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slik
01-24-2019, 10:11 AM
BREAKING




There is a very good chance that Ronda Rousey will be finishing up with WWE at WrestleMania.

If that’s the case, she would likely put Becky Lynch over more likely then Charlotte Flair at WrestleMania, given that would be what the fans would want.

There was a decent amount of talk this past week internally, since we heard it from several people, that Rousey would finish up at WrestleMania.

- Dave Meltzer

https://www.f4wonline.com/january-28-2019-observer-newsletter-future-ronda-rousey-royal-rumble-preview-more-275271

A.J.K
01-24-2019, 10:30 AM
Also read somewhere that WWE plans on a Tag Team division reboot, just like the Women's division had. To keep the Revival Happy. Also why Hawkins and Ryder are reunited.

Ol Dirty Dastard
01-24-2019, 10:56 AM
I wonder why she'd be done already. Seems rather unceremonious.

slik
01-24-2019, 10:59 AM
Diving into the Wrestling Observer newsletter and here's some more Ronda and other news





* Right now, there is no hard and firm last day, but the working idea, which has been the case since January 2018, is that Mania 2019 is the finishing date. The discussion right now is whether Mania is it, or maybe she does the PPV after Mania. We’ve been through enough Brock Lesnar situations to know that Vince McMahon, come the last week, will make great offers and change finishes to shock people, especially at WrestleMania.


* Right now the proposed top of the card for WrestleMania does not include an Undertaker match this year. That could always change as we get closer to the event. Nothing official has been decided regarding Cena, partially because nobody knows what’s going to happen with Lars Sullivan, who has been told he’s welcome back when he’s ready.


* Tickets for Royal Rumble and RAW/SDLive are not doing well. The Royal Rumble will be set up for 43,000 fans but only 25-30,000 are likely at this point. Parts of the baseball stadium will likely end up being tarped off. RAW and SD are expected to do 6-7,000 for the two nights after the Rumble. Takeover, however, looks to sell around 8-9,000 seats.


* Sonjay Dutt and Abyss are expected to work backstage in WWE for the NXT brand.

slik
01-24-2019, 01:12 PM
I thought Ronda was a big part of them getting so much money from FOX.

I speculate this means she has a multi-year deal for her likeness to be used in things like WWE2K and merch, but her in-ring deal was only 1 year.

XL
01-24-2019, 02:24 PM
I can’t see her going anywhere.

ClockShot
01-24-2019, 02:29 PM
Sounds like she was serious about wanting kids and starting a family.

slik
01-24-2019, 02:38 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Read the latest version of the Wrestling Observer Newsletter regarding Ronda Rousey...<br><br>Can’t help but think back to the <a href="https://twitter.com/ChrisVanVliet?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@ChrisVanVliet</a> interview from last year. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WWE?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WWE</a> <a href="https://t.co/3f3jZlbfcR">pic.twitter.com/3f3jZlbfcR</a></p>&mdash; Simon Cotton (@SGCspeaks) <a href="https://twitter.com/SGCspeaks/status/1088423543438757888?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 24, 2019</a></blockquote>
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slik
01-24-2019, 02:54 PM
Dave Meltzer found deceased and decredited

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Ronda Rousey Is Not Leaving WWE <a href="https://t.co/0AEsRD9VCO">https://t.co/0AEsRD9VCO</a></p>&mdash; TMZ (@TMZ) <a href="https://twitter.com/TMZ/status/1088507749913088000?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 24, 2019</a></blockquote>
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Evil Vito
01-24-2019, 03:11 PM
Swing and a miss from Dave

Bad News Gertner
01-24-2019, 04:17 PM
How is that a swing and miss? Shes probably gonna leave for a bit and come back.

Triple A
01-24-2019, 04:22 PM
Yeah the TMZ thing just cites Pro Wrestling Sheet as their source... and Pro Wrestling Sheet says that Rousey told WWE at around Survivor Series that she was going to take time off to start a family after WrestleMania... So she is gonna be out for at least a while... Also Meltzer said she will probably have a part time role like The Undertaker or something still

Evil Vito
01-24-2019, 04:22 PM
Taking a break is one thing, Dave made it sound like she'd be done outright.

Triple A
01-24-2019, 04:25 PM
Yeah he did word it weirdly... He basically said she was "finishing up" with WWE but then later says, "She will probably remain affiliated with the company afterwards. It’s certainly possible for her to have a role like Undertaker or John Cena or others where she comes back at times."

