WWE Super Showdown

[Jordan]

6 man was good, seems like most liked it more than me. I loved the main event. Classic WWE, those guys are awesome together. Best Taker match I can remember since the Summerslam with Brock or maybe even the last HHH match.

[Evil Vito]

I missed most of the show, but that main event epitomised why I'm only a casual WWE fan now. I can only expect more of this nonsense now that the Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia is head booker.

[xrodmuc316]

Heeling Strowman makes less and less sense every week when you STILL hear Roman getting booed out of the building.

[Lock Jaw]

Just watched the show.... was decent enough....

Am I the only one who has zero interest in seeing HBK coming out of retirement?

[Jordan]

Just watched the show.... was decent enough....

Am I the only one who has zero interest in seeing HBK coming out of retirement?

I can't speak for everyone but theoretically "yes". LOL j/k.

For me I just don't really care about the new stories they are presenting compared to the legacy of HBK, HHH, Taker and Kane. It grabs my interest much more than whatever BS story they are trying to pull off right now. Just not feeling it. Example. How can you have two or three months of Joe/Styles matches and none of them are "AMAZING"? Just doesn't make sense. Sure they were "good" but nothing "AMAZING" and that shit is expected between those guys.

[xrodmuc316]

Just watched the show.... was decent enough....

Am I the only one who has zero interest in seeing HBK coming out of retirement?

For me it is like when Goldberg came back in the sense that they are just wrestling the same people again. Yes Goldberg technically had a match with K.O. but not really.

HBK coming back to wrestle Styles or Joe or Rollins, etc, would be interesting in the dream matches sense.

Coming back to team with HHH and wrestle Taker seems pointless, been there, done that.

[Lock Jaw]

Yeah, I'd be interested if it was him having some one-off matches against younger dudes.

But seeing all these old people out there just slugging it out and ding their thing, it made me realize how much I don't actually want to see that.

[Lock Jaw]

Actually, not sure I'd even like to see him fight younger dudes. Just let his glory days be his glory days, and let a retirement stick in wrestling.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

HBK getting time with Styles, Joe, Rollins and some of their other current guys would be fun. But they aren't likely to do that. Which kills the interest in seeing him.

[Lock Jaw]

I'm just not that into seeing an old bald man saunter out and be called a Kid.

[Stickman]

Kane was absolutely useless. I miss when he was a monster. He’s a cuck now.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Glad Bryan won. That’s about all I can really bring myself to care about. Shawn Michaels coming back is likely to be brilliant though.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

There's a lot of exciting potentials for Michaels. But they're not gonna find that pitting him against what's left of the Undertaker, who, judging by the clip I watched from Raw, is fucking toast. Old, fat, winded, and kind of an embarrassment compared to what he was even a few years ago against Lesnar.

[DAMN iNATOR]

I'm just not that into seeing an old bald man saunter out and be called a Kid.

"The Heartburn Senior" just doesn't have the same ring to it.

Also, pretty underwhelming show. I'd rate it a C-.

PROS
• AJ v. Joe
• Cedric v. Buddy Murphy

CONS
• Unusual 5AM start time ET
• Boring 6-man tag
• 'Taker v. HHH

[xrodmuc316]

There's a lot of exciting potentials for Michaels. But they're not gonna find that pitting him against what's left of the Undertaker, who, judging by the clip I watched from Raw, is fucking toast. Old, fat, winded, and kind of an embarrassment compared to what he was even a few years ago against Lesnar.

I can't blame them for still taking big paydays, but WWE really thinks we still want these guys in the top spots.

Once upon a time they did nothing but rip WCW for pushing a roster of 40 year olds.

Now WWE puts 50 year olds in all the top spots and their roster is FAR older than WCWs ever was.

Take Summerslam for example, not counting the women, the youngest male on the show was 32.

Not counting Alexa Bliss, the youngest woman on the show was 30.

Say what you want about John Cena and Randy Orton, but when you start giving main roster pushes to guys who are still under 25, you have the best chance to ensure you will have stars for a decade plus.

[Jordan]

I really enjoyed HHH and Taker at SSD in Melbourne Australia. I enjoyed the additional layer to the story. I was satisfied with it being finished but also I like this extra unexpected chapter.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Can't tell if Jordan X is being facetious. I've seen Triple H v Taker at 3 different Manias. They were all good to great. Didn't need to see it again when one of the two isn't even in good shape aesthetically, anymore.

