Dragon Quest 11

[Destor]

Any hype on TPWW for this? Drops next Tuesday.

[Ultra Mantis]

I have never played a mainline Dragon Quest, but I have heard good things about them. Not really top level "hype" because I know absolutely nothing about the franchise and especially this particular entry, but I was interested enough to put it on my amazon wishlist in May. I have my eye on it.

[Destor]

I preordered it. Friend who lives in JPN said this was a top of the line series there so I'll def be playing soonish. Prob around early winter.

[Ultra Mantis]

Yeah, currently have Nier Automata, Ni No Kuni 2, Witcher 3, Nioh, Breath of the Wild and Persona 5 NG+ queued up so that might be my 2018 schedule filled.

I've definitely heard it mentioned as the top JRPG series but I think only one of them was ever released on home console outside of Japan before this. I know there have been DS ports but I'm not much of a handheld guy.

Seph said he was looking forward to this one more than Octopath so going to assume he will be all over this if he ever made it through the gate.

[Destor]

I feel like he was consumed never to be seen again :'(

[Ultra Mantis]

Seph's business trip was actually touring with a troupe of travelling actors in a quest to track down his missing father :'(

[Destor]

Lyblac wins again :(

[Destor]

Forgot i made this.

Veronica is the sassiest character of all time and i love her.

Game is painfully easy though.

[Fignuts]

When I was 5 or 6 years old, one of the first games I got for the NES was Dragon Warrior. It turned me of so much, I didn't play another RPG again until Final Fantasy 7.

[Destor]

Yeah early rpgs werent the best. FF2 and FF3 are some of the worst games ever made.

[Fignuts]

FF1 was really great for it's time. Still fun to run through it today. Prefer the GBA version though. Some great sprite art there. Specifically for the four fiends.

[Fignuts]

Also, I wouldn't say FF3 was bad. Hard as balls, and has issues that certainly don't make it any easier, but I wouldn't put it in the same group as FF2.

That said, you couldn't pay me to go through that final dungeon again.

[Fignuts]

Also, ff3 had this

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[Destor]

Ff1 totally holds up

[OssMan]

When I was 5 or 6 years old, one of the first games I got for the NES was Dragon Warrior. It turned me of so much, I didn't play another RPG again until Final Fantasy 7.
Same, I've been turned off Dragon Quest since the first one. Might give this a shot though

[Tom Guycott]

When I was 5 or 6 years old, one of the first games I got for the NES was Dragon Warrior. It turned me of so much, I didn't play another RPG again until Final Fantasy 7.

Opposite. I liked the mechanic being drastically different than "jump on this guy" or "run right and shoot". Even hybrid games like Crystalis, though one of my favorites, didn't quite scratch that turn-based itch. Final Fantasy and the NES port of Ultima Exodus easily ate at least one school year's worth of free time (until my dad got a lucky break in Ultima, which soured me on that game for a long while. He still thinks it's funny I got pissed).

However, I could have easily been on the same boat as you if Hydlide was my first one, which it almost was.

[Destor]

Turn based games was something I didnt enjoy initially but now its all I want to play.

[Sepholio]

Forgot i made this.

Veronica is the sassiest character of all time and i love her.

Game is painfully easy though.

Yeah it is, outside of a couple boss fights. I've read that if you like a challenge you should play it on hard. It seems that difficulty is tuned to what most people like us actually want. That would have been useful information before we started though, wouldn't it?

I've also read a little bit about these "draconian" settings that you can enable on subsequent playthroughs that really seem like they could make this game incredibly hard.

And yes Veronica is such a bitch and I love her as well. I also enjoy Sylvando because they went over the top with him. He's so flamboyant and his voice actor nails the role. I always get a good laugh from scenes he has a good amount of involvement in.

[Sepholio]

How far in are you Destor?

[OssMan]

Turn based games are something I grew up loving and now shrug at because the elements I like about them have mostly been swept aside.

[Sepholio]

That's why I particularly like the DQ games. They held onto the old school elements. This game would feel right at home in the 90's other than the fact it's prettier than those games.

