View Full Version : RAW -- 8.27.18 -- Official Thread ***THE BIG DOG RISES***
He is truly an inspiring philosopher we don't deserve Elias or his music
Emperor Smeat
08-27-2018, 11:03 PM
:lol: Elias
plz send the tag division
Ember
Asuka
Bob Roode
Bob Lashley
Mike Bennett
to NXT
Droford
08-27-2018, 11:04 PM
Hmm
Lock Jaw
08-27-2018, 11:04 PM
OH MY!
Anybody Thrilla
08-27-2018, 11:04 PM
I was just thinking about his feud with Seth Rollins and his attempt to win the IC Title...... that just abruptly ended....
That PPV match was SOOOOOOOOOOOO good.
And also, wow, Trish was not what I was expecting.
Dark One
08-27-2018, 11:05 PM
Goooo ooooonnnnnnn
He's going about this the wrong way far be it from me to tell the genius like Elias how to do his job but he needs to insult the Maple Leafs to get the stupid Canucks to hate him look what it did for the Rock
Anybody Thrilla
08-27-2018, 11:05 PM
Hey Trish, have you heard about the first ever all women's pay per view event, WWE Evolution pay per view only on the WWE Network in fourteen weeks?
Lock Jaw
08-27-2018, 11:05 PM
Elias sounds like he has a lisp tonight......
Lock Jaw
08-27-2018, 11:06 PM
Trish beginning to look unrecognizable from what she used to look like
Anybody Thrilla
08-27-2018, 11:07 PM
He's going about this the wrong way far be it from me to tell the genius like Elias how to do his job but he needs to insult the Maple Leafs to get the stupid Canucks to hate him look what it did for the Rock
BOOM
Anybody Thrilla
08-27-2018, 11:07 PM
Elias sounds like he has a lisp tonight......
I think his mic is either closer to his mouth than normal or louder than normal, possibly both.
Emperor Smeat
08-27-2018, 11:07 PM
Elias is probably right about the Maple Leafs diss.
Just think there was a time when a young Elias was watching Trish Stratus wrestle he's a man now and she needs to get back in the kitchen
Anybody Thrilla
08-27-2018, 11:08 PM
I don't hate this segment.
Droford
08-27-2018, 11:09 PM
Get to driftin
Anybody Thrilla
08-27-2018, 11:09 PM
Hahahahahahahahaha
Emperor Smeat
08-27-2018, 11:09 PM
Guess that means no on a bikini match between Trish and Alexa at Evolution.
:eek: at Elias' insult.
Droford
08-27-2018, 11:09 PM
Poor Elias
Anybody Thrilla
08-27-2018, 11:11 PM
Elias should be an Intercontinental champion or somewhere thereabouts, but he's still making the best out of a weird situation, to say the least.
Emperor Smeat
08-27-2018, 11:11 PM
Mess of a segment even though it was also pretty fun overall.
Mess of a segment even though it was also pretty fun overall.
Yeah it was scattershot but enjoyable
Trish better on the mic than many current lady wrestlers tbh
Trish beginning to look unrecognizable from what she used to look like
So what are you trying to say
Lock Jaw
08-27-2018, 11:15 PM
I keep focusing on Alexa Bliss and thinking Alicia Fox's outfit is covered in swastikas
Lock Jaw
08-27-2018, 11:16 PM
What happened to Mickie James..... is she injured?
Lock Jaw
08-27-2018, 11:17 PM
Ok, there's Mickie James.
Lock Jaw
08-27-2018, 11:17 PM
I hope Mickie grabs Trish by the p****
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So my Alicia....what happened to your face you know what as long as the wrestling character is still phenomenal I don't care
Lock Jaw
08-27-2018, 11:18 PM
Lotta hot brauds out here right now
Lock Jaw
08-27-2018, 11:19 PM
So my Alicia....what happened to your face you know what as long as the wrestling character is still phenomenal I don't care
What do you mean by what happened to her face......
Anybody Thrilla
08-27-2018, 11:19 PM
I'd like to see this as a six person tag.
Emperor Smeat
08-27-2018, 11:19 PM
I hope Mickie grabs Trish by the p****
http://i.imgur.com/Djl6h.gif
I keep focusing on Alexa Bliss and thinking Alicia Fox's outfit is covered in swastikas
Alicia Fox is putting on the reich!
Anybody Thrilla
08-27-2018, 11:21 PM
Did Mickie just mock Natalya dedicating that match to the Anvil?
