Avengers: End Game (2019) MAJOR SPOILERS INSIDE

[Kalyx triaD]

I will fist fight you over this.

[Seanny One Ball]

Coming into a TV or movie thread after launch and presuming everybody in it goes an extra mile for their lack of urgency is Shit Behavior. :fu:


Expecting everybody to have seen something just because you have is shit behaviour.

[Seanny One Ball]

I will fist fight you over this.


You don't have to. I'm actually fairly ambivalent towards spoilers unless somebody sees a spoiler tag, loses their shit for no reason and immediately posts massive great spoilers just to be a prick.

I can't make it any clearer than that.

This isn't for me, it's for the people... and some people don't keep track of launch dates or really expect open spoilers when everybody is gracious enough to tag them.

[Kalyx triaD]

THAT ARGUMENT COULD BE USED TO MAINTAIN TAGS UNTIL THE VERY LAST MAN DECIDES TO GET THE BLU RAY

WHERE'S THE LINE, SEAN

...WHO DRAWS THE LINE

[Kalyx triaD]

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[Seanny One Ball]

Are you just ignoring where I said I'd edit thread titles to include the word SPOILER if necessary?

My argument beats yours any day of the week anyway. Mine involves sparing people, yours involves confronting them for no damned reason besides your own preference.

Think about others.

[Lock Jaw]

This isn't for me, it's for the people...

Classic tyrant reasoning.......

[Seanny One Ball]

Classic for a reason

[Damian Rey 2.0]

I think a week after release is a good spot to ditch the spoiler tags.

[Rammsteinmad]

Kaylx raises a good point though. When do you "draw the line" and decide it's okay to speak openly?

If it's such a huge issue Seanny, then simple logic is that, now that you have the power to do so, every time a movie reaches its release date, edit the thread title.

There we go. Problem sorted and nobody has to cry about spoilers.

[Rammsteinmad]

And also, what Damien Ray said. Which is what I said until my post got deleted. Like a bunch of kids in here.

[Seanny One Ball]

Please read my posts

[Rammsteinmad]

No.

[Shadow]

Doesn't matter. Spoilers are lifted on Monday anyways when Far From Home drops.

[Seanny One Ball]

I'd be thoroughly ashamed if I was so desperate to recount spoilers with no hint of a discussion behind them.

Being a cunt for being a cunt's sake.

Hang your heads in shame for you are not gentlemen.

[Seanny One Ball]

No wonder Destor was so mad all the time.

[Rammsteinmad]

Get over it.

[Seanny One Ball]

Spoiler tags allow and facilitate free discussion between individuals in a thread regardless of who has seen what.

Open spoilers drive a fraction of people away.

Editing a current thread title to insert "SPOILERS INSIDE" actually stops a bunch of people who had been posting in it from continuing to do so.

Typing spoiler tags into your post does not take long, does everybody the favour of allowing them to decide if they want to read it and it's just safer that way overall.

Why the hell is this even a discussion?
You cannot face fact with opinion.

[Seanny One Ball]

But like I said earlier I will do lots of editing so that you don't have to spend three seconds tagging your posts every time you want to blurt out the ending.

[Kalyx triaD]

You're making the ability to enter a thread way more than it is. I avoid movie and TV threads all the time post-launch with no feeling of being excluded or whatever the hell you're dramatizing until I see the damn thing and join the convo.

And let's be 100% real here: The glory days of a sub-section being full of updated unread threads after logging off for a day is gone. Pages flip by slower, engagement is low. You aren't missing out on anything.

[Seanny One Ball]

You're making the use of spoiler tags seem way harder than it is.

I've already capitulated. I can't trust you guys not to openly spoil things so now I'll have to make do with frequent title edits.

If there's any more of this "fuck it I'm spoiling anyway" attitude I will just delete the post though.
So I'm baking your cake as well as letting you have and eat it too.

Can't say fairer than that.

[Kalyx triaD]

You're making title edits way harder than it is.

[Seanny One Ball]

Timing!

:lol:

[wwe2222]

Most other boards I belong to have a standard 5 day or one week policy for spoiler tags along with a note in thread title whether spoilers are allowed yet or not. It’s not that difficult to follow.

