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Evil Vito
01-03-2019, 11:00 AM
Last year we had some pretty active participation during the live broadcast so I feel like this deserves a dedicated thread separate from the NJPW thread.
0. NEVER Openweight Six-Man Tag Team Championship #1 Contender Gauntlet: Yuji Nagata/Jeff Cobb/David Finlay [Sekigun] vs. Hirooki Goto and Best Friends (Beretta/Chuckie T.) [CHAOS] vs. Minoru Suzuki and Killer Elite Squad (Davey Boy Smith Jr./Lance Archer) [Suzuki-gun] vs. Marty Scurll/Hangman Page/Yujiro Takahashi [The Elite] vs. Togi Makabe/Toru Yano/Ryusuke Taguchi [Most Violent Perverts]
1. NEVER Openweight Championship: Kota Ibushi (C) [Free] vs. Will Ospreay [CHAOS]
2. IWGP Jr. Heavyweight Tag Team Championship: El Desperado/Yoshinobu Kanemaru (C) [Suzuki-gun] vs. Roppongi 3K (SHO/YOH) [CHAOS] vs. BUSHI/Shingo Takagi [Los Ingobernables de Japon]
3. RPW British Heavyweight Championship: Tomohiro Ishii (C) [CHAOS] vs. Zack Sabre Jr. [Suzuki-gun]
4. IWGP Tag Team Championship: Guerillas of Destiny (Tama Tonga/Tanga Roa) (C) [Bullet Club] vs. SANADA/EVIL [Los Ingobernables de Japon] vs. The Young Bucks (Matt Jackson/Nick Jackson) [The Elite]
5. IWGP US Championship: Cody (C) [The Elite] vs. Juice Robinson [Sekigun]
6. IWGP Jr. Heavyweight Championship: KUSHIDA (C) [Sekigun] vs. Taiji Ishimori [Bullet Club]
7. Special Singles Match: Kazuchika Okada [CHAOS] vs. Jay White [Bullet Club]
8. IWGP Intercontinental Championship, No DQ Match: Chris Jericho (C) [Free] vs. Tetsuya Naito [Los Ingobernables de Japon]
9. IWGP Heavyweight Championship: Kenny Omega (C) [The Elite] vs. Hiroshi Tanahashi [Sekigun]
Pre-Show gauntlet begins at 11pm PST/2am EST/7am GMT
Main card at 12am PST/3am EST/8am GMT
Franco Vazquez
01-03-2019, 01:52 PM
I think it would be a pretty average event.
Is Ibushi suppose to win?
Mr. Nerfect
01-03-2019, 03:55 PM
I'm considering ordering this. Tokyo is not too far behind me here. Watching a live event in the evening could be refreshing.
Mr. Nerfect
01-03-2019, 03:59 PM
Meltzer talked like it's going to be impossible to follow Ibushi and Ospreay. Honestly, I can see the Junior Tag being a lot of harmless fun and Ishii and ZSJ being a sleeper for under-card match of the night -- especially if Ishii beats the piss out of ZSJ. I'm not too big on GoD, but The Bucks move around a lot and I like Sanada & EVIL. I'm curious to see Juice Robinson, and while I'm not that big a fan of Cody's work these days, he's far from horrible. They will both be busting ass, no doubt. Then you've got KUSHIDA, who is always awesome and Ishimori, who I am unfamiliar with and your main events.
Honestly, besides a potential lull when it gets to the Heavyweight Tag and possibly Cody and Robinson, this should be a fairly awesome card. But it's also got that thing where it appeals to you the more you think about it, so I think a lot of expectations might be "low" (not super-low, but just a bit reserved), which means a lot of people might be surprised.
Fignuts
01-03-2019, 05:36 PM
Ishimori is incredible and the Jr heavyweight match will be a candidate for MOTN.
Speaking of, wrestle kingdom would be a perfect time for a first look at the Jr Heavyweight DLC for fire pro. HINT HINT SPIKE
Mr. Nerfect
01-03-2019, 05:39 PM
I heard they had a really good match a year or two back? KUSHIDA won that, apparently, so I kind of expect Ishimori to win this one, which is probably fine, but bums me out because I like KUSHIDA. :lol:
Mr. Nerfect
01-03-2019, 05:40 PM
Japanese guys age so gracefully. Ibushi is 36 years old, which is not a bad thing, but he looks early 20's. KUSHIDA is another guy that looks really young but is 35.
Mr. Nerfect
01-03-2019, 05:41 PM
Minoru Suzuki is a year older than Triple H but is like 10 years better.
Mr. Nerfect
01-03-2019, 05:44 PM
ZSJ probably wins his match, hey? That's a shame, because I kind of want Ishii to eat him. I haven't seen them wrestle each other before, but Ishii is exactly the sort of opponent I want that pristine twat against. I will probably discover strange sexual feelings I have to confront when Ishii beats the piss out of him.
(I accept that ZSJ is talented, by the way -- he just fucking annoys me with his prick features. He's very lanky and looks like he should be a swimmer. It's something that can be used to his advantage.)
Fignuts
01-03-2019, 05:51 PM
I think it just adds to his smug bastard heel persona. Anyway, ZSJ deserves a win . He’s been putting in work for a while now.
Assuming Juice beats Cody, I think a program between him and Ishii for the US title could be interesting and yield some great matches. I think their styles would compliment each other really well.
Mr. Nerfect
01-03-2019, 05:56 PM
Ishii vs. Robinson does have appeal.