[Destor]

@Seph

I just finished the MMA tourney

And yeah DQ11 is a classic JRPG in every sense. Really enjoyable. I was wish i had set the difficulty higher but the story and characters totally hold my attention. Im doing less encounters to keep my level low and its making for a better time

[Destor]

And Veronica is seriously one of my fav characters ever. I adore her so much

[Sepholio]

@Seph

I just finished the MMA tourney

And yeah DQ11 is a classic JRPG in every sense. Really enjoyable. I was wish i had set the difficulty higher but the story and characters totally hold my attention. Im doing less encounters to keep my level low and its making for a better time

This is exactly what I did. I was grinding a little at first, now I just coast. When I go through an area I might fight one battle against each diff enemy type on the overworld. Now I occasionally run into stronger enemies that can be a bit troublesome and the bosses actually seem threatening. There are a couple that legit whooped me a few times. Then theres been some where it was a skin of my teeth win, out of MP and items and people dead and just manage to pull it off.

[Sepholio]

Man I cant wait for you to catch up a bit to where I'm at. There's this story event I want to talk about but obviously would be spoiling it for you. You'll know when it happens though. It's such a rare story beat for an RPG to take and they have some big shoes to fill in regards to the previous games that tried it.

[Destor]

Im slow going. 20 hrs in and its taken me a few weeks.

[Sepholio]

Indeed. I learned a valuable trick last night that may help you in your adventure. I'm sure you see how the skill unlock board works by now....but I found out that you can buy a bunch of panels to unlock some distant panel on the board, then refund all the points you spent to get to it at a priest while keeping the ability you wanted :o

[Destor]

Ive actually used that already! Plan to again when I switch from Great swords to dual wielding later

[Sepholio]

Act 2 is kinda strange in that the story is more free form. There is an order it should be done in and a little gating at times to stop you from going to certain places, but if you make it to somewhere that has a part in the story it will trigger the scenes and let you do it even if you havent done everything before it yet. It doesnt ryin anything as these situations are kind of independent from one another, but still, its odd.

I happened upon a boss a couple days ago thinking it was side content. It wrecked me though so I eventually left. Come to find out later that its actually a story boss from much later on and gives you an item you need. However if I had happened to already do it I could just progress immediately. Kinda strange to see that in an old school jrpg. But yeah, just know, if you run into something stupid hard just go elsewhere and progress other bits of the story first.

[Destor]

Is "act 2" collecting the spheres? Im past that if so

[Sepholio]

Nay. Act 2 starts after an extremely major plot event. You aren't there yet but you'll know. How many spheres do you have?

[Destor]

I didnt wanna spoil but im immediately after that. Back in Cobblestone.

[Destor]

ftr I think turning in the spheres and the Yggrasil is the close of act 2 tho...

[Sepholio]

The acts are broken up by when they make sidequests available, best I can tell. Before Yggdrasil the list only has 26, afterwards it changes and goes up to 47, and after another event later on it will go up again.

[Destor]

but writing structure dictates that

act 1: positive. Act 2: positive Act 3: negative = Tragedy

act 1: positive. Act 2: negative Act 3: positive = comedy (literary sense)



So based off the events of Yggdrasil I have to say that that was the conclusion of act 2.

[Destor]

This game keeps getting better by large amounts

[Sepholio]

Yeah I for sure enjoy it. Especially some of the stuff the second tier skills some characters have lets you do.

[Sepholio]

I have finally reached a boss I can't beat either. Well, I could, but only a couple people will survive and I want that experience haha. Gotta grind I spose. Getting close to the end I think, regardless.

[Sepholio]

Grinding is super easy though with the electro-light and hallelujah pep powers.

[Destor]

The story and the characters have really grown on me and being underleveled has made the game more tactical. Im 55ish hours in and its so good. Still wish it was tougher but its good all the same.

[Destor]

Lvl40 or so

[Destor]

Major Aboria 2 spoiler

Veronica :'(

[Destor]

Major end game spoiler

VERONICA :love:

[Destor]

Veronica :mad:

[Sepholio]

LOLOL I was waiting for you to get there.

[Destor]

Just beat it. Im aware there's story post game content so im gonna wrap that up before i move on to the next game.

Really enjoying this.

[Sepholio]

Yeah its pretty great. I just wish it had the monster battle arena from part 8. That was the mostest amount of fun.