Some people like check the thread for a review or to se now the movie was without wanting to see spoilers. But after the grace period enter at your own risk.

[Seanny One Ball]

Here at TPWW we spoil everything for everyone.

Enter at your own risk because people actually die here.

[Fignuts]

Suppose the easiest solution is to just make a new spoiler thread when the movie comes out. Kind of like how some you tubers have separate review videos for spoilers and non spoilers.

[Ruien]

What else would be discussed in this thread? So we use spoilers for discussing the movie. Fine. What would not be in spoilere?

[Seanny One Ball]

I honestly ignored that post because it seemed too disingenuous to warrant any sort of response at all.

If you are genuinely unabashedly asking what some people may discuss in a movie thread without having seen the movie... what the fuck does anybody have any posts in here for before Endgame came out?

You are asking me to explain being decent and I am baffled as to how any of you are surprised I choose to think of everybody rather than a minority or majority.

I have even offered to edit thread titles and posts just because you seem so intent on not using spoiler tags the very moment you have seen the entertainment in discussion.

What the fuck?

Seriously?

How were you raised?

[Ruien]

I wasn't raised to assume everyone on the internet should abide by my rules and tastes.

[Seanny One Ball]

That statement applies more to my position than it does yours. :lol:

So... What exactly do you find so difficult about spoiler tags? Trips might be able to change the code if you want it done easier?

You are arguing for the right to be an arsehole. I am not going to deny you that right, but I will edit threads accordingly.

[Blonde Moment]

It's harder to Troll when you have defined rules

[Ruien]

Pretty sure this has more to do with the fact your a broke bum who can't afford movies. But to each their own :D

[Blonde Moment]

That's Damniator.
I've been gainfully employed in the US since it was legal for me to do so but considering the stupidity I have seen talked about around here, I would much rather be living paycheque to paycheque than be one of the well off fucktards that some of you claim to be.

And as it sits I'm with Seanny on this issue.

[Emperor Smeat]

If its defined in the thread itself or forum policy, 1 week feels very fair for using spoiler tags for films.

Somewhere between 1.5 to 2 weeks is probably the sweet spot since you'd cover everyone who couldn't watch it during the 1st week for various reasons. After that, its fair game on spoilers being out in the open.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

One week after worldwide release seems fair. I think 2 weeks is far too long. Anyone who really wants to see it is likely make the time to do so in the first week. If we were using 2 weeks we'd have to wait 6 more days in this thread, and that seems like an awful long time.

[Sixx]

Meh, if you don't want spoilers what's the point of a thread about a movie?

Can just stick to the "Rate the last movie you saw' thread.

[Seanny One Ball]

This discussion started when Rammsteinmad saw spoiler tags in here after the film came out and decided to post spoilers just to make sure that anybody who came in here definitely knew the ending.

You are arguing with me about that.

You are now putting time limits on decency.
All of this speaks towards your laziness, selfishness and inability to discuss a topic without immediately spilling your guts the moment you know something that others may not.

None of you had used the spoilers to discuss the topic without using spoiler tags...
The only real spoilers have been done out of weird juvenile anger.

[Seanny One Ball]

Meh, if you don't want spoilers what's the point of a thread about a movie?

Can just stick to the "Rate the last movie you saw' thread.


A racist alcoholic spoils everything anyway.

[Sixx]

A racist alcoholic spoils everything anyway.

True.

But seriously, I do not post spoilers, but I don't mind them. It's a thread to discuss a movie, you should expect people to discuss the plot.

[Seanny One Ball]

So far only Rammsteinmad and Damian have purposefully tried to spoil the film.

They defend their right to do so based on an arbitrary judgement of time and their own convenience.

I find that self entitled attitude offensive but nothing can be done besides editing.

You can't teach stupid but you can tag it.

[Rammsteinmad]

You expect us to put spoiler tags in a film thread over a week after the films release, when you could just as easily just not go in the thread for a few precious days.

I find that self entitled attitude offensive but nothing can be done besides editing.

[Rammsteinmad]

The argument works both ways and will just keep going in circles. Easiest way to look at it is that we're both selfish cunts.

[Frank Drebin]

Loved it.