Fignuts
01-03-2019, 06:00 PM
They were in the same block in the G-1. Don’t think I saw their match though. Gonna correct that when I get home.
Mr. Nerfect
01-03-2019, 06:01 PM
Has Robinson been getting over? It seems like he had a great 2018 where he impressed a lot of people stateside, but how has the interest been in him over in Japan?
Evil Vito
01-03-2019, 06:11 PM
Robinson consisitently gets really strong pops and girls especially seem to love him. Pretty sure he’s cleaning up.
Jordan
01-03-2019, 06:21 PM
I don't think I will watch live this year. I'll probably just watch tomorrow on watch wrestling.
Evil Vito
01-03-2019, 07:38 PM
Booooooo
Fignuts
01-03-2019, 08:48 PM
What time does it start?
Fignuts
01-03-2019, 08:50 PM
Oh, 3am eastern. I’ll probably stay up for most of it, but not all.
Evil Vito
01-03-2019, 09:04 PM
Predictions, confidence pool style.
10 points - Naito. Even if Jericho decides to do some more work with NJPW, I really can't imagine any scenario where Naito isn't getting his win back here to get the IC title back after it's been gone for nearly half a year.
9 points - Juice. Juice and Cody have history going all the way back to Cody's NJPW debut two years ago, and Cody's gotten the best of him. It's time for Juice to get one up on him, especially with no guarantee that AEW and NJPW will have a working relationship immediately.
8 points - Shingo and BUSHI. Their presence in this match makes the whole Junior Tag League feel like it was a waste of time, and if they don't win the belts it was kinda pointless to put them in it in the first place.
7 points - Taiji Ishimori. KUSHIDA doesn't feel like he has anything left to accomplish in the juniors division anymore. Not sure if he'll move up to heavyweights or explore other opportunities, but I see Bone Soldier getting a big win.
6 points - ZSJ. For about a year now I've been wondering if he was going to make a play to usurp Suzuki, and he's the only Suzuki-gun member getting a singles match so a win here would make sense.
5 points - Ibushi. If there was a belt they don't seem shy about passing along frequently, it's the NEVER belt...and Ibushi being a freelancer complicates things slightly. But still, he's so ridiculously popular I don't know they'll end his reign so fast. I could see him maybe dropping it to ZSJ down the line.
4 points - Tanahashi. I've been going back and forth on this one a lot, but the more I think about it the more I think Ace will prevail. Kenny's taken so many shots at NJPW in his build that it seems like Tana's gotta shut him up. Also, the G1 winner has a recent history of blowing it in their title match and I feel like that's gotta end eventually.
3 points - Guerrillas of Destiny. While Shingo/BUSHI probably got put into their match to win, I feel like the soon to be departing Bucks were put here simply to eat a pin for the eventual winner. I could see either of the other teams winning but I think G.O.D get the last laugh on the Elite and LIJ can still lay claim to getting a regular title match down the line.
2 points - CHAOS team to win the gauntlet. Makabe/Yano/Taguchi feel like they were thrown together just to get them on the card. Nagata/Cobb/Finlay is just a random team. The Elite aren't winning it with another guy about to leave. The only other team that I could see winning are Suzuki-gun, but I'll guess they lose and set up a Bullet Club/CHAOS title match for New Year Dash in which Goto or YOSHI-HASHI reveal themselves as the latest CHAOS mole.
1 point - Okada. I think it's a good thing I have the least amount of confidence predicting this match and it might be the one I'm most interested in as a result. It's the only one with a truly well-defined story, and it's honestly a total coin flip to me. On one hand I think White could use the big win more since Okada can always be rebuilt...but it's tough to lay money against Okada so I'll guess him and call it a day.
Evil Vito
01-03-2019, 09:07 PM
Oh, 3am eastern. I’ll probably stay up for most of it, but not all.
lol, I'm about to grab a 4 hour nap and hope to marathon through
Fignuts
01-03-2019, 09:19 PM
If they go the BC mole route, it has to be Yoshi-hashi. Dude needs something...anything to stand out. He’s good enough in the ring, but he has nothing going on, in any other regard.
Besides Titus O’neiling himself that one time.
Emperor Smeat
01-03-2019, 09:34 PM
Very interested to see what happens with the KUSHIDA vs. Ishimori match considering the recent rumors of him possibly leaving for the WWE after this month. Even without the rumors, he likely was going to drop the title anyways since he's just been a placeholder champ after Hiromu got hurt. The rumors just make things a bit more juicier for this match.
Besides Omega, everyone else in The Elite already played their hands on where they are heading off to next. Only real surprise left is if NJPW is willing to partner up with AEW.
SlickyTrickyDamon
01-04-2019, 12:43 AM
Does new japan world have a trial?
Evil Vito
01-04-2019, 02:13 AM
I can't log on anywhere. What a fucking joke.
Evil Vito
01-04-2019, 02:21 AM
Biggest show of the year and their server shits the bed.
Anybody Thrilla
01-04-2019, 02:27 AM
I just read that WWE offered Kenny Omega a 23 million dollar deal or something. Dunno how true that is.
Evil Vito
01-04-2019, 02:35 AM
God I’d be so sad if Kenny goes to WWE. They’ll have no idea what to do with him, they just want to play keepaway.
Emperor Smeat
01-04-2019, 02:36 AM
Gauntlet match was good overall.
