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Mr. Nerfect
10-29-2018, 09:50 PM
Jesus fucking Christ, I don't want to put up with this bullshit. We had a private exchange and thought we were past this crap. Just because I talk about women, doesn't mean I am not sensitive. If I find something heartwarming, I will go out of my fucking way to say that it is adorable. I am not ashamed of being who I am. Stop with this FFS
I said:
"No worries. It's nothing truly personal. Just the internet. I don't take these boards as seriously as I do my wrestling. I appreciate you reaching out. All the best."
Sorry to personally offend you again. I didn't mean it as such. I obviously don't know you, and I thought the outrageous nature of my comment would speak for itself. Like I don't take it personally when Swiss is going off about Nazis and whatever the fuck bullshit he is. If it didn't and it hit close to home for whatever reason, I'll have you know that I have no evidence.
Mr. Nerfect
10-29-2018, 09:51 PM
And if they find the conversation displeasing just leave it. I do it all the time. If i find my self getting worked up irl i just take a few days off from it and see if i still care later.
Its not difficult. The ego of demanding that you be right and abuse of requiring himself to have the last word is disgusting.
I've needed to do that too, but it can be a hard skill to learn. Some people can master that easier than others.
Swiss Ultimate
10-29-2018, 09:51 PM
I get why Smeat is upset by this. It's fucking gross and it's a waste of time talking about why. But I don't mind letting Swiss' bullshit speak for itself either.
lol. "It's fucking gross!"
God you're a sore pair of testicles aren't you?
Tpww has always demanded thick skin. Day one
Except for Gertner apparently. A guy who went out of his way to troll others for years and he had to resort to going to his safe space.
i feel like a bunch of grown men should be able to argue and take a conversation wherever they want.
NOT ALLOWED.
I don't think anyone threatened anyone
Meatball threatened ME with a ban for not behaving the way he wanted me to.
i feel like a bunch of grown men should be able to argue and take a conversation wherever they want.
There's merit to what you're saying but the amount of toxicity can be overwhelming at times. Putting people on the ignore list just waters down the conversation leading to confusion. A lot of conflicting thoughts.
There's merit to what you're saying but the amount of toxicity can be overwhelming at times. Putting people on the ignore list just waters down the conversation leading to confusion. A lot of conflicting thoughts.
Maybe some of us are not strong enough to post here.
Destor
10-29-2018, 09:55 PM
There's merit to what you're saying but the amount of toxicity can be overwhelming at times. Putting people on the ignore list just waters down the conversation leading to confusion. A lot of conflicting thoughts.
The problem with "toxicity" as one will find the opposite of what you find toxic to be toxic. You arent rignt because youre offended.
Swiss Ultimate
10-29-2018, 09:56 PM
I thought the outrageous nature of my comment would speak for itself.
:lol:
I'll give you a piece of advice Noid. Don't apologize. Especially when it makes you look like a hypocrite tool who can't see that the outrageous nature of comments speak for themselves.
Savio
10-29-2018, 09:58 PM
You, what do you own the world?
How do you own disorder, disorder?
Mr. Nerfect
10-29-2018, 09:59 PM
Part of free speech is being able to walk away from conversations you don't want to participate in too. I may not be able to tell someone what to think or say, but they can't force me to actively listen to them either.
I think the suggestion that people think they are right because they are offended is a non-sequitur. People are often offended when you ignore evidence and the like. It's a dismissal of someone because they don't like something along with not agreeing with it. That's too easy.
Destor
10-29-2018, 10:01 PM
Part of free speech is being able to walk away from conversations you don't want to participate in too. I may not be able to tell someone what to think or say, but they can't force me to actively listen to them either.
I think the suggestion that people think they are right because they are offended is a non-sequitur. People are often offended when you ignore evidence and the like. It's a dismissal of someone because they don't like something along with not agreeing with it. That's too easy.
That comment was directly a commentary on the nature of this buzzword
Swiss Ultimate
10-29-2018, 10:01 PM
Part of free speech is being able to walk away from conversations you don't want to participate in too. I may not be able to tell someone what to think or say, but they can't force me to actively listen to them either.
I think the suggestion that people think they are right because they are offended is a non-sequitur. People are often offended when you ignore evidence and the like. It's a dismissal of someone because they don't like something along with not agreeing with it. That's too easy.
That's not part of free speech. That's free choice.
Your defense of people claiming to be offended to win an argument is noted, however.
Mr. Nerfect
10-29-2018, 10:01 PM
:lol:
I'll give you a piece of advice Noid. Don't apologize. Especially when it makes you look like a hypocrite tool who can't see that the outrageous nature of comments speak for themselves.
I don't mind apologizing. I didn't mean to hurt Dave's feelings. Honestly, I don't feel good about it. I thought, given that I've told him my ragging on him is nothing personal, he wouldn't take it personally, but that was short-sighted of me. My fault.
I did suggest that I thought the outrageous nature of comments speak for themselves. How does that make me a hypocrite, exactly?
Destor
10-29-2018, 10:02 PM
Often you see this word as a blanket judgement of morality above refute. "Attitude is toxic therefore i win"
Swiss Ultimate
10-29-2018, 10:02 PM
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Ol Dirty Dastard
10-29-2018, 10:02 PM
There's merit to what you're saying but the amount of toxicity can be overwhelming at times. Putting people on the ignore list just waters down the conversation leading to confusion. A lot of conflicting thoughts.
Hmm... maybe you just need to stop being a fucking wimp and deal with other people's worldview like an adult instead of a feeble fetus of a man child.
The problem with "toxicity" as one will find the opposite of what you find toxic to be toxic. You arent rignt because youre offended.
That is on point. I need to identify that about myself and walkaway when I am not comfortable. I don't need to participate.
Swiss Ultimate
10-29-2018, 10:03 PM
I did suggest that I thought the outrageous nature of comments speak for themselves. How does that make me a hypocrite, exactly?
Can you possibly figure this one out on your own? Could you possibly be self-aware of how your own assumptions have lead you to be offended by statements of an outrageous nature?
Mr. Nerfect
10-29-2018, 10:04 PM
That's not part of free speech. That's free choice.
Your defense of people claiming to be offended to win an argument is noted, however.
Lol, I'm well within my right to implement my free choice then. Fuck you, kindly. I didn't claim that people claiming to be offended to win an argument are correct, I'm just stating that it's possible to be right and offended or wrong and offended, and the causal link doesn't need to be drawn the other way anymore than it needs to be the first.
Swiss Ultimate
10-29-2018, 10:06 PM
That is on point. I need to identify that about myself and walkaway when I am not comfortable. I don't need to participate.
THAT'S THE WRONG LESSON TO LEARN, FUCKWIT.