I don't even care that Triple H gets in the ring. He looks fucking legit and he's still able to go. I'd rather he be used to put over guys like Reigns, Rollins, Bryan, etc. Same for HBK. We all know he can prob still go. Let him put over the current guard.

I honestly wouldn't against HBK getting the Universaltitle, if it means a good story and him putting someone over for it Mania. Fuck, I'd take him chasing and losing to Reigns at Mania, just because it's a fresh matchup.

Part of what made it fun to watch the Rock in his last run is we got 4 matches between him v Punk and Cena. New stuff. That we'd not seen. That's the appeal of the old guys. Do that.

[Jordan]

No I'm serious I really enjoyed the match and the extra chapter to the story really works and so far hasn't hurt the legend of the rivalry with HHH/Taker/HBK it's really cool to get more of it. I don't really care if HBK goes against some actual guys on the main roster or if it's Taker, having him back is awesome, even if he's oddly bald a with a black thong on his head. Taker was in great shape for this match, you could see the steroid bacne and everything so he was jacked and much quicker than he's been in years. It was cool.

[RP]

I cant get past John Cena's hair. I'll never forget.

[Lock Jaw]

I agree with those who think he looked like a smaller John "Bradshaw" Layfield

[xrodmuc316]

I thought Cenas hair with how much smaller he was sure made him look a lot older.

Sure he is more cut, but he looked frail next to Lashley. Rock did the same thing when he first went to hollywood, just dropped like 30 pounds of muscle.

Cena was so small he didn't even for into him t-shirt, looked more like a kid in the audience than anything else.

[DAMN iNATOR]

I thought Cenas hair with how much smaller he was sure made him look a lot older.

Sure he is more cut, but he looked frail next to Lashley. Rock did the same thing when he first went to hollywood, just dropped like 30 pounds of muscle.

Cena was so small he didn't even for into him t-shirt, looked more like a kid in the audience than anything else.

Yeah, and that "sixth" move of doom looked like the rejected first version of the Hadouken from Street Fighter II. Worst part was we'll never be able to un-see it.

[Tom Guycott]

Say what you want about John Cena and Randy Orton, but when you start giving main roster pushes to guys who are still under 25, you have the best chance to ensure you will have stars for a decade plus.

There is another part to that equation, though: that being WWE expects guys they pick to get that push to be INSTANTLY over and an boundless revenue stream from merch and tickets. They stopped building characters ages ago. They want to hitch their wagons to one talent (deadhorse Reigns) and ride it until the wheels fall off instead of letting 10 guys go out and see what currently works and stoke those flames for future use.

Also, remember, Cena and Orton were "experiments". They weren't even sure they wanted to push those two in spite of being everything they fucking want in a star now. If the company had its way, they'd still have been booking Rock and Austin, and those two would be "what if" hindsight booking contenders.

You'll never really see that new talent push until there is either a regime change, or more likely, another massive round of overlapping walk-offs and injuries and they scramble to try to rewrite everything to hotshot guys they should have been slow burning up the card the entire time.

[Anybody Thrilla]

I honestly thought this was a pretty solid show, but the main event fucking sucked ass.

[Cool King]

Thank you.

I've been somewhat scratching my head reading Jordan X's posts and wondering if he was being serious or not because the main event was absolutely awful.

The majority of the match was basically two old men flailing about in the ring gasping for air. It didn't help that you could clearly hear everyone calling spots during the entire match.

The inclusion of Kane was just mind boggling as he did absolutely nothing other than just stand there like a spare prick. Even when Michaels was interfering, Kane just either stood and watched or walked over to him and looked at him.

The money Kane got must have been great because why would anyone bother traveling halfway around the world to just stand for twenty minutes whilst wearing a mask and wrestling gear.

I think the match was a horrible way to end the whole "Undertaker/Triple H" thing and it really should have been left alone after WrestleMania XXVIII but if people enjoyed it, then that's cool. I just like that I now know that I'm not the only one here that thought that match really sucked.

I really can't be doing with more HBK though. I like the guy and all that but seeing him (potentially) back in the ring doesn't interest me at all. These days, he's not really the Shawn Michaels we all know. He's now some bald old man who walks around somewhat gingerly and wears questionable headgear.

