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Mr. Nerfect
12-10-2018, 10:00 PM
Fandago should have won IC title instead of Curtis Axel. For some reason, WWE were really high on Axel during that point even though he wasn't anything special.

I guess getting good reviews from Rock and Brock counts for something? It is really weird, because the push came out of nowhere and it's clear they had no clue what to do with him. Triple H beating himself didn't really help Axel get out the gate. He's found his niche as the weird old dude that hangs around the lower-card.

I thought for ages he was going to get cut when the push failed, but I think he's landed pretty safely.

slik
12-10-2018, 10:01 PM
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Franco Vazquez
12-10-2018, 10:01 PM
Who's titties you guys talkin about?

KIRA
12-10-2018, 10:01 PM
Alexa Bliss has become the new Rey Mysterio to me that is to say I don't like her and I don't hate her but I instantly change the channel when she shows up

Dark One
12-10-2018, 10:01 PM
NIA SHOOTS HARD ON CONCUSSIONS

rez
12-10-2018, 10:02 PM
You don't talk trash..you just injure every woman you get in the ring with

Droford
12-10-2018, 10:02 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Bring me all the bitches that want some. <a href="https://t.co/A1EhZBHqbd">pic.twitter.com/A1EhZBHqbd</a></p>&mdash; The Man (@BeckyLynchWWE) <a href="https://twitter.com/BeckyLynchWWE/status/1071936505227014144?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 10, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Mr. Nerfect
12-10-2018, 10:02 PM
Zack Ryder's been on the main roster for 11 years now.

Franco Vazquez
12-10-2018, 10:03 PM
Alexa Bliss has become the new Rey Mysterio to me that is to say I don't like her and I don't hate her but I instantly change the channel when she shows up

Well I do that everytime I see a woman on WWE programming.

Mr. Nerfect
12-10-2018, 10:03 PM
Kofi's coming up to 11 years too. But I guess you can't say The New Day is completely irrelevant. None of these guys feel like "veterans" though.

slik
12-10-2018, 10:03 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Undertakertruck?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Undertakertruck</a> c'mon <a href="https://twitter.com/WWE?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@WWE</a> what must I do share retweet till they respond send state to state shout out with the hashtag <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Undertakertruck?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Undertakertruck</a> let me know where ur at <a href="https://t.co/DjORxL2T1z">pic.twitter.com/DjORxL2T1z</a></p>&mdash; bill nelson (@billynelson3687) <a href="https://twitter.com/billynelson3687/status/1055157855853207554?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 24, 2018</a></blockquote>
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KIRA
12-10-2018, 10:03 PM
I guess getting good reviews from Rock and Brock counts for something? It is really weird, because the push came out of nowhere and it's clear they had no clue what to do with him. Triple H beating himself didn't really help Axel get out the gate. He's found his niche as the weird old dude that hangs around the lower-card.

I thought for ages he was going to get cut when the push failed, but I think he's landed pretty safely.

Axel and Slater going to be those two dudes to transition to Backstage when we stop seeing them on television

Triple A
12-10-2018, 10:04 PM
Why the fuck would they make her promo like 3 minutes straight of talking

Like they wrote a long ass paragraph of talking for Nia Jax

Dark One
12-10-2018, 10:04 PM
Going to need Nia to not scream like a dying badger again.

Thanks.

Franco Vazquez
12-10-2018, 10:04 PM
LOL why the fuck is she screaming?

Mr. Nerfect
12-10-2018, 10:04 PM
Lol, The Miz has been up there for 12 years.

KIRA
12-10-2018, 10:04 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Undertakertruck?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Undertakertruck</a> c'mon <a href="https://twitter.com/WWE?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@WWE</a> what must I do share retweet till they respond send state to state shout out with the hashtag <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Undertakertruck?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Undertakertruck</a> let me know where ur at <a href="https://t.co/DjORxL2T1z">pic.twitter.com/DjORxL2T1z</a></p>&mdash; bill nelson (@billynelson3687) <a href="https://twitter.com/billynelson3687/status/1055157855853207554?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 24, 2018</a></blockquote>
<script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> this has to be the most redneck thing you could ever do to your truck

Dark One
12-10-2018, 10:05 PM
Why the fuck would they make her promo like 3 minutes straight of talking

Like they wrote a long ass paragraph of talking for Nia Jax

You know how people always talk about how ECW and Paul Heyman's big advantage was their ability to accentuate the positives and hide the negatives? Like turning Taz into a murder machine where he didn't have to cut long promos or whatever.

I feel like WWE tries very hard to do the inverse of that.

Mr. Nerfect
12-10-2018, 10:05 PM
WWE are so desperate for heat that they are going to push genuinely terrible people so the fans boo.

Franco Vazquez
12-10-2018, 10:05 PM
Dolph has been on WWE programming for 14 years now.

