The Revival asked for their release

[slik]

Brad Shepard and Sean Ross Sapp both reporting that The Revival have requested their release from WWE.

[Bad News Gertner]

They are awful

[slik]

Could they beat the Tonga Kid and Harley Race from 1980 tho

[Evil Vito]

Young Bucks vs. The Revival at Double or Nothing

[Bad News Gertner]

Could they beat the Tonga Kid and Harley Race from 1980 tho

Tonga Kid and Harlry Race never teamed.


Silly.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Tonga Kid and King Tonga would rek the revival.

[Bad News Gertner]

They are just two boring midgets

[Evil Vito]

At least The Revival is a cooler name than The New Brain Busters

[Evil Vito]

Apparently Dash Wilder successfully trademarked "#FTR" on January 1st

[ClockShot]

That would be the best thing to ever happen to The Revival if they got out.

Absolutely wasted.

[Fignuts]

They are just two boring midgets

Dunno. They had some great matches with those other midgets. And made AOP look amazing even though they were pretty green. And they got legit heat from an unbearable audience that loves everything.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I said it somewhere else and I'll say it here: Fuck Lucha Underground. Fucking fucks.

I had this idea that if The Revival went to AEW, Jim Cornette would introduce them as "FTR" and then said he'd tell us what it means, but we're too stupid to even spell it. Then they'd just be FTR forever.

[Evil Vito]

Meltzer dumped cold water on the idea of The Revival ending up in AEW anytime soon. WWE aren’t going to grant them or anyone else that asks for it an early release.

[erickman]

Meltzer dumped cold water on the idea of The Revival ending up in AEW anytime soon. WWE aren’t going to grant them or anyone else that asks for it an early release.

yeah vince is not going to let them leave till there contracts are about up, for there sake I hope it is soon.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Meltzer just said that they have been known to milk contracts. If the company catches heat for it and there are AEW/Free Revival chants, they may just decide it’s not worth the stress.

[Emperor Smeat]

Meltzer just said that they have been known to milk contracts. If the company catches heat for it and there are AEW/Free Revival chants, they may just decide it’s not worth the stress.

On the flip side, there have been some speculation that WWE could pull a page from ROH and threaten legal action against AEW if more talent keep trying to get out of their contracts.

They could claim contract tampering by AEW and even without any real proof, it likely would scare AEW away from signing anyone from WWE even after their contract expires. When WWE got threatened for it, they had to wait months after a contract expired before they could sign someone from ROH just to avoid potential lawsuits.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Seems like something the Khans should be able to take care of. Hopefully.

[Mr. Nerfect]

FTR FTW.

[xrodmuc316]

So what? If WWE isn't going to grant releases then the guys who ask for one are just going to get buried.

Vince held Neville to his contract for over a year, and that was before the threat of a new company was there.

Vince will happily pay guys their downside guarantees to sit at home doing nothing then to give them a release to go work for a competitor.

Assuming the revival signed their main roster contracts at the time of their callups, they are locked up until April 2020. Then of course their is the clause Vince uses to extend the contracts when talent are injured, which could push their contracts into the fall of 2020.

Good luck

[Savio]

As an independent contractor can you work for other companies you will just lose the gaurenteed money? Didn't Del Rio/Punk say something like WWEs contracts were horse shit.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Say no! Give them the tag team titles and a big push

[Bad News Gertner]

They should have those jobbers lose to Primo and Epic every week in dark matches.

[Emperor Smeat]

Even though Maria recently denied it, seems there might actually be some truth to her and Mike Kanellis wanting out of the WWE.

WWE recently pulled a planned collection set for the Network that would have been hosted by the two.

WWE is no longer advertising the "Power of Love" Collection for next month on the WWE Network. That was supposed to be hosted by Maria and Mike Kanellis. WWE is still listing the Booker T Collection.


Also appears the official reason why the Revival asked for their release is due to them being upset at the miserable state of WWE's tag division. Supposedly they requested a release several months ago but put it on hold since WWE promised big changes being made for the division. 3 months later, both realized WWE lied to them and asked for their release again. Also lied to them about granting their release if they were still unhappy.

A follow-up story revealed that WWE allegedly asked for three months to change before granting a release to the Top Guys.

According to Pro Wrestling Sheet, Scott Dawson and Dash Wilder were not thinking of themselves when they asked for their release, but the entire tag team division. The division’s lack of direction, promos and attention frustrated the two. The frustration boiled over when RAW Tag Team Champions Bobby Roode and Chad Gable weren’t even featured on Monday’s episode of RAW. Gallows and Anderson (who were initially considered big signings) and the Authors of Pain are other examples of tag teams not getting a lot of TV time. Meanwhile, The Revival’s own match with the Lucha House Party on RAW was used as filler while the feed cut backstage for vignettes.