Emperor Smeat
08-27-2018, 11:22 PM
Think both Trish's and Bliss' promo went longer than both women's matches combined tonight.
Anybody Thrilla
08-27-2018, 11:22 PM
No wonder Miz and Mrs. got a second season if the seasons are only like six episodes.
Think both Trish's and Bliss' promo went longer than both women's matches combined tonight.
WOMEN'S EVOLUTION!
(Brought to you by Stephanie McMahon and no one else)
What do you mean by what happened to her face......
Makeup
Anybody Thrilla
08-27-2018, 11:27 PM
Were there ever any Bella Twins fans? What the fuck.
Lock Jaw
08-27-2018, 11:27 PM
Bellas still bad actresses
Emperor Smeat
08-27-2018, 11:27 PM
This backstage segment is terrible.
Anybody Thrilla
08-27-2018, 11:28 PM
They're poorly promoting three PPVs simultaneously right now.
Droford
08-27-2018, 11:28 PM
But Brie is SD
Emperor Smeat
08-27-2018, 11:28 PM
This show pretty much went downhill after the Rollins-Owens IC match.
Anybody Thrilla
08-27-2018, 11:29 PM
I guess DDP is going to sit there and act like he didn't try to kidnap that man's wife.
Anybody Thrilla
08-27-2018, 11:29 PM
This show pretty much went downhill after the Rollins-Owens IC match.
It was very downhill before that match too.
God the bellas feel like leeches
Tom Guycott
08-27-2018, 11:30 PM
For a throw-away event, WWE is dedicating too much time on this Taker-HHH match.
That's because it is Taker/HHH and they are so much better and more important than any of the current active roster.
But it's the roster's fault for not getting over and not being draws. They should have just been born sooner. And taller.
lol the bellas are awful wrestlers
Tom Guycott
08-27-2018, 11:31 PM
Orton tweeted he fucked his wife just now lol
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HANDSHAKES ALL AROUND!!!
Triple H: listen guys I want you all to say that you're pulling for the Undertaker I want to go in as the underdog so that when I win everyone will finally forget all about Shawn Michaels face in the Undertaker and they will praise me me who fought fromunderneath
After all the doubting after all the naysayers
Ozark season two looks good
anyone else watch season 1?
Tom Guycott
08-27-2018, 11:35 PM
KEVIN OWENS IS ALL IN
weird KO in ring r/n 'crying' sort of on RAW
Guess Owens lost his smile.
KO going back to NXT I THINK
Comes back in a couple of weeks with Kassius Ohno and Kyle O'Riley as 3KO to take out The Shield.
Emperor Smeat
08-27-2018, 11:37 PM
It was very downhill before that match too.
Of course. The IC match managed to bring things back up but since then, its been a very skippable show in terms of anything important happening.
Anybody Thrilla
08-27-2018, 11:37 PM
I thought Graves was saying he was in Lashley's wedding too.
Sepholio
08-27-2018, 11:38 PM
LOL what is this
Ascension about to get squashed
Tom Guycott
08-27-2018, 11:39 PM
I can't wait till Ricochet gets on the main roster where he will no doubt replace Sin Cara
You spelled Curt Hawkins wrong. Because he will either be "THE ONE AND ONLY... other guy like every other guy" or crowned king of 205 Live where he will be forgotten because it's 205 Live. More Undertaker vs HHH, please!!!
lol
Also Baron Corbin you will never ever replace Kane
Emperor Smeat
08-27-2018, 11:41 PM
Well that was useless.
The emphasis in Michael Coles voice when he said lashley beat the Ascension makes it sound like it was some awesome feat which it would have been in NXT
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Man Canada got ripped off tonight except for maybe Trish Stratus and Rollins versus Owens
Tom Guycott
08-27-2018, 11:45 PM
Were there ever any Bella Twins fans? What the fuck.
You're talking about a world that gave us Kelly Kelly as a women's champion with a long reign. They're twins and they're "hot", so guys wanting to rub one out to pictures of Brie's ass and vids of Nikki's enhanced jiggle physics constitutes as "fans".
Tom Guycott
08-27-2018, 11:46 PM
I thought Graves was saying he was in Lashley's wedding too.
Graves' new gimmick: wedding crasher.
So Dean went from being Reckless to being a brute
Dean's moveset looking more 'brutal' since returning
Look I don't like you and I know you don't like me
WWE writers at work folks
This thread about 30 posters in it when RAW started
It now has 5
Shisen Kopf
08-27-2018, 11:56 PM
Johnsonville Brats are made in the USA
Dark One
08-27-2018, 11:57 PM
At least they're promoting shit for the following week for once.