[Cool King]

The whole event itself was pretty "meh" though but that's probably because I really wasn't interested in the majority of the matches. I think my interest was only really in three or four of the matches and one of them only lasted two minutes.

It was just one big glorified house show, really.

[Cool King]

He's now some bald old man who walks around somewhat gingerly and wears questionable headgear.

Cue Hulk Hogan jokes.

[Anybody Thrilla]

Buddy Murphy and Cedric Alexander are both dope.

[Simple Fan]

Watched AJ/Joe, the six man, and Taker/HHH. Liked all three matches and I thought the Taker vs HHH match was the best.

[Anybody Thrilla]

But fucking HOW?

[Simple Fan]

Watched AJ/Joe, the six man, and Taker/HHH. Liked all three matches and I thought the Taker vs HHH match was the best.

But fucking HOW?



HHH is one of the best in ring performers ever and Undertaker looked good in my opinion. Plus the story they told with Shawn and Undertaker throughout was golden. Nothing else on the show topped what they did in that match.

[Anybody Thrilla]

I don't get it.

[Simple Fan]

Granted I didn't watch the whole show but I don't get how you weren't into that match.

[Anybody Thrilla]

It was slow, boring, shenanigan-filled for no reason, Kane was still wearing a wig...not really sure what there was to like. It was embarrassing watching people past their prime act like nothing was wrong with what they were doing. It was an abomination.

[screech]

I love Kane. He is my favorite wrestler ever.

But he didn't really add anything to that match at all. And it was a match that could've used things added to it. I'm glad people enjoyed it, but it was a rough one.

[xrodmuc316]

There is another part to that equation, though: that being WWE expects guys they pick to get that push to be INSTANTLY over and an boundless revenue stream from merch and tickets. They stopped building characters ages ago. They want to hitch their wagons to one talent (deadhorse Reigns) and ride it until the wheels fall off instead of letting 10 guys go out and see what currently works and stoke those flames for future use.

Also, remember, Cena and Orton were "experiments". They weren't even sure they wanted to push those two in spite of being everything they fucking want in a star now. If the company had its way, they'd still have been booking Rock and Austin, and those two would be "what if" hindsight booking contenders.

You'll never really see that new talent push until there is either a regime change, or more likely, another massive round of overlapping walk-offs and injuries and they scramble to try to rewrite everything to hotshot guys they should have been slow burning up the card the entire time.

I disagree somewhat, mostly about the new stars. WWE decided that to get one class of trainees and they were going to give them spots and protect and build them.

They could do that whenever they want, they just dont.

I used Cena and Orton cause they were young and have been around over 15 years, but they also got Batista and Shelton from that class. Brick as well, but they have him the ball immediately so he is just a different situation.

Instead of bringing guys up from NXT and have them get better and better for a year or 2, they instantly get a half hearted push that goes nowhere, then they are just there a few months later.

[Simple Fan]

It was slow, boring, shenanigan-filled for no reason, Kane was still wearing a wig...not really sure what there was to like. It was embarrassing watching people past their prime act like nothing was wrong with what they were doing. It was an abomination.

If that match was boring I'm not sure what you found entertaining about that show. They may be old but they understand pro wrestling better than any current roster member. The progression and story told during that match topped anything on the card.

Especially when you take into account that the next night they announce a DX vs Brothers of Destruction match and the one thing the six man sold was the Shield's unity but they blew that away on Raw.

[Simple Fan]

You're hung up on Kane wearing a wig?

[Anybody Thrilla]

Firstly, you didn't watch Lynch/Charlotte or Murphy/Alexander, so pump your brakes.

Secondly, yes, that wig is fucking stupid.

[Simple Fan]

I seen the finish of both. Don't care anout either though. Haven't watched a second of 205 Live and the Charlotte/Becky fued is just backwards. Charlotte is a natural herl while Becky is everyone's favorite, it makes no sense.

[Simple Fan]

I don't get how you are so torn on a wig though. It'd be stupid looking having a bald Kane with a mask.

[Anybody Thrilla]

At least I watched and understand the backstory of the match that I think sucked. You'd probably like 205 Live, but your loss, I guess.