Almost ruined by a group of 3 or 4 ten year olds behind me who talked through the entire film. Right before that crowd pleasing moment for Cap, kid says "OH THIS IS THE MOST EPIC PART EVER!!!" totally taking me out of the movie. His parents shushed him once or twice but he never really shut up. Thought about casually tossing the remnants of my drink at him but didn't think assaulting a child would look good on my resume.

Hopefully I'll see it again at some point so I can enjoy those parts of the movie.

[GD]

The only logical solution, Franky D

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[Seanny One Ball]

You expect us to put spoiler tags in a film thread over a week after the films release, when you could just as easily just not go in the thread for a few precious days.

I find that self entitled attitude offensive but nothing can be done besides editing.

This is nonsense.

The argument works both ways and will just keep going in circles. Easiest way to look at it is that we're both selfish cunts.


No... it really doesn't work both ways.

[Savio]

Bad MMA opinions and whiny in thread spoilers debates.


Are we sure Seanny isn't Kris P Lettuce?

[Seanny One Ball]

It's not a debate.

[Blonde Moment]

Bad MMA opinions and whiny in thread spoilers debates.


Are we sure Seanny isn't Kris P Lettuce?

Hope not

[Damian Rey 2.0]

So far only Rammsteinmad and Damian have purposefully tried to spoil the film.

They defend their right to do so based on an arbitrary judgement of time and their own convenience.

I find that self entitled attitude offensive but nothing can be done besides editing.

You can't teach stupid but you can tag it.

Meh. I didn't try to spoil nothing. The film had been out a week by the time I posted my feelings on it. Two days after I saw it. If I ruined it for anybody my apologies. But that just reinforces the idea that we need a hard rule on how long to use spoiler tags. The movie had been out for 8 days by the time I posted about my experience watching it. At some point the spoiler tags shouldn't be needed and it's reader beware.

And I think a week after release is a solid time frame.

[Savio]

Snape kills Soylent Green which turns out to be a sled but also Luke's Father.

[Seanny One Ball]

When you posted your experience of it initially you used spoiler tags.

The moment Rammsteinmad went out of his way to openly spoil the ending you quoted his post and repeated the spoiler too.

There is no need for that sort of posturing. You U-turned on your spoilers immediately just because someone else refused to use them.

I didn't need to know the ending and I don't think it's fair to suggest that going into a thread where everybody was talking about what may happen and telling them what actually does happen is a fine thing to do just because the movie is now out.

Try your best to tag things regardless of when the film came out unless you are in a spoiler thread.
Failing that I will edit tags into posts or change the thread title.

All of this has been repeated in triplicate.

[Savio]

Seanny if everyone disagrees with you, you are most likely wrong.

[Blonde Moment]

Whose the mod here so we can clear this up?

[Ruien]

Seanny if everyone disagrees with you, you are most likely wrong.

This. Seanny is looking like a complete idiot in this thread. Seems odd.

[Kalyx triaD]

Just do a poll.

[Triple A]

If the thread title says "major spoilers inside" then what is the issue... People should be able to post spoilers in the thread... And people who don't want it spoiled should avoid the thread if it says "MAJOR SPOILERS INSIDE"... Confused about the argument...

[Triple A]

Most other boards I belong to have a standard 5 day or one week policy for spoiler tags along with a note in thread title whether spoilers are allowed yet or not. It’s not that difficult to follow.

Some people like check the thread for a review or to se now the movie was without wanting to see spoilers. But after the grace period enter at your own risk.

This also seems reasonable to me

[Seanny One Ball]

If the thread title says "major spoilers inside" then what is the issue... People should be able to post spoilers in the thread... And people who don't want it spoiled should avoid the thread if it says "MAJOR SPOILERS INSIDE"... Confused about the argument...


I edited the title to say that after Rammsteinmad decided to post the ending just to make some sort of demented point.

This lot are arguing over not wanting to use spoiler tags despite me repeatedly saying do what you like because I'll edit thread titles accordingly.

There's a difference between discussing a topic and posting purely to give away details.

So I'll say it again, if people don't want to use spoiler tags I will edit the thread titles.

Do you want me to say it again?

[Seanny One Ball]

Seanny if everyone disagrees with you, you are most likely wrong.

Aye that's right, and anybody that holds a door open for somebody else is a cunt.