You find that cognitive dissonance and you track it down. It's a fucking bitch, but unless you face the things that make you uncomfortable and challenge your deeply held beliefs you will never grow up. You will always be a child until you stop running away at the first sign of a different world view.
Mr. Nerfect
10-29-2018, 10:06 PM
Can you possibly figure this one out on your own? Could you possibly be self-aware of how your own assumptions have lead you to be offended by statements of an outrageous nature?
You're projecting a lot again. I've been playing with you for a few pages now. If I didn't want to come in here I wouldn't. I'm not taking you seriously. I don't think you're joking, mind, but I'm not taking you seriously.
Hmm... maybe you just need to stop being a fucking wimp and deal with other people's worldview like an adult instead of a feeble fetus of a man child.
How is that helpful, Dale? You're constantly belittling someone who already feels defeated. I don't want to go through the loop again.
Swiss Ultimate
10-29-2018, 10:08 PM
Lol, I'm well within my right to implement my free choice then. Fuck you, kindly. I didn't claim that people claiming to be offended to win an argument are correct, I'm just stating that it's possible to be right and offended or wrong and offended, and the causal link doesn't need to be drawn the other way anymore than it needs to be the first.
Yes. You're also dumb to give any credence to being offended. Emotions have nothing to do with truth. You trying to sound smart though, is kind of funny.
Mr. Nerfect
10-29-2018, 10:08 PM
THAT'S THE WRONG LESSON TO LEARN, FUCKWIT.
You find that cognitive dissonance and you track it down. It's a fucking bitch, but unless you face the things that make you uncomfortable and challenge your deeply held beliefs you will never grow up. You will always be a child until you stop running away at the first sign of a different world view.
Hahaha, just don't do what Pit Barrel King does and call things cognitive dissonance that aren't and use it to reaffirm your self-defeating biases. Otherwise you end up a blind mouse confusing smegma for cheese.
Destor
10-29-2018, 10:09 PM
Yes. You're also dumb to give any credence to being offended. Emotions have nothing to do with truth. You trying to sound smart though, is kind of funny.
this was my point
Ol Dirty Dastard
10-29-2018, 10:10 PM
How is that helpful, Dale? You're constantly belittling someone who already feels defeated. I don't want to go through the loop again.
lol I don't care about your feelings, Dave. When you post absolute bullshit about "toxicity" being too much, expect the same result.
Destor
10-29-2018, 10:10 PM
I dont actually know what swiss and noid are debating, ftr
Mr. Nerfect
10-29-2018, 10:11 PM
Yes. You're also dumb to give any credence to being offended. Emotions have nothing to do with truth. You trying to sound smart though, is kind of funny.
They're different scales. Just because you care deeply about something doesn't mean it's false. Caring about something doesn't give it objective or rational truth though. But the idea that emotion must somehow be defeated? Fucking nonsense.
You're also the least logical person in this thread, ironically.
Ol Dirty Dastard
10-29-2018, 10:11 PM
I dont actually know what swiss and noid are debating, ftr
lol there was never a chance in hell i was going to read any of it.
Swiss Ultimate
10-29-2018, 10:12 PM
You're projecting a lot again. I've been playing with you for a few pages now. If I didn't want to come in here I wouldn't. I'm not taking you seriously. I don't think you're joking, mind, but I'm not taking you seriously.
Zeeboe levels of delusion here. Mind-reading nonsense.
I don't think projection is a real thing either. It's just satisfying to claim that the person accusing you of something is actually the one guilty of it.
I also don't think you're capable of playing with anyone. You're most likely a person who is very easy to get a rise out of.
lol I don't care about your feelings, Dave. When you post absolute bullshit about "toxicity" being too much, expect the same result.
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Mr. Nerfect
10-29-2018, 10:13 PM
I dont actually know what swiss and noid are debating, ftr
Hahaha, it fell apart a while ago. I suck at keeping things on track sometimes. But I tried. Basically, Pit Barrel King thinks that being a racist is fine. I think (I'm not saying that facetiously -- that's what I've gathered).
Swiss Ultimate
10-29-2018, 10:14 PM
Hahaha, just don't do what Pit Barrel King does and call things cognitive dissonance that aren't and use it to reaffirm your self-defeating biases. Otherwise you end up a blind mouse confusing smegma for cheese.
They're different scales. Just because you care deeply about something doesn't mean it's false. Caring about something doesn't give it objective or rational truth though. But the idea that emotion must somehow be defeated? Fucking nonsense.
You're also the least logical person in this thread, ironically.
You're like the least qualified person to make any of these assertions. Nobody actually thinks you're intelligent and not just because you're an Australian white supremacist.
Mr. Nerfect
10-29-2018, 10:14 PM
Zeeboe levels of delusion here. Mind-reading nonsense.
I don't think projection is a real thing either. It's just satisfying to claim that the person accusing you of something is actually the one guilty of it.
I also don't think you're capable of playing with anyone. You're most likely a person who is very easy to get a rise out of.
I'll change my word. "You're accusing me of that without knowing it." There we go. Sorry that word offends you.
Ol Dirty Dastard
10-29-2018, 10:20 PM
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https://frinkiac.com/video/S06E15/FDAN_LsH1fZh4nDYK_3GvRU42HA=.gif
Swiss Ultimate
10-29-2018, 10:25 PM
I'll change my word. "You're accusing me of that without knowing it." There we go. Sorry that word offends you.
That's not what projection is.
Swiss Ultimate
10-29-2018, 10:26 PM
Noid uses terms he doesn't understand to sound smart. Just like Saudi Royalty.
Triple A
10-29-2018, 10:34 PM
I did actually but he had triple a delete them so i cant now.
I didn't delete anything?
Destor
10-29-2018, 10:35 PM
There are (were?) Posts that read "deleted by triple a"
Destor
10-29-2018, 10:36 PM
So unless you gave your pass out...
SlickyTrickyDamon
10-29-2018, 10:37 PM
Don't take anybody with 2 posts seriously. Probably a Russian bot
Triple A
10-29-2018, 10:39 PM
There are (were?) Posts that read "deleted by triple a"
Which posts? In this thread?
Destor
10-29-2018, 10:40 PM
All the deleted posts from this thread have either been reinstated or moved in a way so they dont leave a stamp.
I just went back looking for them and there's no longer any moderation stamps in the thread and there was a dozen or so on page 11
Triple A
10-29-2018, 10:42 PM
If you restored them, they don't leave a stamp I don't think. I def didn't delete / move / do anything in this thread though, idk. Maybe another mod moved them though
Triple A
10-29-2018, 10:45 PM
Oh just looked in the "log" and it was posts by slik where he was posting about Evolution accidentally in this thread, and DTTS replied to his post telling him it was the wrong thread. I moved slik's posts to the Evolution thread and deleted the DTTS post since it didn't make sense obviously
Savio
10-29-2018, 10:45 PM
Maybe Smeat moved them to the darkness forum.
