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slik

11-21-2018, 09:12 AM

New Wrestling Promotion?

Trademarks were filed for ALL ELITE WRESTLING on November 5th....Cody Rhodes/Young Bucks perhaps?

https://www.trademarks411.com/marks/88182049-all-elite-wrestling

slik

11-21-2018, 09:24 AM

Filed in Jacksonville...Hmmm, a hint from a recent tweet?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Week 1 upon us<br><br>I’m going all in on the <a href="https://twitter.com/Jaguars?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Jaguars</a> this season<br><br>Got a good feeling about em’</p>— Cody Rhodes (@CodyRhodes) <a href="https://twitter.com/CodyRhodes/status/1038604775624007681?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 9, 2018</a></blockquote>
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slik

11-21-2018, 10:10 AM

Per Reddit the name "ALL OUT" has been filed as well...perhaps the sequel to ALL IN?

Trademarks all registered to same address as Jacksonville Jaguars...Rumors that Cody/Bucks (and possibly Jericho/JR) working with a billionaire to start up a fed definitely have some heat to them...

Jordan

11-21-2018, 12:50 PM

I think this is the real deal. There is a lot of room for a solid top tier promotion right now and even a half ass ROH was able to sell out the Garden, imagine what the Elite of the indies can do. ALL IN felt so good, it felt like a 2018 version of what if WCW didn’t die and started to get good.

Counting on Cody the be the main guy, I’m cool with that. Also fin gets crossed they can get Omega. Maybe NJPW will use AEW instead of ROH going forward.

Side note. I am hoping for more traditions from this “fantasy” company. Like an annual tournament for singles and tags like NJPW/AJPW do.

I feel like WGN is a great fit. Also, looking forward to not being overwhelmed by content. I miss missing wrestling and thinking and waiting for it. Hoping for one weekly show and big events maybe every other month. So pumped about the possibilities of this.

slik

11-21-2018, 01:17 PM

I agree w/ you on everything you said.

Simple Fan

11-21-2018, 03:32 PM

Not really sold the name All Elite Wrestling. Think World Elite would be a better name.

xrodmuc316

11-21-2018, 03:34 PM

I would love a real alternative to WWE, even if all it means is Vinny Mac and company put in just a little bit of effort to get better.

Danny Electric

11-21-2018, 05:35 PM

If things go well then this is exactly what professional wrestling needs in America and also with some strong competition the WWE may up their game.

There is definitely a ton of under-utilised guys in the WWE who could jump ship and give a new promotion some star quality. I know I’m getting ahead of myself but imagine guys like Balor and Nakamura rejuvenating their careers.

Fignuts

11-21-2018, 05:45 PM

They dont have the money to be a real alternative to WWE. Nobody does.

Mr. Nerfect

11-21-2018, 05:55 PM

They dont have the money to be a real alternative to WWE. Nobody does.

Dude, Shad Khan is worth $7 billion. Vince is worth $2.5 billion. Khan was about to buy Wembley Stadium for about the cost of 80 WrestleMania sets. He's worth more than Sinclair Broadcasting. He could buy his own TV slot, if he needed to.

If things go well then this is exactly what professional wrestling needs in America and also with some strong competition the WWE may up their game.

There is definitely a ton of under-utilised guys in the WWE who could jump ship and give a new promotion some star quality. I know I’m getting ahead of myself but imagine guys like Balor and Nakamura rejuvenating their careers.

They most definitely would, but that would be good for the overall product. Talent will also have leverage, which obviously gives them financial benefits, but also allows them to angle for more creative leeway.

Definitely seems like there is smoke to this fire. The story seemed very odd to just...make up.

Bad News Gertner

11-21-2018, 06:12 PM

slik

11-21-2018, 07:08 PM

The name TUESDAY NIGHT DYNAMITE has also been trademarked by the same, along with ALL OUT and DOUBLE OR NOTHING.

Maybe TNT is the name of a possible TV series?

slik

11-21-2018, 07:09 PM

It turns out Shan's son is a massive wrestling fan as well.

Hmmm.

SlickyTrickyDamon

11-21-2018, 10:57 PM

Will that fan that punched out that other fan be in the ring?

Mr. Nerfect

11-21-2018, 11:37 PM

The name TUESDAY NIGHT DYNAMITE has also been trademarked by the same, along with ALL OUT and DOUBLE OR NOTHING.