Droford
12-10-2018, 10:05 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Undertakertruck?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Undertakertruck</a> c'mon <a href="https://twitter.com/WWE?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@WWE</a> what must I do share retweet till they respond send state to state shout out with the hashtag <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Undertakertruck?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Undertakertruck</a> let me know where ur at <a href="https://t.co/DjORxL2T1z">pic.twitter.com/DjORxL2T1z</a></p>&mdash; bill nelson (@billynelson3687) <a href="https://twitter.com/billynelson3687/status/1055157855853207554?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 24, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Maybe a hearse instead of a truck

Franco Vazquez
12-10-2018, 10:07 PM
Ronda is so fucking overrated man.

Mr. Nerfect
12-10-2018, 10:07 PM
Natalya has been main roster for 10 years; Alicia Fox 10 years; Tamina 8 years.

Dark One
12-10-2018, 10:07 PM
this has to be the most redneck anything you could ever do to your truck

You lack imagination. Not even close.

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/52/c0/63/52c063d4f92179aba9478ef4fd8f02f3.jpg

https://www.metroplexwraps.com/site/wp-content/uploads/IMG_0947-1-300x225.jpg

KIRA
12-10-2018, 10:07 PM
WWE pushing people who aren't going to be in the company Long over people who are there for the Long Haul Ember moon is great but she still playing second fiddle to Ronda Rousey it's sad

Mr. Nerfect
12-10-2018, 10:08 PM
Dolph has been on WWE programming for 14 years now.

Yeah, he was Kerwin's caddy in 2005 or something. The Miz goes back to Tough Enough in 2004, so you can say it's been even longer for him.

KIRA
12-10-2018, 10:08 PM
You lack imagination. Not even close.

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/52/c0/63/52c063d4f92179aba9478ef4fd8f02f3.jpg

https://www.metroplexwraps.com/site/wp-content/uploads/IMG_0947-1-300x225.jpg

Well shit. I will say it's missing a big f****** Eagle spray painted on the front in the middle of that Confederate flag

KIRA
12-10-2018, 10:08 PM
How long has R-Truth been with the company

Mr. Nerfect
12-10-2018, 10:09 PM
WWE has gotten into the habit of calling up people when there is no use for them.

Dark One
12-10-2018, 10:10 PM
How long has R-Truth been with the company

Some say he worked for Vince Sr., was cryogenically frozen, then thawed for GET ROWDY, then sent to purgatory before returning in 2008.

Mr. Nerfect
12-10-2018, 10:10 PM
How long has R-Truth been with the company

He debuted with them in 1999, but that stint only lasted a few years. But he's been back for 10 years now.

Franco Vazquez
12-10-2018, 10:10 PM
How long has R-Truth been with the company

10 years.

Dark One
12-10-2018, 10:10 PM
Can they trade Tamina to NXT Luxembourg

Mr. Nerfect
12-10-2018, 10:11 PM
R-Truth is 46 years old.

Franco Vazquez
12-10-2018, 10:12 PM
Is Alexa still dating Buddy Murphy?

Mr. Nerfect
12-10-2018, 10:12 PM
Has there been a wrestler that has worked for almost a decade on a main stage that is as bad as Tamina? Jinder Mahal is pretty bad, but he's more of a boring bad.

KIRA
12-10-2018, 10:12 PM
Some say he worked for Vince Sr., was cryogenically frozen, then thawed for GET ROWDY, then sent to purgatory before returning in 2008.

You laugh but I keep saying it dudes almost 50 years old and he has not aged at all

xrodmuc316
12-10-2018, 10:13 PM
The only Nexus member still wrestling in WWE.

That's not accurate.

Daniel Bryan
John Vega
Bray Wyatt
Curtis Axel

KIRA
12-10-2018, 10:13 PM
R-Truth is 46 years old.

SEE SEE !?

Franco Vazquez
12-10-2018, 10:13 PM
I think this RAW has been worse than last week's.

Dark One
12-10-2018, 10:15 PM
Tamina is like the textbook definition of looking like someone's "wrestling under water"

Dark One
12-10-2018, 10:15 PM
But she'd be a huge pickup for NXT Luxembourg.

Franco Vazquez
12-10-2018, 10:15 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Alexa Bliss should be the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/RAW?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#RAW</a> general manager.<br><br>She has everything in the arsenal to draw the reaction with a MIC in hand alongside being able to add to the show in a positive way in the GM Role. <a href="https://t.co/yNKyCJ8cMW">pic.twitter.com/yNKyCJ8cMW</a></p>&mdash; WWE (@WWE_NEWS_NBC) <a href="https://twitter.com/WWE_NEWS_NBC/status/1072328545542778880?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 11, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Mr. Nerfect
12-10-2018, 10:15 PM
McIntyre has an 11-year relationship with the company too. His first stint with them lasted 7 years. His Chosen One run started in 2009. He actually debuted on WWE TV in 2007 when he was with Dave Taylor and then moved to Raw where I'm sure he did some six-man tags with The Highlanders on Heat before moving back down to developmental.

