snickers as long as Hogan is employed by WWE," that could soon turn into "Fuck it, we're not going to watch anything on USA or FOX for as long as they keep television deals with Vince McMahon." Consumers are active agents and if the perception of WWE is "Fucking gross, who would support this awful company?", well, we'll cross that bridge when we come to it.

[Mr. Nerfect]

WWE has gotten away with it for so long because no one gives a shit about wrestling.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

My guess is they'll continually adjust JUST enough to keep doing shitty WWE things.

[Big Vic]

I could see the plan being:

Hogan will ref the match between Brock vs Lashley and raise Lashleys hand at the end...
Until Vince changes it to hogan costing Lashley the title.

"Think of the heat it will get!"

[Mr. Nerfect]

My guess is they'll continually adjust JUST enough to keep doing shitty WWE things.

:y:

[Mr. Nerfect]

I could see the plan being:

Hogan will ref the match between Brock vs Lashley and raise Lashleys hand at the end...
Until Vince changes it to hogan costing Lashley the title.

"Think of the heat it will get!"

It's a cute idea, but the WWE doesn't program for heat anymore. Lashley would "respect" Hogan for costing him the title.

[Emperor Smeat]

Pro Wrestling Sheet speculating/teasing WWE probably is considering the idea of ending SummerSlam with Lashley defeating Lesnar for the Universal title and Hogan coming out to raise his hand. Idea being to celebrate the 1st ever black Universal champ and help rehab Hogan's image.

WWE claiming Hogan's apology was not filmed nor was the whole thing staged just for a future Network special.

According to Mark Henry, not all of the locker room was receptive to Hogan being back. Around a 50-50 split with African American stars on the roster and some furious with WWE's decision.

Meanwhile Jerry Lawler claims WWE should have never removed or suspended Hogan to begin with and instead blamed "PC Culture" for making this into an issue.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Pro Wrestling Sheet speculating/teasing WWE probably is considering the idea of ending SummerSlam with Lashley defeating Lesnar for the Universal title and Hogan coming out to raise his hand. Idea being to celebrate the 1st ever black Universal champ and help rehab Hogan's image.



:lol: Fuck that's depressing. We sniffed it out from a mile away.

[Big Vic]

I wish they had Big E beat Jinder for the title at a house show and then lose it back the next day just so it would be quiet and there wouldn't be a huge "first black WWE champion crowned" story.

"What about Rock?" "He's not black enough"
"What about Jinder?" "He's Indian"

[Mr. Nerfect]

I love Jerry Lawler as a performer, but I'm pretty sure he's been party to some racist shit in Memphis. And to paraphrase the man himself "The worst part about dating a younger woman is when you have to drop them off at school."

[Mr. Nerfect]

WWE won't do the first black Universal Champion thing. They'll have Lashley win the belt, sure, but they'll present him as another in a long line of proud black WWE Champions. The Rock, Mark Henry, Bobby Lashley, R-Truth (we can pass him off as a former WWE Champion, right?), Finn Balor (black Irish is a thing, right?) and Bobby Lashley. Meanwhile Booker T sits on the panel talking about how jacked he is.

[Sixx]

Why does everyone call The Rock black? :(

He's caramel.

[Emperor Smeat]

I love Jerry Lawler as a performer, but I'm pretty sure he's been party to some racist shit in Memphis. And to paraphrase the man himself "The worst part about dating a younger woman is when you have to drop them off at school."

He's pretty much a ticking time bomb of when, not if, his scandals are going to get exposed big time. If he's lucky, the avalanche happens after he's dead like with Moolah and her pimping scandals.

[Evil Vito]

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that... does not embed well at all, but if you click on it you'll get a statement from the New Day collectively about Hogan's reinstatement. a tl;dr is basically "he should be in the Hall of Fame because his importance to wrestling is undeniable, but on a personal level we haven't forgotten what he said and unless it becomes clear to us that he's changed in a meaningful way we're not planning on associating with him any time soon."

[slik]

Very well said/written IMO

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

that... does not embed well at all, but if you click on it you'll get a statement from the New Day collectively about Hogan's reinstatement. a tl;dr is basically "he should be in the Hall of Fame because his importance to wrestling is undeniable, but on a personal level we haven't forgotten what he said and unless it becomes clear to us that he's changed in a meaningful way we're not planning on associating with him any time soon."