Evil Vito
01-04-2019, 02:36 AM
Anyway finally got this up on my PC. Not ideal since I wanted to watch on chrome cast but it’s still fucking up any time I try to access on my phone. Better than nothing.
Emperor Smeat
01-04-2019, 02:45 AM
I just read that WWE offered Kenny Omega a 23 million dollar deal or something. Dunno how true that is.
There were rumors very recently of WWE breaking their pay system for new contracts and bumping up the offer they made to Omega to the point it made him hesitate on whatever he was planning before.
Depending on how many years its for, he might be looking at close to Cena tier money in the WWE ($4-$6 million per year).
Anybody Thrilla
01-04-2019, 02:47 AM
I've only seen Omega doing fuck around work with the Young Bucks in ROH, and he was OK, I guess. Is he really worth all this?
Evil Vito
01-04-2019, 03:01 AM
Watched the gauntlet on my PC and then got the Chromecast to work less than a minute before the main card. Woooooooo!!!!!!!
The key seems to be NOT using the link at the top of NJPW World
Emperor Smeat
01-04-2019, 03:03 AM
I've only seen Omega doing fuck around work with the Young Bucks in ROH, and he was OK, I guess. Is he really worth all this?
Pretty much considering how much his value shot up the past 2 years and how important he was to NJPW for their US expansion plans and to ROH for helping break records for ticket sales.
Fignuts
01-04-2019, 03:13 AM
Fucking nj world saying I need to pay despite my account showing they charged me yesterday. Whatever. Found a stream so it’s all good.
Franco Vazquez
01-04-2019, 03:13 AM
Timing is perfect for me but there's not enough star power to pull me towards this event
Evil Vito
01-04-2019, 03:15 AM
Fucking nj world saying I need to pay despite my account showing they charged me yesterday. Whatever. Found a stream so it’s all good.
yeah, their site is fucked at the moment
guess it's sorta encouraging that so many people are trying to watch live, but still, gotta sort this shit
Fignuts
01-04-2019, 03:16 AM
Ibushi kinda fucked up on the Spanish fly there. Still, fun sequence.
Franco Vazquez
01-04-2019, 03:16 AM
Is there any live stream? I would try to watch it but the chances are very less that I am gonna watch the whole show.
Anybody Thrilla
01-04-2019, 03:17 AM
Pretty much considering how much his value shot up the past 2 years and how important he was to NJPW for their US expansion plans and to ROH for helping break records for ticket sales.
I guess my question should have been "is he really that good?".
mhirn3
01-04-2019, 03:18 AM
This show would be so much better with anyone but Kevin Kelly on play by play
Fignuts
01-04-2019, 03:19 AM
wtf ibushi just brained himself. Lucky he didn’t break his neck
Evil Vito
01-04-2019, 03:19 AM
Not Ibushi's face!!!
Emperor Smeat
01-04-2019, 03:19 AM
Ouch at Ibushi's face.
Franco Vazquez
01-04-2019, 03:20 AM
Kenny should ditch the Elite and come to WWE.
Fignuts
01-04-2019, 03:22 AM
This show would be so much better with anyone but Kevin Kelly on play by play
My stream is Japanese commentary. If I had the option I’d probably stick with this. I actually like jap commentators though. So much emotion.
Fignuts
01-04-2019, 03:23 AM
I was worried about these guys fighting for this belt, but they’re beating the shit out of each other. Proper NEVER title match.
Franco Vazquez
01-04-2019, 03:24 AM
A pretty average show till now.
Emperor Smeat
01-04-2019, 03:24 AM
Ibushi vs Ospreay was really great.
Dam, Ibushi got legit KOed
Evil Vito
01-04-2019, 03:24 AM
Shit, was not expecting Ospreay to win it
Really good opener
Fignuts
01-04-2019, 03:25 AM
Good fight.
Ibushi losing so early into his reign could indicate where he’s headed. Then again it is the never title so who knows
Evil Vito
01-04-2019, 03:26 AM
I think people were wondering if Kota and Will were gonna have a flippy match, instead it was a proper NEVER Title match with them beating the shit out of each other
Fignuts
01-04-2019, 03:30 AM
Pulling for rappongi but LIJ are probably winning this. Not that there’s anything wrong with that. Actually have a soft spot for Shingo. Saw him live very early in his career against curry man.
Fignuts
01-04-2019, 03:32 AM
Fucking BUSHI appropriating our culture
Fignuts
01-04-2019, 03:32 AM
Really like Desperados theme
Triple A
01-04-2019, 03:35 AM
I guess my question should have been "is he really that good?".
I think he is amazing and every match I've seen by him has been freaking sweet and very fun to watch and it makes WWE matches look like complete garbage shit
If he goes to WWE he will just have to work their shitty style though!!!
Fignuts
01-04-2019, 03:38 AM
Fuuuuuck that chop
Fignuts
01-04-2019, 03:39 AM
Take your merch off BUSHI, this is a fucking title match.
mhirn3
01-04-2019, 03:40 AM
My stream is Japanese commentary. If I had the option I’d probably stick with this. I actually like jap commentators though. So much emotion.
I think that’s my issue. He just says weird thing and at times seems bored
Fignuts
01-04-2019, 03:41 AM
I guess my question should have been "is he really that good?".
Well he made Dave Meltzer forget how numbers work with his 7/5 star match ratings for omega vs Olaf’s matches
Evil Vito
01-04-2019, 03:41 AM
BUSHI is great fun
LIJ going over seemed likely
Fignuts
01-04-2019, 03:42 AM
Well that was quick.
