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Droford
09-01-2018, 09:07 PM
Jesus Christ

Evil Vito
09-01-2018, 09:07 PM
Jeeeeeeesus H Christ @ Rite of Passage off a ladder through a table

Emperor Smeat
09-01-2018, 09:07 PM
:eek:

Guess Hangman really wants to kill off all the Joey wrestlers in the world

slik
09-01-2018, 09:08 PM
WOAH

Droford
09-01-2018, 09:08 PM
Oh god

Emperor Smeat
09-01-2018, 09:08 PM
:lol: at the Joey Ryan video

Evil Vito
09-01-2018, 09:08 PM
LMFAO dick druids

Emperor Smeat
09-01-2018, 09:09 PM
OMG this is great

Droford
09-01-2018, 09:09 PM
:eek:

Guess Hangman really wants to kill off all the Joey wrestlers in the world

Good thing Jumpin Joey Maggs already died

Droford
09-01-2018, 09:09 PM
Res-erection

Emperor Smeat
09-01-2018, 09:10 PM
https://i.imgur.com/Djl6h.gif

Emperor Smeat
09-01-2018, 09:12 PM
Don't know what is more ridiculous, the test of dick strength or a bunch of dick druids just hanging around ringside.

Droford
09-01-2018, 09:13 PM
Rest in penis lol

slik
09-01-2018, 09:13 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">OMG Joey Ryan is spoofing Undertaker's entrance but instead of monks it's a bunch of giant penises <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ALLIN?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ALLIN</a> <a href="https://t.co/GYvJQOibhu">pic.twitter.com/GYvJQOibhu</a></p>&mdash; Kenton (@TheKentonLane) <a href="https://twitter.com/TheKentonLane/status/1036058891858194432?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 2, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Droford
09-01-2018, 09:14 PM
Black Machismo?

Droford
09-01-2018, 09:16 PM
That's fucking awesome

Evil Vito
09-01-2018, 09:16 PM
I dunno, I feel like Lanny Poffo should’ve been involved in the penis segment.

Jordan
09-01-2018, 09:16 PM
Omg this is so cool. Love Black Machismo.

Droford
09-01-2018, 09:22 PM
Lol if Flip wins

Droford
09-01-2018, 09:32 PM
Oh god

slik
09-01-2018, 09:33 PM
Flip is hulking up, brother jack

Droford
09-01-2018, 09:33 PM
I'm now imagining Hogan doing all that floppy shit

Droford
09-01-2018, 09:33 PM
I thought he had it

Jordan
09-01-2018, 09:35 PM
Wow that was really good.

Emperor Smeat
09-01-2018, 09:36 PM
ROH title match was pretty good overall.

Droford
09-01-2018, 09:36 PM
Bully!

slik
09-01-2018, 09:37 PM
Boooo Bubba

slik
09-01-2018, 09:43 PM
Last three matches all have big names from NJPW in 'em, sweeeeet

slik
09-01-2018, 09:43 PM
Some people probably seeing Okada, Ibushi, Young Bucks, Omega for the first time

Droford
09-01-2018, 09:46 PM
Some people probably seeing Okada, Ibushi, Young Bucks, Omega for the first time

I really doubt that

Evil Vito
09-01-2018, 09:46 PM
My body is ready for this

Emperor Smeat
09-01-2018, 09:47 PM
Pentagon's black & gold gear looks really cool.

Droford
09-01-2018, 09:58 PM
Dann omega dropped him on his neck

Droford
09-01-2018, 10:00 PM
God damn

Emperor Smeat
09-01-2018, 10:00 PM
:eek: at the package piledriver on the apron

Evil Vito
09-01-2018, 10:00 PM
Package piledriver on the apron. Fucking hell.

Droford
09-01-2018, 10:02 PM
Really killing the package piledriver

slik
09-01-2018, 10:03 PM
This is good

Evil Vito
09-01-2018, 10:04 PM
What a great match

Emperor Smeat
09-01-2018, 10:04 PM
Omega-Pentagon match was great

Droford
09-01-2018, 10:05 PM
Uhoh

Droford
09-01-2018, 10:06 PM
Jericho

Emperor Smeat
09-01-2018, 10:06 PM
:D Jericho

Evil Vito
09-01-2018, 10:06 PM
Jericho!!!

This fucking show!

slik
09-01-2018, 10:07 PM
Jericho!

Droford
09-01-2018, 10:08 PM
Haha

slik
09-01-2018, 10:10 PM
OKADDDDDDAAAAA

Droford
09-01-2018, 10:12 PM
Got my Villain Club shirt on

Jordan
09-01-2018, 10:12 PM
I fell asleep during Omega/Penta

Jordan
09-01-2018, 10:13 PM
Jericho was a nice touch! Thought it was gonna be Punk lol.

Emperor Smeat
09-01-2018, 10:15 PM
Guess Balloon Boy Okada era is over.

Evil Vito
09-01-2018, 10:17 PM
I’m so fucking glad I paid for this show. Seriously. Even if it goes up on NJPW World tomorrow I’m sure I would’ve run into spoilers.

Jordan
09-01-2018, 10:17 PM
Guess Balloon Boy Okada era is over.

Thank God.

xrodmuc316
09-01-2018, 10:17 PM
I know I'm gonna get some heat for this, but I thought that match was a little Lesnar/Reigns like. Omega did like 10 B Triggers, Penta with I think 4 package piledrivers (although that one on the apron was sick), and even the high flying stuff didn't feel like it was used to build any drama.

It was a fine match, I think the expectation was just so high and didn't blow it out of the water.

I enjoyed the Jay/Flip match more.

Droford
09-01-2018, 10:19 PM
Lex Luger isn't half dead still?

A.J.K
09-01-2018, 10:21 PM
is this on an app?

Jordan
09-01-2018, 10:22 PM
is this on an app?

Do you need a stream?

Shisen Kopf
09-01-2018, 10:24 PM
I found a stream on reddit that's been PrettyGood.

Shisen Kopf
09-01-2018, 10:24 PM
Don't like all the flippy shit

A.J.K
09-01-2018, 10:25 PM
Do you need a stream?

i'd have to watch from the beginning and i can't stream on my chromebook.

Shisen Kopf
09-01-2018, 10:25 PM
The Jap is gonna win this match

Jordan
09-01-2018, 10:27 PM
i'd have to watch from the beginning and i can't stream on my chromebook.

Well it will be on New Japan World after it's over.

Jordan
09-01-2018, 10:27 PM
Not really into this match all that much yet.

Evil Vito
09-01-2018, 10:35 PM
This match has been good but I’m reaching a burnout point.

Droford
09-01-2018, 10:37 PM
That makes my fingers hurt

Droford
09-01-2018, 10:38 PM
i'd have to watch from the beginning and i can't stream on my chromebook.

Working fine on mine. I couldn't get it to work on my roku

Droford
09-01-2018, 10:39 PM
Damn

slik
09-01-2018, 10:39 PM
This is great

Jordan
09-01-2018, 10:40 PM
Yeah now I've gotten into it.

Jordan
09-01-2018, 10:42 PM
Nice finish.