RP
12-10-2018, 10:16 PM
Hey guys its ok. There is a rap battle happening on Smackdown tomorrow.

KIRA
12-10-2018, 10:16 PM
We're not counting main event guys are we how long has Randy Orton been with the company

Mr. Nerfect
12-10-2018, 10:16 PM
Can we just get rid of the GM role? Why the fuck do you need it?

Mr. Nerfect
12-10-2018, 10:17 PM
We're not counting main roster are we how long has Randy Orton been with the company

He debuted main roster in 2002.

slik
12-10-2018, 10:18 PM
Why haven't we seen any promos for LARS tonight?

Mr. Nerfect
12-10-2018, 10:18 PM
Cesaro has been up there for 6 years. :(

KIRA
12-10-2018, 10:18 PM
Can we just get rid of the GM role? Why the fuck do you need it?

They were never able to wean themselves off of the abuse of authority figure role after it took off with Vince and Stone Cold

Mr. Nerfect
12-10-2018, 10:19 PM
Why haven't we seen any promos for LARS tonight?

It really wouldn't surprise me if he helps Baron Corbin win the IC Title or something. But it also wouldn't surprise me if plans changed or they fired him for being scum.

KIRA
12-10-2018, 10:20 PM
Sheamus has been around at least since 2006 I think

xrodmuc316
12-10-2018, 10:20 PM
We're not counting main event guys are we how long has Randy Orton been with the company

Jeff Hardy had his first televised match for WWE in 1994.

Mr. Nerfect
12-10-2018, 10:20 PM
They were never able to wean themselves off of the abuse of authority figure role after it took off with Vince and Stone Cold

They have a Chairman, a COO, two Commissioners and six GMs in their canon. Even within the context of just one show -- why do they need to have three fucking authority figures on Raw? Each of the televised shows started with two. It goes past redundancy. It's getting bogged down in this hierarchical drama that no one cares about.

Franco Vazquez
12-10-2018, 10:21 PM
So that surgery finally showing its effects.

Mr. Nerfect
12-10-2018, 10:21 PM
Sheamus got signed to developmental in 2006, but he only made his official main roster debut with ECW in 2009.

Droford
12-10-2018, 10:21 PM
Harold Baines gets mentioned on Raw..yay

slik
12-10-2018, 10:22 PM
No LARS = NO RATINGS


SAD!!

KIRA
12-10-2018, 10:23 PM
Big Show showed up 1999

Franco Vazquez
12-10-2018, 10:23 PM
I heard that they want Lars to debut against LHP in Lucha House Rules.

Dark One
12-10-2018, 10:24 PM
Guitar on a Ladder match? We have truly entered Russo territory.

Droford
12-10-2018, 10:24 PM
Elias is Jeff Jarrett

Mr. Nerfect
12-10-2018, 10:25 PM
Tyler Breeze has been with them for 8 years including developmental. Sin Cara fucking 9. He's been main roster since 2011. Primo has been up there for a decade. Fandango entered developmental in 2006.

GD
12-10-2018, 10:25 PM
Doesn't Lashley have a fear of heights?

Droford
12-10-2018, 10:25 PM
Called it lol

slik
12-10-2018, 10:25 PM
I see almost every match at TLC is from RAW.

Sigh.

Mr. Nerfect
12-10-2018, 10:25 PM
Elias is Jeff Jarrett

I would prefer Big Daddy.

KIRA
12-10-2018, 10:26 PM
Is it just in a wrestling companies DNA to go all TNA booking when it's going downhill

GD
12-10-2018, 10:26 PM
Jeff Jarrett should officiate that match.

Droford
12-10-2018, 10:26 PM
Ambrose has to save his intercontinental title shot

Mr. Nerfect
12-10-2018, 10:26 PM
I see almost every match at TLC is from RAW.

Sigh.

SmackDown is going to have the Women's Title, the Tag Titles, the WWE Title, probably the US Title with Nakamura vs. Rusev, Joe vs. Jeff, Randy vs. Rey and maybe something between Mandy and Sonya.

KIRA
12-10-2018, 10:27 PM
Tyler Breeze has been with them for 8 years including developmental. Sin Cara fucking 9. He's been main roster since 2011. Primo has been up there for a decade. Fandango entered developmental in 2006.

Hunicara is very unappreciated and underrated in his time

Mr. Nerfect
12-10-2018, 10:27 PM
Really wanted Jeff Jarrett to show up post-Mania and point out what a shitty GM Angle is and try and take his job like he took his wife.