Evil Vito
01-24-2019, 04:29 PM
I always expected she'd eventually become a part-timer and just work the big shows. Frankly I thought that's what she was going to do right out of the gate so I give her credit for working close to a full schedule this past year.

slik
01-24-2019, 04:29 PM
Brad Shepard pwning Dave Meltzer again


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Oops. <a href="https://t.co/d9tXL3Zg9e">pic.twitter.com/d9tXL3Zg9e</a></p>&mdash; Brad Shepard (@TheBradShepard) <a href="https://twitter.com/TheBradShepard/status/1088511634031759362?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 24, 2019</a></blockquote>
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+ this person too

https://i.imgur.com/5hVr2vd.jpg

slik
01-24-2019, 04:30 PM
Wonder if Dave is 'humiliated' by all this tbh...

slik
01-24-2019, 04:31 PM
I like Dave

- But it's really annoying on Twitter to see people who worship everything he says/blindly defend everything like it's some weird cult of neck beardedness

Triple A
01-24-2019, 04:47 PM
Isn't "Brad Shepard" affiliated with that "Ringside News" site which is supposedly really shitty and got banned from Reddit 4 spamming + making up fake news

slik
01-24-2019, 04:53 PM
He is friends w/ that guy

Brad super annoying too but he does post some legit scoops so I let it slide, ex: Brad 100% confirms WM36 will be in Florida.

slik
01-24-2019, 05:05 PM
If Ronda is only full-time for a year it does make perfect sense why she got the belt so soon. My only fear is they will do a triple threat at WM and have Charlotte pin Becky clean now. Crowd would be 'hostile' ala Roman Reigns WM matches.

Bad News Gertner
01-24-2019, 05:35 PM
Brad Shepard pwning Dave Meltzer again


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Oops. <a href="https://t.co/d9tXL3Zg9e">pic.twitter.com/d9tXL3Zg9e</a></p>&mdash; Brad Shepard (@TheBradShepard) <a href="https://twitter.com/TheBradShepard/status/1088511634031759362?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 24, 2019</a></blockquote>
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+ this person too

https://i.imgur.com/5hVr2vd.jpg

I fail to see how this discredits Dave.

Brad spends too much time trying to "get" Meltzer.

slik
01-24-2019, 05:42 PM
Gertner good example of Cult of NeckBeardness r/n


Dave literally said she was done w/ WWE at WM and the plan was she always would be done at WM35. Later he says maybe she could come back but multiple people told him she is done at WM35 or the B show after it.

WWE then issues press release disputing and discrediting that via TMZ, a media outlet they prefer to work with often.

Rammsteinmad
01-24-2019, 05:45 PM
I really couldn't care less. I know I'm still living in 2001 but I really don't care about any of the women wrestlers. I barely care about anyone in WWE at the moment, let alone a forced-down-our-throats revolution.

slik
01-24-2019, 05:47 PM
You are not alone in that my friend.

A lot of the talent today is incredible in the ring -- but don't have a defined character/all the feuds and babyfaces are the same r/n

Fignuts
01-24-2019, 06:05 PM
Yeah some of the women are legit talented, but most of them have no direction whatsoever besides “I have a vagina”.

Becky got over on accident ffs.

Bad News Gertner
01-24-2019, 06:22 PM
Gertner good example of Cult of NeckBeardness r/n


Dave literally said she was done w/ WWE at WM and the plan was she always would be done at WM35. Later he says maybe she could come back but multiple people told him she is done at WM35 or the B show after it.

WWE then issues press release disputing and discrediting that via TMZ, a media outlet they prefer to work with often.

Lol of course they are going to do that. They are going to have another Lesnar/Goldberg situation if they don't.

I'm willing to bet she leaves after Wrestlemania and probably won't be back for a long time.

slik
01-24-2019, 06:31 PM
I agree w/ you Gertner

I think she'll be back...but if she leaves to have a kid, no way we'll see her for at least a year and a half.

Bad News Gertner
01-24-2019, 06:47 PM
Exactly. Lol if others did the same we wouldn't have so many guys being stale as fuck.

Emperor Smeat
01-24-2019, 08:11 PM
Been pretty much an open secret since maybe last year's Mania that Ronda never had any real plans to be a full-timer in the WWE. She wanted to be a wrestler after her career in UFC was over because she's a big fan of wrestling but also as something to do before settling down to start a family.