Droford
09-01-2018, 10:42 PM
Ugggh

Emperor Smeat
09-01-2018, 10:42 PM
Okada-Scrull was great

Shisen Kopf
09-01-2018, 10:42 PM
The Jap is gonna win this match

I know rasslin

Evil Vito
09-01-2018, 10:43 PM
LOL ending Okada’s celebration quickly. They’re definitely running behind

Jordan
09-01-2018, 10:43 PM
I wonder if this has to finish by 11.

Droford
09-01-2018, 10:44 PM
I wonder if this has to finish by 11.

If that's the case this is the match to get out up against it

Evil Vito
09-01-2018, 10:46 PM
This match could be only 10 minutes and it’d be fine, gonna be really fast paced.

Droford
09-01-2018, 10:49 PM
Well this is something

Droford
09-01-2018, 10:51 PM
Gotta go home!

Droford
09-01-2018, 10:54 PM
I didn't think Fenix was going to make it over the rope

Evil Vito
09-01-2018, 10:54 PM
Yeah, they’re working at a frantic pace. Might legit be match ends and they go off the air.

Emperor Smeat
09-01-2018, 10:56 PM
Crazy and fast-pace main event so far

Droford
09-01-2018, 10:57 PM
Wow

Evil Vito
09-01-2018, 10:59 PM
LOL yup, off at 11 on the nose.

What a show.

Droford
09-01-2018, 10:59 PM
Yeah, they’re working at a frantic pace. Might legit be match ends and they go off the air.

+1

Jordan
09-01-2018, 10:59 PM
Wow what a match!

Emperor Smeat
09-01-2018, 11:00 PM
Fun match but very obvious they had to cut it really short due to time issues.

:lol: at the feed being abruptly cut.

Jordan
09-01-2018, 11:00 PM
Insane that they pulled off a worthy main event right in the nick of time.

xrodmuc316
09-01-2018, 11:01 PM
I wonder if this has to finish by 11.

Clearly had to be done at 11 considering it went off air like 10 seconds after the pin lol

Volare
09-01-2018, 11:01 PM
Great PPV top to bottom regardless of time.

screech
09-01-2018, 11:01 PM
I didn't know a bunch of the rasslers, but that show was so fun!

slik
09-01-2018, 11:01 PM
Fun main-event, short and kinetic

Overall not a perfect show, but a few great matches and it's good to see more than just WWE out there on PPV

Evil Vito
09-01-2018, 11:01 PM
While I’m sure that was always going to be a fast-paced match, I think a few matches definitely went longer than planned.

Page/Janela probably could’ve been shorter for what it was supposed to be

xrodmuc316
09-01-2018, 11:03 PM
Was a good show, but not quite on the NXT Level.

Droford
09-01-2018, 11:08 PM
While I’m sure that was always going to be a fast-paced match, I think a few matches definitely went longer than planned.

Page/Janela probably could’ve been shorter for what it was supposed to be

With the exception of the opener (which went 9:30) every match got at least 10 minutes and there were 3 20 minute matches (Page/Janella being one of them, which also had like a 5 minute over run thing with Joey Ryan)

So you're probably right that the Streetfight match + post match stuff was where they lost the most time.

Evil Vito
09-01-2018, 11:10 PM
Somewhere backstage, CM Punk is standing backstage in a bear suit upset at getting bumped due to time.

Droford
09-01-2018, 11:10 PM
I think the Lethal/Flip match was probably the worst match but it wasn't terribly awful..(I missed the opener but anyway)

Emperor Smeat
09-01-2018, 11:13 PM
While I’m sure that was always going to be a fast-paced match, I think a few matches definitely went longer than planned.

Page/Janela probably could’ve been shorter for what it was supposed to be

Not counting pre or post-match stuff, only real offender for time was the Scrull-Okada match since it went over 25 minutes.

Cut a couple minutes from that match and the NWA match and the main event would have had more than enough breathing room to work with.

Droford
09-01-2018, 11:18 PM
I enjoyed the 31/2 of the 4 hours I Saw. A good show worth the $40 I paid

Triple A
09-01-2018, 11:21 PM
Missed like 95% of the show... Was it "sick" and worth watching again or just pretty good...

Triple A
09-01-2018, 11:22 PM
Missed like 95% of the show... Was it "sick" and worth watching again or just pretty good...

Better question is are there any matches that I should def watch

Evil Vito
09-01-2018, 11:23 PM
Not counting pre or post-match stuff, only real offender for time was the Scrull-Okada match since it went over 25 minutes.
.

Yup. Supposedly Scurll ignored the cues to go home for over 10 minutes.

Emperor Smeat
09-01-2018, 11:48 PM
Yup. Supposedly Scurll ignored the cues to go home for over 10 minutes.

That's really bad of him to do. Wonder if he has some sort of bad rep with this or done it elsewhere before in the past.

The ref, Tiger Hattori, speaks both English and Japanese so it couldn't have been a miscommunication from him.

Jordan
09-01-2018, 11:52 PM
My thoughts...

Great event, should hopefully become an annual thing. It felt huge, the culmination of the amazing past few years the indie scene has had. Match of the night... maybe the main event maybe Janella/Hangman. I was disappointed with Omega/Penta and Okada/Scurll. This will happen with Okada/Omega matches because I've come to expect the unexpected and those matches weren't anything super dramatic or high stakes for me. I didn't think they were bad I was just disappointed. I liked Flip/Lethal, they are both fantastic. I also loved the Over The Budget Battle Royal. I though Amell and Daniels did a good job, some obvious botches, and I don't see Amell as a celebrity because I don't watch his show but he did pretty good. MJF/Matt Cross was a good opener. The women's match was really good but a botched ending it felt like. The best moment of the show was Cody winning the same way that Bulldog beat Bret at Summerslam 92, great moment, match was entertaining but nothing special, felt like TNA.

Simple Fan
09-01-2018, 11:53 PM
Show was was good, I'm pretty drunk, Louisville game didn't really go good.

Feel like the Cody/Aldis match should have been the main

Emperor Smeat
09-02-2018, 12:36 AM
https://twitter.com/C_Scott6/status/1036086408526553088

slik
09-02-2018, 02:07 AM
Missed like 95% of the show... Was it "sick" and worth watching again or just pretty good...

Definitely worth watching

Watch it all

slik
09-02-2018, 06:45 AM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Highlights from the terrific Omega/Pentagon match<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ALLIN?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ALLIN</a> <a href="https://t.co/RZDqb7SwO2">pic.twitter.com/RZDqb7SwO2</a></p>&mdash; Kenton (@TheKentonLane) <a href="https://twitter.com/TheKentonLane/status/1036200899528540161?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 2, 2018</a></blockquote>
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slik
09-02-2018, 06:50 AM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Highlights from the fantastic Okada/Scurll match<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ALLIN?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ALLIN</a> <a href="https://t.co/4PxXqbTWMb">pic.twitter.com/4PxXqbTWMb</a></p>&mdash; Kenton (@TheKentonLane) <a href="https://twitter.com/TheKentonLane/status/1036204193504210944?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 2, 2018</a></blockquote>
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ClockShot
09-02-2018, 07:09 AM
I ended up buying the PPV. Would have joined the thread, but was too glued to the TV.

Don't have WGN America here, so I got no clue what happened during pre-show.

Top to bottom, it was a pretty solid show. The only blemish, in my opinion was the Cody/Nick Aldis match. I don't know if that's how it was all planned out, but it just went sideways after Hebner threw up the X and the stuff that followed. Good thing they threw that on in the middle of the show.