Evil Vito
01-04-2019, 03:43 AM
I think Shingo's going to move up to heavyweight pretty quickly
Fignuts
01-04-2019, 03:43 AM
Jr tag run has been a long time coming for LIJ. Hiromu was always embroiled in singles stuff until he, ya know.
Evil Vito
01-04-2019, 03:44 AM
ZSJ/Ishii could be an under the radar MOTN candidate
Fignuts
01-04-2019, 03:44 AM
Fuck yeah, here we go.
Fignuts
01-04-2019, 03:45 AM
Also, love NJPW.
No stupid bullshit. Just right into the next match.
Emperor Smeat
01-04-2019, 03:46 AM
Feels a bit weird there is no ROH title match on this year's card but then again those matches and the NWA title matches before usually got the weakest reactions at Wrestle Kingdom in recent years.
At least with this RPW title match, it has NJPW guys involved so the crowd should be really hot for it.
Fignuts
01-04-2019, 03:46 AM
Maybe I’ll just stay up for everything. I can get by on 4 hours of sleep, right?
Anybody Thrilla
01-04-2019, 03:48 AM
Maybe I’ll just stay up for everything. I can get by on 4 hours of sleep, right?
Easily.
Evil Vito
01-04-2019, 03:50 AM
4 or so hours of sleep is what I got, I usually don't go to bed til midnight but forced myself to sleep at like 9. I'll probably hit a wall at lunchtime and have a busy agenda at work today but fuck it
Fignuts
01-04-2019, 03:51 AM
PROTIP: If you like guys like Ishii and Goto, go watch yourself some early 00’s Yoshihiro Takayama matches.
Anybody Thrilla
01-04-2019, 03:51 AM
You can get by on no sleep if you really need to. 4 hours can be lovely sometimes.
Evil Vito
01-04-2019, 03:52 AM
Chris Roberts, a ref for RevPro, is reffing the British title match. Nice touch.
Anybody Thrilla
01-04-2019, 03:52 AM
I really think NJPW sounds like a lot of fun, but I have a hard enough time keeping up with all of the other wrestling I already watch.
Fignuts
01-04-2019, 03:54 AM
Fucking awesome guillotine counter.
Fignuts
01-04-2019, 03:56 AM
I really think NJPW sounds like a lot of fun, but I have a hard enough time keeping up with all of the other wrestling I already watch.
What other wrestling do you watch besides WWE?
Fignuts
01-04-2019, 03:59 AM
That sequence was fucking awesome
Evil Vito
01-04-2019, 04:00 AM
That match rocked
Fignuts
01-04-2019, 04:02 AM
Great match. Fantastic ending stretch.
Emperor Smeat
01-04-2019, 04:02 AM
Ishii vs Sabre was amazing.
Started to laugh a bit when the ref just kept saying "Ishii" for like a minute or two straight.
Evil Vito
01-04-2019, 04:03 AM
The convoluted names of ZSJ's finishers are amazing. Like his Octopus hold is officially called "Hurrah! Another Year, Surely This One Will Be Better Than the Last; The Inexorable March of Progress Will Lead Us All To Happiness."
I'm very intrigued at NJPW coming to Dallas in July.
Fignuts
01-04-2019, 04:06 AM
Just one wrestle kingdom I would like to see a tag title match that isn’t a 3-way or 4-way. Every year with this. Both tag title matches.
Fignuts
01-04-2019, 04:08 AM
The convoluted names of ZSJ's finishers are amazing. Like his Octopus hold is officially called "Hurrah! Another Year, Surely This One Will Be Better Than the Last; The Inexorable March of Progress Will Lead Us All To Happiness."
Without a shadow of a doubt that is his own little rib on the commentators, and I love it.
Fignuts
01-04-2019, 04:08 AM
Sanada looks like an Asian Viking from the year 3029.
Evil Vito
01-04-2019, 04:09 AM
Just one wrestle kingdom I would like to see a tag title match that isn’t a 3-way or 4-way. Every year with this. Both tag title matches.
Both of last year's tag title matches were straight up. R3k/Bucks and LIJ/KES. But they offset that with a four-way junior singles title match.
They can't help themselves but pull a WWE at WM to get everyone onto the show.
Evil Vito
01-04-2019, 04:10 AM
Every time I see Jado now I forget who he is
Fignuts
01-04-2019, 04:10 AM
Cool masks
Triple A
01-04-2019, 04:10 AM
shit wanted to watch ZSJ match... was gonna start watching in a lil...
Fignuts
01-04-2019, 04:11 AM
Fucking Rama forgot his war paint. Now I want him to lose.
Emperor Smeat
01-04-2019, 04:12 AM
The convoluted names of ZSJ's finishers are amazing. Like his Octopus hold is officially called "Hurrah! Another Year, Surely This One Will Be Better Than the Last; The Inexorable March of Progress Will Lead Us All To Happiness."
His holds have a pretty funny story attached to them in NJPW.
At one point, NJPW officials started to think he was BSing them with all the random names he was calling his moves till he showed them a tape of his Orienteering with Napalm Death move being announced in a different promotion.