Destor
10-29-2018, 10:46 PM
And all the previously deleted posts have been restored...rightfully
Swiss Ultimate
10-29-2018, 10:55 PM
And all the previously deleted posts have been restored...rightfully
Team Simple Fan has won...for now.
So, probably not the right thread to discuss this, but, Cena definitely off the show, any news on Bryan?
So, probably not the right thread to discuss this, but, Cena definitely off the show, any news on Bryan?
I just posted this in the Dirty Sheets thread:
While WWE has not officially confirmed Bryan's status, PWInsider.com has confirmed that Bryan made it clear he would not be traveling to the event and WWE began making alternative plans last week.
WWE were making plans to have the Styles and Bryan bout take place at the WWE Performance Center and then airing it during the Crown Jewel broadcast on Friday. However, those plans were scrapped.
Bryan is advertised to face off with Styles on tonight's Smackdown Live broadcast, so the company has several choices in front of them. They could run an angle to take Bryan out of the match and have AJ Styles face someone else at Crown Jewel (we've heard Rusev's name mentioned as a possible replacement) or simply tape the Styles vs. Bryan match at tonight's taping to insert into the Crown Jewel broadcast. The company could also change direction and have the match on Smackdown tonight in order to close out the storyline and move Styles on to another challenger. They have several options open to them as of this writing and we are told no final decision had been made as of last night.
https://www.pwinsider.com/ViewArticle.php?id=121389
Swiss Ultimate
10-30-2018, 11:53 AM
It would be awesome if Bryan showed up unannounced at Crown Jewel.
WHAT'S BRYAN DOING IN SAUDI ARABIA???
Swiss Ultimate
10-30-2018, 12:04 PM
I'll break this down to the simplest thing you need to know.
If Donald Trump wasn't best buddies with Vince the media wouldn't give a fuck about the WWE running a show in Saudi Arabia.
I disagree because of the sheer amount of companies pulling out of their Saudi deals since the embassy scandal went down. Makes the WWE look a lot worse by comparison for still trying to hold the event and their unwillingness to make a real public statement on the issue.
They'd be getting the same negative reception even if Vince didn't have any personal connections to Trump.
That legit makes no sense. Why would WWE get praised for siding with the regime involved in the embassy murder. People are made at the WWE because they don't buy the "progress" excuse and WWE trying to sneakily go ahead with the event. Even WWE's shareholders are not entirely in all praise for the Saudi deal since WWE refuses to let them know the exact details of it.
If anything, it would lead to even more backlash and get rid of any pretext of them being with the Saudis for non-monetary reasons. They'd also be opening themselves to potentially serious legal repercussions if the US were to pass sanctions.
You're putting the cart before the horse there. People are upset becaus of Saudi Arabia's human rights abuses and the corruption of the regime. If the regime is corrupt because of Trump, sure, they might be mad at Trump too, but the terms aren't conditional based on that. It's because Saudi Arabia is a shitty, shitty place that does shitty, shitty things to its people.
Who actually derailed the Crown Jewel thread I wonder.
LOL
Swiss Ultimate
10-30-2018, 12:21 PM
Dude knows nothing about a country, sees 1 shiny video about that country, now has hard opinions about that country
This described 100% of this board.
Big Vic
10-30-2018, 12:21 PM
Daniel vs AJ will MOST LIKELY be turned into a House of Horrors match.
Crown Jewel boosting that stock short-term
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Destor
10-30-2018, 12:42 PM
Crown Jewel boosting that stock short-term
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I say take all the money they throw at you
Besides best way to assimilate people is via media. Things like this will bring cultural change faster than any other method... well other than mass killings
Ol Dirty Dastard
10-30-2018, 12:48 PM
tbh fam I have too many things going on in my own personal life to get morally righteous about WWE doing a show in Saudi Arabia.
Swiss Ultimate
10-30-2018, 12:51 PM
Dude, but what about the AIDS epidemic in Africa?
Destor
10-30-2018, 12:53 PM
Do they not have aids there? Everyone needs aids. Aids changed my life.
Ol Dirty Dastard
10-30-2018, 12:54 PM
Do they not have aids there? Everyone needs aids. Aids changed my life.
So jelly. I hate making my own phone calls.
Destor
10-30-2018, 12:56 PM
Gets even better. You can just be like "susan hold my calls" and then nap.
Destor
10-30-2018, 12:57 PM
There really is no limit to the positive impact aids can have on a person
Ol Dirty Dastard
10-30-2018, 12:59 PM
I suggest to everyone on this day forward to embark on a quest for aids.
Also, in saying I don't really care that much about WWE's crown jewel dealings, I also found John Oliver's coverage quite funny. But really, as long as one of their employees isn't murdering their family then committing suicide, any publicity is good publicity.
Destor
10-30-2018, 12:59 PM
Even that didnt really hurt them
Ol Dirty Dastard
10-30-2018, 01:07 PM
And like honestly, John Oliver has been trying to "pwn" Trump for the entire duration of his HBO show just like he "ethered" the WWE (ie. gave them attention and made them seem like an even bigger entity than they are).
Don't get me wrong, I enjoy the comedy and am a fan of Oliver on that front, but it has the reverse effect of what I assume is intended. He's preaching to his own choir and galvanizing those on the other side. Nobody watching John Oliver is going to have their mind changed by John Oliver because they already feel the same way he does.
Big Vic
10-30-2018, 01:50 PM
Dale I think you are using "ethered" wrong
You fucking El bino
Ol Dirty Dastard
10-30-2018, 01:52 PM
Dale I think you are using "ethered" wrong
You fucking El bino
It was used in a twitter post I was paraphrasing.
Big Vic
10-30-2018, 01:57 PM
Then they are using it wrong
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=ethered
Ol Dirty Dastard
10-30-2018, 02:02 PM
Hmm... I'm not seeing your point. Seems like it was used correctly. He "insulted" them or whatever.
Ol Dirty Dastard
10-30-2018, 02:03 PM
you big dumb idiot.
Destor
10-30-2018, 02:11 PM
ethered the fuck out of big savio right there
Ol Dirty Dastard
10-30-2018, 02:11 PM
;-)
Big Vic
10-30-2018, 02:12 PM
Ethering is not making giving someone attention and making them look like a bigger entity than what they are.
Ol Dirty Dastard
10-30-2018, 02:13 PM
Ethering is not making someone look like a bigger entity than what they are.
You are actually an idiot.
Ol Dirty Dastard
10-30-2018, 02:13 PM
NOT A FLAME JUST AN OBSERVATION
Big Vic
10-30-2018, 02:18 PM
"ethered" the WWE (ie. gave them attention and made them seem like an even bigger entity than they are).