Everything else was great. Ladies tornado match was a blast, Jericho showing up to promote the Cruise was nice. Street Fight was a lot of fun. Just everything.

All-in-all, Cody and the Bucks can easily do this again. Just, keep an eye on the clock.

Simple Fan
09-02-2018, 09:47 AM
Going to rewatched the show. Was a bit distracted from the later part of the card.

Ol Dirty Dastard
09-02-2018, 10:21 AM
I'm watching it now. (I know the results). I know Cody isn't like some bonkers out of this world "workrate" guy (though he's prty good), but I'm a HUGE fan of his presentation.

Also, he managed to use some moxy to reinvigorate the NWA championship (along with Billy Corgan's effort). Even if it's only "highly regarded" in the tiny smark community, that's something considering how little it's meant for a long time. Whether that feeling of prestige lasts longer than a month remains to be seen.

But, if Cody focuses on promoting the belt as a big deal (along with Billy Corgan's smarts) then there could be a chance and keeps steadily building it up. Fingers crossed. It helps a lot that the Rhodes name is synonymous with NWA. And now more than ever he carries himself like a Rhodes. If he can keep producing and promoting matches that have big fight feels, who knows what's to come? And if some famous sports analyst with ties to "the old days" of territories gives it some shine it could help even more.

IMO, the key is to not compete with the WWE. Just do your own thing. They'll have their talent raids, but appeal to your niche and it could keep growing if the product speaks to them.

TBH I don't even know what I'm talking about. Whether it's "The Indies", the NWA championship, or Cody as a wrassling icon. I just hope one of those things keeps growing to help wrestling grow even more.

Bad News Gertner
09-02-2018, 10:35 AM
Nobody has cared about the NWA World Title in almost 30 years.

This changes nothing.

erickman
09-02-2018, 10:50 AM
so I guess jerico is not going back to the wwe till vince puts him in the hall of fame. good I want to see chris in the impact zone.

Ol Dirty Dastard
09-02-2018, 10:51 AM
Nobody has cared about the NWA World Title in almost 30 years.

This changes nothing.

It's never gonna be the WWE championship. but if they can tap into some super nerd wrestling market, it has a chance to have some relevancy. All I'm saying, is that they're on the right path.

You also thought Devon White was traded to the Jays for Kelly Gruber, so your credibility is suspect on pretty much everything.

Jordan
09-02-2018, 11:04 AM
Nobody has cared about the NWA World Title in almost 30 years.

This changes nothing.

I disagree, I care about it now. They made it special last night. If Cody and Billy book this run well they could make something really valuable to the indie scene. I don't think I'm alone in thinking that Cody could elevate this title to be a draw on indie shows. Last night was huge, the 70th Anniversary booking is very important. I'm hoping that it's either a rematch with Aldis or a match with Jarrett. Jarrett would be even bigger, they should book a tour where Cody goes around to big indie shows and defeats worthy challengers and starts to build a new history for the 10lbs of Gold.

Jordan
09-02-2018, 11:09 AM
Also Cody will likely defend in New Japan which will elevate the title further. Fantasy booking for me would be Ospreay in Japan or Australia, Goto or Evil in Japan, I would also love to see him defend in England against Walter, Quebec against PCO, Jarrett in the states, PENTA in Cali, maybe even LA Park in Mexico. He can go around and bounce back and forth between playing chicken shit heel who goes the distance or skims by like Flair, or he can play the underdog baby face who takes a beating the whole match and comes back to with with fire. I'm really excited for the possibilities.

Ol Dirty Dastard
09-02-2018, 11:10 AM
I think they really need to do something about how Indy-rific everything is. That doesn't mean copy the WWE, because even the WWE comes across as bush league AF.

Most of the entrance songs suck. I hate all Indy commentating. Nobody sounds like a damned sportscaster. You have one guy wearing a fucking mask. Come on.

I'm still enjoying the show, and it looks really good. Love the fight camps accompanying performers to the ring. Love the energy. Just some presentation issues that I think are hokey and will hold them back.

Maluco
09-02-2018, 11:15 AM
Couldn't watch this for a whole list of reasons, but after initially being dismissive, it has definately peaked my interest. Wrestling world is crying out for an alternative, and it would be amazing if even something small, niche, but well written, could eventually come out of something like this

Can't describe how much I hate current day WWE, but would fully support a viable alternative

erickman
09-02-2018, 11:17 AM
Also Cody will likely defend in New Japan which will elevate the title further. Fantasy booking for me would be Ospreay in Japan or Australia, Goto or Evil in Japan, I would also love to see him defend in England against Walter, Quebec against PCO, Jarrett in the states, PENTA in Cali, maybe even LA Park in Mexico. He can go around and bounce back and forth between playing chicken shit heel who goes the distance or skims by like Flair, or he can play the underdog baby face who takes a beating the whole match and comes back to with with fire. I'm really excited for the possibilities.

yeah with the way all the companys are working togather now it can be like the nwa belt of old he can defend it on impact he can defend it on new japan he can defend it in roh, he can defend it anywhere but wwe.

Maluco
09-02-2018, 11:20 AM
It seems so unlikely, and still has many obstacles to overcome, but there is definately a market for something different. Those millions of fans that no longer watch RAW definately have a contingent that still like wrestling.

It just needs to be accessible and have a few names tied to it.

Actually think Corgan has done a quiet, but really great job with NWA title so far. It will take years, but I think if people want to believe it has value and it is presented well, it can be somewhat restored

Bad News Gertner
09-02-2018, 11:23 AM
I disagree, I care about it now. They made it special last night. If Cody and Billy book this run well they could make something really valuable to the indie scene. I don't think I'm alone in thinking that Cody could elevate this title to be a draw on indie shows. Last night was huge, the 70th Anniversary booking is very important. I'm hoping that it's either a rematch with Aldis or a match with Jarrett. Jarrett would be even bigger, they should book a tour where Cody goes around to big indie shows and defeats worthy challengers and starts to build a new history for the 10lbs of Gold.

You won't in about a week

Stickman
09-02-2018, 11:27 AM
Can Cody sell out a stadium? (No)

Ol Dirty Dastard
09-02-2018, 11:28 AM
Actually think Corgan has done a quiet, but really great job with NWA title so far. It will take years, but I think if people want to believe it has value and it is presented well, it can be somewhat restored

Corgan is the best chance the NWA has. A guy who loves wrestling, has seen HUGE success in the entertainment industry, and understands not to sprint before he can walk (and likely had that hammered home with how he got carnied in TNA). He really can bank roll them if he's smart.

He also appreciates old school wrestling and isn't going to get caught up in the gaga. His championship has gone from the gutter to being defended in front of 10,000 plus people. No matter what the buys are, that is incredible. Plus, now Cody can potentially defend his belt in the Tokyo dome in front of tons more people.

Everyone involved can't ride the coat tails of All In. They have to book these "all in" type events to have their own unique themes. If they can find a way to book two of these a year to start, that'd be amazing.

Ol Dirty Dastard
09-02-2018, 11:37 AM
You won't in about a week

You're 100% right. The key is to defend it on the right stage with the right presentation to build off this momentum.