[Destor]

There's an arena in Angri-La. Prob not the same but its fun

[Sepholio]

Nowhere near the same lol. In 8 you could capture any monster in the game. They were all ranked and had stats, you could hold a set number in your group at any time, and you use your collected monstwrs to create teams of 3. You then pit your team against other teams of monsters in the arena. It is AI controlled, so you have to worry about monster moves and stats and how well they work together. Was good stuff.

If I caught a brickman, a stoneman and a goldman and put them on a team together, for instance, they go completely off the rails and fuse together into a giant super monster named mazer. Little,touches like that made it epic.

[Destor]

Post game is 100% worth it. Mind boggling that it was post game tbh.

[Destor]

Reflecting on this game. It was very very good.

[Destor]

Final fight i was a tad over leveled for and it still had me nervous a 3 or 4 times.

[Destor]

Didnt bother with completion but true ending is a lot like octopath and persona 4. You haven't closed the story out if you dont do true ending. Its a must.

[Sepholio]

Yeah I'm trying to tie up a couple more things in the post game then I am done. I love the set up for it though. And it definitely seems like it should have been part of the main story considering they alluded to it during the main game.

[Destor]

The reality is the first credits are a part of the story. Thats some of the games brilliance.

its basically a gag that the "post game" is post game. Roll credits. Go back in time. FInish the game. True credits roll. Fucking brilliant

[Sepholio]

Man if you ever decide to revisit this game some of the events in the post game are excellent. There are a number of untracked/unmarked quests, usually revolving around going back to visit people who you did things for in the second part of the story. It's amazing how fate finds a way to bring people together anyways even if circumstances are completely different.

There are also a series of extremely tough bosses at the end of the various trials in the "bonus" dungeon. I wouldn't say they are true super bosses, but each one is far tougher than anything you've faced before them other than I am assuming the last boss. Although the last 2 bosses in the sequence are tougher than that, I'm sure. Completing all the challenges at angri-la is also pretty hard, I'm trying the last one atm and it is brutal. There is honestly quite a lot to do post game and most of it is pretty good stuff.

[Destor]

I finished the bonus dungeon. Not half as hard as the true boss imo

[Destor]

I finished at lvl 85

[Sepholio]

Ah indeed. I chose not to chase levels to maintain a challenge. I level up if I absolute have to lol. I haven't beaten the 4th boss in the bonus dungeon yet myself. My equipment game is a bit slack for this point for my level though lol, need to upgrade a few more things.

[Destor]

I didnt start leveling until I was prepping for the final boss. I was told minimun was 65 but that was brutally hard. &0 was "fair enough."

Once I got into post game I started an XP farm strat but didnt go out of my way for it.

Ran Slyvando, Eric and Jade with the Hero.

Once any got pepped I would tag them out.

Once Eric Jade and hero got pepped cast Hallelujah

Then get Sylvando pepped and jade re-pepped in the same battle

Hero had the skill that let him enter pep at will

Cast Electro light and tag eric back in if he isnt already

Use Critical claim with Eric and Thunder Thrust with jade

Profit

Then get them all back in your party and continue on until Eric and Jade are pepped at the same time again, then repeat

[Destor]

allowed me to use the post game to reach a level that could do the final boss with out bashing my head against the wall.

He still took some thought and strategy but not rage inducing.

[Destor]

I went into the post game at 45 or so.

[Sepholio]

Yea, I was maybe a couple levels higher than that when I went into post game. I'm around 65ish now. Have only done the electro-light trick that you are talking about a couple times so far, just when the conditions were met organically during a battle.

Erik becomes extremely OP at higher levels. Divide is sick. Cobra Strike>Divide>Victimizer or Divide>Critical Claim. Hell, dual wielding boomerangs, divide>twomerang. LOL he is just a dastardly bastard in the late game.

[Destor]

He wasnt in my final party because Veronica and Hero were my DPS but yeah he's very OP

[Ruien]

5 hours in so far. Lovely story. Combat is simple but I guess it could become more complex the farther I get into the game. The 3 additional characters I have so far all play their part perfectly too.

Great game so far.

[Ruien]

Loved it so much that Veronica only gave a shit about her magic and not about looking like a kid. So wonderful. She just wants to burn fuckers down.