This. Seanny is looking like a complete idiot in this thread. Seems odd.

:y:

[Seanny One Ball]

Just do a poll.

I capitulated pages ago. You were there.

[Kalyx triaD]

So you not gonna do a poll tho?

[Seanny One Ball]

To what end?

If there are people determined to post spoilers wherever they want, all I can do is put warnings in thread titles.
You all have the ability to create threads so you can decide for yourselves if you want spoilers in them when you write the title.

Will a poll change that?

[Savio]

I don't want to see the poll end up 8 to 1

[Seanny One Ball]

Idiot, I've already given you what you want. There was nothing to take away.

At no point does a poll give anybody any advantage when there is nothing at stake.

[Kalyx triaD]

It's not a legislative poll, just an experiment of sorts. Your argument constantly deferred to the opposition being assholes and people must be protected from us.

So... I'd like to see how many people agreed with this. It's just curious that nobody actually spoke for themselves on the matter. It's us who wish to speak openly in the movie's thread, and you who fears for a hypothetical victim of our chat, and... that's it. Nobody to explain exactly why they aren't able to avoid a thread for a while. It's just been your assertion that they can't help themselves, far as I can tell.

I just wanna see a poll on the matter.

[Lock Jaw]

MY OPINION ON THIS MATTER:

Who cares, it isn't that big of a deal. Everyone just move on. No one should be caring about any of what has happened in this thread with spoilers so much.

[Fignuts]

Yeah, let’s talk about Avengers you fags.

[Kalyx triaD]

The problem was literally concerning talking about Avengers.

[Kalyx triaD]

When the X-Men came out of that time vortex yooooooooo. Hype. I cried.

[Blonde Moment]

When the X-Men came out of that time vortex yooooooooo. Hype. I cried.

All kidding aside, you apparently missed the easter eggs involving .

[Tom Guycott]

Just riding right by the previous page and a half about tags. I'm using them anyway, just needed to get my wall o text printed first, since I keep getting trapped with that "back key" thing. I don't have much of a problem with tags myself. It is just an extra click to see and a tiny bit of extra typing to make.




I agree with Kalyx. I think Cap just lived out his life, and at some point jumped back into his original timeline once his life with Peggy came to an end. The Russos are better off not explaining it.

Didn't seem like any sort of logical leap to me. He spent the time with her living, and it didn't really screw anything up since his parallel was busy being frozen in the Arctic. He either spent all the time there until her end, or left when his younger self got thawed so he wouldn't screw much of anything else up in that timeline.

My biggest takeaway and surprise was how they treated Thanos. I sure as shit didn't expect him to just sit back and retire. He looked like his will to live had vanished. He completed his life mission and was now ready to just let whatever happens, happen.

Then we get 2014 Thanos. Who is a fucking monster. Infinity Wars Thanos seemed very calm, calculated and focused on one goal. Whereas 2014 Thanos was much more vicious. He mentioned it was never personal until now. You could see that with how he fought. He was aiming to kill instead of trying to get people out of his way.



The time travel was interesting, especially since they were wrestling with not only the implications, but the process itself ("You weren't moving him through time, you were moving time through him!" "Back To The Future is BULLSHIT!"). Nice nod to the "hail Hydra" that made people lose their fucking minds.

Also, the people that existed vs the people they would become in time. Current Thanos didn't simply accomplish what he set out to do, but he a) had to sacrifice Gamora to do it, and b) live with not only the consequences- which he was okay with- but apparently the "temptation" of power. Probably saw it as a monkey's paw, which is why he destroyed them. That Thanos had that weight of experience and full knowledge of what winning meant, cost, and resulted in... 2014 Thanos did not. He only saw that he won. He could get all six stones without giving anything up. He was still in a conquering mindset. In the showdown itself, he had already changed his goal to destroy everything and remake existence itself instead of his ambiguously self-righteous goal of saving the universe by indiscriminately sacrificing half.

Not just Thanos, but anyone out of time. Younger Gamora, who hasn't had her adventure to see the full extent of what a shithead her dad is and grow into her own person from that, and Older Nebula, who has grown past trying to please Thanos to become his favoite, have essentially switched places. Going forward I'm interested in how that human aspect is going to be reconciled with everyone who came back with five years just missing vs everyone who lived through it.