They at the very least have the "special" All In moment as equity. People will stop caring about the title but they'll remember the moment. If Cody's next defence is well promoted in the right community and he delivers something good, then who knows? It'll create more buzz.

All I'm saying is I didn't give a shit about the NWA title AT ALL (even for the week I'll care about) up until this match. Like I couldn't have given a shit when Nick Aldis was beating all these jobbers. But in fairness, they did a good enough job making him seem "legit" enough that he seemed like a good foe. And there I was watching it going "CODY WIN THIS ONE FOR DUSTY!!!! :'( ".

Maybe the next time Cody has a good showing, I'll care about the title for two and a half weeks. Then the next time, a whole month. Corgan was consistent enough with slowly building Aldis into someone credible enough to take on Rhodes at this big show, to create a really solid moment. Rhodes has been consistent in cultivating a pretty good character and the All In buzz gave him a lot of good will.

The key is they acted like it was a big fight. So it felt like a big fight.

Ol Dirty Dastard
09-02-2018, 11:37 AM
#NoidPostNewstead

Jordan
09-02-2018, 11:45 AM
I think they really need to do something about how Indy-rific everything is. That doesn't mean copy the WWE, because even the WWE comes across as bush league AF.

Most of the entrance songs suck. I hate all Indy commentating. Nobody sounds like a damned sportscaster. You have one guy wearing a fucking mask. Come on.

I'm still enjoying the show, and it looks really good. Love the fight camps accompanying performers to the ring. Love the energy. Just some presentation issues that I think are hokey and will hold them back.

It was a step above indie-rific for me. I've seen plenty of indie-rific this year. The commentary was hit and miss, but for me Excalibur (the masked commentator and owner of PWG) was solid throughout the show. The guest commentator during the NWA Championship match was horrible though. Ian Riccaboni was okay for me but sometimes seemed unprepared and too tight, not willing to just talk. Felt like he was trying to be Mauro at time, which I guess is a great person to be like but "you know"...

Couldn't watch this for a whole list of reasons, but after initially being dismissive, it has definately peaked my interest. Wrestling world is crying out for an alternative, and it would be amazing if even something small, niche, but well written, could eventually come out of something like this

Can't describe how much I hate current day WWE, but would fully support a viable alternative

I think that ALL IN if made an annual event could the "Wrestlemania" of indie wrestling. As much as I'd like to see more of it, I love the idea of it being the highlight of the year for the great indie workers and stories that take place.

It seems so unlikely, and still has many obstacles to overcome, but there is definately a market for something different. Those millions of fans that no longer watch RAW definately have a contingent that still like wrestling.

It just needs to be accessible and have a few names tied to it.

Actually think Corgan has done a quiet, but really great job with NWA title so far. It will take years, but I think if people want to believe it has value and it is presented well, it can be somewhat restored

I feel like they would set themselves up to fail if they try to make a proper promotion out of ALL IN or NWA, I think they need to keep the NWA Title a promotional tool to boost the importance of a show, be it IMPACT, ROH, whatever indie or NJPW show that the champ is booked for. Supporting the indie scene seems to be more viable than actually launching a major promotion that has guys to contacts that will just be stolen by WWE.

You won't in about a week

Sure but I don't have to. It's not a weekly program. I won't have to really care about it until they announce the rematch at NWA 70th or whatever match they make for that event.

Can Cody sell out a stadium? (No)

It's not about selling out stadiums, why would you even think that? And to be honest when has WWE ever actually sold out a stadium? They add 10, 20,000 to imaginary figures to each WM and give thousands of tickets away (for some events).

xrodmuc316
09-02-2018, 12:07 PM
There is a market for 2-3 of these kind of cross promotion Indy shows per year, where they can make good money.

I don't think though there is anyway it becomes more than that. If they try to build for more, they will destroy the novelty and it will crash and burn.

Ol Dirty Dastard
09-02-2018, 12:12 PM
I think that ALL IN if made an annual event could the "Wrestlemania" of indie wrestling. As much as I'd like to see more of it, I love the idea of it being the highlight of the year for the great indie workers and stories that take place.



I feel like they would set themselves up to fail if they try to make a proper promotion out of ALL IN or NWA, I think they need to keep the NWA Title a promotional tool to boost the importance of a show, be it IMPACT, ROH, whatever indie or NJPW show that the champ is booked for. Supporting the indie scene seems to be more viable than actually launching a major promotion that has guys to contacts that will just be stolen by WWE.



100% this is the way to do it. But I think they could pull off 2 shows a year if done carefully.

Ol Dirty Dastard
09-02-2018, 12:13 PM
Kind of like Wrestlemania, and Summerslam of the Indies.

Destor
09-02-2018, 01:04 PM
Nobody has cared about the NWA World Title in almost 30 years.

This changes nothing.

It matters if we say it matters and i think a lot of people are starting to understand their role in how prestige works on the mark side of things.

Destor
09-02-2018, 01:07 PM
If people stop listening to opinions like gertners the business will actually grow. Wonder if people cant stop being cool long enough for that to happen

Bad News Gertner
09-02-2018, 01:11 PM
Can't wait for Cody to defend it against Alabama Doink at the local Knights of Columbus next week.

Ol Dirty Dastard
09-02-2018, 01:26 PM
If people stop listening to opinions like gertners the business will actually grow. Wonder if people cant stop being cool long enough for that to happen

Pretty much this. Gertner's opinions are fun, but he has a lifetime pass to the player hater's ball. It's all about how they present it. Just say it's a big deal. Act like it's a big deal. And treat it like a big deal. Then it'll be a big deal.

Simple Fan
09-02-2018, 01:40 PM
The 10lbs of Gold YouTube series has been great for the NWA World's Heaveyweight Championship. I'd say Aldis will get his rematch at the 70th Anniversary show in October but I'd like to see Cody hold the title a bit longer than that.

Bad News Gertner
09-02-2018, 01:55 PM
Pretty much this. Gertner's opinions are fun, but he has a lifetime pass to the player hater's ball. It's all about how they present it. Just say it's a big deal. Act like it's a big deal. And treat it like a big deal. Then it'll be a big deal.

Lol you could build a time machine a bring back Ric Flair vs Dusty Rhodes from 1983 and the NWA Title still won't be a big deal except for the local hillbilly NWA promoters

Ol Dirty Dastard
09-02-2018, 02:45 PM
Lol you could build a time machine a bring back Ric Flair vs Dusty Rhodes from 1983 and the NWA Title still won't be a big deal except for the local hillbilly NWA promoters

Donald Trump is president. Don’t act like appealing to hillbillies doesn’t work.

Swiss Ultimate
09-02-2018, 04:02 PM
Donald Trump is president. Don’t act like appealing to hillbillies doesn’t work.

Hillbillies are why wrestling still exists.

Emperor Smeat
09-02-2018, 08:50 PM
Now that Cody has the NWA belt, could see it become ROH exclusive for a little while similar to when TNA held ownership of it for a few years.

Would give Cody a better pool of talent to work with and NWA gets better exposure on tv and events.

Bad News Gertner
09-02-2018, 08:56 PM
Lol I wonder if they still take 10% of the wrestlers payoffs as a booking fee. That's why Corino gave back the title essentially. He was making less as NWA Champion

Jordan
09-02-2018, 09:44 PM
Now that Cody has the NWA belt, could see it become ROH exclusive for a little while similar to when TNA held ownership of it for a few years.