Droford
12-10-2018, 10:28 PM
Jeff Jarrett should officiate that match.

https://pbs-twimg-com.cdn.ampproject.org/i/s/pbs.twimg.com/media/Dt1-e2pW4AEq2Vu.jpg

He's SmackDown buddy

Mr. Nerfect
12-10-2018, 10:28 PM
Hunicara is very unappreciated and underrated in his time

I really like him. I was super-into him stealing Sin Cara's identity. Then he became a caricature.

Droford
12-10-2018, 10:29 PM
SmackDown is going to have the Women's Title, the Tag Titles, the WWE Title, probably the US Title with Nakamura vs. Rusev, Joe vs. Jeff, Randy vs. Rey and maybe something between Mandy and Sonya.

There's already 11 matches and only 3 from sd

Franco Vazquez
12-10-2018, 10:29 PM
How long Kassius been in the developmental?

Mr. Nerfect
12-10-2018, 10:29 PM
There's already 11 matches and only 3 from sd

Well add those other four and you'll have 15.

Droford
12-10-2018, 10:30 PM
Lars is Lurking now

slik
12-10-2018, 10:30 PM
There is LARS!

Mr. Nerfect
12-10-2018, 10:30 PM
How long Kassius been in the developmental?

His first run was 2011-2013 and he returned in 2016. He's spent about 4 years with them.

xrodmuc316
12-10-2018, 10:31 PM
How long Kassius been in the developmental?

This time I think around 2 years.

KIRA
12-10-2018, 10:31 PM
It's pretty clear at this point the Vince McMahon does not want to leave a legacy for his son-in-law and daughter to build on he's going to leave them an empty pathetic shell of a company by the time he dies

Mr. Nerfect
12-10-2018, 10:32 PM
For comparison, Eddie Guerrero signed with WWE in 2000, was fired by 2001, came back in 2002 and died in 2005. He was there about 5 years.

Droford
12-10-2018, 10:32 PM
This is actually getting 20 min

Mr. Nerfect
12-10-2018, 10:33 PM
It's pretty clear at this point the Vince McMahon does not want to leave a legacy for his son-in-law and daughter to build on he's going to leave them an empty pathetic shell of a company by the time he dies

I can really see them selling to Disney once these TV contracts run through. I can see WWE Network amalgamating with their streaming service.

Droford
12-10-2018, 10:33 PM
Corbin wins and they combine Corbin/Strowman and Ambrose/Rollins

Then it starts as a 3 way and Strowman comes down at the end to cist Corbin the match. He doesn't win and isn't the GM

RP
12-10-2018, 10:33 PM
There is 100% chance Ambrose interfere in this match, gets fought off and Slater turns on Corbin to make the fast 3 count.

End the show now.

DAMN iNATOR
12-10-2018, 10:34 PM
...Because if there's one thing a TLC match needs, it's a ref. :roll:

Mr. Nerfect
12-10-2018, 10:35 PM
Do TLC Matches still require you to climb a ladder, or are they pinfall/submission like the video games now?

DAMN iNATOR
12-10-2018, 10:36 PM
There is 100% chance Ambrose interfere in this match, gets fought off and Slater turns on Corbin to make the fast 3 count.

End the show now.

It's a TLC match, dude. There is no 3 count. I don't even know why Slater is out there.

Droford
12-10-2018, 10:36 PM
Slater's gonna climb the ladder for Corbin and give him the title

Sort of worked for Carmella

RP
12-10-2018, 10:36 PM
Do TLC Matches still require you to climb a ladder, or are they pinfall/submission like the video games now?

I really dont even know anymore. The WWE has no fucking clue and now i have no fucking clue.

DAMN iNATOR
12-10-2018, 10:37 PM
Do TLC Matches still require you to climb a ladder, or are they pinfall/submission like the video games now?

Still need to climb and retrieve.

slik
12-10-2018, 10:37 PM
I could see LARS vs CENA at WM35 tbh

Mr. Nerfect
12-10-2018, 10:37 PM
Lol, is Heath Slater legitimately involved in a Raw main event?

GD
12-10-2018, 10:37 PM
Corey just told Renee to shut up

RP
12-10-2018, 10:37 PM
It's a TLC match, dude. There is no 3 count. I don't even know why Slater is out there.

I dont either. That's why I think a 3 count is possible. I dont think the WWE knows. If this were on a sportsbook, I would put money down on a 3 count just because it's the WWE.

Mr. Nerfect
12-10-2018, 10:38 PM
When things get tough, time to bring out the big guns!

Droford
12-10-2018, 10:38 PM
Lol, is Heath Slater legitimately involved in a Raw main event?

Hrs just one ref

Mr. Nerfect
12-10-2018, 10:38 PM
I dont either. That's why I think a 3 count is possible. I dont think the WWE knows. If this were on a sportsbook, I would put money down on a 3 count just because it's the WWE.