Maybe TNT is the name of a possible TV series?

Something is going on. Dynamite would fit a show on TNT. With SmackDown going to Friday, having a Tuesday show makes sense.

Tony Khan is a wrestling fan, and he also runs a sports media promotion company.

Mr. Nerfect

11-22-2018, 06:18 AM

Brand awareness destroys them. WWE has become the Kleenex of wrestling: their product is so synonymous with wrestling they've essentially become Wrestling. It hurt WCW for years and that's when the WWF wasn't the only game in town. WCW was putting ads in the newspaper, and the paper was using Stone Cold as their wrestler on their ad.

There's truth to that, but perceptions change. Also, most people I heard talking about wrestling still talk about "WWF." Disney aren't the only people who make animated movies, Coca-Cola isn't the only company that makes soda, Nokia aren't the only people who make mobile phones, Apple aren't the only people who make smart phones.

Ted Turner funded a wrestling promotion, and it went under. Vince was undisputed king. People left him alone, but that was largely because there wasn't $100 million per TV hour in rights fees on the table.

P.S. WCW probably paid for Austin to be the ad, knowing their backwards shit.

EIWF

11-22-2018, 06:22 PM

All sounds promising, hopefully we will get a real alternative to wwe

Simple Fan

11-22-2018, 08:01 PM

Droford

11-22-2018, 08:02 PM

erickman

11-22-2018, 08:34 PM

Hope they work with other promotions like All In did. If not it could really hurt ROH losing The Elite and maybe even SCU. Impact has most of their key guys locked in for a bit but ROH has alot of contracts up in January.

I can see them taking over impact, take the stage hands cameramen some of the writers and some of the wrestlers.

Simple Fan

11-22-2018, 09:09 PM

I can see them taking over impact, take the stage hands cameramen some of the writers and some of the wrestlers.

I highly doubt that, could probably take some talent but like I said Impact has most their key talent locked up for a while. As far as cameramen and stage hands go I'm not sure about any of that but I don't think that'd be something a new company would try to poach, and if it was ROH would be more susceptible to that than Impact. Could hurt both but I don't think it'll put either out of business if they work with other promotions like All In did.

Bad News Gertner

11-22-2018, 09:20 PM

There's truth to that, but perceptions change. Also, most people I heard talking about wrestling still talk about "WWF." Disney aren't the only people who make animated movies, Coca-Cola isn't the only company that makes soda, Nokia aren't the only people who make mobile phones, Apple aren't the only people who make smart phones.

Ted Turner funded a wrestling promotion, and it went under. Vince was undisputed king. People left him alone, but that was largely because there wasn't $100 million per TV hour in rights fees on the table.

P.S. WCW probably paid for Austin to be the ad, knowing their backwards shit.

Yes but there's always been a mainstream alternative to those things. Coke always has Pepsi, Apple has Samsung, etc. WWE has been the only game in town going on 18 years now in terms of being mainstream. TNA went on a media blitz trying to get their name out. Nobody cared. People saw it as minor league . Plus wrestling is a very niche product. This new fed will appeal to the All In crowd. That's it. I'm not saying it can't be successful, but it is what it is.

slik

11-22-2018, 10:47 PM

Gertner has a valid point - but we also know nothing about how this will be presented, filmed and so forth. They might have a brand new take on how to present wrestling to the public, Vince (and The Von Erichs) did back in the early 80's.

I'm excited to see what happens and look forward to giving it a watch if it does happen.

Bad News Gertner

11-22-2018, 11:25 PM

I'm curious to see whether this is actually treated as an alternative. What I mean by that is, I've never met a TNA fan who didn't also watch the WWE. I know a trillion people who only watch the WWE. So it's really not an alternative. It's just additional wrestling that you are watching. I also live in Canada so I probably have a different perspective.

slik

11-23-2018, 12:21 AM

Meltzer notes from the Observer on all this

(also posted in Wrestling News & Rumors, which has lots of Meltzer scoops this week)

All Elite Wrestling

The revelation of certain trademarks that have been filed looks to answer questions about the probable destination of The Young Bucks, Cody, Brandi Rhodes and Hangman Page.