That said, I'm sure at least one of them won't actually happen.
Anybody Thrilla
08-27-2018, 11:57 PM
This thread about 30 posters in it when RAW started
It now has 5
Otherwise you'd be complaining about how it's only six pages. Shaddup.
Lock Jaw
08-27-2018, 11:57 PM
oh no at jobbing Riott Squad to Bellas next week......
Anybody Thrilla
08-27-2018, 11:58 PM
I've only dosed off three times during Raw tonight. Not bad.
Anybody Thrilla
08-27-2018, 11:58 PM
oh no at jobbing Riott Squad to Bellas next week......
:'(:'(:'(
Dark One
08-27-2018, 11:59 PM
At least they're promoting shit for the following week for once.
That said, I'm sure at least one of them won't actually happen.
Oh right, it's Labor Day. That explains it.
Lock Jaw
08-28-2018, 12:04 AM
Came in here to make a post/comment, but forgot what I wanted to post......
I'm just going to call it Stroman leaves Roman to take a beating from Dolph and Drew McIntyre cuz he hasn't forgotten about being jumped
Lock Jaw
08-28-2018, 12:07 AM
This wasn't the comment, but:
What if since Braun gave Corbin the briefcase, Corbin just brings it out and tries to use it himself before Hell in a Cell, and fails at his attempt (again).
Emperor Smeat
08-28-2018, 12:11 AM
For someone who's Mania storyline was that he hated tag team wrestling, Strowman has been in a ton of tag matches since then.
Lock Jaw
08-28-2018, 12:11 AM
Braun Strowman heel turn!
Dark One
08-28-2018, 12:12 AM
Making Strowman backstab Roman and help murder him may not be an effective way to turn him heel.
Lock Jaw
08-28-2018, 12:13 AM
Ambrose not wearing his tactical gear, and Rollins not wearing his pouches, so The Shield is ineffective
Emperor Smeat
08-28-2018, 12:13 AM
WWE is legit dumb as hell if they actually turn Braun heel instead of Reigns for their feud.
Last week with the Shield interfering should have been the first step towards a Reigns heel turn.
Emperor Smeat
08-28-2018, 12:14 AM
:lol: at the crowd cheering for Braun beating up Reigns.
LMAO trying to make stromam the bad guy after Roman did it first
this company lol
Anybody Thrilla
08-28-2018, 12:15 AM
I love how they're advertising The Purge. Definitely gonna watch.
Lock Jaw
08-28-2018, 12:16 AM
DAMN.
To top it all off, my DVR did not record Better Call Saul.... prob with all this random rebooting it did..... knew I should have watched it instead of RAW.....
Dark One
08-28-2018, 12:18 AM
LMAO trying to make stromam the bad guy after Roman did it first
this company lol
"That's not the story you were told." - Road Dogg
Dark One
08-28-2018, 12:19 AM
Hey guys remember that time Roman Reigns tried to murder Braun Strowman by locking him in the back of an ambulance and then slamming it into a trailer by reversing and going like 45MPH and he was still the face?
Good times.
Evil Vito
08-28-2018, 12:28 AM
https://deadhomersociety.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/theitchyscratchypoochieshow3_thumb.png
Hey guys remember that time Roman Reigns tried to murder Braun Strowman by locking him in the back of an ambulance and then slamming it into a trailer by reversing and going like 45MPH and he was still the face?
Good times.
, Vince McMahon: I got it make Braun strowman a heel that way the fans will be on Roman and The Shield side
Somebody with common sense: but sir that doesn't make any sense Braun strowman is popular and beloved bye a cross-section of the fandom he's funny and charismatic and likeable while he's destroying people it's everything we could have wanted
Vince McMahon: the fans don't like what they think they like I tell them what they like
Somebody with common sense:*sigh* yes sir
McMahon: good now let's talk about turning Becky Lynch heel so that everybody will love Charlotte
And make Asuka just disappear just so we can drive home who the real star of the women's division it is.
Lock Jaw
08-28-2018, 12:33 AM
Hey guys remember that time Roman Reigns tried to murder Braun Strowman by locking him in the back of an ambulance and then slamming it into a trailer by reversing and going like 45MPH and he was still the face?
Good times.
Member that time Braun Strowman tried to murder Roman Reigns with the stairs?
https://statics.sportskeeda.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/roman-reigns-braun-strowman-raw-1490805569-800.jpg
Tom Guycott
08-28-2018, 12:39 AM
This thread about 30 posters in it when RAW started
It now has 5
But, to be fair, I was never actually watching RAW.