Would give Cody a better pool of talent to work with and NWA gets better exposure on tv and events.

Who exactly? I looked at the ROH roster today and aside from the guys on ALL IN like Daniels, Kaz, Briscoes, Lethal, Flip, Bully Ray, who? The roster page at ROH looks horrible compared to MLW or Impact.

Jordan
09-02-2018, 09:45 PM
Lol I wonder if they still take 10% of the wrestlers payoffs as a booking fee. That's why Corino gave back the title essentially. He was making less as NWA Champion

Well that makes sense for Corino, he didn't sell merch. Cody does. I have no idea though if they take a fee or not.

Vastardikai
09-02-2018, 09:47 PM
MJF has something there. He's got potential.

Amell and Daniels was kind of rough, but Daniels was the right guy to put the actor with.

I am happy that I didn't want to set Don Callis on fire. Excalibur was probably the best of the commentators.

Tessa is a goddess. And it was amazing to see Magnum and Tully.

Cody and Aldis was solid. I am impressed by what I saw from Aldis. Who's appearance was more random: Daivari or Glacier? It felt like a proper title match, and I liked the finish.

My problem with the Street Fight was thus: A. Janella was an afterthought in the build and the match itself. I was just waiting on it to get over with to do the pay off with the Joey Ryan thing. His valet impressed me more than he did. B. the Joey Ryan thing. That has no business in wrestling. I told my dad that I wanted to nuke that whole thing from orbit. He wasn't impressed with the dick spot, either.

C. Most important problem with the Street Fight was that NOBODY went to the ring wearing knee pads over blue jeans. It's a fucking Chicago Street Fight, you have to get the aesthetics right.

It was my first time seeing Pentagon Jr. in the ring, and holy fuck is that dude amazing. He is a big guy, athletic, has a great look, and a personality.

Scurrl really should have went home when they said, but the match itself was good. I think Scurrl's only real issue is his timing. His facial expressions were great, his offense was solid, and it's hard not to appreciate what he brings to the table.

The 6 man was great for what it was. Shoud have been earlier in the card, though.

Part of the timing thing likely had to do with much of the talent not ever having done proper TV matches.

Simple Fan
09-02-2018, 09:47 PM
I could see Cody and The Bucks just becoming freelancers and work where ever they want like Jericho.

Jordan
09-02-2018, 09:57 PM
Yeah I gotta say I've never been impressed with Scurl to honestly fuck him for being selfish and not doing what he was told to do.

Jordan
09-02-2018, 09:58 PM
Would love for the Bucks to work with Impact and MLW instead of ROH. I am not feeling ROH at all.

Simple Fan
09-02-2018, 10:10 PM
ROH has the NJPW partnership which really helps them. Could see the Young Bucks being NWA Tag Team Champions if they ever revive them. I think they should just stay all in on themselves and work for everybody.

Emperor Smeat
09-02-2018, 10:17 PM
Who exactly? I looked at the ROH roster today and aside from the guys on ALL IN like Daniels, Kaz, Briscoes, Lethal, Flip, Bully Ray, who? The roster page at ROH looks horrible compared to MLW or Impact.

Agree on the lack of big star names to not have the belt there for the long term like with TNA but for the short term, ROH & NWA can also tap into NJPW and CMLL for potential star matchups due to ROH's association. Even RevPro for the UK connection but no clue who works there. Like the belt stays there for Cody's reign and maybe his successor depending on who the NWA and Corbin decide on.

Impact has the better roster in terms of star power but MLW's is more fluid at the moment since they are dealing with WWE's attempts at raiding them.

Simple Fan
09-02-2018, 10:24 PM
I don't think Corgan is going to hitch himself to one promotion but he used Championship Wrestling from Hollywood for most of Aldis's defenses. They'll probably work with ROH for a while because I'd imagine they want in the MSG show. Might start doing more shows themselves if the 70th Anniversary show goes well.

Emperor Smeat
09-02-2018, 10:45 PM
If ROH can lock down Cody for at least another year, could very well see the NWA title be defended at next year's Wrestle Kingdom and the MSG show.

That gives the NWA 2 high profile events as exposure for their brand and then from there, start thinking about future plans for the belt. Also gives Corgan plenty of time to lay all the groundwork needed for his larger plans.

Simple Fan
09-02-2018, 10:51 PM
Definitly needs to be defended on those show but I don't think Cody needs to be locked down to do it. That's assuming Cody has a lengthy reign and doesn't drop it back to Aldis.

Bad News Gertner
09-02-2018, 11:40 PM
It'll be the 4th-5th most important title on the card

Simple Fan
09-03-2018, 12:48 AM
That's probably accurate.

Ol Dirty Dastard
09-03-2018, 10:44 AM
lol not that this is a startling revelation... but the neckbeard factor at All In was shudder inducing.

Destor
09-03-2018, 05:32 PM
lol not that this is a startling revelation... but the neckbeard factor at All In was shudder inducing.

That what wrestling fans are tho.

Destor
09-03-2018, 05:34 PM
Only reason wwf isnt exactly like that is because the court children. Neck beards are the market tho. Women left a long time ago and the neckbeards refuse to let them come back

Loose Cannon
09-03-2018, 05:50 PM
it's so hard for me to take Cody Rhodes serious when i saw him midcard for years in the E. He's an excellent talent, great character and promo. I just don't buy him as the NWA World Champion....or any World Champion

Simple Fan
09-03-2018, 06:00 PM
It's always been his size for me. He'd put on some weight before All In but dropped som before the show. Still looks bigger than he did in WWE. Used to hate no knee pads Cody.

Jordan
09-03-2018, 06:01 PM
I used to feel that way about Cody and then he went to NJPW and I was like "Okay boy now you got it" and he totally sold me in that insanity with Kenny Omega at Cow Palace. The screen time from BTE he's shown to be far and above all the other Bullet Club guys, and with the build to ALL IN, he was a main event star for me.

Loose Cannon
09-03-2018, 06:15 PM
yeah probably just need to watch more of him. I mean we've seen tons of mid card 4 life guys have a run and make it mean something. JBL comes to mind off the top of my head for me. problem is he's an NWA champ. i don't even know where to watch NWA.

Simple Fan
09-03-2018, 07:21 PM
YouTube

Innovator
09-04-2018, 12:22 PM
lol not that this is a startling revelation... but the neckbeard factor at All In was shudder inducing.

They also are the ones who will spend a shitload of money.

Destor
09-04-2018, 12:27 PM
not traditionally.

Destor
09-04-2018, 12:28 PM
Been the biggest issue since wrestling lost women and indies lost children is it gets much more difficult to sell merch.

Ol Dirty Dastard
09-04-2018, 01:37 PM
Well the problem we'll see is that neckbeards ARE willing to buy merch, but it has to be specifically catered to them. So we'll see a product that'll progressively be more catered to neckbeards over time. But who knows. That may be good for their product...if "The Indies" can work together as the anti-WWE and get some kind of business/profit sharing going on then the world could be their oyster. I have my doubts though, too many carny shit stains out there willing to fuck it all up for their own wallet.

Bad News Gertner
09-04-2018, 02:14 PM
Too many shirts below XXXL. It's killing the business.

Destor
09-04-2018, 02:18 PM
Too many shirts below XXXL. It's killing the business.