A group using the address of the Jacksonville Jaguars football team filed for several trademarks on 11/5, the key being All Elite Wrestling, the name of the promotion, along with AEW, All Out, Double or Nothing, AEW Double or Nothing and Tuesday Night Dynamite. Normally trademark filings would hardly be a big deal. But the key is All Elite Wrestling is the name of the group, and The Young Bucks and Kenny Omega own the Elite name for marketing purposes.In addition, Double or Nothing was known to be the name of the second All In show, an idea for a show on a holiday weekend in the second quarter of 2019 in Las Vegas. This show is not confirmed by any means, but it was an idea and that was the name of it.

The Jacksonville Jaguars, as well as Fulham FC of the English Premier League, are owned by Shahid Khan, 68, who Forbes Magazine once called the face of the American Dream, and as the 70th richest man in the U.S. and 221st richest man in the world with a net worth of $7 billion. He recently attempted, although the bid fell through, to purchase Wembley Stadium. His son, Tony Khan, 36, is a huge wrestling fan and is the person behind AEW. Khan is a well-known pro wrestling fan. He has been an Observer subscriber since he was a teenager and even sent in live event reports. He was part of some Internet wrestling groups. He knows many of the biggest names in wrestling and was considered one of the best friends of The Young Bucks.

slik

11-23-2018, 12:23 AM

A.J.K

11-23-2018, 01:03 AM

This is what Pro Wrestling needs.

Bad News Gertner

11-23-2018, 02:23 AM

I don't know anyone who only watches TNA either. I do know some people who only watch NJPW though, so this could be interesting.

Lol I know a couple of people that SAY they only watch New Japan, but I know they are full of it

slik

11-23-2018, 02:52 AM

lol

Mr. Nerfect

11-23-2018, 05:32 PM

I highly doubt that, could probably take some talent but like I said Impact has most their key talent locked up for a while. As far as cameramen and stage hands go I'm not sure about any of that but I don't think that'd be something a new company would try to poach, and if it was ROH would be more susceptible to that than Impact. Could hurt both but I don't think it'll put either out of business if they work with other promotions like All In did.

I'm pretty sure that anyone making a serious run could buy TNA from whoever is holding it. They're not doing roaring business. They have low attendance and their ratings are going down. They might have talent locked into contracts, but I was reading somewhere that their video library's worth would be estimated to be at just over $1 million. I don't know how much their talent currently gets paid, but I bet you could buy out most of their contracts for less than another million. You could probably steal TNA entirely for $2 million and a lot of people would probably be happy to have it off their hands.

Keep in mind Shahid Khan was about to spend $800 million on a project. He's obviously not going to sink that much into wrestling, but he could literally buy between 400 and 800 TNAs for fun. If he were so inclined.

Yes but there's always been a mainstream alternative to those things. Coke always has Pepsi, Apple has Samsung, etc. WWE has been the only game in town going on 18 years now in terms of being mainstream. TNA went on a media blitz trying to get their name out. Nobody cared. People saw it as minor league . Plus wrestling is a very niche product. This new fed will appeal to the All In crowd. That's it. I'm not saying it can't be successful, but it is what it is.

That's all true. No major disagreement here at all. More so than wrestling being niche, wrestling has been looked down upon. I think the big shift is in how much Vince gets for TV. And it doesn't take a whiz to see that his TV is objectively bad and he's a volume business.

TNA had the backing of Spike, and while "nobody cared," it was doing pretty decent numbers until they went and burnt their bridges with Spike. I'm not sure how much money Viacom was pumping into them, but it was probably more than Panda were (although they are much bigger than I initially thought).

You can't do exactly what WCW or TNA did and expect success. You've really got to be smarter about it than that. But I think where you and I differ on this is that I don't take 100% failure rate against Vince so far to mean that it's inevitable you're going to have a 100% failure rate against Vince. Markets change, and he's ballooned to this size where he's locked into this pattern that he can't really break from until he loses deals and what have you.

Completely agree with the audience that are into this. Hell, I'm not really into Cody or The Young Bucks at all, haha. But I think striking the right deal with the right people in the right climate with the right marketing can create something that isn't just looking to repeat history, but rather take that existing audience that is burnt out on bad volume television and give them something boutique to chew on.

Gertner has a valid point - but we also know nothing about how this will be presented, filmed and so forth. They might have a brand new take on how to present wrestling to the public, Vince (and The Von Erichs) did back in the early 80's.

I'm excited to see what happens and look forward to giving it a watch if it does happen.

