Sonic The Hedgehog (2019)

[slik]

Sonic definitely does Crossfit

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[Kalyx triaD]

lol

[Sixx]

Too bad Dom DeLuise is dead. We could get a Mario movie.

[Kalyx triaD]

We are. All CGI, Nintendo involved.

[Sixx]

Jesus.

[Fignuts]

He looks like a monkey with Sonic's head.

[Sixx]

Producer of "The Fast and The Furious".

I guess he likes the "fast" part.

[Seanny One Ball]

Too bad Dom DeLuise is dead. We could get a Mario movie.



Have you never seen Super Mario Bro's.? Bob Hoskins and John Leguizamo. I think Dennis Hopper was in it.

[Sepholio]

Watching the Mario movie makes it easy to understand why there has always been such a stigma attached to converting game franchises to film.

[Fignuts]

There’s a stigma attached because they’re all awful. Even the ones that are dumb stupid fun like street fighter and mortal kombat are still objectively terrible.

But it’s okay. We have Castlevania on Netflix. The shining light in the darkness.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

If Jaleel White isn't Sonic than fuck it.

[RP]

Fred Savage as Sonic... confirmed.

[Sixx]

Have you never seen Super Mario Bro's.? Bob Hoskins and John Leguizamo. I think Dennis Hopper was in it.

I have.

DeLuise would have been better.

[Sixx]

Fred Savage as Sonic... confirmed.

That's... savage?

[Sixx]

For some reason I was sure Fred Savage OD'd and died years ago.

[Sixx]

Then again it's what I think about all the child actors.

[RP]

This will be a disaster.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Fred Savage about the same. I'm waiting....

[Kalyx triaD]

Mortal Kombat was a good movie.

Change my mind.

[Seanny One Ball]

Yeah I'm not on board with any Mortal Kombat or Street Fighter movie hate.
Christopher Lambert as Raiden in MK was a bit mental but Wes Studi and Raul Julia as Sagat and M. Bison were excellent pieces of casting. I could watch Street Fighter right now quite happily.

[Seanny One Ball]

Using a Belgian to play the All American is the sole strike that Street Fighter the movie has against it in my mind.

You could probably just tell kids that Guile was from Louisiana if they asked though.

[Kalyx triaD]

Mortal Kombat, despite the abysmal sequel 2yrs later, is never credited for lighting the spark that eventually led to the martial arts resurgence in Hollywood (which made for a transition the very next year in 1996 with New Line's Jackie Chan showcase Rumble in the Bronx). MK also introduced the world to how well karate and techno music mixes together. The fights are still amazing and I very gladly call it one of the best 90s martial arts movies period.

People who cite MK1 as an example of terrible game adaptations makes me wonder if they watched the damn thing.

[Sepholio]

Liu Kang! Your brothers soul is mine! You. Will. Be. Next.

[Rammsteinmad]

I love Street Fighter! That film is a guilty pleasure, and not in the so-bad-it's-hilarious way. Although it is that, too. But I just genuinely love it.

Ditto for the first Mortal Kombat.

And the soundtrack to Mortal Kombat: Annihilation is incredible.

[Sepholio]

The soundtracks for both Mortal Kombat movies are incredible. I had both of them when I was a kid.

[A.J.K]

Mortal Kombat was really good.

Mortal Kombat 2- it's a guilty pleasure.

[Swiss Ultimate]

You realize Tetris the movie is coming.

[Tom Guycott]

Mortal Kombat, despite the abysmal sequel 2yrs later, is never credited for lighting the spark that eventually led to the martial arts resurgence in Hollywood (which made for a transition the very next year in 1996 with New Line's Jackie Chan showcase Rumble in the Bronx). MK also introduced the world to how well karate and techno music mixes together. The fights are still amazing and I very gladly call it one of the best 90s martial arts movies period.

People who cite MK1 as an example of terrible game adaptations makes me wonder if they watched the damn thing.

Especially since what we had until then to go by was: the universally panned Super Mario Bros, <s>the 90 minute commercial for Super Mario Bros 3</s> The Wizard, Street Fighter and Double Dragon.

My only problem with the first MK movie was something that actually soured me on ANY hype and adverts for new movies to this day - the fact that between the three different versions of "the making of", the trailers, and interviews with b-roll segmented in between questions, the only part of the movie I hadn't seen by the time it actually came out was the fight with Reptile. Otherwise, I had seen the entire rest of the film aside from the credits, just out of order.

[Danny Electric]

Loved the Street Fighter film , poor Raul Julia dying making the film though. Always remember as a kid trying to see where they had used CGI to put him in, think it’s the end fight scene.