"that is"
Ol Dirty Dastard
10-30-2018, 02:21 PM
"that is"
I was being ironic you fucking wiener.
Swiss Ultimate
10-30-2018, 02:21 PM
And like honestly, John Oliver has been trying to "pwn" Trump for the entire duration of his HBO show just like he "ethered" the WWE (ie. gave them attention and made them seem like an even bigger entity than they are).
Don't get me wrong, I enjoy the comedy and am a fan of Oliver on that front, but it has the reverse effect of what I assume is intended. He's preaching to his own choir and galvanizing those on the other side. Nobody watching John Oliver is going to have their mind changed by John Oliver because they already feel the same way he does.
I am facebook friends with one of the writers from the show. He used to do the sketch comedy internet show Olde English.
Ultra Mantis
10-30-2018, 02:23 PM
brace yourself for the main event you all impatiently wait it's like an AIDS test what's the result? Not positive. Who's the best PAC, Kaz or Big (E)? Ain't no best! Lost out, tossed out, flossed out you greedy I embrace you all like napalm blown up no guts chest left face gone how can Cass be garbage? semi-autos by your cartilage, burners at the side of your dome come down from my throne I got this locked since 9-6 I am the truest, name a poster that I have not influenced.
There's a lot of posters I have not influenced. You only need to name one.
Ol Dirty Dastard
10-30-2018, 02:26 PM
oh you were being sarcastic
Would have been easy for you to pick up on if you weren't busy trying to be the smartest guy in the room.
Big Vic
10-30-2018, 02:28 PM
I was being ironic you fucking wiener.
tHEn uuuUusE The sArcAStiC wAy tO tYpE
Ol Dirty Dastard
10-30-2018, 02:29 PM
I figured the scare quotes would have given you the idea, Genius Vic.
Big Vic
10-30-2018, 02:32 PM
The quotes made it seem that you were mocking internet lingo, IMO
Ol Dirty Dastard
10-30-2018, 02:34 PM
The quotes made it seem that you were mocking internet lingo, IMO
You are nails on a chalkboard sometimes.
Big Vic
10-30-2018, 02:36 PM
Bout to quit TPWW forever
Ol Dirty Dastard
10-30-2018, 02:37 PM
Bout to quit TPWW forever
We'd all be a lot smarter for it.
Big Vic
10-30-2018, 02:38 PM
That's it I'm out!
Big Vic
10-30-2018, 02:39 PM
..............Forever!
Big Vic
10-30-2018, 02:39 PM
.......................Don't anyone ask me to come back because I wont......................
Big Vic
10-30-2018, 02:40 PM
I'm serious!
Big Vic
10-30-2018, 02:40 PM
..............guys?
Destor
10-30-2018, 02:52 PM
One account down!
Savio
10-30-2018, 02:54 PM
Fuck that guy, am I right?
owenbrown
10-30-2018, 03:33 PM
Jesus H Christ
xrodmuc316
10-30-2018, 03:36 PM
And like honestly, John Oliver has been trying to "pwn" Trump for the entire duration of his HBO show just like he "ethered" the WWE (ie. gave them attention and made them seem like an even bigger entity than they are).
Don't get me wrong, I enjoy the comedy and am a fan of Oliver on that front, but it has the reverse effect of what I assume is intended. He's preaching to his own choir and galvanizing those on the other side. Nobody watching John Oliver is going to have their mind changed by John Oliver because they already feel the same way he does.
That is the left's delusion, it's how Trump got elected.
They act like they are better than everybody, and the people that don't agree with their point of view are idiots.
If he just said "I don't think they should go" that would be fine, but that's not good enough for preaching leftist elites. He has to insult the industry, fans, and wrestlers.
As a wrestling fan, I'm sitting here thinking "good, I'm glad they are going, hope it makes John Oliver pout more."
It's not their point of view, it's HOW they argue everypoint. They get loud and throw out insults. It's a child having a tantrum, and there are plenty of people out there who hear that and it makes up their mind the other way.
Saudi Arabia is a repressive place that does horrible things, but if it makes people like John Oliver that upset, then there is the silver lining to me.
Ol Dirty Dastard
10-30-2018, 03:58 PM
That is the left's delusion, it's how Trump got elected.
They act like they are better than everybody, and the people that don't agree with their point of view are idiots.
If he just said "I don't think they should go" that would be fine, but that's not good enough for preaching leftist elites. He has to insult the industry, fans, and wrestlers.
As a wrestling fan, I'm sitting here thinking "good, I'm glad they are going, hope it makes John Oliver pout more."
It's not their point of view, it's HOW they argue everypoint. They get loud and throw out insults. It's a child having a tantrum, and there are plenty of people out there who hear that and it makes up their mind the other way.
Saudi Arabia is a repressive place that does horrible things, but if it makes people like John Oliver that upset, then there is the silver lining to me.
That's not why Trump got elected. It certainly didn't help but it's largely an overarching narrative that is given far too much weight. From my novice understanding, people tend to turn to populist, brutish candidates during times of economic distress.
While "The Left" fails in their inability to understand and communicate with blue collar folk (such as simple fan for instance), there could have been a chance with Bernie Sanders. But with Hilary Clinton, you had a smug, charisma vacuum who was such a bad candidate she didn't even do rallies during her campaign.
"The Left" has always been holier than thou thinly veiled racists (like Noid) who can't deal with their own white guilt and yet they've held power plenty of times. There's many more factors that got Donald Trump elected beyond the likes of Jon Oliver and virtue signallers on Twitter.
Destor
10-30-2018, 04:07 PM
The constant narrative and the disassociation the average citizen has to the narrative is a major factor in Trump getting elected. "Fake news" and such
Destor
10-30-2018, 04:08 PM
Not exclusively but it cant be dismissed. The press being an unelected oligarchy is a real problem and Trump capitalized on it.
Destor
10-30-2018, 04:11 PM
There's a reason Americans list their most trusted news source as the BBC
Big Vic
10-30-2018, 04:15 PM
I was never really in the Trump camp until Kavanaugh/Ford BS happened.
Destor
10-30-2018, 04:15 PM
Not exclusively but it cant be dismissed. The press being an unelected oligarchy is a real problem and Trump capitalized on it.
I think it was Spirow Agnew first noted this in 69. Its been a swelling thats been left unattended too long. Regans removal of propaganda protections sped things up 10 fold.
Swiss Ultimate
10-30-2018, 04:22 PM
I'm on Team Jericho in this.
Pro Wrestling Sheet reporting Renee Young will do commentary for the show...