Kofi is v wise and that's about as cool and calm a 'fuck you' he could have given without outright saying it.

[Big Vic]

You guys aren't black so therefor you are not allowed to have an opinion on race.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

You guys aren't black so there for you are not allowed to have an opinion on race.

I get what you're doing but it doesn't do much for the conversation.

[Big Vic]

Ok Thrilla

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

how dare u

[Big Vic]

TDO's Tampon Salesman :cool:

[DAMN iNATOR]

Why does everyone call The Rock black? :(

He's caramel.

Well, Rocky Johnson is his father. Just spitballing here, but maybe that has something to do with it.

[Ezra]

Only thing about new days statement i dont get behind is basically seperating black people as "our people." That is creating and encoraging a divide/division. We need to start teaching ourselves as humans and as one people. Would have been just as easy to explain hohans acism without further dividing people.

[LibSuperstar]

Only thing about new days statement i dont get behind is basically seperating black people as "our people." That is creating and encoraging a divide/division. We need to start teaching ourselves as humans and as one people. Would have been just as easy to explain hohans acism without further dividing people.

The human race has been divided since the beginning because humans are tribalistic. Problem isn't with people distinguishing themselves into groups but rather viewing other groups as lesser and subjugating them.

[Ezra]

We just need to all come together as one maaaannnn

Join the human race.

[Sixx]

The human race has been divided since the beginning because humans are tribalistic. Problem isn't with people distinguishing themselves into groups but rather viewing other groups as lesser and subjugating them.

That a gimmick poster?

[Innovator]

Very well said/written IMO

More eloquent than Fale:

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[slik]

Vinny Mac wasn't at Extreme Rules either, very rare...

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">One of the biggest points of interest to come out of the meeting to reintroduce Hulk Hogan was the absence of Vince McMahon. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WWE?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WWE</a></p>&mdash; �������� �������������� (@TheBradShepard) <a href="https://twitter.com/TheBradShepard/status/1019583919509966848?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 18, 2018</a></blockquote>
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[#1-norm-fan]

Maybe Vince is finally smart enough to realize he doesn't need to attend the shows since they're basically all just "throw some guys out there to have a match and draw the winner out of a hat."

[slik]

Maybe he's working on the XFL and testing how HHH/Steph do 'running the show' without his presence

[Heisenberg]

Let's assume that Robert of Lashley has the cojones to live promo on the issue, brotherjackDUDE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Jordan]

I read that Hogan is going to return with the NWO, this time it will just be "NWO White's ONLY" Not NWO Black & White.

More as this story develops.

[Sixx]

I read that Hogan is going to return with the NWO, this time it will just be "NWO White's ONLY" Not NWO Black & White.

More as this story develops.

Then the "NWO Red" will come and accuse NWO Whites of stealing their land.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Only thing about new days statement i dont get behind is basically seperating black people as "our people." That is creating and encoraging a divide/division. We need to start teaching ourselves as humans and as one people. Would have been just as easy to explain hohans acism without further dividing people.

This is such a white sentiment, lol. First not acknowledging the divides imposed on people in the first place, and secondly projecting criticism for those divides when they are acknowledged.

Hogan divided people by using the language he used. Language that has been used to divide for years and years. There are fans that are struggling with a guy they saw as an entertainment hero who rejected their very being. It's a very real thing for others trying to lead through entertainment to feel the responsibility in addressing.

We'll become "one people" when we stop tolerating racism and people stop crying about "white genocide" and whinging about black people standing up for themselves in a society that, sometimes just out of ignorance, treats them terribly.

[Mr. Nerfect]

That was a great statement issued by The New Day. I kind of mark for them being doing so almost in a kayfabe sense too, haha. They very easily could have all released their own versions of it. As Dale said, it's a more mature "fuck you" than just about anything else. Treating Hogan with ambivalence is probably the most damaging thing you can do to his ego anyway.

The only part of the statement I disagree with is them suggesting that they are committed to providing an entertaining product. Have they been paying attention to the shit they've been doing recently?

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

This is such a white sentiment, lol.

I agree with everything you said - but this type of rhetoric is still turd.