The only time discrepancy I had a tiny issue with was Loki and the Tesseract. If he escaped with it, that would be how he got it for later... but that escape didn't happen the first time, since there wasn't a second set of time-hopping Avengers. By solving a problem, they created another one. At best, they moved something up slightly, as he apparently did escape with it anyway and was supposed to end up with it. At worst, they created one of those divergent timelines anyhow without realizing it.

In the words of TFS Perfect Cell: "Multiverse theory's a bitch."

Also, another minor annoyance that really didn't bother anyone but me... what the hell was up with Sam's lineup at the end? It really looked like they added a CGI beard and sideburns - and did so unevenly to boot - in that last scene with the shield. If that was his real facial hair, he should fire his barber.

All in all, pretty satisfying to go from Iron Man* to this, especially if one thinks about it not as a shared universe of movies, but essentially a live-action run of a comic continuity. Asterisk because Hulk kinda counts, but not really.



Loved it.

Almost ruined by a group of 3 or 4 ten year olds behind me who talked through the entire film. Right before that crowd pleasing moment for Cap, kid says "OH THIS IS THE MOST EPIC PART EVER!!!" totally taking me out of the movie. His parents shushed him once or twice but he never really shut up. Thought about casually tossing the remnants of my drink at him but didn't think assaulting a child would look good on my resume.

Hopefully I'll see it again at some point so I can enjoy those parts of the movie.

That's why you ammend your resume to say you run a boy cleaning service on the side to dress up the drink dousing. That's why I'm glad I went during the week at an early showing. Little bastards like that were at school.

[Kalyx triaD]

A very important distinction between Post-IW Thanos and 2014-Thanos was yes, this Thanos wasn't burdened with sacrifices needed to win (Infinity War was a movie about who could and couldn't make hard choices). Thano 2014, I felt, was affected by seeing his future self broken and killed than he gave off.

At the final battle he revealed that for the first time it was personal, now that he knows that the unruly wretches on Earth would actually avenge the taken and more or less win eventually. The combination of not taking the Avengers seriously enough and seeing his own death led to a shift that we almost didn't catch.

He made peace with planning to lie.

Multiple times between these two movies it was made very clear that Thanos does not lie. He didn't raise his daughters to do so, and he honored every deal we see him do in his appearences - up to sparing Stark's life when given the Time Stone, an act of honesty that ultimately cost him his entire campaign.

So what does 2014 Thanos do? He plans on killing everything ever, an indictment on his own original motivations, and openly ignores that the new universe would be built on a lie. This regresses more into a more traditional villain, of course, and this more unhinged Thanos is presented throughout the final battle. More prone to impatience, rash decisions, and mistakes.

Under no circumstance would a calculated, "I'll do it myself" Thanos do something as risky as take on the Avengers knowing they have the Stones. Before he grew stronger as he collected them, having a head start with the Power Stone. Now he just has a fancy sword, and no actual experience telling him that Dr Strange by himself was able to hang when he had four stones. Stark made him bleed when he had four stones. Wanda held him back one handed when he had FIVE stones. And Thor nearly killed him AFTER he tried a full Infinity blast. As powerful as he was, the Avengers are dangerous when they go full throttle. Something a methodical Thanos would keep in mind, but not an impatient Thanos. Not one who abandoned reason.

What I love about his death was his deafening silence. It's essentially playing back his opening speech in IW. But what I get from it was he couldn't meet the standard he saw in his future self. It's like seeing yourself in five years with a great job and hot wife, so you just overconfidently go for that job and the girl who doesn't even know you yet... only to screw it all up. You're not the guy to be, not yet. And now not ever.

[Seanny One Ball]

It's not a legislative poll, just an experiment of sorts. Your argument constantly deferred to the opposition being assholes and people must be protected from us.

So... I'd like to see how many people agreed with this. It's just curious that nobody actually spoke for themselves on the matter. It's us who wish to speak openly in the movie's thread, and you who fears for a hypothetical victim of our chat, and... that's it. Nobody to explain exactly why they aren't able to avoid a thread for a while. It's just been your assertion that they can't help themselves, far as I can tell.

I just wanna see a poll on the matter.