And they're really not forcing a dynamic on the Charlotte/Becky feud. The shit's been good, and the matches have been great.

[Anybody Thrilla]

I don't get how you are so torn on a wig though. It'd be stupid looking having a bald Kane with a mask.

Not when everyone knows that he's fucking bald already and the wig LOOKS so fake that it's distracting.

As for a bald Kane with a mask, that would have a lovely Jason Vorhees feel to it. They should give it a try.

Would you like Shawn Michaels to put on a fucking wig too?

[Simple Fan]

At least I watched and understand the backstory of the match that I think sucked. You'd probably like 205 Live, but your loss, I guess.

And they're really not forcing a dynamic on the Charlotte/Becky feud. The shit's been good, and the matches have been great.

I didn't say the match sucked. It just doesn't touch what HHH/Undertaker did. There is a reason that WWE keeps calling these guys back to the ring and its because they are better than the damn cruiserweight division or even their main event scene.

I've watched the Becky/Charlotte stuff and they are definitely trying to make Becky the heel. Deny it all you want but its pretty obvious.

[Anybody Thrilla]

So fucking what if Becky's a heel? Her character is so much better now. Heel/face doesn't even matter so much anymore. People can cheer for anyone without it ruining the show.

[Anybody Thrilla]

Think about how Roman can get the biggest heel reaction or the biggest face reaction in any given city.

And I'd much, much, MUCH rather watch Buddy Murphy v. Cedric Alexander a hundred times that whatever the fuck that was on Saturday in the main event.

[Simple Fan]

Not when everyone knows that he's fucking bald already and the wig LOOKS so fake that it's distracting.

As for a bald Kane with a mask, that would have a lovely Jason Vorhees feel to it. They should give it a try.

Would you like Shawn Michaels to put on a fucking wig too?

Kane is a character same as Jason Vorhees is. He's known for the mask and hair so you don't change it when going for nostalgia. You sound like a mark that is responsible for ruining kayfabe.

[Anybody Thrilla]

What the fuck are you talking about? You were a gigantic fan of Broken Matt Hardy and you want to talk to me about RUINING KAYFABE??? Fuck off with that nonsense.

Shawn Michaels has always had long hair. They're not gonna put a wig on him. Triple H used to have long hair. They haven't put a wig on him. KANE HAS BEEN BALD ON TV BEFORE. Arguably, during his best run. Evolve or perish. Don't be a fucking dick about it.

[Simple Fan]

So fucking what if Becky's a heel? Her character is so much better now. Heel/face doesn't even matter so much anymore. People can cheer for anyone without it ruining the show.

She's not a heel though. Her story is your typical underdog story. She's been in the shadow of Charlotte for a while and finally wants to break out. Why should I hate her for that? On top of that Charlotte has been a heel most of her career and I have no reason to really cheer for her.

I don't care what you say, if people cheer the heels and boo the babyfaces than shit isn't working.

[Anybody Thrilla]

She's not a heel though. Her story is your typical underdog story. She's been in the shadow of Charlotte for a while and finally wants to break out. Why should I hate her for that? On top of that Charlotte has been a heel most of her career and I have no reason to really cheer for her.

I don't care what you say, if people cheer the heels and boo the babyfaces than shit isn't working.

Life has gray areas. Characters have layers. If you don't think it's working, why don't you listen to the (good) reactions Becky was getting then and compare them to the (great) reactions that Becky is getting now.

[Simple Fan]

What the fuck are you talking about? You were a gigantic fan of Broken Matt Hardy and you want to talk to me about RUINING KAYFABE??? Fuck off with that nonsense.

Shawn Michaels has always had long hair. They're not gonna put a wig on him. Triple H used to have long hair. They haven't put a wig on him. KANE HAS BEEN BALD ON TV BEFORE. Arguably, during his best run. Evolve or perish. Don't be a fucking dick about it.

You had to keep kayfabe to be a fan of the Matt Hardy stuff. He didn't ruin it he was trying to bring it back. Do you think Undertaker is really a zombie mortician? No but through kayfabe you accept the character for what it is. Kayfabe is about keeping with the character/story and that is what WWE has done with particular story. They don't seem to be able to do it with their current talent though.

[Simple Fan]

Life has gray areas. Characters have layers. If you don't think it's working, why don't you listen to the (good) reactions Becky was getting then and compare them to the (great) reactions that Becky is getting now.