We can acknowledge all the things you acknowledged without blanketing an entire race of people. We can be critical of the things you're critical of without the bile.

[Mr. Nerfect]

That is very sensitive, Dale.

[Mr. Nerfect]

#notallwhitepeople

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

That is very sensitive, Dale.

It didn't hurt my feelings, I just think it hurts you intellectually. I'm not a knob, I see Twitter, I get its fashionable for "white" to be associated with negativity because sociology professors world wide indoctrinated it into a legion of undergrads (I was in some of those classes). But that is a slippery slope and a regressive mindset.

Do what you want though, I know you have good intentions.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

#notallwhitepeople

not what I said. Just challenging you.

[Mr. Nerfect]

The point is very obviously that thinking in terms of "I don't see color" is a position that is almost exclusively afforded to white people because they don't have to deal with racial divides until they get finicky about a generalization on a message board. I'm not calling for whities to be rounded up into Drew Gulaks. Relax.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

The point is very obviously that thinking in terms of "I don't see color" is a position that is almost exclusively afforded to white people because they don't have to deal with racial divides until they get finicky about a generalization on a message board. I'm not calling for whities to be rounded up into Drew Gulaks. Relax.

It's just as reductive and useless to the conversation as saying "That's such an SJW cuck thing to say".

[Mr. Nerfect]

If I were crafting an actual argument for a debate, then I would possibly consider choosing my words to be more courteous to the feelings of the people they are targeted at in order to appeal to their sense of security in order to bring them with me. But I'm not crafting an argument for the purposes of a structured debate, and it's fallacious to assume that is what someone is always doing, and is what someone always ought to be doing. Seeing how it makes people emotionally perceive them is perfectly valid, and a tool that could be used for self-reflection, as opposed to simply trying to remove it from the party and reduce things to a censored and gentrified level of discourse that euphemistically discuss the contemporary urgency of the issues at hand.

Thanks for the challenge though. Fun times.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Seeing how it makes people emotionally perceive them is perfectly valid, and a tool that could be used for self-reflection, as opposed to simply trying to remove it from the party and reduce things to a censored and gentrified level of discourse that euphemistically discuss the contemporary urgency of the issues at hand.



It usually just pisses people off and makes them think you're being a smarmy little jackass lol

[Mr. Nerfect]

It's just as reductive and useless to the conversation as saying "That's such an SJW cuck thing to say".

Until you extrapolate further. But okay.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Until you extrapolate further. But okay.

Both can be extrapolated and argued. Neither is a great way to communicate.

[Mr. Nerfect]

It usually just pisses people off and makes them think you're being a smarmy little jackass lol

It usually pisses off white people.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

It usually pisses off white people.

Well... you're blanketing all white people.

As a rugby player, if someone negatively blanketed all rugby players the same way you did white people, my initial reaction would be to be irritated. It's lazy as fuck.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Both can be extrapolated and argued. Neither is a great way to communicate.

Lol, is "SJW cuck" even an insult? If people are into that, go for it. Seems like it says more about the person throwing it around's insecurities than anything else. Kind of too specific. Your insults should be more general and feature just a little casual homophobia.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Well... you're blanketing all white people.

As a rugby player, if someone negatively blanketed all rugby players the same way you did white people, my initial reaction would be to be irritated. It's lazy as fuck.

I get what you're saying, Dale. It's just that in this context, I don't care. If you took it to be a blanket statement -- cool. That's your deal, and you can be irritated by it. Enjoy your freedom. I'm sure there are plenty of white people who could read that and think "Well, that's not me, but I can totally get the point." It was a point about the luxury of idealism benefiting off a society that has never discriminated against them racially, which you agreed with. If you choose to get annoyed by the wording, have at it.

[Evil Vito]

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[Ol Dirty Dastard]

fuck, Titus also a total class act.

Not surprising Hogan was a big weeny and coward about the whole thing.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Titus seems like a really good person. If only he could wrestle.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Titus' statement is really good, and goes one step further than The New Day's in pointing out that he doesn't believe Hogan gets the point he was apologizing for, in that he shouldn't have said those things in the first place, and that being recorded is not the point.

You can tell he takes his role in the public eye seriously. That's why the company has bent over backwards giving him other roles that don't put him front and center in the ring.