[Ruien]

Have my full party now. Everyone is about level 26. Combat seems easy still but my last boss fight was a slight slight slight intimidating during combat. One of my party members almost died once. Was against some huge squid on the boat.

Wish there was a level recommendation so I would know if I am over leveled.

[Ruien]

Into Act 2. Hendrick acting like a bitch. Hes not even going to apologize huh. Asshole.

Only have like 2 days left before I can't play again for a month. :'(

[Ruien]

In the battle outside Cobblestone there was a soldier who was like 'Thes3 monsters are tough. If you need help go to the healing spring' or some crap like that. The monsters were hitting me for a whopping like 2 to 10 hp lol.

[Ruien]

Hendricks is the worst character by far. So 1 dimensional and boring. Usually I love the knight type of person like Olderic or whatever his name was in OCTOPATH (He was my favorite). But arg. Gtfo Hendrik.

[Ruien]

OH WTF. THEY KILLED OFF VERONICA AND GAVE ME THIS FUCKING HENRICKS GUY. Fuck this game.

[Ruien]

Well, tried to beat this game in 2 weeks. Didnt happen. Guesss I will pick it up again next month :(.

God I became so hooked over the past 3 days too.

[Ruien]

Finished the game. 10 out of 10. Pretty sure 8 over leveled since the last boss fight was fairly east but whatever. Still an amazing game. Loved everything about it.

Thinking about going back and playing some other dragonquest games now.

[Destor]

This thread needs more posts Mantis :mad:

[Ultra Mantis]

I know but Ruien didn't mark his spoilers and I read them earlier in the year, while it's been long enough for me to forget the specifics I don't want to read it again by accident when I'm ranting about bullshit bosses :'(

[Destor]

Hmmmm...lemme see if i can fix this

[Destor]

Fixed

[Ruien]

Sorry :(

[Ultra Mantis]

Nice one, Destor.

It's okay Ruien, I didnt know any of the characters names when I read it so I didnt retain some of the vital information. I guess it was really only half spoiled for me.

[Ultra Mantis]

While I'm here though, I am getting so annoyed with those little owl ghosts being absocutely everywhere I turn. What are you!? Why are you so adorable!?

I hope they give me some info on those things soon, they're driving me nuts.

[Destor]

I like when theyre just sitting on a bench chilling. Being cute.

[Ultra Mantis]

I'm half expecting it to turn out that it's just been the same one following me around everywhere and it's actually the dark spawn that will destroy everything. But then I wont even be mad at it because it's so adorable.

[Ultra Mantis]

Yggdrasil

Damn, things went full World of Ruin. Kefkaesque. I died at the next boss because I got mob focused and was struggling to manage my MP. It's not a particularly hard boss... but I'd spent 20 minutes beating every mob on the battlefield beforehand. Decided to invest all my returned points into attack boosts and smashed him easily.

Still dont trust the King, that dudes eyes are legitimately untrustworthy.

I hope Jade comes back soon. And where did the owls go!?!?!?!

[Ultra Mantis]

I guess the owls were only missing for that one location because they are EVERYWHERE again. What are you??? How can I understand you???

[Sepholio]

Do you mean the little blue guys or whatever? You'll see them walking sometimes and they disappear occasionally?

[Ultra Mantis]

Yeah, same things as the little guy who was the focus of the opening movie.

[Sepholio]

ah, well, nothing spoiler related, but if you follow the ones that walk around and disappear a lot of times they are trying to lead you in the direction of a treasure or something. The ones that are just sitting in places are often times very near treasure as well.

[Ultra Mantis]

Oh cool, I thought they were just stalking the Luminary :lol:

Another thing I like is that some (maybe all? I'm not sure) monster's have overkill death animations and I love all the detail they've put into the game. The Cruelcumber type enemies fall back and accidently impale themselves with their own spears, it's so extra it brings a smile to my face every single time.

[Destor]

The kill animations are so stinking cute. Game has so much charm

[Ultra Mantis]

Eric's act 2 boss squashed me in three turns so I decided to go exploring. Stumbled upon a very interesting scene in Gallopolis. I know I'm not supposed to be here yet but...

Gublet saw a Solid Ghost Owl on Rab's head and its purple and has tentacles and you can see its heart and I am close to answers!