[erickman]

Even though Maria recently denied it, seems there might actually be some truth to her and Mike Kanellis wanting out of the WWE.

WWE recently pulled a planned collection set for the Network that would have been hosted by the two.




Also appears the official reason why the Revival asked for their release is due to them being upset at the miserable state of WWE's tag division. Supposedly they requested a release several months ago but put it on hold since WWE promised big changes being made for the division. 3 months later, both realized WWE lied to them and asked for their release again. Also lied to them about granting their release if they were still unhappy.

I wonder when tag teams are going to figure out vince never gave a crap about tag teams, he only likes singles. he may put singles into tags for awhile but he treats them as singles. so it will never get better for known tag teams.

[Emperor Smeat]

Maybe Vince/Creative promised them RAW's tag division would at least get treated similar to Smackdown's division or a legit overhaul of tag booking since even Smackdown has its own share of issues.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Looking over at that, I wouldn't say that's enough. Things tend to flux between the two shows as to which is getting more attention at any given month.

[Anybody Thrilla]

Love The Revival, but so what, I guess.

[Fignuts]

So what about anything really. Wrestling doesn't matter anymore and it never will again.

[ClockShot]

No doubt they were banking everything on the Young Bucks signing.

[Stickman]

It's not like they are huge stars or that amazing in the ring. Not sure what they think leaving would do other than give them their "dream match" with the Young Bucks. So they have that match, then what?
Didn't they get in trouble for calling themselves wrestlers? Seems like these guys have a bad attitude, let them sit out or job for a year so nobody gives a damn when they finally leave.

[xrodmuc316]

It's not like they are huge stars or that amazing in the ring. Not sure what they think leaving would do other than give them their "dream match" with the Young Bucks. So they have that match, then what?
Didn't they get in trouble for calling themselves wrestlers? Seems like these guys have a bad attitude, let them sit out or job for a year so nobody gives a damn when they finally leave.

Nobody seems to remember that before they were paired up in NXT together they were nothing special. Dawson was around as a jobber with a different partner in NXT way before Dash even signed.

Point is these guys fully believe their gimmick of "no flip just fists" and think they are WAY more important and valuable than they are.

Best case scenario, they got their release and went to AEW. You think the more accomplished tag team who are bookers/executives are booking a failed WWE tag team over themselves?

We are not talking about Gallows and Anderson, who are more accomplished in WWE, tag champs, Mania match, been a part of PPV main events, and also have plenty of outside WWE success to justify a power play.

I say on principal ungratefuls like the Revival should get sent home and forced to sit out until their contract is up, making their downside guarantee only and nothing else.

[LibSuperstar]

Nobody seems to remember that before they were paired up in NXT together they were nothing special. Dawson was around as a jobber with a different partner in NXT way before Dash even signed.

Point is these guys fully believe their gimmick of "no flip just fists" and think they are WAY more important and valuable than they are.

Best case scenario, they got their release and went to AEW. You think the more accomplished tag team who are bookers/executives are booking a failed WWE tag team over themselves?

We are not talking about Gallows and Anderson, who are more accomplished in WWE, tag champs, Mania match, been a part of PPV main events, and also have plenty of outside WWE success to justify a power play.

I say on principal ungratefuls like the Revival should get sent home and forced to sit out until their contract is up, making their downside guarantee only and nothing else.

Unless they learn how to get a reaction, they're not gonna do much regardless of what promotion they go to.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

They were wrong about Maria and Mike so probably wrong about this. Fuck The Young Bucks.

[RP]

SAYYYYY YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[Jordan]

Unless they learn how to get a reaction, they're not gonna do much regardless of what promotion they go to.

I feel you on this but... the NXT presentation of The Revival got them over for sure. And that was basically just awesome tag team matches.

[Evil Vito]

They were wrong about Maria and Mike so probably wrong about this. Fuck The Young Bucks.

You’re a fucking dope.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Nobody seems to remember that before they were paired up in NXT together they were nothing special. Dawson was around as a jobber with a different partner in NXT way before Dash even signed.

Point is these guys fully believe their gimmick of "no flip just fists" and think they are WAY more important and valuable than they are.

Best case scenario, they got their release and went to AEW. You think the more accomplished tag team who are bookers/executives are booking a failed WWE tag team over themselves?

We are not talking about Gallows and Anderson, who are more accomplished in WWE, tag champs, Mania match, been a part of PPV main events, and also have plenty of outside WWE success to justify a power play.