I agree and Becky works best in that grey area but WWE presents her as a bad guy on TV. WWE themselves ignore the reactions that fans give so why should I care about them?

[Anybody Thrilla]

And what great story were they telling in that main event? Here's how the story seemed to me. And I'm going to talk completely from a point keeping kayfabe in tact:

Tripe H and Undertaker had a match seven and a half years ago (rife with shennanigans, and plenty of Shawn Micahels action) while both of the legendary competitors were nearing the end of their careers, but they still had something left in the tank. Something that was to all be left in the ring, and something that was to signify "The End of an Era". The match was incredible, and a fitting end to a storied rivalry. One people will speak of forever.

Fast forward to a month ago or so, and the two are scheduled to wrestle AGAIN for...I dunno, they never really said what for. They just said it was going to happen, even though Triple H wears a suit to work every day and the Undertaker has lost twice at Wrestlemania between near death experiences and hip replacements, or whatever the fuck. This match is billed as "The Last Time Ever". They have the match (rife with shennanigans, and plenty of Shawn Michaels action), but at least one of the competitors is in piss shape, and much of the match is spent with both competitors taking very long rests.

Now we're scheduled for those same people from The End of an Era who had already been in the ring together for The Last Time Ever to be involved in yet another match with a man who SWORE HE WOULD NEVER COME OUT OF RETIREMENT and a WELL PAST HIS PRIME brother who refuses to GET A FUCKING HAIRCUT.

Don't talk to me about ruining kayfabe.

[Simple Fan]

I didn't see all the Shawn Michaels shenanigans you say. The way I seen it was they teased Taker/Shawn with Shawn not really wanting to get involved until he seen fit. Shawn didn't have alot to do with the match until the finish. HHH and Undertaker put on a great match and that's what made the show of respect form HHH and Shawn mean so much before Taker and Kane took them out. That was one of the best matches I've seen this year and I watch alot of wrestling.

[Anybody Thrilla]

How's this for a story?

Cedric Alexander has been scratching and clawing to get into WWE his whole career. He sees an opportunity in a Cruiserweight Classic tournament that he has to lose twenty pounds to even be eligible to compete in. He comes up short in the quarterfinals, but his impressive performance encourages the entire audience to chant "HIRE CEDRIC" so loud that the boss has no choice but to come out and acknowledge him with a hand raise. His dreams come true as he does get hired, and after a fairly long wrong, he captures the Cruiserweight title at Wrestlemania in a match against his good friend. He defends that championship valiantly on a regular basis and is UNDEFEATED in the year 2018, widely heralded as the most fighting Cruiserweight champion in its short history.

On the other side, you see Buddy Murphy, a man who saw very early success in the start of his WWE career, capturing tag gold with Wesley Blake and having a good run. After that run however, he was shoved to the side and all but forgotten about, though his talent was undeniable. Seeing an opportunity to capture glory again, Murphy gets in the best shape of his life and cuts weight to join the 205 Live roster as it's "Best Kept Secret". He goes on a tear, toppling foe after foe in an attempt to capture the Cruiserweight championship, ultimately falling JUST a bit short on a couple opportunities, most notably against current champion, Cedric Alexander. With a fire that has never left his belly, he secures a number one contendership on a show in his HOME TOWN that the company hasn't had a televised show in thirteen years. The entire country is on his back, so it's now or never.

That's simple. That's effective. Both men are in the best shape of their careers. It's that easy.

But marks like you would rather see Kane in a wig.

[Anybody Thrilla]

I didn't see all the Shawn Michaels shenanigans you say. The way I seen it was they teased Taker/Shawn with Shawn not really wanting to get involved until he seen fit. Shawn didn't have alot to do with the match until the finish. HHH and Undertaker put on a great match and that's what made the show of respect form HHH and Shawn mean so much before Taker and Kane took them out. That was one of the best matches I've seen this year and I watch alot of wrestling.

Why did Shawn HAVE to set up that table, for one?

[Anybody Thrilla]

Did he HAVE to superkick Undertaker?