Guess I'll see if I can find some Liquid Metals and get back on the path as quick as I can.

[Sepholio]

Spoiler tag because I'm not sure who all you have in your party r/n, can't remember if you have everyone at the point you are at. But it's in reference to a tactic for metal slime farming.

Put Hero, Jade, Sylvando and Rab in your party. Have all at full pep. Start battle. Have Hero/Jade/Sylvando cast the triple pep power "electro light". Will replace all enemies on the field with various metal slimes. If you luck up and get a King variant, use Rab and use pep power Dirge of Dundrasil, which guarantees it goes to sleep. In lieu of Rab you can also use Erik and Critical Claim ability to insta-kill one of the slimes. You know what to do from there.

[Ultra Mantis]

I'm missing two but I have all those guys. Oh nice, I forgot all about that pep ability, used it once by chance in act 1 to see what it did and was like "oh that's really useful".

[Destor]

If youre pep xp farming once someone becomes pepped that you need to cast a pep skill just tag them out until all characters needed are pepped and ready

[Ultra Mantis]

Oh yeah, I found that one out the hard way when Dora went 10-0 on me. Might still need a little bit of luck though since I dont have the full set of reserves. I know Hero has a pep on demand spell for himself so I guess I can always respec him if I have to.

Is Electro Light better to cast on large groups of enemies? Does the level of what you use it against factor in, or is it all just RNG?

[Destor]

Your level determines the level of the slime...no clue about how many though...

[Ultra Mantis]

Yeah It seemed to give me one Vicious Liquid and 2 Vicious Metals no matter what I used it on, apart from when it failed and sent out shitty robots.

Arboria 2nd Visit:


Damn, I mean I accidentally read the spoiler and I knew somebody was dying at some point but she doesn't even get to rejoin the party? Cold. At least Serena is sort of useful now I guess? And she's doing the old Princess Garnet dramatic knife haircut gimmick. It kind of clicked for me that it would be Veronica not only after the weird conversation about dying she had with Serena at the end of act 1, but when Memory Loss Eric is being all apologetic Sylv straight up says "If Veronica could see this she would DIE". Hilariously blunt.

I'm actually expecting Veronica to somehow come back, if only because she's in the opening video in her adult body. Maybe part of her soul is still trapped in a jar somewhere. Wouldn't surprise me if she made a Horcrux :shifty:

So then we get a Giant whale airship and go meet a Tellytubby in a floating temple and this game is so weird it's great. I went exploring and found as island FULL of owl ghosts, kinda spooky but also kind of the best location in the game. Gonna hurry over to Gallopolis and see how that little thread pans out.

Also met a bard called Luter Van Boss :lol:

[Destor]

Veronica :'(

[Ultra Mantis]

They hit all the beats just right on that death though, completely unexpected and not just done for shock value, at a point where you're so happy to finally have everyone back. If Serena had died I don't think it would have had as much impact either, Veronica left a big impression.

Gallopolis / Hotto was super short (and gave me even more questions about my ghostly owl boys) so I've been fighting my way up to Mordegon. One Winged Jaspar is a real motherfucker, going to have to grind out a few more levels I think and maybe get some better gear. Currently have Gublet (Hero) 55, Everyone else 54-53, Serena 51. Sylv's usefulness has really dropped off for me, which is a shame. He's a status & buffs master but he's not really got anything in his kit useful enough to keep his spot over Serena. Erik's really strong for like one hit every fight and Henrik's dps is tragic. Need to get the Omni Heal (I think?) skill for Luminary and figure out some dark mitigation at the very least.

I'm been using Greatswords instead of swords though since the very first Heliodor sequence. Is Sword of Light worth a respec for these last battles, or is it better to use it as an item?

[Destor]

I used great swords from start to finish. Cant really say. Serena is def MVP for the most part. Veronica was my AoE dps though. What a nuker that one was. Rapp is a poor substitute but i will say tagging your party in and on mid battle does make sylvando much more useful.

[Ultra Mantis]

115 hrs, Lv66, Harder monsters mode CLEARED. But it's not over yet... so many unanswered questions and the thing I love about this being an old school RPG is that I know they're not DLC or sequel bait.