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Excited to see <a href="https://twitter.com/ReneeYoungWWE?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@ReneeYoungWWE</a> on commentary for <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WWECrownJewel?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WWECrownJewel</a>. <a href="https://t.co/mzQrtKN23u">pic.twitter.com/mzQrtKN23u</a></p>— Brad Shepard (@TheBradShepard) <a href="https://twitter.com/TheBradShepard/status/1057424962661834753?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 31, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Also, DBry vs AJ is happening on SDLive r/n
Seanny One Ball
10-30-2018, 08:50 PM
Do you think Boxing and UFC is homoerotic too?
They fight for a purse
Destor
10-30-2018, 08:55 PM
Pro Wrestling Sheet reporting Renee Young will do commentary for the show...
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Excited to see <a href="https://twitter.com/ReneeYoungWWE?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@ReneeYoungWWE</a> on commentary for <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WWECrownJewel?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WWECrownJewel</a>. <a href="https://t.co/mzQrtKN23u">pic.twitter.com/mzQrtKN23u</a></p>— Brad Shepard (@TheBradShepard) <a href="https://twitter.com/TheBradShepard/status/1057424962661834753?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 31, 2018</a></blockquote>
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This joke would have more teeth if they hadnt booked women in the past year
http://imageshack.com/a/img922/8467/9DKPNz.png
Swiss Ultimate
10-30-2018, 09:27 PM
http://imageshack.com/a/img922/8467/9DKPNz.png
Hide that before Noid goes into a fit of white rage.
Simple Fan
10-31-2018, 01:09 AM
Looking forward to this show even more now that it's AJ vs Joe. No secret I'm not a Daniel Bryan fan and I enjoyed the symbolism of having him tap out on TV.
xrodmuc316
10-31-2018, 02:23 AM
That's not why Trump got elected. It certainly didn't help but it's largely an overarching narrative that is given far too much weight. From my novice understanding, people tend to turn to populist, brutish candidates during times of economic distress.
While "The Left" fails in their inability to understand and communicate with blue collar folk (such as simple fan for instance), there could have been a chance with Bernie Sanders. But with Hilary Clinton, you had a smug, charisma vacuum who was such a bad candidate she didn't even do rallies during her campaign.
"The Left" has always been holier than thou thinly veiled racists (like Noid) who can't deal with their own white guilt and yet they've held power plenty of times. There's many more factors that got Donald Trump elected beyond the likes of Jon Oliver and virtue signallers on Twitter.
Bernie Sanders would have won easily, but democrats wanted to show how progressive they are by getting they first woman elected president.
Problem is like you said, they picked a very unlikable untrustworthy woman because they just assumed they would win. It shows how full of their delusions they were by how shocked they were when Trump won.
Even if I agree with a lot of the Democratic party points of view, I could never call myself a liberal because I just can't argue points the way liberals do. They take everything way too far.
Pit barrel made a post in the other subforum, sarcastically I assume, about banning all white privilege and that completely illustrates the point. Being upset at people for not being tolerant of everybody, so let's get rid of them because I don't want to tolerate them.
Just say if somebody is being racist they should be banned. Don't make it about them being "white privileged" cause that is disliking them based on their race.
That just doesn't make the argument in any kind of logical way, and sadly many liberals spew just as much hate as any other racist.
Swiss Ultimate
10-31-2018, 08:44 AM
Bernie Sanders would have won easily, but democrats wanted to show how progressive they are by getting they first woman elected president.
Problem is like you said, they picked a very unlikable untrustworthy woman because they just assumed they would win. It shows how full of their delusions they were by how shocked they were when Trump won.
Even if I agree with a lot of the Democratic party points of view, I could never call myself a liberal because I just can't argue points the way liberals do. They take everything way too far.
Pit barrel made a post in the other subforum, sarcastically I assume, about banning all white privilege and that completely illustrates the point. Being upset at people for not being tolerant of everybody, so let's get rid of them because I don't want to tolerate them.
Just say if somebody is being racist they should be banned. Don't make it about them being "white privileged" cause that is disliking them based on their race.
That just doesn't make the argument in any kind of logical way, and sadly many liberals spew just as much hate as any other racist.
Yeah, I was being sarcastic.
Ol Dirty Dastard
10-31-2018, 10:06 AM
Bernie Sanders would have won easily, but democrats wanted to show how progressive they are by getting they first woman elected president.
Problem is like you said, they picked a very unlikable untrustworthy woman because they just assumed they would win. It shows how full of their delusions they were by how shocked they were when Trump won.
Even if I agree with a lot of the Democratic party points of view, I could never call myself a liberal because I just can't argue points the way liberals do. They take everything way too far.
Pit barrel made a post in the other subforum, sarcastically I assume, about banning all white privilege and that completely illustrates the point. Being upset at people for not being tolerant of everybody, so let's get rid of them because I don't want to tolerate them.
Just say if somebody is being racist they should be banned. Don't make it about them being "white privileged" cause that is disliking them based on their race.
That just doesn't make the argument in any kind of logical way, and sadly many liberals spew just as much hate as any other racist.
We're in the same boat but I also can't stand far right snowflakes either because they hold liberals to some ridiculous standard. "I'm allowed to be an asshole, but if this liberal left leaning person displays anything off base, they are garbage".
Swiss Ultimate
10-31-2018, 10:08 AM
Everybody uses "snowflake" wrong. It's not people who can't take criticism or are outraged by everything, it's supposed to be people who think they're special "unique snowflakes" and their shit don't stink.
Most of us are various levels of scum. I'm pond scum for instance.
Big Vic
10-31-2018, 10:11 AM
Dave was being 'ironic' or something
Ol Dirty Dastard
10-31-2018, 10:26 AM
Big Vic was being a dumbfuck "or something" as usual.
I'm aware of the "unique snowflake", but it's used to describe someone easily triggered and it's a commonly accepted application of the word. Thanks for the condescending lesson though, Swiss.
Destor
10-31-2018, 10:40 AM
its def used wrong but at this point its used wrong so much that the wrong definition is the definition now.
Ol Dirty Dastard
10-31-2018, 10:43 AM
I'm sure this is common with many terms.
Swiss Ultimate
10-31-2018, 10:54 AM
I'm sure this is common with many terms.
Like Tub-Stumper and Whoopie cushion.
Big Vic
10-31-2018, 11:04 AM
I like how they had to change the definition of 'literally'
Ol Dirty Dastard
10-31-2018, 11:11 AM
Originally posted by <b>Google</b>
<b>lit·er·al·ly</b>
/ˈlidərəlē,ˈlitrəlē/
<i>adverb</i>
in a literal manner or sense; exactly.
"the driver took it literally when asked to go straight across the traffic circle"
synonyms: exactly, precisely, actually, really, truly; More
<b>INFORMAL</b>
used for emphasis or to express strong feeling while not being literally true.