Love the entrance for EVIL
ZSJ and Sanada are my two favorites in NJPW
Fignuts
01-04-2019, 04:16 AM
Clever spot
I really dig the camera work/look of the dome
Fignuts
01-04-2019, 04:17 AM
oof awful camera cut
Fignuts
01-04-2019, 04:18 AM
Generally NJPW has excellent camera work, but when they do fuck up it’s a doozy
Fignuts
01-04-2019, 04:19 AM
Definitely nice to watch the action without the camera violently shaking every 10 seconds tho
Fignuts
01-04-2019, 04:21 AM
lol at the ref giving gedo his kendo stick back
Evil Vito
01-04-2019, 04:22 AM
Wow, every title might actually change hands tonight
Emperor Smeat
01-04-2019, 04:23 AM
IWGP Tag title match was really good.
Wouldn't be surprised if all the belts changed hands tonight.
Evil Vito
01-04-2019, 04:26 AM
BRANDIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII
*bows in worship*
Fignuts
01-04-2019, 04:33 AM
I know Cody isn’t that popular around here but I really enjoy his classic, shit eating grin wearing, heel asshole persona. Adds more diversity to an already diverse roster.
Fignuts
01-04-2019, 04:34 AM
lol would have been amazing if Brandi went minoru Suzuki on a young boy, on her way out.
Fignuts
01-04-2019, 04:36 AM
Finisher swapping. Nice.
Jacksonville Jaguars themed fear for Brandi and Cody
Evil Vito
01-04-2019, 04:37 AM
That match wasn't bad but clearly the worst of the night. But really, I think it was meant to be a breather match since they don't do intermissions anymore.
Who said Cody wasn't popular around here?
Fignuts
01-04-2019, 04:39 AM
Eh. Kind of disappointing. Both guys have had much better matches this year.
Evil Vito
01-04-2019, 04:39 AM
The whole point of that match was for Juice to get his revenge, and they pretty much killed Cody dead since we don't know when or if AEW will do business with New Japan
Emperor Smeat
01-04-2019, 04:40 AM
US title match was decent. Feels like the card is breezing by a bit too fast.
I know Cody isn’t that popular around here but I really enjoy his classic, shit eating grin wearing, heel asshole persona. Adds more diversity to an already diverse roster.
Yeah his character work is easily his best aspect as a wrestler.
Fignuts
01-04-2019, 04:41 AM
Possible match of the night right here.
Evil Vito
01-04-2019, 04:42 AM
Asian Nicholas!
Fignuts
01-04-2019, 04:43 AM
Oh god that is horrifying
Emperor Smeat
01-04-2019, 04:43 AM
:lol: at Callis' "they just blew that kid up" line.
Fignuts
01-04-2019, 04:43 AM
Lol doc brownuuuu
Evil Vito
01-04-2019, 04:43 AM
KUSHIDA's theme is boss
Fignuts
01-04-2019, 04:44 AM
That might have been one of the best entrances I’ve ever seen
Fignuts
01-04-2019, 04:46 AM
Really hope Kushiro doesn’t go to wwe. They won’t have a clue.
mhirn3
01-04-2019, 04:47 AM
LOVE LOVE LOVE that Kushida entrance
Fignuts
01-04-2019, 04:48 AM
US title match was decent. Feels like the card is breezing by a bit too fast.
Yeah his character work is easily his best aspect as a wrestler.
I’m thinking omega vs tana is gonna go close to an hour
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Fignuts
01-04-2019, 04:53 AM
lol great ref spot
Evil Vito
01-04-2019, 04:57 AM
Bye bye KUSHIDA :(
Fignuts
01-04-2019, 04:58 AM
Another really good match
Emperor Smeat
01-04-2019, 04:58 AM
Ishimori vs. KUSHIDA was good.
Guess that's going to fuel the KUSHIDA leaving rumors even more now.
Evil Vito
01-04-2019, 04:58 AM
6-for-6 with title changes, and the IC title changing hands is obvious.
Main event now seems very much in question
Triple A
01-04-2019, 05:00 AM
Keep mixing up Jay White with Jay Lethal
Is Jay White "good"
Evil Vito
01-04-2019, 05:02 AM
Keep mixing up Jay White with Jay Lethal
Is Jay White "good"
He's improved leaps and bounds from where he was this time last year
Fignuts
01-04-2019, 05:02 AM
I think Okada gets his revenge here. Jay White has plenty of time. No need to give him the win over the guy just yet.
Fignuts
01-04-2019, 05:03 AM
Keep mixing up Jay White with Jay Lethal
Is Jay White "good"
He’s very good, yes.
Emperor Smeat
01-04-2019, 05:03 AM
Switchblade's white attire looks pretty cool.
Fignuts
01-04-2019, 05:04 AM
Just another update I’m gonna have to make in fire pro
Feel like a lot of these guys would not do well in WWE tbh
They are great but WWE won't "get" them, at all
Fignuts
01-04-2019, 05:06 AM
Classic gear. Classic version of rainmaker theme. Yeah, he’s winning this.
Hope Kenny, Ibushi, Kushida, etc stay away
but we'll see what happens
Evil Vito
01-04-2019, 05:07 AM
old school Okada is back
Fignuts
01-04-2019, 05:07 AM
Oh snap, back to trunks he’s super cereal
Emperor Smeat
01-04-2019, 05:08 AM
:lol: at the big pop Okada got for ripping off his pants.
His old look is way better than the Party Boy look he had last year
Fignuts
01-04-2019, 05:09 AM
Honestly this wasn’t one of the matches I was really excited for but okada bringing back the classics has me instantly hyped.
mhirn3
01-04-2019, 05:09 AM
Old Okada is back!