Gertner's points are very valid, and he turns out to be correct more often than not. Reading up on the specific extent of the trademarks, it seems that a lot is going to be digital or on the internet. That's probably blanket stuff, but they specifically mention internet PPVs and digital distribution of things.

If you're going to just do another ROH or TNA, forget about it. Another drop in the bucket. More saturation, if I'm being honest. But if you're going to give this a real go, then I am optimistically (perhaps not cautiously enough so) that there is a real opening.

Hell, the name Double or Nothing itself implies that they are going to try and get 20,000 people into an arena. Which sounds insane, but something about this project has always felt more ambitious than Wale wanting to start up his own promotion, or Toby Keith wanting to start up his own.

This seems like the sort of thing that you'd only do, and that Cody and The Bucks would only do, if there was serious investment behind it to the point they could sacrifice their New Japan and ROH careers (to a large extent). And I only think a billionaire would get legitimately involved in wrestling because they wanted to increase their fortune, and not just create random content.

I think the money is there in wrestling (look at Vince), but you've got to cross a certain threshold to make it. TV stations want something that can look like what Vince does. You can be polished, but if you are only playing to a few hundred, the you look small time compared to what everyone imagines when they think of wrestling.

I'm curious to see whether this is actually treated as an alternative. What I mean by that is, I've never met a TNA fan who didn't also watch the WWE. I know a trillion people who only watch the WWE. So it's really not an alternative. It's just additional wrestling that you are watching. I also live in Canada so I probably have a different perspective.

That is a problem. I think people are really ready for there to be competition. More and more I see fatigue and hear about people I thought were hardcore fans not watching anymore. WWE is everyone's gateway into wrestling, and everything else is auxiliary. Even New Japan depends on almost a contrarian position to WWE. It's "Not WWE" to a lot of people. I still haven't taken the dive and subscribed to World yet. I might still, but you need more than goodwill and just being something else on the market that is a babyface underdog that people, for whatever reason, don't actually jump on.

I hear about how there are all these alternatives out there, but truthfully, most of them suck. They aren't what I like in wrestling, and the one I am hopeful for, New Japan, exists in a realm that feels so other to WWE that they don't feel like they really occupy space together. I think what people really want is something with mainstream access that anyone can watch that they can choose over WWE. Who knows if they will?

Danny Electric

11-23-2018, 06:05 PM

Hmmm so Tony Khan is part of internet wrestling groups , come on own up, which of you is Tony Khan.

Mr. Nerfect

11-23-2018, 07:17 PM

I fucking wish I was Tony Khan.

Evil Vito

11-23-2018, 07:29 PM

I’ll never be Tony Khan. Guess I’ll have to settle for being Shao Kahn.

Mr. Nerfect

11-23-2018, 07:53 PM

God damn it, I'm only Shang Tsung.

Mr. Nerfect

11-23-2018, 07:54 PM

This is a broad generalization, but it's really weird to look at the similarities between the McMahon family and the Khan family.

Mr. Nerfect

11-23-2018, 09:41 PM

WrestleTalk, which seems mainly to be a speculative site most of the time, has broken the "news" that apparently two WWE stars who were informally approached about joining AEW have given their provisional agreement to join the promotion once their contracts expire by April.

I really don't think it will be AJ Styles and Shinsuke Nakamura, given that they seem well looked after by WWE. I'd take a random guess with Gallows & Anderson, which doesn't exactly thrill me.

slik

11-24-2018, 02:02 AM

Destor is Tony Khan AND Alabama Doink

SlickyTrickyDamon

11-24-2018, 02:37 AM

I expect WWE to sue if Bullet Club attempts to be a huge part of a new American promotion. A clear ripoff of their IP (nWo)

Supreme Olajuwon

11-24-2018, 07:29 AM

Hmmm so Tony Khan is part of internet wrestling groups , come on own up, which of you is Tony Khan.

There was one poster I remember who was a Jacksonville Jaguars fan. Can’t think of his name though.

Supreme Olajuwon

11-24-2018, 07:32 AM

There was one poster I remember who was a Jacksonville Jaguars fan. Can’t think of his name though.

Ermaximus

Danny Electric

11-24-2018, 08:02 AM

Could be him from his profile page and messages I think he was a black guy.

I wonder if this means that WWE will give AJ Styles what he wants with his reduced schedule in his contract renewal.