"Big Vic is literally the biggest doofus I have ever met"
#1-norm-fan
10-31-2018, 11:14 AM
I love Cena even more now for fucking over WWE. Bryan, too. But his absence doesn’t leave nearly the mark Cena’s does.
Droford
10-31-2018, 11:41 AM
How does Cena opting out of going screw over WWE more than Bryan? Cena hasnt worked a non overseas show since WM but he had been to SA for the Greatest Royal Rumble
Big Vic
10-31-2018, 11:44 AM
Attacking me because I commented on the definition of literally? Ok Dale I'm going to wipe my hands now and leave you and your glass house alone.
Destor
10-31-2018, 11:46 AM
How does Cena opting out of going screw over WWE more than Bryan? Cena hasnt worked a non overseas show since WM but he had been to SA for the Greatest Royal Rumble
Surely you recognize that Cena is the most valuable act in the company yeah?
Ol Dirty Dastard
10-31-2018, 11:47 AM
Attacking me because I commented on the definition of literally? Ok Dale I'm going to wipe my hands now and leave you and your glass house alone.
lol i was busting your balls
Destor
10-31-2018, 11:48 AM
wait was Vic not busting yours just then?
Ol Dirty Dastard
10-31-2018, 11:49 AM
i dont know anymore
Ol Dirty Dastard
10-31-2018, 11:49 AM
:'(
Swiss Ultimate
10-31-2018, 12:39 PM
i dont know anymore
People have been coming to me and saying that you've been bullying them on here, Dale. They say they no longer like being here because of your behavior.
Just something to think about.
Ol Dirty Dastard
10-31-2018, 12:41 PM
Couldn't be true. It's well known that I am, in fact, TPWW's moral compass.
Swiss Ultimate
10-31-2018, 12:43 PM
Yes, but you're not a paragon of virtue like myself. You're just a big hunk.
Swiss Ultimate
10-31-2018, 12:44 PM
They says to me, "That Dale fella is sure the moral compass of TPWW all right, wherever'n he's pointed, you'd best head d'other direcktion."
#1-norm-fan
10-31-2018, 12:47 PM
How does Cena opting out of going screw over WWE more than Bryan? Cena hasnt worked a non overseas show since WM but he had been to SA for the Greatest Royal Rumble
Surely you recognize that Cena is the most valuable act in the company yeah?
And specifically WAY more valuable to the people paying WWE millions for the show. I’m pretty sure they could take or leave Bryan. John Cena not being there hurts.
#1-norm-fan
10-31-2018, 12:54 PM
Plus now they’ve gotta have the other biggest star Brock Lesnar do the post match speech thanking the fine people of Saudi Arabia. Gonna be awkward.
xrodmuc316
10-31-2018, 01:49 PM
I love Cena even more now for fucking over WWE. Bryan, too. But his absence doesn’t leave nearly the mark Cena’s does.
I would be especially pleased if they were gonna let Bryan win the title, but because he isn't going, they let Joe win the belt instead.
xrodmuc316
10-31-2018, 01:58 PM
We're in the same boat but I also can't stand far right snowflakes either because they hold liberals to some ridiculous standard. "I'm allowed to be an asshole, but if this liberal left leaning person displays anything off base, they are garbage".
Agreed, anybody that isn't open to debate falls right into the same category. The far right is less whiny, but they are also less compassionate.
The far right thinks either agree with me or you don't matter and aren't worth any time.
The far left thinks either agree with me or I'll stomp my feet and yell at you for hours.
Ol Dirty Dastard
10-31-2018, 02:04 PM
Agreed, anybody that isn't open to debate falls right into the same category. The far right is less whiny, but they are also less compassionate.
That is until someone gets fired for saying something stupid (re: racist), and then they're whining like a bunch of little bitches about "free speech" even though free speech has nothing to do with employment.
Swiss Ultimate
10-31-2018, 02:16 PM
Agreed, anybody that isn't open to debate falls right into the same category. The far right is less whiny, but they are also less compassionate.
HEY ASSHOLE, I AM NOT LESS WHINY.
Sepholio
10-31-2018, 03:28 PM
Agreed, anybody that isn't open to debate falls right into the same category. The far right is less whiny, but they are also less compassionate.
LOL. He says the people that will cry about a paper coffee cup not saying merry Christmas are less whiny.
Ol Dirty Dastard
10-31-2018, 03:29 PM
LOL. He says the people that will cry about a paper coffee cup not saying merry Christmas are less whiny.
:y::y::y::y:
THE WAR ON CHRISTMAS
Big Vic
10-31-2018, 03:38 PM
LOL. He says the people that will cry about a paper coffee cup not saying merry Christmas are less whiny.
Don't assume their gender.
Sepholio
10-31-2018, 03:45 PM
Don't assume their gender.
My imaginary friend made me discriminate on them. It couldn't be helped.
#1-norm-fan
10-31-2018, 08:43 PM
I would be especially pleased if they were gonna let Bryan win the title, but because he isn't going, they let Joe win the belt instead.
If booked right, Joe could be an AMAZING monster heel champion for some up and coming face to get a rub by overcoming at some point.
#1-norm-fan
10-31-2018, 08:46 PM
Joe destroys Styles for the title and goes all Lesnar just crushing all the competition for a year and a half... until he faces Fandango at WrestleMania. Fucking book that shit nowwwww.
Fignuts
10-31-2018, 08:59 PM
Remember when Fashion Police were over for a month?
Destor
10-31-2018, 09:06 PM
They'd be super over in Saudi Arabia
#1-norm-fan
11-01-2018, 01:22 AM
I don’t remember the last time ANYTHING WWE produced was over for a month but Johnny Curtis being involved in the last thing that was wouldn’t surprise me. Because he is a fucking legend in waiting.
Joe destroys Styles for the title and goes all Lesnar just crushing all the competition for a year and a half... until he faces Fandango at WrestleMania. Fucking book that shit nowwwww.
Sorry, but I couldn't buy a fat slob with salami nipples as a hellraising monster.
Swiss Ultimate
11-01-2018, 08:09 AM
That's just how Samoans look. I wouldn't want to fuck with a Samoan dude most of the time.
#1-norm-fan
11-01-2018, 10:50 AM
There is a long history of big fat guys with various nipple types who played great badasses.
Swiss Ultimate
11-01-2018, 10:52 AM
Hulk Hogan is going to be at Saudi Arabia.
I wonder how much he's getting paid.
Big Vic
11-01-2018, 11:16 AM
Hope Hogan costs New Day the titles. Would really like to see a worked shoot.
Evil Vito
11-01-2018, 12:02 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dq55ZS2UwAATvVG.jpg:large
Swiss Ultimate
11-01-2018, 02:47 PM
Big Vic was being a dumbfuck "or something" as usual.