You can make polls, you don't have to be a mod to do that.
Also I called Rammsteinmad an asshole for being vindictive, I certainly said the attitude was selfish and lazy but I don't think I called everybody arseholes in the way you are suggesting.

If I did it was because I became distracted from the point I initially made which was ignored repeatedly.

But thank you for reading my posts. I'm glad you recognise my position even if you disagree.

[Big Vic]

As a mod of this forum you sure like ruining threads Seanny

[El Vaquero de Infierno]

There is so much "gay" in this thread; y'all need to start braiding one another's hair.

[Innovator]

Too much kneeling

[Big Vic]

For a mod of this forum you sure like ruining threads Seanny.

Edit: Please stop spamming troll posts, Vic.

[Seanny One Ball]

The spoiler discussion at least yielded some answers.

Please stay on topic.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Kalyx with an excellent take on the two Thanos takes we got in one film.

[Rammsteinmad]

Currently the second highest grossing film of all time. God, I really hope this tops Avatar and takes the number one position.

[Fignuts]

Hope it does. Hate Avatar.

[Kalyx triaD]

Zoe Saldana and her agent cackles at this race.

[Seanny One Ball]

She probably got paid less than Stephen Lang for Avatar.

[Kalyx triaD]

I imagine the random actress from a pseudo-sequel to The Professional would get paid less than a guy who been around.

The woman with two billion dollar movies on her resume now? That's a bargaining chip Disney will have to recognize.

[Seanny One Ball]

She had virtually no impact on their success.

Any attractive woman with moderate acting ability could have filled those roles.
They weren't important enough to pay top dollar for a big name actress so you end up with Zoe Saldana who is possibly the perfect generic standard of beauty. You can tell she's attractive but why bother looking again because oh look, a funny joke or explosion.

[Seanny One Ball]

Zoe Saldana is 3/5 across the board, because the 3/5's never rock the boat.

[Fignuts]

It doesn’t matter how good of an actress she is. It’s all about marketability, and she’s a well liked big budget mainstay.

[Ruien]

She has Star Trek under her belt too right? I dont know shit about actore and actresses but I know her. Shes definitely popular.

[Seanny One Ball]

Her ensemble films are popular.
She is lucky to be along for the ride based on talent alone. She has lucked into marketability by having snuck into three major franchises because she was cheap, attractive and decent.

Nobody was buying tickets to Avatar, Star Trek or Guardians to see Zoe Saldana at work. She was boosted by 3D, an established franchise reboot and a plum spot in a film carried by Chris Pratt's name value and public interest in "comic book movies".

I don't mind her. That's precisely why she's famous.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

The one movie that was a vehicle for her was Columbiana, and that was a critical and commercial failure. I like Zoe Saldana more than enough. But she's a role player.

[Fignuts]

I'm not even sure what we're arguing about.

[Shadow]

Nerds being nerds.

[Fignuts]

Throwaway line towards the beginning could tease what’s in store for black panther 2. Okoye tells Widow that there was an earthquake under the ocean. This could end up being the result of Namor and Atlantis, which has had a long running feud with Wakanda in the comics.

[Kalyx triaD]

I like that rumor. That could work.

[ClockShot]

I went and caught this on Tuesday. Avoided the thread at launch time and jumped in after I watched. It got crazy in here.

Here's my take/thoughts on Endgame. Not gonna to into too much depth.

- For as long I have been a movie lover, I've noticed then when a movie starts off with a really good song playing, it turns out to be a really good movie. Like, when The Rolling Stones' Gimme Shelter kicked off The Departed. So, when I heard Traffic's Dear Mr. Fantasy fire up, my toe was tappin', my head was bobbin', and I was singing along. I knew then I was in for a good show.

- I had a few theories about how the surviving team would reverse The Snap. Suicide mission to snag the gauntlet from Thanos, find The Book of Vishanti and perform a spell/ritual, introduce Mephisto and offer the Avengers one hell of a deal, steal the time stone itself and fuck around with time travel. Nope. Turns out Thanos turned the stones into dust and Scott Lang and the Quantum Realm is the key. Who knew?

- I agree with some of the comments about Thor. I think they took the broken, drunk, Jeff Lebowski thing a bit too far.