This is honestly a legit issue. It cost too much to sell XXXXX shirts at a price that will move and the crowd is fucking HUGE.

Ol Dirty Dastard
09-04-2018, 02:20 PM
lol yeah that All In crowd was something special.

Ol Dirty Dastard
09-04-2018, 02:21 PM
I mean at least they were into it, and it made the event fun. But I would not want to be there tbh. Feel like I'd prefer a boring WWE House Show crowd.

Destor
09-04-2018, 02:23 PM
Well the problem we'll see is that neckbeards ARE willing to buy merch, but it has to be specifically catered to them. So we'll see a product that'll progressively be more catered to neckbeards over time. But who knows. That may be good for their product...if "The Indies" can work together as the anti-WWE and get some kind of business/profit sharing going on then the world could be their oyster. I have my doubts though, too many carny shit stains out there willing to fuck it all up for their own wallet.

Only person who's getting a share of my merch is a heel im in a program with. Standard practice.

The rest of the boys can eat a dick. I didnt bust my ass so johnny high spots with his "i can wrestling in jeans and a t shirts cause ambrose does it" or fucking 115lb twat in his trash bag pants who slaps headlocks on the wrong goddamn side is getting 1 fucking ¢ of my pay out.

slik
09-04-2018, 02:30 PM
Destor calling out the fatties

Destor
09-04-2018, 02:33 PM
if they would buy shirts at a fair market value it would be fine but they want 35% more material for the same fucking price.

Destor
09-04-2018, 02:34 PM
you're fat. You pay more. Deal.

Ol Dirty Dastard
09-04-2018, 02:36 PM
Only person who's getting a share of my merch is a heel im in a program with. Standard practice.

The rest of the boys can eat a dick. I didnt bust my ass so johnny high spots with his "i can wrestling in jeans and a t shirts cause ambrose does it" or fucking 115lb twat in his trash bag pants who slaps headlocks on the wrong goddamn side is getting 1 fucking ¢ of my pay out.

I meant more between the major league feds. But my post was half cooked and a combo of ideas. I just mean Indies working in unison w/ each other like they did for All In, similar to the territories in the NWA days but with a bigger picture vision.

Don't workers independently sell merch?

Ol Dirty Dastard
09-04-2018, 02:38 PM
if they would buy shirts at a fair market value it would be fine but they want 35% more material for the same fucking price.


You can have S, M, L, XL, and XXL, at regular prices. If someone needs a bigger shirt you just say it's "custom made" and you have to charge more for this. Positioning it as custom made makes it sound more classy. #Marketing

Destor
09-04-2018, 02:44 PM
I meant more between the major league feds. But my post was half cooked and a combo of ideas. I just mean Indies working in unison w/ each other like they did for All In, similar to the territories in the NWA days but with a bigger picture vision.

Don't workers independently sell merch?Promotions dont sell your merch. You produce and sell it yourself. If a promotion advertises your merch on their sight you'll give them a cut but thats usually the extent of it. Profit margins are small on these things tho.

You can have S, M, L, XL, and XXL, at regular prices. If someone needs a bigger shirt you just say it's "custom made" and you have to charge more for this. Positioning it as custom made makes it sound more classy. #Marketing

People dont like a fat tax, they arent stupid. I mean they gonna pay it if they want the product....but they wont like it. Problem is when the guy next to you takes the loss and does mark up the fat shirts you look like a dick when you're trying to maintain your profit margins.

Innovator
09-04-2018, 02:50 PM
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Ol Dirty Dastard
09-04-2018, 03:34 PM
People dont like a fat tax, they arent stupid. I mean they gonna pay it if they want the product....but they wont like it. Problem is when the guy next to you takes the loss and does mark up the fat shirts you look like a dick when you're trying to maintain your profit margins.

Which is kind of ridiculous lol. Honestly though it'd be interesting to just take a hard line and not call it a fat tax. Just say "It's a lot of material and I can't afford XXXL shirts made to order".

Honestly, if you can't fit in XXL you should be paying extra. That is v unhealthy.

Swiss Ultimate
09-04-2018, 04:09 PM
I don't want 600 pounders wearing AUSTIN 3:16 shirts.

slik
09-04-2018, 04:18 PM
Wrestling always seems to draw an interesting mix of:


Normal, functioning people

and

"Wow, do you know you smell like that and also is that a hot dog in your beard and why is your beard only on your neck and are you drinking three cans of red bull and is that stain on your nWo shirt what I think it is?"

Jordan
09-04-2018, 04:56 PM
Going to any wrestling show is like going to a goddamn freak show. I felt so bad once I went to a Smackdown live event at the Knoxville Civic Center and there was a tragic burn victim scaring off children in our section. I remember a father literally picking up his kid and running away. It was horrible. Luckily there were plenty of open seats. I was close to the guy and the girl he was with and I smiled and stayed because I couldn’t do that to him. But between you and me, that was rough. At NXT BK4 I was surrounded by XXXL’s and they all were the smartest funniest fans in the arena. I wish this type of fan would just stay home. They generally refuse to invest in the show only yelling out the smarkiest most irrelevant thing they can think of. There really should be some kind of decorum amongst the IWC when it comes to live shows. Proper bathing, laundry etiquette especially.

Droford
09-04-2018, 05:03 PM
I have to get 3x or else after I wash 2x like twice it doesn't fit

Jordan
09-04-2018, 05:06 PM
I have to get 3x or else after I wash 2x like twice it doesn't fit

Would you buy a shirt in 3x if you saw the smaller sizes were less expensive? Also I don’t mean to body shame anyone. Not everyone has it easy when it comes to weight. So I hope I didn’t offend or hurt anyone’s feelings by remarking I was surrounded by 3xL’s.

Vastardikai
09-04-2018, 05:09 PM
I just hope that the reason why the one guy wearing the inflatable sick costume was downcast because Tully told him off.

Also, someone explain why Penelope Ford throws better strikes than Janella.

Jordan
09-04-2018, 05:10 PM
Janeella’s forearm strikes are THE BEST.

Damian Rey 2.0
09-04-2018, 05:20 PM
I have to get 3x or else after I wash 2x like twice it doesn't fit

Are you putting it in the dryer? Because if you are that's probably your problem. I hang dry t-shirts.

Vastardikai
09-04-2018, 05:23 PM
He's trash, even by hardcore wrestler standards. He has conned his way into the spot he's got by tricking people into thinking he isn't trash. But be honest, he looked like what would happen if the Miz had Bayley's hairstyle when he came out. He almost got crippled 3 or 4 Times in that match. Tragically, he didn't.

Ol Dirty Dastard
09-04-2018, 05:50 PM
He's trash, even by hardcore wrestler standards. He has conned his way into the spot he's got by tricking people into thinking he isn't trash. But be honest, he looked like what would happen if the Miz had Bayley's hairstyle when he came out. He almost got crippled 3 or 4 Times in that match. Tragically, he didn't.

Lol did he slap your mother or something?

Simple Fan
09-04-2018, 05:52 PM
I've been impressed with Janela this year. Hadn't heard of him before this year though.