It's Vince Russo WWE mode -- Seth will climb the ladder and Slater will knock him off and Corbin will pin him and Slater will just count.

Droford
12-10-2018, 10:39 PM
Football might end before RAW

Mr. Nerfect
12-10-2018, 10:39 PM
Slater vs. Rollins at Mania 35, babay!!

DAMN iNATOR
12-10-2018, 10:39 PM
I dont either. That's why I think a 3 count is possible. I dont think the WWE knows. If this were on a sportsbook, I would put money down on a 3 count just because it's the WWE.

There's no 3 count because they literally showed the IC belt suspended above the middle of the ring, as per usual. You must have a worse memory than a fucking goldfish.

Mr. Nerfect
12-10-2018, 10:40 PM
The rules are already broken, just have Slater climb and declare himself the new IC Champion.

Mr. Nerfect
12-10-2018, 10:40 PM
There's no 3 count because they literally showed the IC belt suspended above the middle of the ring, as per usual. You must have a worse memory than a fucking goldfish.

Dude, it's WWE. They've got Lucha House Party rules. Stop leaning on logic like it means anything. This could end in a countout.

slik
12-10-2018, 10:41 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Do you want to see Great Khali return to WWE and challenge Brock Lesnar?<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WWE?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WWE</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/RAW?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#RAW</a></p>&mdash; WWE Talking Points (@WWETalkingPoint) <a href="https://twitter.com/WWETalkingPoint/status/1072335352340406272?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 11, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Mr. Nerfect
12-10-2018, 10:41 PM
What's weird is that WWE seem to actually genuinely care, to some degree, that their show sucks. This is how they battle it. Interesting.

DAMN iNATOR
12-10-2018, 10:41 PM
Hrs just one ref

🎶"Call me the one-ref baaaaaand!"🎶

Droford
12-10-2018, 10:41 PM
Corbin wins and they combine Corbin/Strowman and Ambrose/Rollins

Then it starts as a 3 way and Strowman comes down at the end to cist Corbin the match. He doesn't win and isn't the GM

I now remember hearing the rumor Corbin/Strowman was turning into a multi man match so.. definitely happening

Mr. Nerfect
12-10-2018, 10:41 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Do you want to see Great Khali return to WWE and challenge Brock Lesnar?<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WWE?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WWE</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/RAW?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#RAW</a></p>&mdash; WWE Talking Points (@WWETalkingPoint) <a href="https://twitter.com/WWETalkingPoint/status/1072335352340406272?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 11, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Good lord, is this actually from them?

slik
12-10-2018, 10:42 PM
Renee and Corey are really annoying

KIRA
12-10-2018, 10:43 PM
only the WWE could make me yawn at the thought of a TCL match on free tv

DAMN iNATOR
12-10-2018, 10:44 PM
Dude, it's WWE. They've got Lucha House Party rules. Stop leaning on logic like it means anything. This could end in a countout.

And I could end the world by sneezing too hard. Stop trying to be a cynical edgy contrarian. It shows you for the desperate for attention she'll of a poster you've become. Not a good look on you at all, bro.

Mr. Nerfect
12-10-2018, 10:44 PM
If WWE gets desperate enough, I can see them doing a Raw/NXT invasion angle. I don't know why. It's just this hunch I've got. Vince and his guys against Triple H and his guys. All pretenses and feuds will be dropped in WWE style and you'll get Aleister Black, Johnny Gargano, Tommaso Ciampa, Velveteen Dream, EC3 and The Undisputed Era all on Raw. An attempt to hot-shot.

Mr. Nerfect
12-10-2018, 10:45 PM
And I could end the world by sneezing to hard. Stop trying to be a cynical edgy contrarian. It shows you for the desperate for attention she'll of a poster you've become. Not a good look on you at all, bro.

Lol, I'm not a contrarian or edgy. Cynical, defs. But I don't think there is anyone on here that would put it past WWE to fuck up their own rules, you pedantic muppet.

KIRA
12-10-2018, 10:45 PM
What's weird is that WWE seem to actually genuinely care, to some degree, that their show sucks. This is how they battle it. Interesting.

By giving us Natalia cutting a promo and having Baron Corbin wrestling the main event and having Nia JAX on the show at all

Mr. Nerfect
12-10-2018, 10:46 PM
As I said: Lucha House Party rules, you cunt. The bend the rules to fit what they want to do, not vice versa. That's not contrarian, that's you not understanding how this company fucking operates.

Mr. Nerfect
12-10-2018, 10:46 PM
I hope the rating is even lower.

slik
12-10-2018, 10:47 PM
If you think about the current roster this main-event is the top face on RAW vs the top heel on RAW

Mr. Nerfect
12-10-2018, 10:48 PM
And I can see them having Brock defend the Universal Title on a Raw at some point.