A.J.K
08-28-2018, 12:47 AM
I can't even bring myself to watch raw live anymore.
Tom Guycott
08-28-2018, 12:52 AM
So, did the voice impersonator cherry pie himself yet so Vince could find a way to make the gasps from the gunshot sound like cheers for Roman?
Dark One
08-28-2018, 12:58 AM
I definitely do not recall that.
RAW made me want to drink bleach tonight
xrodmuc316
08-28-2018, 01:10 AM
I love a good heel turn, but holy going against the grain.
I gotta say I am most displeased with this from Drew McIntyre's perspective.
Talk about making him seem irrelevant.
He can't be that muscle of the group if Strowman is there. He is now suddenly just there playing 2nd fiddle to Braun in power, 2nd to Dolph in workrate, and now likely stuck as a placeholder in 6 man matches for the foreseeable future.
Just when I think WWE has topped their own out of touchness and lack of logic (Becky Lynch) they go and teach me a lesson on a whole other level lol.
Dark One
08-28-2018, 01:28 AM
The only people in WWE who actively get heat any more are the writers.
Tom Guycott
08-28-2018, 02:47 AM
The only people in WWE who actively get heat any more are the writers.
Cosign'd.
I hate the notion the company has taken that they are not a wrestling production, but a dramatic television show. They actively fuck up what got them to where they are in the first place.
I fell asleep right at the end of RAW
They had Strowman 'turn heel'?
ahahahahahaahahahahahahaahahahhaahahahahahahhaahhahaahahha
Sigh.
https://i.imgur.com/bttp4Mo.jpg
Mr. Nerfect
08-28-2018, 03:19 AM
Hahahahahahahahaha!
Mr. Nerfect
08-28-2018, 03:21 AM
Don't worry, Braun will turn on Drew and Dolph when they lose a six-man or something. No one is really a heel in this company anyway. But it's hilarious anyway. They really don't give a shit and understand how drama works.
Mr. Nerfect
08-28-2018, 03:22 AM
Why do people still give this company money? Stop it. Stop it right now.
Anybody Thrilla
08-28-2018, 03:41 AM
Raw is just one show. Not a lot on earth compares to NXT alone. I still enjoy Smackdown and 205 greatly, too. The Network is a lot of fun for looking back, too. Or uncovering things I missed.
Big Vic
08-28-2018, 09:07 AM
Can't wait for Smackdown tonight when Daniel Bryan turns heel.
lol Vic
Also echoing what ABT said. 205Live, SDLive and NXT are good (mostly), it's really just RAW that's the pits.
Innovator
08-28-2018, 10:55 AM
RAW is horrendous to get through most weeks, but after Smackdown and NXT you usually leave the week upbeat and positive. Then the cycle continues.
Big Vic
08-28-2018, 11:05 AM
The Braun thing wasn't that bad, hopefully they won't paint him as heel (they will).
Innovator
08-28-2018, 11:10 AM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">People will take this way too seriously and get way too upset but the Braun turn yesterday and the Becky heel/face confusion is why on the VOW Flagship we don't bother breaking down WWE booking anymore. <br><br>Nothing matters. The build is worthless. Things just happen. -Rich</p>— Voices of Wrestling (@voiceswrestling) <a href="https://twitter.com/voiceswrestling/status/1034438469043535872?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 28, 2018</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I'd quit too if I damn near killed myself for months to get a guy over as a babyface only for them to turn him heel.</p>— Bryan Alvarez (@bryanalvarez) <a href="https://twitter.com/bryanalvarez/status/1034315724376821760?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 28, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Loose Cannon
08-28-2018, 11:30 AM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">People will take this way too seriously and get way too upset but the Braun turn yesterday and the Becky heel/face confusion is why on the VOW Flagship we don't bother breaking down WWE booking anymore. <br><br>Nothing matters. The build is worthless. Things just happen. -Rich</p>— Voices of Wrestling (@voiceswrestling) <a href="https://twitter.com/voiceswrestling/status/1034438469043535872?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 28, 2018</a></blockquote>
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it's so true. there's really no thought put into anything.
they obviously said ok we have the shield back together. we need a foil. hmmm, who can we use? i guess dolph and drew are midly over and were feuding with seth. put them in. we need a 3rd. well Braun and Roman are feuding. so just put him with Dolph and Drew. we can to 3 man tags for the next 2 months. next...
this probably took 5 minutes and that's really all they were probably going to give it. the days of episodic tv are long gone.