The locked doors everywhere, that weird evil medallion in the ruins if Zwaarthurst (sp?), what was Erdicks Lantern?, the sapling ygdrasil roots, the books Gublet was not "ready" to read. Most important of all, what are those goddamn adorable owl ghost creatures up to!?!?!

[Ultra Mantis]

BONUS Big Boss rant


I had such a rough time with Mordegon, I really did. He's not as bad as Dora-In-Grey for cheapness, but the fight is SO long that when you lose it really hurts.

First attempt I was LV58 and lasted a long time, mostly just tying to heal and buff / debuff. I was getting no DPS in and eventually ran out of MP. Figured I needed to keep him dazzled because his multi-hit physical attack can wipe out the entire party just like that, especially with his clone up. I tried again immediately and had the same problem, dazzle never seemed to land, the buffs his clone was casting on him meant Jade was doing barely any DPS, I'm constantly using two characters to heal. Another dragged out defeat due to running out of MP.

At this point I realised I needed to level, specifically I needed to unlock a move to get rid of his buffs (Rab and Sylv both had one that I knew about) and I needed some Sage's Elixers to solve my MP problems. I went straight to the casino in Octagonia, because there was a Roulette jackpot quest there I wanted to work on anyway. I head straight to the high rollers, ask the bunny girl about the jackpot and she says somebody is going to win it soon. Cool. Went on the 200s table, bet 200 tokens on 17 and... won the fucking Jackpot on my first spin :rofl:

Did the Hallelujah + Electro Light trick twice and that took me up to LV66-62 with a good stock of Elixers and buff erasers unlocked. I switch Jade for Erik to exploit his DPS. Should be easy now right?

Same fucking slog. Every time I set up Erik and get ready to strike he either dies or gets his buff erased by the white orb move. This time I manage to beat the first form and get introduced to another, oh yeah that long ass battle was just the first half! Shit. I struggle through it, burning through Elixers and get both heads of this snake dragon skeleton fucker down to yellow when he hits me with "Bolt from the Blue" and wipes Gublet, Rab and Serena all in one. This is when I realise I don't actually have any Yggdrasil Leaves and can't resurrect anyone now. Boss is on yellow, maybe I can tough it out... Erik and Jade die on the next turn, then Sylv and I'm left with dumb old Henrik doing 36 damage a turn until he joins them. FUCK.

Try again. This time I barely make it four rounds when he does his multi-hit physical and KOs the wonderful combination of Hero, Rab and Serena. I hard quit out of the game at this point.

Two more attempts with Erik failed at the first stage, one where Erik never even got off an attack because he was either KOd, a gold statue or debuffed for the entire fight. At this point I'm like fuck Erik, at least Jade is going to be attacking every turn because she cant do anything else.

A lengthy fight followed, and rather than going back to the casino to buy some Yggdrasil Leaves like a rational person, I risked it. Jade turned out to be a much better DPS than Erik, I used hero to Quadra Slash constantly and if I got a free turn on Rab or Serena I used it to get rid of the clones. There was a rough moment near the end of phase two where Rab and Serena were both out of action (knocked down & paralysed) but I managed to drop the Dragon head during that turn, once that fell it was a gentle stroll to the finish line.

Eat shit Mordy.

[Destor]

That fight seems like one helliva time. Im keeping my mouth shut but i cant wait to hear you go through the "post game"

[Ultra Mantis]

It took me six hours to beat him. I'm not even exaggerating :lol:

[Destor]

Holy shit :lol:

[Ultra Mantis]

Those 36 damage desperation axe swings 40 mins into the fight were my favourite bit. I was just sat here like :|

[Ultra Mantis]

Found out what the owls are, kinda? They're observing lost timelines? They are the trapped souls of time travellers? They are something that's for sure. More owls please. Just not that purple one...

Err Time Travel and erasing the timeline though, why does nobody have a problem with that? I mean sure saving Veronica is awesome and all but I've been back 5 mins and now we've unleashed an eldritch horror, I've had to rescue my dads ghost from having his soul eaten by an even stronger motherfucker and who knows what else awful shit is happening. The MMA fighters have gone missing again. That spider is back isn't it. God damn it.