Dark One
12-10-2018, 10:48 PM
Good lord, is this actually from them?

https://i.imgur.com/9QQLYmd.gif

GD
12-10-2018, 10:49 PM
With Reigns, Owens, and Zayn out of action, wouldn't it be wise to reintroduce the Cruiserweights on Monday Night RAW and let them have stellar in-ring bouts like they do on 205?

Mr. Nerfect
12-10-2018, 10:49 PM
If you think about the current roster this main-event is the top face on RAW vs the top heel on RAW

I was thinking the other day just how weird it feels to have a Raw where the top guys are the top guys that are there right now. Seth Rollins and Braun Strowman as the babyfaces and Dean Ambrose, Drew McIntyre, Baron Corbin and Bobby Lashley as the heels.

It feels very...not random. What's the word I'm looking for? It feels very "well, that's what it is."

Mr. Nerfect
12-10-2018, 10:50 PM
With Reigns, Owens, and Zayn out of action, wouldn't it be wise to reintroduce the Cruiserweights on Monday Night RAW and let them have stellar in-ring bouts like they do on 205?

The goal is to make people care.

KIRA
12-10-2018, 10:50 PM
If you think about the current roster this main-event is the top face on RAW vs the top heel on RAW

In one night Seth Rollins had a banger showing on Raw and instead of capitalizing on that they hitched Roman Reigns to his wagon which effectively brought him down and now that Roman is gone it's going to be hard to build him up into the man like he was that night going forward.

Mr. Nerfect
12-10-2018, 10:50 PM
https://i.imgur.com/9QQLYmd.gif

?

Mr. Nerfect
12-10-2018, 10:50 PM
Seth is fine and all, but I don't think he's the star they need him to be right now.

Mr. Nerfect
12-10-2018, 10:51 PM
Shit, his long WWE Title reign was over three years ago now.

KIRA
12-10-2018, 10:51 PM
Seth is fine and all, but I don't think he's the star they need him to be right now.

He could have been and they f****** missed it

They did something similar to Dolph Ziggler after he was coming off Survivor Series white hot

DAMN iNATOR
12-10-2018, 10:51 PM
Lol, I'm not a contrarian or edgy. Cynical, defs. But I don't think there is anyone on here that would put it past WWE to fuck up their own rules, you pedantic muppet.

*Uses big words to impress people on an internet wrestling message board*

http://gif-finder.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/CM-Punk-Are-you-kidding-me.gif

It's been a good run, Noid, but it's finally time for you to hang up the wireless keyboard for good.

Mr. Nerfect
12-10-2018, 10:53 PM
*Uses big words to impress people on an internet wrestling message board*

http://gif-finder.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/CM-Punk-Are-you-kidding-me.gif

It's been a good run, Noid, but it's finally time for you to hang up the wireless keyboard for good.

1. Where's the big word?

2. Who the fuck hangs up a keyboard?

3. You can't even trash talk over the internet effectively, you cunt.

KIRA
12-10-2018, 10:53 PM
That clothesline might be the one thing I like about Baron Corbin and since he missed it I don't have too much of a reason to care anymore

GD
12-10-2018, 10:54 PM
The goal is to make people care.

It wouldn't hurt to do a competitive tag team exhibition match with some high spots.

Mr. Nerfect
12-10-2018, 10:54 PM
Yeah, I'm trying to impress people. That's why I blocked Dale and make fun of marks like Simple Fan. Idiot. I piss on you.

KIRA
12-10-2018, 10:55 PM
It's kind of sad to see Vince hide behind wrestlers and announcers whenever he wants to get his opinions out there or in this case not take the blame for something

slik
12-10-2018, 10:55 PM
good table spot

GD
12-10-2018, 10:55 PM
Why do suicide dives if they look absolutely terrible?

Mr. Nerfect
12-10-2018, 10:55 PM
It wouldn't hurt to do a competitive tag team exhibition match with some high spots.

They did that. It sucked. No one cares about the jabronis on the purple C-show except the hardest of the hardcores.

Franco Vazquez
12-10-2018, 10:55 PM
Tbh RAW has been unlucky with injuries and other issues. Sami, KO, Reigns all of them are out for one reason or another.

Mr. Nerfect
12-10-2018, 10:56 PM
Why do suicide dives if they look absolutely terrible?

Because everyone is programmed to think that dives are cool and they need to do one. Everyone wrestles the same and it's a large part of why people tune out, but everyone solely wants to blame creative.

KIRA
12-10-2018, 10:56 PM
did the crowd really just try to start up a this is awesome chant that died on their lips seemingly?

Droford
12-10-2018, 10:56 PM
Jesus man

Mr. Nerfect
12-10-2018, 10:57 PM
It's kind of sad to see Vince hide behind wrestlers and announcers whenever he wants to get his opinions out there or in this case not take the blame for something

Vince's voice reverberates through all the verbiage on this show. Watch with someone that doesn't usually watch and they pick it up within a minute and the word "heinous" is used by three different people in the space of two segments.