[Kalyx triaD]

A stuntman obviously did all the fights but Raul got to do a few reaction bumps at the end. Otherwise it's all him in his scene stealing glory.

[slik]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">He’s a whole new speed of hero. Watch the new trailer for Sonic The Hedgehog, in theatres this November. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/SonicMovie?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#SonicMovie</a> <a href="https://t.co/mogO8hfRaX">pic.twitter.com/mogO8hfRaX</a></p>&mdash; Sonic The Hedgehog (@SonicMovie) <a href="https://twitter.com/SonicMovie/status/1123207343322222599?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 30, 2019</a></blockquote>
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[slik]

:nono::(:eek::-\

[Fignuts]

Jesus give me strength.

[slik]

Why would you make a Sonic movie and take away the settings of Sonic, which are one of the best things about every Sonic game ever??

[Seanny One Ball]

Ben Schwartz as Sonic. I will watch it when it's out on dvd.

[Lock Jaw]

Seems like a sure thing for Best Picture at next Academy Awards

[Kalyx triaD]

Sonebody at Sega will be fired over this.

[Seanny One Ball]

Nah. Sega has a strong and storied history of disappointing its fans.

[Seanny One Ball]

I was a Sega guy growing up. Saturn was the tits.

[Shadow]

My god......

At least Jim Carrey's doing his best.

[KIRA]

You know there are certain shots in this trailer where Sonic doesn't look that bad like when he's making a face at whoever that guy is while he's talking to him in the car and when he's looking up at Doctor Eggman nee Robotnik while surrounded by drones. Basically when he's looking angry he looks fine it's when he tries to be funny and shows his human teeth that it all goes to hell

[mitchables]

the trailer looks abysmal but i'm sure the kids will love it

dunno why everyone keeps flipping out about live-action adaptations of anthropomorphic animals having human teeth though. like yeah, it's a little creepy, but i remember when michael bay's tmnt came out and everyone cracked it over their teeth and cited them as a key reason the new turtles were inferior to the 1990 ones, but like

https://static0.srcdn.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/TMNT-Teenage-Mutant-Ninja-Turtles-1990-Movie-April.jpg?q=50&fit=crop&w=738

it's not exactly a new thing

[Emperor Smeat]

Jim Carrey as Dr. Robtonik was great but everything else shown in the trailer wasn't good.

Like the inverse of the Detective Pikachu trailers in regards to not getting live-action right and should have just stuck to being an animated film instead.

[Seanny One Ball]

It looks way better than many upcoming films. Save the drama fo yo mama

[Lock Jaw]

For those who don't want to watch the trailer in that weird Twitter aspect ratio that slik loves to post

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[KIRA]

I tried to figure out what put me off about Sonic's design and then I figured it out they made him way too humanoid they should have exaggerated the proportions where they are normally exaggerated his hands and feet

[mitchables]

couple of good examples on le tweeter

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">i painted over a shot of the new sonic movie and it turned out a mix of classic and live action sonic lmao <a href="https://t.co/RdJlXiY1ra">pic.twitter.com/RdJlXiY1ra</a></p>&mdash; Aimée �� (@AimeeUeda) <a href="https://twitter.com/AimeeUeda/status/1123326781002481664?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 30, 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">a bit rusty on my painting, but I tried doing a paintover of a shot from the movie trailer with Sonic's design from the games for fun <a href="https://t.co/h6luDEVKWW">pic.twitter.com/h6luDEVKWW</a></p>&mdash; Aaron Hammerstrom (@virtanderson) <a href="https://twitter.com/virtanderson/status/1123288023096016897?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 30, 2019</a></blockquote>
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[mitchables]

i actually think that first one is a pretty good midway point. don't think it was realistic to ever expect them to go whole-hog vg version in a live setting

[Kalyx triaD]

He looks exactly like a guy in a furry suit.

Which is perfect for the wrong reasons.

[El Vaquero de Infierno]

It looks like a bag of wank.

I still want to go see Detective Pikachu, though.

[McLegend]

I thought this was going to be a lot worse based on the reaction yesterday.

[Tom Guycott]

He looks exactly like a guy in a furry suit.

Which is perfect for the wrong reasons.

I saw a post earlier that said something to the effect of "When DeviantArt has better artwork than the studio, your movie may be in trouble"

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Ben Schwartz as Sonic. I will watch it when it's out on dvd.

:y::y::y::y:

JEAN RALLPHHIOOOOO!

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Robotnick is supposed to be a fat-fuck. Looks like he has cancer with Carrey.