Fignuts
01-04-2019, 05:12 AM
Crowd is hot for this one
Fignuts
01-04-2019, 05:16 AM
Plaza has a great elbow drop
Triple A
01-04-2019, 05:17 AM
This is cool... Camera work, atmosphere, etc...
Franco Vazquez
01-04-2019, 05:17 AM
Wait, So this PPV didn't have any women's matches? Then why people hate on WWE for going to Saudi for PPVs? How is this any different than GRR or CJ?
Triple A
01-04-2019, 05:21 AM
oh shit
That was sweet though
Evil Vito
01-04-2019, 05:21 AM
OH FUCK, WOW
did not expect that finish
Emperor Smeat
01-04-2019, 05:21 AM
:eek: White actually won
Fignuts
01-04-2019, 05:22 AM
Wowwwwwwwwww
mhirn3
01-04-2019, 05:23 AM
Didn’t see that finish coming. Maybe Jay gets the belt tomorrow?
Evil Vito
01-04-2019, 05:27 AM
I think whoever walks out of this main event is losing the belt to White by Dominion
Emperor Smeat
01-04-2019, 05:33 AM
Wonder if Jericho instantly regrets making this a No DQ match.
Fignuts
01-04-2019, 05:35 AM
Oof that piledriver looked brutal
Fignuts
01-04-2019, 05:36 AM
Naoto channeling his inner yano
Emperor Smeat
01-04-2019, 05:40 AM
Ouch at that DDT onto the table.
Triple A
01-04-2019, 05:40 AM
Don Callis is great
Fignuts
01-04-2019, 05:40 AM
They really need bigger tables.
Emperor Smeat
01-04-2019, 05:41 AM
The bell spot was pretty funny
Fignuts
01-04-2019, 05:42 AM
lol at Jericho ringing the bell
Fignuts
01-04-2019, 05:43 AM
Damn that lionsault had some distance
Fignuts
01-04-2019, 05:46 AM
Great counter into the walls
Fignuts
01-04-2019, 05:47 AM
This match is really fucking good.
Fignuts
01-04-2019, 05:50 AM
Best code breaker sell I’ve ever seen.
Evil Vito
01-04-2019, 05:52 AM
I had no emotional investment going into this match since it felt like a foregone conclusion, but god damn it's been good. Way better than their first encounter.
Triple A
01-04-2019, 05:53 AM
Really enjoying everything I've seen... (started with Ishimori vs. Kushida)
Emperor Smeat
01-04-2019, 05:56 AM
:lol: at Naito chucking the belt out of the ring.
Jericho vs Naito was amazing.
Evil Vito
01-04-2019, 05:57 AM
lol @ the crowd being way into Naito but still booing him hucking the IC title away
great fucking match
Fignuts
01-04-2019, 05:57 AM
That was the best match Jericho has had since joining NJPW. Best match he’s had in years.
Triple A
01-04-2019, 06:03 AM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">.<a href="https://twitter.com/IAmJericho?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@IAmJericho</a> SPIKES Naito! Unreal! <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/njwk13?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#njwk13</a><br><br>➡️ <a href="https://t.co/8n90d75Nfk">https://t.co/8n90d75Nfk</a> <a href="https://t.co/RxmwhZ979i">pic.twitter.com/RxmwhZ979i</a></p>— TDE Wrestling (@totaldivaseps) <a href="https://twitter.com/totaldivaseps/status/1081138320799866880?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 4, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Fignuts
01-04-2019, 06:03 AM
Oh fuck I had to switch streams and it’s english commentary.
Fignuts
01-04-2019, 06:06 AM
Hope Kenny doesn’t come out in something stupid looking
Fignuts
01-04-2019, 06:06 AM
OMG they’re using the Undertale promo
Fignuts
01-04-2019, 06:07 AM
FUCKING UNDERTALE IS AT WRESTLE KINGDOM
Emperor Smeat
01-04-2019, 06:08 AM
Pretty cool gear by Omega. A literal one winged angel.
Triple A
01-04-2019, 06:09 AM
damn reading the results of the matches I missed... Ospreay vs. Ibushi seems freaking sweet... gonna prob rewatch this
Fignuts
01-04-2019, 06:11 AM
Who is this fucking guy on commentary with Kevin Kelley and Callis? He’s fucking awful
Triple A
01-04-2019, 06:12 AM
Who is this fucking guy on commentary with Kevin Kelley and Callis? He’s fucking awful
lol was gonna say... Doesn't fit in at all... Keep thinking "who is this guy..." Thought he was one of the regular guys on commentary
Fignuts
01-04-2019, 06:14 AM
I think he’s made brief appearances before to translate stuff, buts he’s never been a regular. For obvious fucking reasons
Evil Vito
01-04-2019, 06:14 AM
Who is this fucking guy on commentary with Kevin Kelley and Callis? He’s fucking awful
Chris Charlton. He's a New Japan historian but is best served when he only chimes in occasionally for context. He's talked a bit too much already this match.
Fignuts
01-04-2019, 06:15 AM
Damn they’re knocking the shit out of each other
mhirn3
01-04-2019, 06:18 AM
Chris Charlton. He's a New Japan historian but is best served when he only chimes in occasionally for context. He's talked a bit too much already this match.