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Big Vic
08-28-2018, 11:48 AM
The sky isn't falling, McZiggy and Braun have common enemies so this is natural.
while I could have done without the hand raise at the end start complaining when they actually turn Braun heel.
It's kind of odd because in some ways there aren't heels/faces anymore and in some ways they are definitive heels/faces. It's sort of a transitional creative time in that sense where they are still figuring things out and it makes for some muddy stuff creatively.
Anybody Thrilla
08-28-2018, 02:32 PM
Braun never really did anything to make him a face anyway. He just started getting cheered. Even the MMC stuff was still with a heel Alexa Bliss, as endearing as it was.
Shisen Kopf
08-28-2018, 02:38 PM
What about his "feud" with Elias. He was clearly booked as the face in that. Playing a Cello like a guitar? Thats some goofy mick foley type shit
Big Vic
08-28-2018, 02:55 PM
Braun never really did anything to make him a face anyway. He just started getting cheered. Even the MMC stuff was still with a heel Alexa Bliss, as endearing as it was.
Those are the best turns
Anybody Thrilla
08-28-2018, 03:10 PM
All I'm saying is that what he did last night wasn't that out of character. The hand raising was too much, but it was fine until then.
Also, is Elias even a heel?
I figure Braun will 100% turn on Dolph/Drew the second the match ends at Super Show-Down
Big Vic
08-28-2018, 05:04 PM
I think Braun will turn on them at one of the other 3 PPVs WWE is promoting.
Anybody Thrilla
08-28-2018, 05:06 PM
Evolution?
Anybody Thrilla
08-28-2018, 05:06 PM
Turns out he was Braun Strowoman the whole time.
Anybody Thrilla
08-28-2018, 05:07 PM
Maybe he'll turn back and forth at EACH PPV. That would be compelling.
Big Vic
08-28-2018, 05:11 PM
Braun: "I... identify... AS FEMALE!"
*Literally rips Brie Bella in half then consumes her*
*Sports Illustrated calls her (Braun) brave. Gets a sexy cover on Vanity Fair*
Anybody Thrilla
08-28-2018, 05:13 PM
"GET THESE FRESHLY MANICURED HANDS!!!"
Damn, that might be the publicity they desperately crave.
Braun never really did anything to make him a face anyway. He just started getting cheered. Even the MMC stuff was still with a heel Alexa Bliss, as endearing as it was.
Nicholas
Jordan
08-28-2018, 07:17 PM
I’m looking forward to whatever happens with KO.
Anybody Thrilla
08-28-2018, 07:56 PM
Nicholas
Making a mockery of the entire tag division is not very baby face.
Making a mockery of the entire tag division is not very baby face.
B Team wins at that :p
Maluco
08-28-2018, 09:28 PM
I get people who watch NXT if it's entertaining, but at the end of the day, it is a feeder. All those guys will just go on to bounce around into nothingness with no direction and no cohesion.
It sucks, but while people pay for the network to watch the feeder fed and old shows, they have no reason to change their ways and revamp things.
That's the catch 22 of how great the network deal is. I cancelled it long ago, but I understand those who keep it and enjoy other shows. Will never help this shit get any better though until they feel it in their pockets
Anybody Thrilla
08-29-2018, 04:36 AM
I don't pay any extra for Monday Night Raw than what I already do between the Network and cable. Raw is just one show. As far as NXT? Feeder whatever. People actually enjoy their kids, even on the off chance that they grow into shitty adults. You'd pay ten bucks for the photo album of yesteryear though, yeah?
Anybody Thrilla
08-29-2018, 04:39 AM
And it's not IF NXT is entertaining. NXT IS VERY entertaining. Almost worth the price of the Network in and of itself. If anything, if I'm obligated to 'help' anything, I could stop watching Raw. But I don't want to. Out of both habit and a morbid curiosity. On WWE as a whole...things would have to suck all the way across the board to the point where I don't even want the memories of when it was good anymore nor the prospect of a 'youthful exuberance'. I'm not going anywhere.
And I guess that's why they're rich. But I'm still having a good time over here.
Anybody Thrilla
08-29-2018, 04:45 AM
B Team wins at that :p
Fair point, but the transparent decline on the Raw tag side started with Nicholas. The Bar were at least credible at the time.
Maluco
08-29-2018, 08:24 AM
I don't pay any extra for Monday Night Raw than what I already do between the Network and cable. Raw is just one show. As far as NXT? Feeder whatever. People actually enjoy their kids, even on the off chance that they grow into shitty adults. You'd pay ten bucks for the photo album of yesteryear though, yeah?