Personally , I wouldn’t mind another promotion doing well. I’ve cancelled my network subscription and try and keep up every now and then but mostly just watch NXT.

Vastardikai

11-24-2018, 09:17 PM

SlickyTrickyDamon

11-24-2018, 10:46 PM

WWE would have to be over borderline retarded to let the New Day go

Supreme Olajuwon

11-24-2018, 10:54 PM

I’d be interested to see what the “Are they main eventers, I dunno, maybe” types from WWE might do if they had a viable American alternative. Your Cesaros, Big Es, Balors, Kevin Owens types.

Could be fun.

Evil Vito

11-25-2018, 01:02 AM

It's definitely not Kevin Owens going, he signed a new five-year deal with WWE last year. A shame really as I'd be all for Owens and Zayn crashing the AEW party.

Mr. Nerfect

11-26-2018, 03:17 PM

The New Day would be kissing away a lot of money and merchandise sales to potentially burn a bridge with Vince. The talent I see going are guys that have a very clearly imposed ceiling. Dolph Ziggler, Finn Balor and Cesaro come to mind. Sasha Banks from the women. There could be greater artistic frustrations than we know about, which could factor in to your Kevin Owens and Sami Zayn types. I really do not see AJ Styles or Shinsuke Nakamura risking it this cycle.

Mr. Nerfect

11-26-2018, 06:30 PM

I see Gallows & Anderson going. From New Japan, I can see Kota Ibushi signing with them. He's been very reluctant to tie himself down to New Japan, and he seems close with The Elite guys. I don't really see a big exodus of any more talent, because with The Elite guys possibly leaving (although I'm sure they'd still like to work with New Japan), it creates more spots and room for upwards momentum. Talent there can always play a "wait and see" game to see if AEW gets television or whatever. But if Kenny Omega and Cody Rhodes leave, Jay White and Zack Sabre, Jr. become the biggest gaijin there by default. White is already being pushed as #2 although ZSJ has had some big moments too.

From WWE, I mentioned Ziggler, Balor and Cesaro, but it just depends on when their contracts come up. Balor signed with WWE in 2014, so assuming it was a three-year deal, he probably re-upped in 2017, which means he might be at the start of a five-year cycle, which means he wouldn't be free until 2022, and WWE is not going to willingly let him go. But maybe he only re-signed for two or three, or maybe his original deal was for five or only two, which can change things. I'm obviously just speculating.

I think Cesaro re-signed in 2016. That's still very recent. It's possible that a three-year deal would expire in 2019, but who knows how long he signed for? He doesn't seem as important as the guys they try to chain down for five years, so maybe it was just three?

Another guy I didn't mention was Rusev. He seems to have a rocky relationship with management at times. They seem to think he's worth something, but he's certainly been "underused" as they say. At the end of last year, I was kind of predicting him to leave anyway, but it seems his attitude (obviously from an outside perspective) is "dude, fuck it," and he's just happy coasting and getting the occasional mid-card PPV title match. But it wouldn't surprise me if he leaves when his deal is up.

Two more names that spring into my head are Luke Harper and Kassius Ohno. Harper has been MIA since Erick Rowan got injured. They seem to know how good he is, but he's not a guy they've ever really commited to. Lots of stop-start with the guy. Even when he hits it out of the park (like that match with Orton at Elimination Chamber last year), it seems Vince doesn't really want to get behind the guy to the extent that fans seem to feel he's worth. He's getting up there in age, so if he wants to prove something artistically, splitting with WWE to be a monster in a promotion where he's going to be a bigger dude (he's about the same size as Orton in WWE, which does seem to hurt his perception as a monster, despite him being able to work like one) could be beneficial. He's been with WWE for almost seven years now and main roster for five of them. If he's been smart with his money, he may not need WWE anymore.

Ohno is interesting. He seems content with his player/coach role in NXT, but as far as talent goes, he's got a bit more to offer than that, despite him ballooning up. He's still got stamina and indy cache that is not really likely to be capitalized on beyond his role of putting over the latest signee. If he gets bored or whatever and gets a decent offer to do a more focused version of that role in AEW, possibly teaming with Cesaro or even being a part-time manager type for him, then he might consider taking it. He signed with WWE in very late 2016, so if it were a three-year deal then he his contract would be up just as they are getting television, but who knows if he's on a proper deal with them or not? I can't see them giving him AJ Styles money to be in the role he's in, or necessarily committing to him long-term given his history with them and being released once before.