Bad News Gertner
09-04-2018, 11:27 PM
One of these days I'm going to figure out Destor's ring name. I've got a couple leads that I've put together over the years from little tidbits he's dropped. I bet I could figure it out if he answered 5 "yes" or "no" questions

Ol Dirty Dastard
09-04-2018, 11:29 PM
Why wouldn't he just tell us? I'd buy his merch.

Bad News Gertner
09-04-2018, 11:33 PM
He's said before he'd rather stay anonymous

Bad News Gertner
09-04-2018, 11:33 PM
DESTOR!

EXPOSE YOURSELF!!!!

Simple Fan
09-05-2018, 12:14 AM
Destor is a wrestler?

Destor
09-05-2018, 12:16 AM
I enjoy anonymity. Its not something i think i can explain that would make sense. I like being able to get unfiltered conversations about wrestling from geniune fans and TPWW has always had a really rich tapestry of of fans from all walks of life.

The consumers are as much a part of the business as the workers and while i def have my own opinions ive always valued being able to come here and get an honest perspective from so many different people.

Initially i wanted to kayfabe i worked at all but i cant have geniune human relationships if im not my authentic self...so this is the middle ground.

I know thats probably super alien but it makes sense to me.

Tom Guycott
09-05-2018, 01:16 AM
DESTOR!

EXPOSE YOURSELF!!!!

"I was going to expose you!!"

"Yes, I know. So I choose to expose myself."

"There's women present!"

Tom Guycott
09-05-2018, 01:35 AM
I enjoy anonymity. Its not something i think i can explain that would make sense. I like being able to get unfiltered conversations about wrestling from geniune fans and TPWW has always had a really rich tapestry of of fans from all walks of life.

The consumers are as much a part of the business as the workers and while i def have my own opinions ive always valued being able to come here and get an honest perspective from so many different people.

Initially i wanted to kayfabe i worked at all but i cant have geniune human relationships if im not my authentic self...so this is the middle ground.

I know thats probably super alien but it makes sense to me.

Makes sense. You kinda want a divorce of the persona and the person.

If I were a wrestler, I would want to be under a mask. Sort of like the opposite of Adam Savage cosplaying at a con.

BigCrippyZ
09-05-2018, 04:08 AM
Only reason wwf isnt exactly like that is because the court children. Neck beards are the market tho. Women left a long time ago and the neckbeards refuse to let them come back

While this may be true generally, my wife was a fan back in the day and still checks things out with me during WM season and Summerslam. She hated most everything else but loved the Styles v Joe feud at SS because it was "old school" as she put it, and it was more than just the simplistic "Grr! I don't like you!" and/or "Grr! I want your title!" that's so ridiculously the current product 98% of the time.

Emperor Smeat
09-05-2018, 03:12 PM
According to ShowBuzz Daily, viewership for the pre-show on WGN ended up being around 196k.

slik
09-05-2018, 04:26 PM
I am guessing that is good for WGN

Emperor Smeat
09-05-2018, 04:55 PM
I'd assume so. Ended up being the 85th ranked show for the night and best viewed show for WGN going by ShowBuzz's chart.

http://www.showbuzzdaily.com/articles/showbuzzdailys-top-150-saturday-cable-originals-network-finals-9-1-2018.html

More important is how many of those viewers ended up buying the event after watching a taste of it for free. Even something like TNA levels of 5k-15k gained would be a huge success for All In.

Vastardikai
09-05-2018, 11:18 PM
I want to do a few official takeaways on All In, after stewing for a few days. It's a little all over the place because I am Vastardikai.

I bought the All In replay because I supported the idea of the show, not some of the talent. I am pretty much open in saying that I don't care for Omega or the Dumb Fucks. But I was won over by the idea of a DIY wrestling show that drew the amount of people it drew. And the idea of seeing Pentagon for the first time. I was on the fence the last three days and then decided Friday, "I have to watch this." It wasn't a bad decision.

The last match should have been 4th and the 4th match should have been last I am not saying that because of my antipathy for the Jacksons or because of any love for Cody. This was the biggest Indy Show of All Time, and they gave it what was more or less a House Show Main Event. The main drawing point for the card, beyond the existence of the card itself, was Cody vs. Aldis for the 10 Pounds of Gold.

Ironically, shortening the time made for a better 6 Man match. I am going to go into the timing issues a bit more in a little bit. What I want to mention is the fact that the shorter time made it the best match I had ever seen out of the Bucks. It had a wild pacing with all over the place action that reminded me of the good luchador matches from WCW. And this also made it the perfect 4th match on a card that ended up going last. In essence, it should have stayed at this length but came on the card sooner.

Joey Janela is trash. I've been making this joke since Sunday, but it's true. As a promoter, Joey Janela is a genius. As a wrestler, Joey Janela is a damn good promoter. He was one of the guys whose match went over for time and there really wasn't any benefit for it. Did the match really benefit from the powerbomb off the stage or the Rite of Passage off a ladder through a table? Especially after he already did a Burning Hammer onto a ladder? Do the Burning Hammer spot, roll him into the ring, and go straight to the pin. Only do the Rite of Passage spot, throwing valets, officials, and various "security" around to drill the point home that Page is a sick bastard. Alternatively, maybe tease it and use that to set up the Cockathon as a way to save Janela from having his career ended at the hands of Page. And it doesn't help that I remember what Penelope did more than what Janela did, and that it looked like she hit harder. And this was more dissection than Janela's work deserved.

The match with Pentagon was the first time I actually got the appeal of Kenny Omega. Seriously. Omega didn't do any of the dumb shit that pisses me off, it told a coherent story, and he made Pentagon look strong. It was his best match I have seen (didn't see the 2 out of 3 falls match with Okada), and I don't give a fractional fuck about Meltzer's stars.

Pentagon was the most charismatic guy on the card. Everything about this guy screams star. The look is remarkable. He worked the crowd well. He is amazing in the ring. A smart business man can retire after a few months of selling Pentagon masks at shows. In other words, Vince will find a way to fuck it up.

Okada and Scurrl actually needed the extra time. Unlike the other match that went over time, this match needed that extra time to make it a strong match. It was unprofessional, yes. But it is kind of ironic that a bunch of folks who are big on "Getting their Shit in" having to worry about the consequences of having to "Get all their Shit in."

Basically, the average Indy Fan has the mental age of a 12 year old boy.Liking something bad because it's different? Yep. Cult like following and mindset to something? Yep. Think they know more than they actually do? Yep. Overly Amused by seeing depictions of a penis? Holy Fuck yep.

Innovator
09-06-2018, 10:15 AM
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Evil Vito
09-06-2018, 10:53 AM
Financial numbers from All In according to Meltzer:

Live Gate: $458,525

Merchandise: Every item sold out, no finite numbers from this

FITE: Grossed more than $1 Million between Starrcast and ALL IN iPPV sales.

Starrcast sold 11,000 tickets

Pro Wrestling Tees did just under $500k of t-shirt sales

Highspots had it's biggest merchandise day ever at the convention

PPV Numbers: Not out yet and impossible to predict due to no prior reference point. Google Trends showed that this didn't have mainstream steam, but no wrestling show outside of WWE has shown that in recent memory.

WGN Zero Hour: 196k Viewers. In line with station's top rated prime time shows, even on worst week of the night for TV and not in Prime time.