- Totally surprised they got almost everyone back for this. Got Robert Redford out of retirement to reprise Alexander Pierce for 30 seconds, Tilda Swinton, Frank Grillo, Hayley Atwell, etc. A couple notables M.I.A were Toby Jones, Chiwetel Ejiofor, maybe one or two that I missed. Probably since Soderbergh's Ocean's trilogy you never had that much star power jammed in one movie. Incredible.

- HA! Pre-Guardians 1 Gamora got pulled to the "present day". Now she and Star Lord gotta fall in love all over again. Should make for a good Guardians 3. I wonder if James Gunn trashed the script once he found that out. Kinda bummed out that the rest of them got a few seconds of screen time and Rocket and Nebula were pretty holding down the them representation for the whole flick.

- Hi Bree Larson. Bye Bree Larson. See ya in a couple hours. :wave: :nono: That solo movie she just had only to save a spaceship and destroy a spaceship in Endgame was a head scratcher. I wish she had more of a role in this.

- The Black Widow death threw me off. When they had to go back to Vormin I knew someone had to go. I knew the movie was in the works, but since it's going to be a prequel now makes it interesting.

- Tony Stark saves us all. And gives up his life for it. I thought it was either him or Cap. Steve Rogers putting the stones back, but staying in the past to stay with Betty, and reappearing in the present aged and handing off the Shield was a pretty great moment.

-Finally, I enjoyed the cast credits. You got everybody in there, but when you get to the main bunch, they all "sign off" with their signature. To me, they're done, sans Thor. Everyone's wrapped up. And this was a hand off to the new kids on the block. Black Panther, Doctor Strange, Guardians, Captain Marvel, they got some shoes to fill.

[Ruien]

I thought Gamora was turned to dust with everyone else that came with Thanos?

[Gray]

She's the past version Gamora from 2014. So she was still aligned with Thanos at that point

[Fignuts]

Yeah, but one would assume that Tony knew she was good people, and made sure not to dust her.

The search for Gamora is almost certainly going to be the main plot of (As)Guardians of the Galaxy. Maybe an awkward love triangle between her starlord and Thor.

[Sixx]

I really hope this beats Avatar as the highest grossing film.

Have my doubts, though.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

The idea of 2-2.5 hours of Thor unknowingly schmoozing Gamora while Quill tries his damndest to re win her over sounds hysterical. Please be a subplot of the next movie.

[Fignuts]

Some dude repped me saying that Universal has the rights to Namor. Reading up on it, it doesn't seem that clear cut. Seems Marvel shares ownership with Universal. Universal would own full distribution rights for a solo Namor film, but not necessarily an appearance.

Regardless, Disney has enough money to buy the solar system, and if they want Namor, they're going to fucking get Namor.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Could just do the same deal they're doing with Sony on Spider-Man. Considering what a money magnet anything Marvel has its name is, universal would be foolish not to consider.

[Rammsteinmad]

I really hope this beats Avatar as the highest grossing film.

Have my doubts, though.

Same. I have a brief check every day but it seems to be slowing down now. Shame. :(

[Seanny One Ball]

*Spoils movie to be a cunt*

"Damn, I wish more people would go see it."

[Seanny One Ball]

Totes lolz

[Kalyx triaD]

If Endgame doesn't beat Avatar the only possible reason in my head for that is a 3hr movie isn't rewatch friendly. I saw the first Avengers 3 times in theaters over two weeks. Endgame is amazing but it's a hell of a haul.

[Seanny One Ball]

Avatar is 162 minutes long.
It's 20 minutes shorter than Endgame.

[Seanny One Ball]

The biggest reason I can think of would be the leak and the inevitability of spoilers.

The home entertainment numbers will be stupidly high a few months down the road.

[Rammsteinmad]

I doubt people who want to see the film are going to be put off because of spoilers.

Like, oh I know what happens at the end now, no point in going. Fuck that of course they're gonna go.

IMO the deal with Avatar is because isn't that the film where 3D really kinda picked up and became what it is? I can say it's the only film I've ever seen in the cinema twice, once in 2D, and I enjoyed it so much I wanted to see what the 3D hype was all about so went again. (For the record I wasn't impressed. 2D is fine for me).

They probably made shit loads just off of people doing that.