[Anybody Thrilla]

In the wake of current events, I too have a statement to issue:

Fuck Hulk Hogan.

Thank you. Godspeed.

[Jordan]

In the wake of current events, I too have a statement to issue:

Fuck Hulk Hogan.

Thank you. Godspeed.

I respect and stand behind any black person who feels this way and even though I have a childhood nostalgia of sorts for Hogan, if people feel this way I support them and that negativity overrides any positive feelings I have.

Is this Hogan action something that will prevent you from paying for WWE in the future? I know that is a tough question, this is something you've loved for years.

I think WWE would be wise to end this situation and end the relationship with Hogan for good.

[Anybody Thrilla]

The problem herein lies...no one just 'drops a couple N Bombs'. If he said it then, he clearly says it regularly when he's comfortable and not aware that he's being recorded. You can't say it's akin to calling someone a dickhead either. Dickhead isn't racially driven. The other thing is.

I was never a Hogan fan and I think that all of this makes him sound like a bit of a piece of shit. Even still, I'm not outraged that he's in the WWE hall of fame. It's a bizarre business, and I'm sure there are countless others that have done far, far worse without being outed.

I'm just going to chalk Hogan up as the, err...dickhead that I already assumed he was and hope that he doesn't try to wrestle again. I just like wrestling.

This was my actual statement.

[Jordan]

You know 10 years ago Titus, New Day would be put under the rug for speaking out like this. It's a good sign that there is jack shit they can do about it now without a violent blow back.

[Anybody Thrilla]

I dunno. New Day has been losing to Sanity, and Titus has been losing to everyone.

[Jordan]

Well New Day may have been heading for a split before all of this so I'll give it another few weeks to see what happens. I haven't even seen a Titus match in months.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Talent are speaking out all the time. Apparently The Miz made statements about the WWE Title not headlining a show. Titus O'Neil can say whatever he wants. Finn Balor can make passive aggressive tweets about not being over. Dolph can say he's better than everybody. Daniel Bryan can talk about creative not listening to him and the company using him way more than he wanted to be.

They're so afraid of firing anybody that the talent can have this company by the balls.

[Bad News Gertner]

Hogan should lead the new Nation of Domination.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Only if he is Faarooq and Velveteen Dream is The Rock.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Andre the Giant said mad racist shit to Bad News Brown but wouldn't fight him.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Given that News was a world class Judoka and a psychopath, Andre made the right decision

[Mr. Nerfect]

Andre would have been in Brown Town.

[Innovator]

In the wake of current events, I too have a statement to issue:

Fuck Hulk Hogan.

Thank you. Godspeed.

FUCK EM!?

[Emperor Smeat]

Some new details and rumors regarding the locker room meeting WWE had for Hogan:

* According to the Observer's Dave Meltzer, Triple H was the one responsible for this meeting.

* Also according Meltzer, Hogan's apology came off as less sincere due to him implying he was sorry mainly because he got caught than for saying racist stuff. Same for WWE's main lesson of what happens when you are taped instead of not saying racist/bigoted stuff to begin with.

* Meltzer also reported Hogan expected the locker room to fully bond with him after his speech and to just act like the locker room of his time. In terms of disapproval, Meltzer stated over half of the locker room was unhappy afterwards but nobody is going to really speak out due to fear of pissing off the company.

* Also found out from his sources, WWE cared a lot more about fan and sponsors reactions than their locker room's reaction when it came to Hogan's reinstatement.

* According to the Observer's Bryan Alvarez, WWE is really upset at reports of them taping Hogan's apology for future use.

* Rumors going around online is that WWE likely did tape this meeting but quickly dropped any plans to use the footage due to the negative backlash online. Also rumored WWE was surprised Hogan's apology didn't get unanimous approval since they were likely expecting their talent to use social media to put in a good word for Hogan afterwards.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Honestly... it probably would have gone over with Hogan's nostalgia-induced equity if he had apologized the right way. How he could go in there and talk about being taped absolutely blows my mind. Like how fucking stupid are you? If WWE vetted this speech and though him being taped was a sticking point, I have no words.

[DaveWadding]

I dunno. New Day has been losing to Sanity, and Titus has been losing to everyone.

Titus even jobbed to the ring in Saudi.