[Simple Fan]

Yeah because who cares about Cedric Alexander and Buddy Murphy. They probably have a great story and quality booking but as soon as you started describing their story I tuned out. I have no reason to care about these cruiserweights anymore now that they are not on Raw. They're just there in my opinion and something I have to search for if I want to watch which I don't find alot of time to do.

[Anybody Thrilla]

What about any of that makes me a mark destroying kayfabe then?

[Anybody Thrilla]

If you FOLLOW a good story, you'll ENJOY a good story. I understand not following it, as life happens, but I've happened to follow both of the stories we're talking about every step of the way, and I know which one I enjoyed more ON THE SAME FUCKING SHOW.

[Anybody Thrilla]

And no matter WHAT you're watching, Kane's fucking wig is STUPID.

[Simple Fan]

Why did Shawn HAVE to set up that table, for one?

Did he HAVE to superkick Undertaker?

To help HHH, duh. He didn't get involved and ntil the finish of that match. Before hand it was Taker taunting Shawn trying to get him to do something. Also from the start of the match with HHH changing it to a no DQ and the look Taker give him with HHH's preceding nod. It was just good old school wrestling in my opinion.

[Simple Fan]

What about any of that makes me a mark destroying kayfabe then?

That you can't believe Kane has hair while in character.

[Anybody Thrilla]

It's not that I can't believe it. It's just that he's been on screen in the same show WITHOUT the hair. And it looks really, really, really fucking stupid. If you were watching a movie with a monster, could you get as into it if you could see the monster's zipper sticking out on his costume the entire time? If there's no way to make it look good, get fucking rid of it.

[Anybody Thrilla]

I literally watched Clown directly after Raw tonight, and I knew that it wasn't real, but it wasn't so shitty looking that it distracted me from the action. That fucking wig that Kane wears is.

[Simple Fan]

It's not that I can't believe it. It's just that he's been on screen in the same show WITHOUT the hair. And it looks really, really, really fucking stupid. If you were watching a movie with a monster, could you get as into it if you could see the monster's zipper sticking out on his costume the entire time? If there's no way to make it look good, get fucking rid of it.

But Kane still looks good with the hair. Way better than he did bald, plus its well known Kane's mask includes hair.

[Anybody Thrilla]

Meanwhile, Kane would probably look twice as intimidating both bald AND with the mask. Frustrating. Like talking to you about this.

[Anybody Thrilla]

But Kane still looks good with the hair. Way better than he did bald, plus its well known Kane's mask includes hair.

Good is subjective. Kane looks good with hair that doesn't look so fucking stupid. I'm done with this, though. Glad you enjoyed that dumb match that sucked. See you in the Impact thread.

[Simple Fan]

Kane only looks good bald without the mask. Feel like he wouldn't look scary without hair while wearing the mask.

[Simple Fan]

Good is subjective. Kane looks good with hair that doesn't look so fucking stupid. I'm done with this, though. Glad you enjoyed that dumb match that sucked. See you in the Impact thread.

Honestly Kane's hair has never stuck out to me so I just seen that as a weird gripe. Also hell yeah, we can argue about how good the LAX/OGz feud has been.

[Jordan]

If that match was boring I'm not sure what you found entertaining about that show. They may be old but they understand pro wrestling better than any current roster member. The progression and story told during that match topped anything on the card.

Especially when you take into account that the next night they announce a DX vs Brothers of Destruction match and the one thing the six man sold was the Shield's unity but they blew that away on Raw.

Yesssss, this.

[Jordan]

I liked Cedric and Buddy, was a good undercard match. But the main event was a proper WWE main, I loved it. Don’t get the hatred for it, especially Thrilla’s vehement discust.

[Cool King]

It was slow, boring, shenanigan-filled for no reason, Kane was still wearing a wig...not really sure what there was to like. It was embarrassing watching people past their prime act like nothing was wrong with what they were doing. It was an abomination.

Exactly.

I'm Team Thrilla over here.

[Cool King]

But really, I completely get what ABT is getting at when it comes to Kane's wig.

I wouldn't call it "stupid" myself but there are times where I ask myself "why does Kane still wear a wig?".

[Mr. Nerfect]

It's so fucking weird with Kane. They clearly want him to be this nostalgic character, but they put him a mock outfit from his 2002/2003 period where they completely shat on the gimmick. Like, I know he doesn't like working in the full face mask and I'm sure not having the sleeve is a lot more comfortable, but he's not going out there and working the 2001 Royal Rumble every week now. Pop him in either new attire or his classic original outfit (which might look weird without the hair).