If I had to guess, she probably takes a break till SummerSlam or right before the next NFL season starts since FOX will likely want her around to help promote Smackdown's move to their network. Any longer of a break and I could see FOX get somewhat upset since they made the tv deal under the assumption Ronda would be around for Smackdown's debut on their network.

RP
01-24-2019, 09:40 PM
I hope Ronda does not go. I really like her. Her promo's need a bit of a fine trim, but her in ring work is amazing. I actually cant wait for her and Sasha to go at it.

xrodmuc316
01-24-2019, 10:24 PM
Ronda has said outright that she has never had this much fun in her life. She is I believe only 31, so it's not like biologically she is out of time. There is still big money in the horsewomen feud, as well as the follow-up when the other 3 turn on her. Shayna vs Ronda feud would be really good, as they could amp up the physicality.

Ronda might take time off, become part time, or go on maternity leave, but she isn't leaving WWE.

RP
01-24-2019, 10:39 PM
31 might not seem biologically out of time, but she's put her body through a lot. She may want to be able to play with her children as they grow up. You add up all her training and real fights and WWE bumps and her body has taken a toll. I think it probably counts when you raise a child late in life.

Ol Dirty Dastard
01-24-2019, 11:12 PM
Dave Meltzer is the WWE of dirtsheets. Always catching flack, but he's unrivaled in his success.

Mr. Nerfect
01-25-2019, 02:21 AM
Yeah, I don’t see anything “owning” Dave. Sounds like Ronda might be taking some time.

Fignuts
01-25-2019, 02:27 AM
He gets it right, like 90% of the time, but when he gets something wrong its this big "gotcha" moment and everyone acts like everything he says is wrong.

Dude can fuck off with that +5 stars shit though.

Bad News Gertner
01-25-2019, 02:31 AM
Exactly

Emperor Smeat
01-25-2019, 04:08 AM
According to Meltzer, WWE might consider "freezing" Ronda's contract if she does end up taking a break for whatever reason. Right now her deal currently expires in April 2021.

Mr. Nerfect
01-25-2019, 07:52 AM
I think the decision is going to be amicable. I can see her taking a few months off for a “re-launch” closer to the FOX jump.

Jordan
01-25-2019, 12:00 PM
I think the decision is going to be amicable. I can see her taking a few months off for a “re-launch” closer to the FOX jump.

Yes I agree. Also I just want to point out that it's so amazing how Ronda showed up at The Rumble and at this point is one of the best workers in the division. Her growth was incredible. If I were WWE I'd do whatever I could to keep her around in the future even if that means giving her a rest for now.

Bad News Gertner
03-06-2019, 11:23 PM
So when will Brad Shepard be sucking Meltzer's left nut

xrodmuc316
03-07-2019, 03:05 AM
I am sorry, but Meltzer just makes educated guesses, is wrong more times than not, then just says that things changed. That does not make him any more of an insider than anybody else.

Bad News Gertner
03-07-2019, 09:22 AM
That is not REMOTELY true

#1-norm-fan
03-07-2019, 10:58 AM
Meltzer is definitely wrong more often than not if you just ignore the hits and overhype the “misses”. Which is what a lot of people like to do.

#1-norm-fan
03-07-2019, 11:02 AM
Dave Meltzer is the WWE of dirtsheets. Always catching flack, but he's unrivaled in his success.

Nah. WWE’s flack is deserved regardless of financial success/lack of serious competitors. It’s clear where the hate for them comes from. The Meltzer hate is odd.

Bad News Gertner
03-07-2019, 11:24 AM
I dont get why people get so upset about his star ratings. It's literally just one persons opinion of a wrestling match. It's no different than you or I giving our opinion, but people get so bloody upset about his opinion. It's ridiculous when you stop and think about it.

Bad News Gertner
03-07-2019, 11:27 AM
Like I Love JBL. He's my favourite wrestler of all time. Now if someone says a match of his sucks, it's fine because we all dont have the same tastes, plus wrestling is subjective. It's such a dumb thing to get upset about.


And I'm definitely not denying that Dave gets stuff wrong. My favourite podcast (Between the Sheets) picks a year corresponding with whatever week it currently is and goes through the dirt sheets and talks about what happened, didnt happen, etc.... Dave gets some whoppers wrong. Currently listening to 1988 feb.27-mar.5 and Meltzer is talking about DiBiase being the guy who's winning the title at WM4 lol

slik
03-07-2019, 11:34 AM
I like Dave Meltzer.