Jordan

11-26-2018, 06:42 PM

Meltzer was saying Gable and Mojo Rawley could be guys that he'd think may want to go.

Mr. Nerfect

11-26-2018, 06:49 PM

Rawley seems "so WWE" to me. He seems like the sort of dude who will chip away knowing that his sporting background and connection to Gronk will keep him getting paid and keep getting him opportunities.

Gable is an interesting one. He's obviously a very talented dude. He's got an Olympic background which should be something WWE really promotes. He seems to have a great aptitude for things, but they just don't seem "all in" on the guy. It's like they're constantly testing the dude way beyond what they need to. But freak athletes like him always have a major drive, so if he keeps plucking away, I can see him making it. And it seems like they are doing something with him now. Whether that's a short run with the Raw Tag Titles or a feud with Bobby Roode, I imagine that there are plans to at least feature him on TV in a mid-card spot.

My gut tells me to lean towards neither of them jumping. I think it'll be more the indy guys with artistic desires that they just don't get to fulfill in WWE. But not the guys in major spots. Guys like Rollins, Ambrose, Joe, Styles, Owens, etc. are just guys I don't see giving up their WWE spots.

11-26-2018, 06:59 PM

If for nothing else it might give guys a bit of “use me, or lose me” leverage.

You look back at all of the NXT “promotions” from the last few years and barely anyone is being used. Guys like Rawley, No Way Jose, Tyler Breeze, Dillinger, etc. have done nothing for months. Sanity just got cycled in to fill out a spot for the Survivor Series and we likely won’t see them again for a while.

These aren’t guys that are gonna main event a new promotion but they could be useful for something.

EIWF

11-28-2018, 12:02 PM

I expect WWE to sue if Bullet Club attempts to be a huge part of a new American promotion. A clear ripoff of their IP (nWo)

the golden rule, it doesnt matter who created it first, its who copyrighted it first. Vince tries to own everything. If he thinks its irrelevant like a couple of old boys making 30 bucks he wont care (demolition using the name and look on the indy scene) But as he has shown before, if something could make a bit of money, he will get the lawyers involved.

Fignuts

11-28-2018, 03:05 PM

I mean he already has with the too sweet stuff. Without that, I don’t think he could do anything about it. They don’t have a copyright on the colors black and white.

Doesn’t really matter anyhow, as Bullet Club won’t be a part of it. Fairly certain NJPW owns Bullet Club, and regardless The Elite recently shed the name on a recent episode of BTE. Bullet Club is now exclusively the BCOG’s.

Evil Vito

11-28-2018, 04:01 PM

Yep. Kenny, Cody, Marty, Hangman, and The Bucks all officially left Bullet Club a few weeks ago. They are a standalone group, and presumably still will be if they continue to hang around New Japan after AEW opens.

Innovator

11-28-2018, 04:48 PM

Poor Yujiro and Chase

Fignuts

11-28-2018, 05:32 PM

It would be cool if AEW actually worked a lot with other promotions, and had their champ occasionally defend the belt against outside talent.

Heisenberg

11-28-2018, 06:44 PM

It would be cool if AEW actually worked a lot with other promotions, and had their champ occasionally defend the belt against outside talent.

I don’t know, partner. Seems like they should keep AEW as their top priority and not rely on appearing elsewhere until they solidify their brand. Fuckin GFW appears around the globe or so they say and make zero splash on any radar worth a damn, mister.

Fignuts

11-28-2018, 11:15 PM

Yeah mister, I meant down the road. They have to make their belt mean something first. It would just be cool to see a championship that is defended against all comers, like old school NJPW.

slik

11-29-2018, 04:40 PM

From today's Wrestling Observer

All Elite Wrestling

* At a meet and greet in Melbourne, Australia, Cody was asked about a new promotion and said to wait for January as an announcement will be made, and said the announcement would be bigger than anyone expects.

Simple Fan

11-29-2018, 11:21 PM

Going from BTE and everyone blowing off Marty's party I'd say an announcement comes January 1st. Marty is the only one if the bunch that isn't a free agent.

Mr. Nerfect

11-30-2018, 11:52 AM

Interesting. Cody shouldn't try to over-deliver on hype. I hope this means it is something big.