I'm aware of the "unique snowflake", but it's used to describe someone easily triggered and it's a commonly accepted application of the word. Thanks for the condescending lesson though, Swiss.
its def used wrong but at this point its used wrong so much that the wrong definition is the definition now.
I'm sure this is common with many terms.
I just realized you complained that I was right. :(
Ol Dirty Dastard
11-01-2018, 02:52 PM
Well you tried to tell me I was wrong, which I wasn't, because I used the term in it's common application. Get with the times, Swiss.
Swiss Ultimate
11-01-2018, 04:24 PM
Well you tried to tell me I was wrong, which I wasn't, because I used the term in it's common application. Get with the times, Swiss.
YOU JUST ADMITTED YOU WERE WRONG.
Which you were and I concur and agree with you that you were wrong.
Popular use does not equate to correct use.
Ol Dirty Dastard
11-01-2018, 05:37 PM
Definitions can shift, no? There are many words in the English language that start one way, and the definition shifts over time. So while I acknowledged you were correct (but in a way that seemed you were jerking yourself off), I did not say I was wrong. SUCKAAAAAAAAAA
Swiss Ultimate
11-01-2018, 06:09 PM
NO THEY CAN'T. GAY STILL MEANS SLUTTY.
Fignuts
11-01-2018, 07:12 PM
Yeah but no one uses the term gay to describe a feeling of happiness anymore, except to make fun of it
So definitions can become obsolete
Fignuts
11-01-2018, 07:13 PM
Also, way to derail the thread again.
You fucking faggot.
Sepholio
11-01-2018, 07:47 PM
Cucks. The whole lot of you are cucks.
Ol Dirty Dastard
11-01-2018, 07:59 PM
Game. Set. Newstead.
Swiss Ultimate
11-01-2018, 09:25 PM
I want to start a fighting group called MMAmazing
Destor
11-01-2018, 10:34 PM
I wanna start a group called MMAZEing
Its a combat sport where you have to fight your way out of a sprawling maze.
Evil Vito
11-02-2018, 12:09 AM
Thinking about it more, I would have enjoyed the proposed AJ/Bryan green screen match if the background kept changing, like the start to the Naked Gun movies except with them and the ring instead of the flashing police light.
<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/0LIHoEJAA4k?start=194" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>
Vastardikai
11-02-2018, 01:03 AM
I'd be in favor of this being shown on the green screen, and the footage aired over the big screens in Saudi Arabia*.
<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/mZvPIiJ_aA8" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>
*after the talent being safely aboard their flights home**.
**except someone expendable, like Corey Graves. Give them a sacrificial lamb.
Droford
11-02-2018, 02:26 AM
https://i.imgur.com/kDSUYJU.jpg
That might be what pushed Dean over the edge
Big Vic
11-02-2018, 08:12 AM
There should prob be a new thread once the PPV starts.
Swiss Ultimate
11-02-2018, 09:03 AM
I wanna start a group called MMAZEing
Its a combat sport where you have to fight your way out of a sprawling maze.
FUUUUCK. YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE ALL OF THE MONEY.
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Destor
11-02-2018, 10:24 AM
bout time
Jordan
11-02-2018, 12:02 PM
GUYS HBK IS RASSLIN TODAY
Jordan
11-02-2018, 12:03 PM
Can't wait to see HBK's full bald head minus jockstrap.
Jordan
11-02-2018, 12:04 PM
Lot's of empty seats. HOGAN!
Big Vic
11-02-2018, 12:05 PM
Wait Renee is there?
Big Vic
11-02-2018, 12:06 PM
They should have Rico come out and eat a leg drop for MASSIVE CHEERS.
Jordan
11-02-2018, 12:07 PM
I'm quite sure Hogan could still work a match similar to his last WCW days. I mean he didn't bump often then, just punches and back rakes.
Jordan
11-02-2018, 12:08 PM
JACK MARKS FLIPPIN OUT
Jordan
11-02-2018, 12:09 PM
Goddamn I love this song. I HAVE SOMETHING DEEP INSIDE OF ME....
Jordan
11-02-2018, 12:09 PM
Sick opening pyro.
Big Vic
11-02-2018, 12:09 PM
"Fight for what's right!"
"I feel strong about right and wrong"
Jordan
11-02-2018, 12:10 PM
Was that the guy who chopped up the journalist or the guy who strangled him?
Jordan
11-02-2018, 12:10 PM
Lead Saudi announcer kinda looks like Triple A.
Jordan
11-02-2018, 12:12 PM
Wow that tron for Rey with the masks was really cool.
Jordan
11-02-2018, 12:13 PM
Rey is probably the best wrestler I've seen live. Even doing his normal routine he's electric when you see him close.
Jordan
11-02-2018, 12:14 PM
Rey looks awesome right now.
Ben Rodrigues
11-02-2018, 12:14 PM
This man. So boring.
Big Vic
11-02-2018, 12:14 PM
The apex sexual predator!
Jordan
11-02-2018, 12:14 PM
I would like to see this match go about 4 minutes with a bunch of high spot counters ending with a victory roll.
Jordan
11-02-2018, 12:16 PM
I've been so busy I haven't watched a full WWE show since Hell in a Cell, so I'm ready for some rasslin.
Jordan
11-02-2018, 12:17 PM
Crowd seems more alive than GRR.
Jordan
11-02-2018, 12:17 PM
Oh man what a great dropkick spot.
Big Vic
11-02-2018, 12:18 PM
Nice Dropu kicku
Jordan
11-02-2018, 12:18 PM
I know he's usually really boring but I've always wanted to see Orton face Okada because I find a lot of similarities in the two.
Jordan
11-02-2018, 12:20 PM
Rey is so good. I can't believe I was saying the same thing when I was 10 years old.
Ben Rodrigues
11-02-2018, 12:22 PM
I would like to see this match go about 4 minutes with a bunch of high spot counters ending with a victory roll.
Close enough.
Jordan
11-02-2018, 12:22 PM
Haha I called it.
Ben Rodrigues
11-02-2018, 12:22 PM
Rey Mysterio going the 'Savio Vega King of the Ring' route to the finals.
Jordan
11-02-2018, 12:23 PM
Would not be surprised to see a local mark charge the ring tonight.
I saw some gifs on Twitter, looks like the pyro budget is particularly large thus far
If Smackdown is going to fire the loser of the tournament, then 2 things make sense to me.
1) Raw wins it.
2) The Miz is headed to Raw.
Big Vic
11-02-2018, 12:24 PM
Orton bout to take Rey to the Consulate.
A.J.K
11-02-2018, 12:25 PM
If Smackdown is going to fire the loser of the tournament, then 2 things make sense to me.
1) Raw wins it.