I say on principal ungratefuls like the Revival should get sent home and forced to sit out until their contract is up, making their downside guarantee only and nothing else.

People forget that before Steve Austin was Stone Cold, he was just the Ringmaster, and he was nothing special. Austin even had another partner called Shane Douglas.

Point is, he truly believes his gimmick of being a redneck ass-kicker.

What kind of nonsense is this? Of course they were nothing once upon a time. They worked hard, got really good and became special, going as far as to have some of the best constructed matches of the 2015/2016 period. Do I think that The Young Bucks would put them over themselves? Yes, absolutely. Why wouldn't they?

They were wrong about Maria and Mike so probably wrong about this. Fuck The Young Bucks.

Reports are now saying that there might be more to Maria and Mike wanting out than Maria let on. A Network special slated to be hosted by the two has been cancelled. That could just be because it was the drizzling. But Brad Shepard, as much as I hate that guy (do yourself a favor and do not listen to his podcast), never reported that Maria was leaving anyway. He retweeted her saying "When people reporting your career know more than you do" or some shit.

[Evil Vito]

Shit, I didn't realize the Revival were signed until 2020.

I think them asking for their release immediately after their match still in ring gear was their way of trying to piss WWE off to get them to actually fire them. But since that backfired, they're pretty well screwed for the next year.

[Shisen Kopf]

They suck so much. What kind of idiot would like them?

[Mr. Nerfect]

Shit, I didn't realize the Revival were signed until 2020.

I think them asking for their release immediately after their match still in ring gear was their way of trying to piss WWE off to get them to actually fire them. But since that backfired, they're pretty well screwed for the next year.

Are they actually signed for that long, or is that just the speculation? Either way, I'm sure The Revival know what they have gotten themselves into with this. If they are released, they will be able to go to AEW by the time Double or Nothing happens and possibly steal the show with The Young Bucks. If they aren't released, I think they are counting on it being the start of their build.

By the time it is time for them to burst onto the scene, and keep in mind that a lot of rumors about TV deals and stuff don't have them going up until the end of 2019 anyway, so it'd be under a year before their contracts are up. Plus, with fans being more aware than ever, it might get them invested in The Revival's agency as a team. "FTR" could very quickly come to mean "Free the Revival" as they become cult figures that WWE is keeping hostage. And maybe they are hoping they don't get used as much so they can keep nice and healthy.

They seem like clever guys. You can kind of tell by how Dawson manipulates twitter and plays a whole bunch of sides. I'm sure they've got strategies down for everything, and they obviously have both agreed to this approach.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Like, if they are used as jobbers, the crowds are just going to get more into them. If they are pushed, crowds are going to chant "FTR!" and people will work out what it means. If they just sit at home, WWE is just trying to silence one of the best teams in the business. It might seriously just be best to cut them, big dog them, let them go to AEW and it result in great matches that don't turn the industry on its head.

[erickman]

Shit, I didn't realize the Revival were signed until 2020.

I think them asking for their release immediately after their match still in ring gear was their way of trying to piss WWE off to get them to actually fire them. But since that backfired, they're pretty well screwed for the next year.

yeah you have to do like rich swan to get an early release now, I wonder if wwe will have a spring cleaning this year. swagger left wwe at the right time.

[Evil Vito]

Are they actually signed for that long, or is that just the speculation? Either way, I'm sure The Revival know what they have gotten themselves into with this. If they are released, they will be able to go to AEW by the time Double or Nothing happens and possibly steal the show with The Young Bucks. If they aren't released, I think they are counting on it being the start of their build.

Some signings get main roster level contracts right out of the gate, even if they are going to NXT first (Balor, Nakamura, Joe etc.) Basically they are reasonably assured they're going to get called up eventually so they are comped accordingly.

Some talents who come into the company as relative unknowns just get straight up developmental deals. The Revival, Alexa, Strowman, Breeze, and plenty of others. In their cases, their developmental contract gets ripped up when they get called up and replaced with a 3-year main roster contract.

Revival were called up the night after WM 33, which would mean they're locked in until early April 2020.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Some signings get main roster level contracts right out of the gate, even if they are going to NXT first (Balor, Nakamura, Joe etc.) Basically they are reasonably assured they're going to get called up eventually so they are comped accordingly.

Some talents who come into the company as relative unknowns just get straight up developmental deals. The Revival, Alexa, Strowman, Breeze, and plenty of others. In their cases, their developmental contract gets ripped up when they get called up and replaced with a 3-year main roster contract.

Revival were called up the night after WM 33, which would mean they're locked in until early April 2020.