He’s talked far too much the whole show. They kept focusing too much on the tag teams records earlier I thought
Fignuts
01-04-2019, 06:18 AM
Call is laying it on a bit thick. Original stream is back up so back to jap commentary
Emperor Smeat
01-04-2019, 06:26 AM
Ouch at that thud sound from Omega's dive to the outside
Emperor Smeat
01-04-2019, 06:28 AM
A few inches more to the side on the ramp and Omega could have seriously messed up his back like Rick Rude did in Japan that caused him to retire.
Triple A
01-04-2019, 06:28 AM
Damn, that knee spot seemed dangerous........
Evil Vito
01-04-2019, 06:31 AM
That Dragon Screw looked hellacious
Evil Vito
01-04-2019, 06:35 AM
Callis is laying it on way too thick
Emperor Smeat
01-04-2019, 06:36 AM
Nice of Kenny to help Tana back into the ring instead of taking a cheap count out win. Going to look like a dumbass if he loses afterwards though.
Triple A
01-04-2019, 06:37 AM
Omega is incredible , , ,
Everything is so intense... amazing...
Did Minoru Suzuki get pinned?
Triple A
01-04-2019, 06:44 AM
oh shit @ one winged angel reversal
Tanahashi's face looked like it was an inch off the mat
Franco Vazquez
01-04-2019, 06:44 AM
Why should Kenny join his friends in AEW and not WWE? They don't owe him anything and after few years they wouldn't even care about him. He shouldn't let emotions come in between his career. He's at top of his career right now and WWE can make him a bonafide superstar.
Triple A
01-04-2019, 06:45 AM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Reverse Rana! <a href="https://twitter.com/tanahashi1_100?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@tanahashi1_100</a> counters out of the One Winged Angel! <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/njwk13?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#njwk13</a><br><br>➡️ <a href="https://t.co/8n90d75Nfk">https://t.co/8n90d75Nfk</a> <a href="https://t.co/jv6qsG6Zos">pic.twitter.com/jv6qsG6Zos</a></p>— TDE Wrestling (@totaldivaseps) <a href="https://twitter.com/totaldivaseps/status/1081154400419282944?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 4, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Triple A
01-04-2019, 06:47 AM
omg
@ top rope dragon suplex
Evil Vito
01-04-2019, 06:47 AM
Hottttttttttt match
Did Minoru Suzuki get pinned?
Evil Vito
01-04-2019, 06:49 AM
Wow, they really did change all the titles
Emperor Smeat
01-04-2019, 06:50 AM
Main event was really great and so was Wrestle Kingdom overall.
Also the best match Omega has had since he won the belt.
mhirn3
01-04-2019, 06:51 AM
Why?
Evil Vito
01-04-2019, 06:51 AM
Pretty sure Tana's just going to get one last "thank you" reign and he's gonna transition it over to Switchblade
Fignuts
01-04-2019, 07:02 AM
Just want to take a moment to thank you guys for staying on topic and not taking any of Franco’s bait. We did it you guys.
Triple A
01-04-2019, 07:05 AM
Fuck you, guys.
idk dude sry!
Evil Vito
01-04-2019, 07:06 AM
No, Davey Boy Smith Jr got pinned
Evil Vito
01-04-2019, 07:09 AM
Just want to take a moment to thank you guys for staying on topic and not taking any of Franco’s bait. We did it you guys.
Gertner may have quit TPWW forever but his sock is still putting the work in
Evil Vito
01-04-2019, 07:11 AM
This show was like an hour shorter than last year and I think it actually helped.
Fignuts
01-04-2019, 07:19 AM
This show was like an hour shorter than last year and I think it actually helped.
I dunno. A few of those undercard matches could have used a few extra minutes.
Evil Vito
01-04-2019, 07:21 AM
I dunno. A few of those undercard matches could have used a few extra minutes.
I'd have given some more time to Bone Soldier/KUSHIDA but wasn't too bothered with the rest.
Evil Vito
01-04-2019, 07:28 AM
It is amazing how 5 hours of NJPW breezes by while 5 hours of WWE sounds like a fate worse than death
Jordan
01-04-2019, 10:22 AM
Watching now. The opener is insane. This match.
Jordan
01-04-2019, 10:23 AM
I do wish that they'd have ended with the knockout blow instead of a storm breaker, but that was match was TNT.
Jordan
01-04-2019, 10:39 AM
Man Shingo is MUCH welcomed to NJPW. I haven't seen him work here yet and he is so good for this company.
Jordan
01-04-2019, 10:49 AM
ZSJ is such a paradox. Truly one of the most fun wrestlers to watch with probably the most confusing physique in the game. Dude looks like an erotica wrestler but damn his matches are good.
I haven't read any spoilers yet. Khusida's entrance was amusing.
Innovator
01-04-2019, 02:24 PM
Okada’s thighs got one of the loudest pops of the night
Mr. Nerfect
01-04-2019, 06:50 PM
I'm watching Okada vs. Jay White now. Jay White is boring. Looks way out of place.
Mr. Nerfect
01-04-2019, 06:51 PM
The commentary is really bad. Not WWE-style at least, but just bad.
Mr. Nerfect
01-04-2019, 06:53 PM
Okada is so good.
Mr. Nerfect
01-04-2019, 06:56 PM
It feels like the crowd is dead whenever Jay White does anything. It's not that he's bad or anything. He's just boring.
Lol, he just won. I had a feeling he would. Wouldn't surprise me if he wins the IWGP Title honestly.