[Seanny One Ball]

If it didn't make any difference they wouldn't care about leaks or spoilers. Every preview would show the ending.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

It prob makes a difference. But not enough of one to drive droves of fans away from seeing it. I knew damn near scene for scene what I was gonna see in Batman Begins because the original script "leaked", and still made it a point to see it twice.

The casual fan might be turned off by spoilers. But these days, it's almost expected with social media playing such large roles in our lives. I can't imagine people turning away due to a spoiler making that big of a dent in a film's earnings.

[Seanny One Ball]

There are more casual fans than anything else.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

And those casual fans still see shit on Twitter, Instagram, Facebook, and reddit. Social media isn't what it used to be, where it was a small corner of fandom for whatever the topic product was.

Going online and discussing things like movies and trading spoilers isn't reserved for just is nerds anymore. It's apart of the culture. Some still might never go to the theater if a movie is spoiled, but I doubt it's much. People are likely to go whether they know the ending or not.

[Seanny One Ball]

You're making big assumptions there.
I'm confident that spoilers impact noticeably upon box office revenue as there are established examples of it.
I think Endgame not beating Avatar could be an example of that.
Whether spoilers or leaks have any impact on home entertainment is harder to gauge but I imagine it's negligible with a "time heals all wounds" mindset.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

I mean, we're both making some assumptions here. There's nothing I'm aware where we could even remotely gauge this.

[Seanny One Ball]

You're a dirty liar!

[Seanny One Ball]

Just about fell off my chair laughing at myself there.

Good show.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Lmao you idiot. I just spat my water out.

[Seanny One Ball]

That was the truth trying to come out

[Damian Rey 2.0]

The water found your response repulsive and wanted nothing to do with my verbal reaction.

[Fignuts]

omg we were so close to talking about the movie again

[Seanny One Ball]

Ant Man!

[Kalyx triaD]

Stan Lee's cameo should have been at Cap's grief counseling giving a monologue about heroes. I know they couldn't have known when he'd die, but I would have at least beefed up his cameos to be more meaningful knowing he's generally at the end of his days.
One of a very few things I'd change or adjust in the movie.

[Seanny One Ball]

It's weird how his brother Bruce died so young and so Asian by comparison.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Yeah Stan's cameo was a blink and you'll miss it moment. And even then, I think a number of people in the audience missed it was him

[Shadow]

Honestly, even if they hadn't known this was his last cameo, I would've had him cameo as God escorting Tony to heaven.

[Kalyx triaD]

Like 'god' god?

[Fignuts]

lol come on

[Seanny One Ball]

It's the ending everybody wanted and were denied.

Stan "God" Lee flying off on Rocket boots with Tony Stark's corpse.

[Shadow]

Like 'god' god?

If Jack Kirby can be made God in comics, Stan Lee could've been God in the movies.

[Sixx]

Honestly, even if they hadn't known this was his last cameo, I would've had him cameo as God escorting Tony to heaven.

Wait, I'm supposed to be the drunk one here.

[Blonde Moment]

Like 'god' god?

You could have assumed he was God. Just have Tony running into him in the mist asking who he was and he could simple reply " I had a hand in your creation."

[Sixx]

You could have assumed he was God. Just have Tony running into him in the mist asking who he was and he could simple reply " I had a hand in your creation."

I will fuck your mother's corpse.

Also, good movie.

[Sixx]

Then again - no deal. I will skullfuck her on my own. Like a scavenger hunt. But with a corpse to fuck. Booyah!

[Kalyx triaD]

This god thing is stupid. Revealing Stan Lee as a trans-dimensional Watcher would be much more 'Marvel' and also a proper send off. But absent that, I like the counseling scene insert.

[Destor]

This thread was really shit.


The movie was aces though. Homerun.

[Shadow]

Get ready to break the Box Office record folks. Avengers Endgame is heading back to theaters with an extended cut.

[Lock Jaw]

Apparently just a deleted scene after the credits and some sort of tribute

[RP]

Get ready to break the Box Office record folks. Avengers Endgame is heading back to theaters with an extended cut.

It hasnt left the theaters

[XL]

Apparently just a deleted scene after the credits and some sort of tribute

That’ll be the scene with Tony and a grown up Morgan talking in “Soul World”.