Are they always 3 year contracts? And while it is reasonable to assume that Dawson & Dash were both brought in at a developmental level, at what point did they really renegotiate to get better deals? I mean, I did the same thing as you've done to get 2020 once too, but do we know that or are we just speculating?

[Evil Vito]

Are they always 3 year contracts? And while it is reasonable to assume that Dawson & Dash were both brought in at a developmental level, at what point did they really renegotiate to get better deals? I mean, I did the same thing as you've done to get 2020 once too, but do we know that or are we just speculating?

Big Dave's talked about contract structures in the past and has already confirmed it's April 2020.

[erickman]

dave also said wwe may tack 2 months on it since they got hurt and missed 2 months.

[xrodmuc316]

Some signings get main roster level contracts right out of the gate, even if they are going to NXT first (Balor, Nakamura, Joe etc.) Basically they are reasonably assured they're going to get called up eventually so they are comped accordingly.

Some talents who come into the company as relative unknowns just get straight up developmental deals. The Revival, Alexa, Strowman, Breeze, and plenty of others. In their cases, their developmental contract gets ripped up when they get called up and replaced with a 3-year main roster contract.

Revival were called up the night after WM 33, which would mean they're locked in until early April 2020.

Unless Vince drags it out for the time they were injured which was about 5 months for each of them if I remember correctly.

That takes them to September 2020.

[xrodmuc316]

dave also said wwe may tack 2 months on it since they got hurt and missed 2 months.

I went back and looked, Dash was out 7 weeks with a broken jaw. Then Dawson missed 6 months with an injured bicep.

I wonder if Vince would tack on the extra time to both, or just the time each was injured. Dash locked up until June 2020, and Vince keeps Dawson an extra 4 months until October 2020 lol

[RP]

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[Mr. Nerfect]

Big Dave's talked about contract structures in the past and has already confirmed it's April 2020.

Oh okay. Well, in that case I think it’s the long-haul strategy. Hope that it makes them look like evil villains keeping you chained down.

[Evil Vito]

Oh and since I'm not sure where to put this - seeing a bunch of people on Twitter labeling Mike and Maria as being ungrateful, etc. and honestly it's such a bad take. They owe the company nothing.

If the shoe was on the other foot, the company wouldn't hesitate to fire them in a second. The company pays for rehab and maternity leave for PR and legal purposes. They wouldn't do it otherwise.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

People forget that before Steve Austin was Stone Cold, he was just the Ringmaster, and he was nothing special. Austin even had another partner called Shane Douglas.

Point is, he truly believes his gimmick of being a redneck ass-kicker.

What kind of nonsense is this? Of course they were nothing once upon a time. They worked hard, got really good and became special, going as far as to have some of the best constructed matches of the 2015/2016 period. Do I think that The Young Bucks would put them over themselves? Yes, absolutely. Why wouldn't they?



Reports are now saying that there might be more to Maria and Mike wanting out than Maria let on. A Network special slated to be hosted by the two has been cancelled. That could just be because it was the drizzling. But Brad Shepard, as much as I hate that guy (do yourself a favor and do not listen to his podcast), never reported that Maria was leaving anyway. He retweeted her saying "When people reporting your career know more than you do" or some shit.

He had like one ppv match. The special would be like 15 minutes. Cancelled for lack of footage and it was a bad idea to begin with.

[xrodmuc316]

Oh and since I'm not sure where to put this - seeing a bunch of people on Twitter labeling Mike and Maria as being ungrateful, etc. and honestly it's such a bad take. They owe the company nothing.

If the shoe was on the other foot, the company wouldn't hesitate to fire them in a second. The company pays for rehab and maternity leave for PR and legal purposes. They wouldn't do it otherwise.

The maternity leave is cause Dawn Marie sued them for wrongful termination back in 2004 or so after they canned her for getting pregnaut.

[Mr. Nerfect]

He had like one ppv match. The special would be like 15 minutes. Cancelled for lack of footage and it was a bad idea to begin with.

They were hosting the special, it wasn’t about them, you goober. :lol:

[Nicky Fives]

Maria more valuable to AEW than Mike & Revival combined in my eyes....smart cookie and not too hard on the eyes.....

Revival & Bennett are all great technically in the ring, but undersized and pretty boring in the charisma department. Creative could likely give them more (as they could with every other talent), but it seems like they've just had enough and want a change.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I think Revival have got a real use. They appeal to that audience and they're going to need heel teams to showcase The Bucks. There's that buzz around them too. Maria is valuable as eye candy. Mike Bennett has never really impressed me as much as he does others.