That clothesline might be the one thing I like about Baron Corbin and since he missed it I don't have too much of a reason to care anymore

An actual clothesline found in a backyard has more charisma than Corbin.

Mr. Nerfect
12-10-2018, 10:58 PM
did the crowd really just try to start up a this is awesome chant that died on their lips seemingly?

Probably. The crowd are programmed drones too.

Franco Vazquez
12-10-2018, 10:58 PM
Heath Slater is one of the worst things in WWE right now.

Mr. Nerfect
12-10-2018, 10:59 PM
Come on, DAMN iNATOR. Take another crack. I want to smack you down again, you bitch.

KIRA
12-10-2018, 10:59 PM
Heath Slater is one of the worst things in WWE right now.

That will never be true no matter how horrible this company gets

Mr. Nerfect
12-10-2018, 10:59 PM
Heath Slater is one of the worst things in WWE right now.

Definitive proof that you are not Gertner.

Triple A
12-10-2018, 10:59 PM
This is pretty good

Mr. Nerfect
12-10-2018, 11:00 PM
This is so weird. Like, WWE doesn't usually care if they suck. They actively point it out then don't change anything. But they went with turning it into an angle, which suggests that they understand their perception with fans, but their answer is to focus on Corbin and Slater.

Mr. Nerfect
12-10-2018, 11:01 PM
And Nattie. Can't forget old Farting Nat.

slik
12-10-2018, 11:01 PM
Good main-event imo

Mr. Nerfect
12-10-2018, 11:02 PM
Can't even be bothered to stream it, lol.

Mr. Nerfect
12-10-2018, 11:04 PM
Gable apparently wearing trunks is probably the most exciting development.

Mr. Nerfect
12-10-2018, 11:05 PM
Good look for him, actually. He's in shape, so why not show it off? I can see this helping change perception of him too.

Mr. Nerfect
12-10-2018, 11:06 PM
Who won the main event?

Mr. Nerfect
12-10-2018, 11:07 PM
Has this show put everyone to bed?

slik
12-10-2018, 11:10 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Given the number of empty seats and the fans rooting against the management, I could be at Raw or a football game in Carson <a href="https://t.co/IubN1A0POz">pic.twitter.com/IubN1A0POz</a></p>&mdash; chris, wrestling fan (@sportsbrain) <a href="https://twitter.com/sportsbrain/status/1072299600671838209?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 11, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Mr. Nerfect
12-10-2018, 11:12 PM
Hahaha. I always get a laugh out of that. Like, wrestlers cutting their promos looking into empty seats and then believing the company line of they're doing awesome.

slik
12-10-2018, 11:14 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">You know the arena is half empty when the set is in the corner of the screen. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/RAW?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#RAW</a> <a href="https://t.co/MFNgkV2d2e">pic.twitter.com/MFNgkV2d2e</a></p>&mdash; KingSchmidt (@realschmidtking) <a href="https://twitter.com/realschmidtking/status/1072310550317674497?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 11, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Mr. Nerfect
12-10-2018, 11:16 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">You know the arena is half empty when the set is in the corner of the screen. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/RAW?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#RAW</a> <a href="https://t.co/MFNgkV2d2e">pic.twitter.com/MFNgkV2d2e</a></p>&mdash; KingSchmidt (@realschmidtking) <a href="https://twitter.com/realschmidtking/status/1072310550317674497?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 11, 2018</a></blockquote>
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:lol:

Mr. Nerfect
12-10-2018, 11:17 PM
Eh, they've got no one to blame but themselves.

slik
12-10-2018, 11:23 PM
It's a combo of:


Big Names missing in action

Product being 'really bad' overall for a long period of time

Ticket prices being too expensive for many, people w/ kids in particular.

Mr. Nerfect
12-10-2018, 11:36 PM
It's a combo of:


Big Names missing in action

Product being 'really bad' overall for a long period of time

Ticket prices being too expensive for many, people w/ kids in particular.

It sucked before the big names disappeared. Like, I do appreciate Cena, but it's not like if him and Reigns were back things would be good. The ticket prices need to be high because no one is going, so you've got to milk what you can get.

Jordan
12-10-2018, 11:36 PM
It's 3 hours man. We have NOTHING to look forward to. We are SPOILED. I used to DROOL over 1 hour of MONDAY NIGHT RAW per week. Then two hours was a gift from heaven. But now it's just too damn much. I'd like to watch Smackdown and NXT as well but I can only find time to sometimes watch Raw and all of the PPV's or Takerovers. I would like to watch more but it sucks and its too long and not worth it.

Jordan
12-10-2018, 11:37 PM
Also for me personally I didn't have access to UPN til like 2002 so Smackdown never became a habit for me.