Mr. Nerfect
01-04-2019, 06:59 PM
Lol, Ospreay vs. Ibushi. I was okay with the start of this match, but Ibushi just went for a moonsault and Ospreay had already moved onto the apron and commentary is just like "Ibushi had his back turned so he couldn't see." Fucking hell.
Mr. Nerfect
01-04-2019, 07:01 PM
I'm tapping on this match. Ospreay isn't doing it for me. Ibushi is acting like a parody of himself.
Mr. Nerfect
01-04-2019, 07:04 PM
British Heavyweight Title is a nice belt.
Mr. Nerfect
01-04-2019, 07:04 PM
ZSJ reminds me of one of the guys from The In-Betweeners.
Mr. Nerfect
01-04-2019, 07:06 PM
Jesus Christ, why would someone with the frame of ZSJ want Ishii to hit him?
Mr. Nerfect
01-04-2019, 07:12 PM
I haven't seen ZSJ in a long time, but this isn't doing it for me. Just no-sold a superplex. It don't get why a guy whose gimmick is that his technical stuff could really hurt you completely blows away the realism of a match. He telegraphs what he's doing too much too. He leans way too much into things.
This is a shame, because this is the match I was looking forward to the most, because I fucking love what I've seen from Ishii.
Mr. Nerfect
01-04-2019, 07:13 PM
Yeah, tapping out of this match too.
Mr. Nerfect
01-04-2019, 07:14 PM
Going to watch Omega vs. Tanahashi. Fucking hell, Tanahashi just looks like a star.
Mr. Nerfect
01-04-2019, 07:18 PM
Omega is not nearly as annoying as he was. He's matured heaps, you can tell.
Mr. Nerfect
01-04-2019, 07:40 PM
I've noticed that they're doing a lot of "near falls" for drama that are kind of fucked up. Like the ref knows not to count so they stay in it for what should be a shoot three but it's not a pin. Like it's happened in ZSJ vs. Ishii, Okada vs. White and Omega vs. Tanahashi. I didn't get far enough into Ibushi vs. Ospreay to see if it happened in that too.
Mr. Nerfect
01-04-2019, 07:43 PM
Wasn't Tanahashi supposed to be really hurt or something? You can't fucking tell.
Evil Vito
01-04-2019, 09:11 PM
Omega is not nearly as annoying as he was. He's matured heaps, you can tell.
Omega definitely was way more serious in this one.
Mr. Nerfect
01-04-2019, 11:27 PM
Yeah, definitely. Tanahashi's hair has more star power than most people in wrestling put together.
Mr. Nerfect
01-04-2019, 11:33 PM
I like how New Japan has its two greatest champions in kayfabe on their current roster. I also didn't realize that since they've done the championship certificate from the G1 that no one had ever won. I knew that there was a streak of people losing, but I had no clue that no one had ever done it.
Mr. Nerfect
01-05-2019, 02:04 AM
Oh, I just saw that they are running two Tokyo Dome shows on consecutive nights in 2020. That's pretty huge. They certainly have the roster size for that. They've also got relationships they can mine. If deals with ROH, AEW and Rev Pro are all running, I can see all their belts being defended. It's eventually the way I see WrestleMania going.
Evil Vito
01-05-2019, 01:21 PM
CMLL too. I've heard that their relationship with ROH is pretty rocky at this point but I do see AEW striking a deal with them eventually.
Ol Dirty Dastard
01-05-2019, 01:24 PM
Wanted to read what was going on in here but was assaulted by a bunch of noid posts.
Evil Vito
01-05-2019, 01:37 PM
I'm sure the payday was worth it, but Hangman and Scurll flew halfway around the world to wrestle in a gauntlet for a few minutes and not be booked on New Years Dash lol
Emperor Smeat
01-05-2019, 02:22 PM
CMLL too. I've heard that their relationship with ROH is pretty rocky at this point but I do see AEW striking a deal with them eventually.
The Elite (and Bullet Club) pretty much kept ROH relevant to NJPW considering ROH has been benefiting way more from their partnership. Only reason ROH haven't hit a NWA-level of uselessness yet is due to having a better roster to work with for NJPW.
Could see NJPW ditch ROH for AEW or someone else in a few years depending on how their US expansion pans out and if AEW becomes successful.
Evil Vito
01-05-2019, 02:46 PM
I want ROH and NJPW to work together just long enough for PCO to get a match in Tokyo
Mr. Nerfect
01-05-2019, 03:35 PM
The MSG deal is pretty huge for New Japan, and that was largely secured thanks to Sinclair.
Evil Vito
01-06-2019, 12:41 AM
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Kazuchika Okada's legs will bring about world peace
Jordan
01-07-2019, 11:51 AM
With NJPW losing so many guys to AEW, I wonder who will get the push to fill the void? Looks like Will Ospreay will be the top Gaijin tailed by Jay White as a heel. Who can replace the bucks? Nobody. I hope they shove Jeff Cobb into the mix. He's old school and perfect for NJPW. Will we get PCO vs Ishii and Suzuki?!?
Jordan
01-07-2019, 11:51 AM
NJPW is doing the right thing by staying with ROH over AEW (at this time at least). ROH is a solid partner with good talent to pluck from. ROH has made very smart signings the last few months.
Simple Fan
01-07-2019, 12:07 PM
Roppongi 3K will replace the Young Bucks if they stay together.
I wonder if ZSJ will get a bigger push
Jordan
01-07-2019, 02:28 PM
Ah yeah that does seem likely.
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