Overall financial verdict: Grand Slam home run

Innovator
09-06-2018, 10:54 AM
Vendors have said already with the merch that it was the most profitable weekend they've had.

slik
09-06-2018, 10:17 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I liked the <a href="https://twitter.com/JoeyRyanOnline?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@JoeyRyanOnline</a> bit at <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/allin?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#allin</a><br>It's the photography portrait session I am most proud of.<a href="https://twitter.com/ALL_IN_2018?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@ALL_IN_2018</a> <a href="https://t.co/toxQ7WueEF">pic.twitter.com/toxQ7WueEF</a></p>&mdash; James Musselwhite (@Y2jimbob) <a href="https://twitter.com/Y2jimbob/status/1037689006643978240?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 6, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Jordan
09-07-2018, 12:57 PM
I guess I can say that I understand why certain people disliked the Ryan segment at ALL IN but I don't understand the EXTREME hatred of it. Personally I loved it, I thought it was hilarious and creative considering the story on BTE. People lashing out and verbally punching walls over it though, I just don't get. Just move the f on.

slik
09-07-2018, 01:31 PM
I thought it was funny

Vastardikai
09-07-2018, 05:19 PM
I didn't care for it, in part because it pops a bunch of Mark's who are mentally 12. I imagine there is a number of folks who want an alternative to WWE and don't want to see something that Russo wouldn't do because it looks too trashy.

And ultimately, it isn't going to attract new fans.

SNLfunnyguy
09-07-2018, 06:07 PM
Watched the show across three different sittings and I liked it. It was a fun watch and you can tell those involved were having a blast.

xrodmuc316
09-07-2018, 06:29 PM
I didn't care for it, in part because it pops a bunch of Mark's who are mentally 12. I imagine there is a number of folks who want an alternative to WWE and don't want to see something that Russo wouldn't do because it looks too trashy.

And ultimately, it isn't going to attract new fans.

I'm in the same boat. Like am I supposed think dick jokes are the greatest thing ever?

I just don't see the appeal

Fignuts
09-07-2018, 08:39 PM
I can flip how seriously I take wrestling like a switch, which is why I can watch a classic destroyer match, followed immediately by a joey Ryan comedy match and appreciate both for what they are.

Ol Dirty Dastard
09-08-2018, 01:52 PM
I didn't care for it, in part because it pops a bunch of Mark's who are mentally 12. I imagine there is a number of folks who want an alternative to WWE and don't want to see something that Russo wouldn't do because it looks too trashy.

And ultimately, it isn't going to attract new fans.

There's a certain irreverence and self awareness about it I appreciate, even though it's not really my bag. It's much funnier than anything Russo has ever done and would ever do. But I'd be okay if it didn't exist. I think Joey Ryan carved himself a niche and ensured some nice royalties and paycheques he wouldn't have gotten otherwise, because realistically he'd just be some prelim nobody.

Maluco
09-08-2018, 02:50 PM
I think it’s stupid and brings down the whole tone of the show. This was a historic moment for indie wrestling and I think they would have done well to keep the prestigious feel of the night and give it a bit of glamour and class.

Things like that are lowest common demoniator, lower the tone and ultimately, take away the prestige from the rest of the night. It’s ok not to mind it and it OK to find it funny, but people who hated it aren’t in the wrong either. I don’t want Joey Ryan’s blood, but I dislike what he does 100%, and it’s ok to feel that way

Ol Dirty Dastard
09-08-2018, 02:52 PM
I think it’s stupid and brings down the whole tone of the show. This was a historic moment for indie wrestling and I think they would have done well to keep the prestigious feel of the night and give it a bit of glamour and class.

Things like that are lowest common demoniator, lower the tone and ultimately, take away the prestige from the rest of the night. It’s ok not to mind it and it OK to find it funny, but people who hated it aren’t in the wrong either. I don’t want Joey Ryan’s blood, but I dislike what he does 100%, and it’s ok to feel that way

lol who said it wasn't okay to not like it?

Destor
09-08-2018, 02:58 PM
Its too niche.

Maluco
09-08-2018, 06:17 PM
lol who said it wasn't okay to not like it?

Quite a few people if you have read back and forth online. Likes or Cornette get criticized for trashing stuff like this, but he is perfectly within his right to do it. I personally think it sucks and is about as done to death as the new day nowadays, on top of being ridiculous to begin with.

Ol Dirty Dastard
09-08-2018, 06:20 PM
I mean I get not digging it but to act like it's "killing the business". It's a niche gimmick in a niche form of entertainment. In the words of Stone Cold Steve Austin on his podcast all the fucking time, "it was what it was".

Destor
09-08-2018, 07:45 PM
It def used to hurt the business. Not anymore though. Damage done now.

Maluco
09-08-2018, 08:06 PM
I still really feel that people are willing to buy into something and “believe” it’s its intriguing and presented seriously. Take Cody’s moment on the show. After many years of irrelevancy and ridicule, people were still delighted for him to be the NWA Champ. It means something because it was presented that way.

What so many guys like Ryan do, is contribute to the decline of the art form. It might be fun, but it detracts from what’s special about wrestling imo. Makes it impossible to go “ALL IN” with the suspending of disbelief

Bad News Gertner
09-10-2018, 01:05 PM
Lol Global Force Wrestling is promoting the NWA 70th Anniversary Show. Semi Main Event will be Jeff Jarrett vs Alabama Doink

Simple Fan
09-10-2018, 01:08 PM
They basically just help companies get shows on FITE. Shows only $25 , I might get it.

Simple Fan
09-10-2018, 01:10 PM
With this being in Nashville though I'd say Jeff will a main part of the show.

slik
09-10-2018, 01:18 PM
Lol Global Force Wrestling is promoting the NWA 70th Anniversary Show. Semi Main Event will be Jeff Jarrett vs Alabama Doink

Do you think it will sell out?

Would "Alabama Doink" do well in WWE??

Destor
09-10-2018, 01:21 PM
With this being in Nashville though I'd say Jeff will a main part of the show.

Jeff isnt over in Nashville.

Simple Fan
09-10-2018, 01:46 PM
Like that'll stop him from being part the show. He accompanied Aldis to the ring at All In so I could see him getting involved in the rematch.

Emperor Smeat
09-10-2018, 04:58 PM
Apparently Jericho's surprise appearance at All In lead to the grand total of zero extra sales for his cruise so far.

"I found out today that I sold zero cabins yesterday," Jericho said on his podcast a couple of days after All In. "Everyone's watching the pay-per-view [on demand] so hopefully it goes that way."

Think last I read his cruise was selling well but whatever he expected from his All In appearance and Omega match announcement didn't happen.

Still felt being at the event was one of his favorite moments of his career.

"Just being there was huge, the cruise thing, the shirt, the reveal, the Pentagon thing. It was one of the coolest moments of my career and I'm glad I got to do that in the States after doing it in Japan the last couple of times."

slik
09-10-2018, 10:26 PM
Meltzer reported Corgan is thinking about putting the belt on Doink

Tom Guycott
09-12-2018, 12:21 AM
Meltzer reported Corgan is thinking about putting the belt on Doink

Maybe, I mean, that's what I heard... but, y'know... plans change...

Nicky Fives
09-12-2018, 03:41 AM
Downloaded the show but have not watched it yet, not familiar with very many on the card....

hb2k
09-12-2018, 08:22 AM
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Swiss Ultimate
09-12-2018, 01:13 PM
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