[Seanny One Ball]

If I was casting for Robotnic I doubt I could find better than John Ratzenberger CGI'd to be the width of a house.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

This is a little known fact, I'LL GET THAT HEDGEHOG!

[Lucky]

This looks stupid

[Emperor Smeat]

According to the film's director, Paramount & Sega are currently working on a redesign for Sonic due to the negative backlash generated from the film's debut trailer.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Thank you for the support. And the criticism. The message is loud and clear... you aren't happy with the design &amp; you want changes. It's going to happen. Everyone at Paramount &amp; Sega are fully committed to making this character the BEST he can be... <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/sonicmovie?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#sonicmovie</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/gottafixfast?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#gottafixfast</a> ��✌️</p>&mdash; Jeff Fowler (@fowltown) <a href="https://twitter.com/fowltown/status/1124056098925944832?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 2, 2019</a></blockquote>
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[Damian Rey 2.0]

Just make him look like the Photoshop done above that looks just like the fucking game. It's not that hard. Part of the detective Pikachu charm is that the Pokemon look just fucking like the anime, except 3d. They don't need to try and redesign/humanize sonic the hedgehog.

[Droford]

they should redo the whole movie.

[Droford]

Im more outrsged that Jim Carrey looks nothing like Robotnik anyway

[Kalyx triaD]

There is now backlash against the backlash because something something crunch time.

[Droford]

Well the poor CGI workers are gonna have to work 20 hours a day to get the movie out on time. Of course they could just ya know..delay it..but that'd be too much trouble

[Damian Rey 2.0]

They could've saved time by just making him look like sonic to begin with

[Seanny One Ball]

Now you tell me!

[mitchables]

Im more outrsged that Jim Carrey looks nothing like Robotnik anyway

it's his 'origin story' look

he looks more like robotnik by the end of the film (following whatever explosion makes him look like this - shot seems like a post-credits thing tbh but is probably close to the finish either way)

https://cdn.empireonline.com/jpg/70/0/0/640/480/aspectfit/0/0/0/0/0/0/c/articles/5cc850fc133d503e3a495008/sonic-2.jpg

looks like he's in mushroom hill zone there too tbh

still pretty skinny though

[Seanny One Ball]

Egg man

[Droford]

https://i.redd.it/9yqz18aqavw21.jpg

took me a sec to realize it was fake

[Kalyx triaD]

The fact that she's not in the trailer nor is an existing character wasn't clues enough?

[penak]

not interestinghttps://juragan.club/assets/5/o.png

[Emperor Smeat]

Film got delayed till February 14, 2020 and official reason due to them needing more time to rework Sonic's design.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Taking a little more time to make Sonic just right.<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/novfxartistswereharmedinthemakingofthismovie?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#novfxartistswereharmedinthemakingofthismovie</a> <a href="https://t.co/gxhu9lhU76">pic.twitter.com/gxhu9lhU76</a></p>&mdash; Jeff Fowler (@fowltown) <a href="https://twitter.com/fowltown/status/1131937685700980736?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 24, 2019</a></blockquote>
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[Kalyx triaD]

It'll be tragic when they go thru the trouble and it still bombs.

[Seanny One Ball]

It'll be expensive

[Damian Rey 2.0]

They'll give themselves a better shot if they, you know, make him look like Sonic.

[RP]

It works out great for the makers of this movie because the amount of publicity it has received paired with the delay due to the fixture of the title character, will probably elicit even more ticket sales than it originally would have. Kinda brilliant, intentionally or not.

[Frank Drebin]

Worked out great for the Fantastic Four movie.

[Droford]

perfect movie to go see on valentines day

It'll get beat by the Kingsman movie though

[Seanny One Ball]

Another Kingsman? I dunno if anybody really wants that after the horrendous second film.

[Lock Jaw]

I enjoyed the second film for the most part. Nowhere near as good as the first, but I still had a big smile on my face for some of the fights.

[Seanny One Ball]

I lost my smile when Colin Firth appeared on the billboards. What a stupid way to burn an audience.

It was a bad film with none of the disarming charm of the first.

[Droford]

Another Kingsman? I dunno if anybody really wants that after the horrendous second film.

It's a prequel based in I think WW2

[Lock Jaw]

They are making another one too though

[Fignuts]

Another Kingsman? I dunno if anybody really wants that after the horrendous second film.

I doubt the majority reviles it as much as you.

[Seanny One Ball]

The majority can endure so much more than the individual.

I really hated it though. You can blame the studio for that, sticking spoilers in the trailer and posters. Dicks.

[Emperor Smeat]

Paramount recently released a new trailer showcasing Sonic's redesigned look.