Jordan
12-10-2018, 11:38 PM
Also I am drunk and have no idea what happened on Raw except Gable won the tag titles I think which is good but I know Raw this time of year is the shits.

Jordan
12-10-2018, 11:40 PM
I feel like WWE has lost all of the mystique. There used to be so much unknown but the internet has slowly strangled the whole industry.

GD
12-10-2018, 11:44 PM
Yeah, I'm trying to impress people. That's why I blocked Dale and make fun of marks like Simple Fan. Idiot. I piss on you.

Come on, DAMN iNATOR. Take another crack. I want to smack you down again, you bitch.

Come on, Noid. DAMN iNATOR is harmless.

Gable apparently wearing trunks is probably the most exciting development.

It was :y:

slik
12-10-2018, 11:47 PM
Also I am drunk and have no idea what happened on Raw except Gable won the tag titles I think which is good but I know Raw this time of year is the shits.

main-event was good, you might dig it

Mr. Nerfect
12-11-2018, 12:09 AM
It's 3 hours man. We have NOTHING to look forward to. We are SPOILED. I used to DROOL over 1 hour of MONDAY NIGHT RAW per week. Then two hours was a gift from heaven. But now it's just too damn much. I'd like to watch Smackdown and NXT as well but I can only find time to sometimes watch Raw and all of the PPV's or Takerovers. I would like to watch more but it sucks and its too long and not worth it.

3 hours does not help, but if it goes back to 2 it's still going to suck. It's not like there is a good 2 hours sprinkled in there but it gets stretched out to 3.

Come on, Noid. DAMN iNATOR is harmless.

Of course he's harmless, but it doesn't change him acting like an asshole and like he's above it. Imagine acting as if the WWE makes sense and then calling others names.

Cool King
12-11-2018, 04:21 PM
Raw was pretty much the same as last week and the week before and maybe the week before that.

I really don't watch Raw now and the only reason I record it and watch it is purely out of habit and also a tiny bit of feeling like if I miss an episode, then that would be the episode where something remotely entertaining and good happens but I'm always wrong.

The only matches I watched were the two involving Heath Slater as this whole "Referee Heath Slater" thing was the only thing that I had a shred of interest in.

To be fair, it is kinda different (and I like different). There's a new face appearing among the usual faces on Raw and it's Slater.

Also, I like Slater.

He's also being forced to be a referee which is also different from what we've been getting so far, so I decided to watch it and see where it went.

I was disappointed.

I don't get why Vince & Co. thought it would be a good idea to have Slater knock Rollins off the ladder and then eat a superkick from Rollins.

They actually managed to make people feel bad for Slater and he was a sympathetic character that could have easily have led to him being a popular face once he defied Corbin in some way or stood up to Lashley & McIntyre but no, instead, we get Slater screwing over a face and the face laying him out for doing so, much the great cheers of the crowd.

That moment just showed you that all the sympathy for Slater had gone.

We know that "Slater has no choice" and is doing it "because he has a family" but those excuses are just terrible, paper thin and cliché as all hell.

Micheal Cole's attempts at trying to make us feel sorry for Slater was just poor, as Cole himself didn't even sound like he felt sorry for Slater. Cole just sounded like his usual robotic self, yelling, reading lines and saying whatever is fed into his ear.

And don't even get me started on Renee at the announce table.

I can only hope that next week we see Corbin do something to Slater for "ruining his chances at becoming Intercontinental Champion" and not Slater either attacking or costing Rollins a match because of what happened this week and cementing Slater as a heel in the process.

Because that's clearly what Raw needs, more heels.

Cool King
12-11-2018, 04:21 PM
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My initial thought was that it looked exactly like a glitch from the WWE games.

XL
12-11-2018, 06:06 PM
If WWE gets desperate enough, I can see them doing a Raw/NXT invasion angle. I don't know why. It's just this hunch I've got. Vince and his guys against Triple H and his guys. All pretenses and feuds will be dropped in WWE style and you'll get Aleister Black, Johnny Gargano, Tommaso Ciampa, Velveteen Dream, EC3 and The Undisputed Era all on Raw. An attempt to hot-shot.

Leading to a huge multi-man match pitting where the fresh up-and-comers get buried.

It's 3 hours man. We have NOTHING to look forward to. We are SPOILED. I used to DROOL over 1 hour of MONDAY NIGHT RAW per week. Then two hours was a gift from heaven. But now it's just too damn much. I'd like to watch Smackdown and NXT as well but I can only find time to sometimes watch Raw and all of the PPV's or Takerovers. I would like to watch more but it sucks and its too long and not worth it.

Man, you’re doing it wrong. Honestly, dump Raw and watch SmackDown and NXT instead.

Mr. Nerfect
12-11-2018, 07:34 PM
SmackDown was awful the week I watched recently outside a Daniel Bryan promo.