Fair analogy, but I would argue that the stuff that goes on down there (ex. titles) are meaningless, as it's just a training camp. There is no real prestige or stakes because it's all just a build for experience on the main roster. Enjoying the match quality and stories is cool and all, but it counts for nothing long term. Couple that with the fact that they can't seem to build their own "homemade" stars (ie the whole point of NXT) and it makes it hollow imo
Someone will come and say "but titles on the main roster mean nothing nowadays too" and I know that, but it shouldn't be the case as is one of the many things that are wrong with RAW
I totally get why people enjoy it though and the network is an awesome deal. It just pains me because I have watched WWF since I was 6-7 years old, consistently, but just can't stomach it nowadays. Even the lows of the new generation were much better that this and with no PPV to sell and no competition, it's only going to get worse.
Anybody Thrilla
08-29-2018, 06:14 PM
I understand what you're saying, but you've got to consider Samoa Joe, Finn Balor, Elias, the entire womens division...more recently Drew McIntyre, Andrade Almas...people of that ilk, being handled just fine on the main roster. There's always a sliver of hope.
Mr. Nerfect
08-30-2018, 03:57 AM
All I'm saying is that what he did last night wasn't that out of character. The hand raising was too much, but it was fine until then.
Also, is Elias even a heel?
It's out of the character people want. It doesn't matter if Braun was once a sheep, if he put a black mask on and started following Bray around as a peon again, people would be pissed.
Also, Braun has wanted to "fight everybody" for a long time. That was his face turn. "Fuck the heels, I don't need no help." Now he wants back-up because he needs it.
I figure Braun will 100% turn on Dolph/Drew the second the match ends at Super Show-Down
Probably. I honestly don't know anyone in Australia who watches anymore. My dad had a friend from work who went to a show maybe a year or two back and said "It was boring." Super casual fan. That is the last contact I had. I bring this up because I have no clue how the Australian crowd is going to react. I imagine it'll be all smarks, but not as "clued on." But I can imagine them shitting on this six-man for some reason. Fucking with Braun feels very "un-Australian" and that's a good way to get some resentment. Like, how are families and casuals supposed to react to this too?
I get people who watch NXT if it's entertaining, but at the end of the day, it is a feeder. All those guys will just go on to bounce around into nothingness with no direction and no cohesion.
It sucks, but while people pay for the network to watch the feeder fed and old shows, they have no reason to change their ways and revamp things.
That's the catch 22 of how great the network deal is. I cancelled it long ago, but I understand those who keep it and enjoy other shows. Will never help this shit get any better though until they feel it in their pockets
I only cancelled mine last year, so I can't really get too indignant. I just think that anyone that expects anyone in NXT to be handled in a way that doesn't make them, at best, a guilty pleasure on the main roster is kidding themselves. You know the end game. NXT, itself, doesn't matter.
And it's not IF NXT is entertaining. NXT IS VERY entertaining. Almost worth the price of the Network in and of itself. If anything, if I'm obligated to 'help' anything, I could stop watching Raw. But I don't want to. Out of both habit and a morbid curiosity. On WWE as a whole...things would have to suck all the way across the board to the point where I don't even want the memories of when it was good anymore nor the prospect of a 'youthful exuberance'. I'm not going anywhere.
And I guess that's why they're rich. But I'm still having a good time over here.
I lost interest in the weekly television show before I even kept watching PPVs, I think. The Takeovers are usually excellent. Maybe the TV has picked back up? I thought it was pretty standard episodic wrestling, which I can understand being refreshing, but I don't know how super-entertaining it is, especially with the glaring problem of NXT looming overheard (everyone you care about is going to end up on the main roster).
But if you're enjoying it, fine. Good for you. I just can't in good conscience give this company my money and validate their directionless product. NXT filters into Raw and SmackDown, which is just stirred diarrhea constantly.
I think one of the blessings of NXT is that talent cycles through. You can tune in 6 months down the line and there’s been a big shuffle of the card. Go 6 months without watching Raw and things are mostly the same.
Mr. Nerfect
09-03-2018, 08:39 AM
There's truth to that, but I think my issue with NXT is that it feels like the same person even though it's not. It's like the latest indy darling shows up and wins the NXT Title, they cry, they lose the belt, everyone hugs, next.
Anybody Thrilla
09-03-2018, 05:44 PM
Ciampa and Gargano aren't exactly hugging.
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