I dunno, it's just so weird how the WWE goes about nostalgia sometimes.

[xrodmuc316]

Not when everyone knows that he's fucking bald already and the wig LOOKS so fake that it's distracting.

As for a bald Kane with a mask, that would have a lovely Jason Vorhees feel to it. They should give it a try.

Would you like Shawn Michaels to put on a fucking wig too?

The wig is part of the gimmick. Going back to when he first unmasked, his hair was real until that day. He then cut his hair so when he took the mask off it was supposed to be about how he got burned.

Yes we all know it's fake, but it's supposed to be fake. It's no different than wearing tape to sell and injury.

Shawn Michaels wearing a wig would be stupid because it would just be Shawn Michaels wearing a wig.

[Lock Jaw]

I didn't see all the Shawn Michaels shenanigans you say. The way I seen it was they teased Taker/Shawn with Shawn not really wanting to get involved until he seen fit. Shawn didn't have alot to do with the match until the finish.

Did we watch the same match? Pretty much from the start of the match it seemed "obvious" that HBK wasn't there to watch and support HHH in a "fair fight", but that he was out there to distract Taker and interfere. (While Kane was there to counter him, but mostly just stood around and let him)

Which is why I don't get why they were so angry with Taker/Kane beating them up.

"How dare you not show us respect after we built this up as a fight between two legendary figures for the last time ever, but then instead of a fair one on one contest we teamed up to beat you!"

I know technically it wasn't against the rules, but it was pretty "immediate" that HBK wasn't out there just to support his friend, but to help him win.

[Mr. Nerfect]

The wig is part of the gimmick. Going back to when he first unmasked, his hair was real until that day. He then cut his hair so when he took the mask off it was supposed to be about how he got burned.

Yes we all know it's fake, but it's supposed to be fake. It's no different than wearing tape to sell and injury.

Shawn Michaels wearing a wig would be stupid because it would just be Shawn Michaels wearing a wig.

When Kane had long hair, it was long hair. Lol, it's pretty much exactly the same thing as Shawn Michaels dressing up as what he used to look like.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Pretty ridiculous that Taker and Triple H used to mock the WCW guys for being too old. When Piper and Hogan had the Cage Match at Halloween Havoc '97, Piper was 43 and Hogan was 44. When Triple H and Taker vetoed Flair coming in in 1998, because he was too old, he was 49.

For those wondering, Taker/Trips in Melbourne had a combined age of 15 years on the Hogan/Piper cage.

[DrA]

Triple H at 49 is in better shape than Hogan and Piper were at 43 though. He has no business hogging the spotlight at this point in his career, but I don't get that old man way past his prime feel from him.

[Mr. Nerfect]

In better shape? Maybe. He's not as over as either of them were though. I think he's starting to feel his age.

[DrA]

I haven't seen this recent match he just had with Undertaker, so that might change my perception of him. Those Hogan/Piper matches in WCW were so ridiculously bad though, I can't imagine Triple H or even Undertaker in the shape he's in now ever getting to that level of flaming garbage.

[Simple Fan]

Did we watch the same match? Pretty much from the start of the match it seemed "obvious" that HBK wasn't there to watch and support HHH in a "fair fight", but that he was out there to distract Taker and interfere. (While Kane was there to counter him, but mostly just stood around and let him)

Which is why I don't get why they were so angry with Taker/Kane beating them up.

"How dare you not show us respect after we built this up as a fight between two legendary figures for the last time ever, but then instead of a fair one on one contest we teamed up to beat you!"

I know technically it wasn't against the rules, but it was pretty "immediate" that HBK wasn't out there just to support his friend, but to help him win.

Didn't see it that way at all. HBK didn't really get involved until the finish. Taker was taunting him throughout the match and HBK would stay on the outside doing nothing.

[Anybody Thrilla]

He was involved pretty much the whole time. Explain that table spot.

[Simple Fan]

He stopped Kane after Kane grabbed HHH's leg. Taker was trying to get him to do something throughout the match but Shawn waited for a moment Taker wasn't expecting.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I heard Shawn was bumping all over the place and getting thrown out of the ring, put through tables, etc.