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Also released a new official poster for the film:
https://www.destructoid.com/ul/572234-sonic-the-hedgehog-movie-redesign-revealed-in-brand-new-trailer/sonic%20movie%20new%20poster%202-noscale.jpg

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Looks much better. Movie still looks trash, tho.

[mitchables]

feels v bleak that a group of animators were forced to crunch out an entire do-over of the title character because barely functional adults lost their minds over a children's movie

[rez]

I'm glad they fixed it..def feel bad for the crew that had to crunch time to fix it but ehhh it had to be done unless they wanted to go down as a worse movie than the Mario Bros (which I love to this day).

[Lock Jaw]

feels v bleak that a group of animators were forced to crunch out an entire do-over of the title character because barely functional adults lost their minds over a children's movie

Most of whom will still not go see the movie anyways

[mitchables]

Most of whom will still not go see the movie anyways

this is true. although, i dunno, i get the feeling some of them feel oddly honour-bound to go now - they demanded the change, and they actually got it, so there's this weird through-line on social media of "giving back" to the crew because "they listened" now

it is... honestly insane

[mitchables]

i mean objectively sonic looks heaps better now but i just can't see how it would be worth the effort, time or money to redo it

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Now there is a buzz about the movie. Fixing it and announcing it publically was a good idea.

[Kalyx triaD]

No matter if it's good or bad, more people will watch than before the change.

[Fignuts]

feels v bleak that a group of animators were forced to crunch out an entire do-over of the title character because barely functional adults lost their minds over a children's movie

https://i.imgur.com/C9ZrxXA.png

[Emperor Smeat]

Apparently Paramount had hired the lead artist of Sonic Mania to be in charge of their redesign efforts for this film.

Yesterday, Paramount pulled back the veil on the new-look Sonic the Hedgehog after the first design went over as well as a lead balloon. The redesign was met with near-universal approval, most everyone agreeing that this is a more acceptable version of Sonic. Recently, long-time Sonic artist Tyson Hesse confirmed that he was brought in to "lead the design" on the modified Blue Blur.

Hesse has a lot of experience with illustrating Sonic. Apart from serving as director and lead animator for the Sonic Mania opening cinematic, he also created the promotional mini-series Sonic Mania Adventures. Additionally, Hesse has contributed as an artist on the Sonic the Hedgehog comic series.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Honored to have been brought in to lead the design on the new Movie Sonic. Working with Jeff and the modelers, riggers, texture/fur artists and animators in LA, London, and Vancouver was a thrill I'll never forget. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/SonicMovie?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#SonicMovie</a> <a href="https://t.co/HhcVIxAhXB">pic.twitter.com/HhcVIxAhXB</a></p>&mdash; Tyson Hesse (@tyson_hesse) <a href="https://twitter.com/tyson_hesse/status/1194331183351357440?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 12, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Emperor Smeat]

According to a report from Indiewire, Sonic's redesign is rumored to have cost Paramount around $5 million.

Also rumored that a lot less work was needed to fix the film due to only a few of the CGI scenes with Sonic were completed by the time of the original trailer's release.

A source close to the “Sonic the Hedgehog” production estimates the character redesign cost Paramount less than $5 million. The source says VFX work on the film was far from completed by the time the decision was made to delay the film and redesign Sonic. The only Sonic VFX that were fully completed were reportedly the ones seen in the first trailer, which dropped online April 30. Most of the VFX were not finished, so redesigning Sonic proved not to be as outrageously expensive as it would have been had all of the film’s VFX been done. The source tells IndieWire that any rumor alleging the redesign made the “Sonic” VFX team suffer is far from true.

https://www.indiewire.com/2019/11/sonic-redesign-cost-paramount-five-million-1202190493/

[RaginRonic]

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The Sonic the Hedgehog franchise in North America hasn't been relevant since this televised version of it aired on ABC from Sept. 18, 1993 to June 3, 1995.

I have no reason to believe that this movie will change that.

If it does, it'll be a fucking miracle.

And I know what I'm talking about on this shit.

= P

[Seanny One Ball]

According to a report from Indiewire, Sonic's redesign is rumored to have cost Paramount around $5 million.

Also rumored that a lot less work was needed to fix the film due to only a few of the CGI scenes with Sonic were completed by the time of the original trailer's release.



https://www.indiewire.com/2019/11/sonic-redesign-cost-paramount-five-million-1202190493/


It didn't do Shrek any harm

[rez]

Nick Offerman would have been a cool Doctor Robotnik. Carrey could have been a robot henchman or some shit.

[Ruien]

Really glad this movie is doing well.