2) The Miz is headed to Raw.
Angle winning , Hardy beating Miz makes sense
Jordan
11-02-2018, 12:26 PM
I'm really tired of having to watch The Miz wrestle I wish he'd just "go to hollywood".
Swiss Ultimate
11-02-2018, 12:28 PM
I want Miz to come to my house and hang out.
Jordan
11-02-2018, 12:28 PM
I really like listing the accolades before the entrance.
Ben Rodrigues
11-02-2018, 12:28 PM
This man is on the drugs.
Jordan
11-02-2018, 12:29 PM
This is basically a WWE legends show. Rey, Orton, Hardy, HBK, Taker, Kane, Angle, Triple H... pretty cool I guess. I mean I loved WCW Slamboree when they did a legends reunion. I wish Booker T was in the tournament tbh. And maybe next year they will get BOB f'n HOLLY.
Big Vic
11-02-2018, 12:30 PM
Wonder how long it will take the winner of the world cup to start jobbing.
Jordan
11-02-2018, 12:31 PM
HBK is obviously going heel in this run so IF they don't go with HBK/Taker III (at Mania) then I hope they will work in a way to get heel HBK to fight face DBRY.
Jordan
11-02-2018, 12:32 PM
Wonder how long it will take the winner of the world cup to start jobbing.
I know. I am predicting Rey takes it. Oh damn just thought of Rey vs AJ. :love:
Jordan
11-02-2018, 12:34 PM
Miz needs to start working even more like a heel. I feel like he kind of gets into "competitive" mode in a lot of his bouts (until the end of course). I would like to see him go full Lawler 90's WWF mode. He could be building heat here big time but instead they are just doing moves back and forth.
Ben Rodrigues
11-02-2018, 12:34 PM
Hoping we get a non-finish for the Universal Title and a Deadly Game tournament at Survivor Series.
Ben Rodrigues
11-02-2018, 12:35 PM
Miz needs to start working even more like a heel. I feel like he kind of gets into "competitive" mode in a lot of his bouts (until the end of course). I would like to see him go full Lawler 90's WWF mode. He could be building heat here big time but instead they are just doing moves back and forth.
A kiss my foot match between Miz and Daniel Bryan would be money.
Jordan
11-02-2018, 12:36 PM
A kiss my foot match between Miz and Daniel Bryan would be money.
Yeah it would. Or maybe even a kiss my wife match. Seriously imagine the drama in that.
Jordan
11-02-2018, 12:36 PM
Or even a YOUR WIFE KISSES MY FOOT MATCH
Jordan
11-02-2018, 12:37 PM
Can't believe the bumps Hardy takes to this day. That whisper in the wind has to hurt, but man I love him for it.
Ben Rodrigues
11-02-2018, 12:37 PM
Yeah it would. Or maybe even a kiss my wife match. Seriously imagine the drama in that.
Lol. They could go next level with it and have Miz do vignettes similar to what Lawler did.
Jordan
11-02-2018, 12:38 PM
Does RVD still wrestle? I imagine he will be in Saudi Arabia before long.
Jordan
11-02-2018, 12:38 PM
Solid officiating.
Ben Rodrigues
11-02-2018, 12:39 PM
Pretty sure he's blacklisted because of concussions.
Ben Rodrigues
11-02-2018, 12:41 PM
Seth Rollins needs lyrics.
Jordan
11-02-2018, 12:41 PM
I bet that Bobby Lashley will beat Miz in the finals and Miz will get fired and go to Raw to have a thrilling feud with Big Bobby.
What would be really cool is if he got fired from Smackdown and went to NXT to try and kill everyone because he's a real pro and he want's to put all the rookies in their place. Would be cool because there is a lot to learn from the Miz and really good fun workers can make a good match with Miz. Also could help boost some NXT attendence on the road to have a big WWE star like Miz on the card.
Ben Rodrigues
11-02-2018, 12:43 PM
Nothing about Lashley being a former Shark Fights Heavyweight Champion?
Jordan
11-02-2018, 12:43 PM
Would've been cool to get Jericho in this tournament.
Jordan
11-02-2018, 12:43 PM
Nothing about Lashley being a former Shark Fights Heavyweight Champion?
:lol::lol::lol:
Big Vic
11-02-2018, 12:44 PM
wish Lio Rush was openly gay so he wouldn't be ringside for this match.
Ben Rodrigues
11-02-2018, 12:44 PM
I like it when Lashley draws his eyebrows in.
A.J.K
11-02-2018, 12:45 PM
"Nobody Smells like him."
Jordan
11-02-2018, 12:45 PM
I wish they'd market him as "THE BIG BLACK BULL BOBBY LASHLEY"
Jordan
11-02-2018, 12:46 PM
This could be a great match.
Ben Rodrigues
11-02-2018, 12:46 PM
This could be a great match.
5 minutes max.
Jordan
11-02-2018, 12:47 PM
If a Raw star loses do they also get fired?
Ben Rodrigues
11-02-2018, 12:48 PM
If a Raw star loses do they also get fired?
They must feud with Baron Corbin
Jordan
11-02-2018, 12:48 PM
LOL
Big Vic
11-02-2018, 12:48 PM
Cole everything isn't a DDT......
Ben Rodrigues
11-02-2018, 12:49 PM
Cole is garbage.
Jordan
11-02-2018, 12:51 PM
Oh wow I didn't think that was going down like that. Not great but a good short match.
Jordan
11-02-2018, 12:51 PM
Would love to see Rollins in the finals with Mysterio.
Ben Rodrigues
11-02-2018, 12:51 PM
Ambrose will cost Rollins the match against Angle.
Ol Dirty Dastard
11-02-2018, 12:52 PM
lol "Lashley DOMINATED that match."...no he did not. Had some good offence then got jobbed like a punk.
Jordan
11-02-2018, 12:52 PM
Would also enjoy Angle vs Mysterio in the finals. Throwback to that classic Summerslam match.
Jordan
11-02-2018, 12:53 PM
Oh shit it feels like Kurt Angle is back.
A.J.K
11-02-2018, 12:53 PM
Would also enjoy Angle vs Mysterio in the finals. Throwback to that classic Summerslam match.
This is probably very likely to happen.
Ben Rodrigues
11-02-2018, 12:54 PM
WTF did they do to his pyro
Jordan
11-02-2018, 12:55 PM
I wish Angle would've tried MMA when he was healthy. He looks good tonight.
Ol Dirty Dastard
11-02-2018, 12:55 PM
lol I like when Cole said "It's night time here in Crown Jewel" lmfao. Crown Jewel isn't a place, Michael!
Big Vic
11-02-2018, 12:55 PM
I wish Angle would've tried MMA when he was healthy. He looks good tonight.
Angle vs CM Punk 2019
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