I got severe anxiety when my party dropped 30 levels haha, so relieved to get them back. Serena is useless again though. I immediately went looking for a grave in Zwaathrust because it was the only act 2 quest I didnt finish and that's when I discovered ghost dad was back. I think the cruelest twist is that Sylv's dad will probably never discover his burning passion for dance.

[Destor]

so youve discovered the best part of this game. This isnt post game content. Youve traveled back in time to BEFORE THE CREDIT ROLL. Its brilliant.

[Ultra Mantis]

Yeah I was expecting a few side quests and superbosses and instead I get another lap of the world. This is genuinely brilliant.

Those few moments with Carnelian totally not being possesed by Mordegon were painful though. Like come on hero, I know you can actually speak, clue your friends in. Tell them about that tentacle owl ghost that was crawling on their faces. Why are you like this?

[Destor]

That purple one is shady AF

[Ultra Mantis]

I'm level 70 and post game Octogania boss curb stomped me. I was worried I'd be over levelled :rofl: Going to try my luck elsewhere.

Even the MMA guys were tough, boomerang on that Golden Boy are insane. Spider is ridiculous, shoots the spines once and I'm practically dead already.

Purple one has so much personality, almost felt sorry for it back there.

:mad:

Also adult Veronica coming back for like ten seconds before she turns into a tree and now shes a kid again. What a ride shes having this hour.

[Ultra Mantis]

All the post game bosses were kicking my butt so I did the metal slime level trick, gained 7 levels at once (I'm around 91) and now I'm overpowered as fuck. Hopefully the ultra bosses still put up a bit if a fight.

All I have left:

Last two wheel of Harma fights, Battlegrounds boss, Drustans trials 2-5 and purple boy Calasmos.

Also, one of the secret wishes is to marry Gemma. Why on earth would I want to do that!? Also why am I wishing Serena gets a haircut. Why waste a wish on that when he could have wished for adult veronica? Or for Sylv to get a decent costume. Or a couple more Jades. Why cant I marry Jade she is totally down for the Luminary.

[Destor]

Jade needs the D

[Ultra Mantis]

She would get a pep up.

[Ultra Mantis]

Eventually got around to wrapping this one up.


I read in numerous places that the trial isle 5th boss was the hardest in the game. I got him in 40 turns on my second attempt. First attempt I wasn't prepared for him and he wiped me pretty easily but with kabuff and Hendrik doing his cover move the only danger was the time limit. Magic Burst Veronica and a load of Elfin Elixer's from the Casino seemed like it would be a cheap strategy but it seems like a requirement on hard mode.

There is really no point in crafting the strongest weapons since by the time you get the recipes there's only one boss left.

Calasmos was also a little bitch. He wiped me the first time because I didn't put the Sword of Light in my bag to break his barrier like the Teletubby said, but I'm so glad I did because HE SUMMONS THE EVIL LITTLE PURPLE OWLS AND THEY FLOP THEIR TENTACLES AROUND BEFORE THEY HELP HIM ONE SHOT YOU AND IT'S THE BEST. Second fight he never really did much, I didn't even Magic Burst him or use Erik. He also looked way cooler with the mask on.

I did not understand the ending at all, was worried Serenica was going to go back and time and make it so none of the game even happened and everything I'd done for the last 150 hours was pointless. Instead she just wanted to hold hands with Erdwin? Huh. Assuming all those other scenes were from the first game and it was an Easter egg since the credits had all that footage from previous instalments.


Pretty damn good game overall. It isn't my favourite JRPG this gen, but I had a great time with it and would definitely play more of these. Not sure I'd want to go back and play any of the older ones though. Maybe the PS2 one.

[Destor]

Ps2 3ds ones...if they come to the switch...im all in.

[Ultra Mantis]

Oh yeah for sure if they come to switch I'll pick up the DS games. I thought DQX looked cool too but then I found out was an MMO. Everything before, I wanna say 7, looked a little too old school for my ever increasing backlog.

[Destor]

Im def all in on DQ going forward though. They've lifetime day 1 sales from me.

[Ultra Mantis]

I want ghost owl merch. I'll buy anything with a ghost owl on it.

[Destor]

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[Ultra Mantis]

SOLD. Also who doesn't want a Cruelcumber keychain?

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/CfoAAOSwLN5WlexE/s-l500.jpg

[Destor]

Ha! Thats amazing