Brad can be super annoying but he does he get some scoops too.

Bad News Gertner
03-07-2019, 11:36 AM
Oh for sure. Nailed the Wrestlemania location.

Seanny One Ball
03-07-2019, 12:17 PM
Dave Meltzer is like a bottle of Coke with a little smear of shit on the cap.

It stinks but I want what's inside so I'm opening it anyway.

Evil Vito
03-07-2019, 02:02 PM
Dave Meltzer is like a bottle of Coke with a little smear of shit on the cap.

It stinks but I want what's inside so I'm opening it anyway.

If you tried experimenting with sticking something other than a Coke bottle up your bunghole, this wouldn't even be a problem.

owenbrown
03-07-2019, 02:26 PM
Like I Love JBL. He's my favourite wrestler of all time. Now if someone says a match of his sucks, it's fine because we all dont have the same tastes, plus wrestling is subjective. It's such a dumb thing to get upset about.


And I'm definitely not denying that Dave gets stuff wrong. My favourite podcast (Between the Sheets) picks a year corresponding with whatever week it currently is and goes through the dirt sheets and talks about what happened, didnt happen, etc.... Dave gets some whoppers wrong. Currently listening to 1988 feb.27-mar.5 and Meltzer is talking about DiBiase being the guy who's winning the title at WM4 lol

To be fair, DiBiase should have been WWF champion at least once

Bad News Gertner
03-07-2019, 02:35 PM
I dont think DiBiase needed the belt

Seanny One Ball
03-07-2019, 03:31 PM
If you tried experimenting with sticking something other than a Coke bottle up your bunghole, this wouldn't even be a problem.


I don't have to put anything anywhere near my arse to get shit on it.

Not to brag...

#1-norm-fan
03-07-2019, 07:21 PM
I dont think DiBiase needed the belt

I hate the idea that people shouldn’t win the belt because they don’t NEED it. Most over guys don’t NEED the belt. You put it on them to make it mean something. Otherwise you end up with titles that no one cares about because you’re throwing them on guys who don’t amount to anything. Like WWE has done since the brand split.

#1-norm-fan
03-07-2019, 07:25 PM
Like... Brock sure as hell doesn’t NEED the belt. But if you wanna drive home the point that it’s something worth winning, why would you not put it on him?

Bad News Gertner
03-07-2019, 07:31 PM
Brock doesn't either and really shouldn't.

slik
03-07-2019, 07:56 PM
Ronda isn't booked for any shows WWE is advertising post-WM so far.

She's going to be on Total Divas, but I have no idea when that films.

#1-norm-fan
03-07-2019, 08:01 PM
Brock doesn't either and really shouldn't.

The title needs Brock. Put it on lesser guys and it’s a lesser prize.

#1-norm-fan
03-07-2019, 08:01 PM
Didn’t even try to make that rhyme. Badass.

Fignuts
03-07-2019, 09:09 PM
Brock as champion would work better in a company like NJPW where the entire structure is based around much fewer title defenses.

In WWE's fast paced enviornment, with weekly tv and 15 ppv's a year, it just doesn't have the effect that fan is talking about for me.

Brock having the belt doesn't make me care about it more. It just makes me not care.

Emperor Smeat
03-07-2019, 09:19 PM
Ronda isn't booked for any shows WWE is advertising post-WM so far.

She's going to be on Total Divas, but I have no idea when that films.

She's also not scheduled for any more house shows after next week or two.

I'd assume if not now, then within the next couple of weeks in order to get stuff for Mania based on past taping routines.

Seanny One Ball
03-07-2019, 09:20 PM
Disney should buy her image rights.

Ronda Mousey

Shit writes itself.

#1-norm-fan
03-07-2019, 10:54 PM
Brock as champion would work better in a company like NJPW where the entire structure is based around much fewer title defenses.

In WWE's fast paced enviornment, with weekly tv and 15 ppv's a year, it just doesn't have the effect that fan is talking about for me.

Brock having the belt doesn't make me care about it more. It just makes me not care.

I think that speaks more against WWE producing too much “A-level” content than Brock not being around every week. I’d rather the champion be credible and used as a special attraction than be on TV every week, losing non-title matches constantly and making it look like anyone can be champion.

Emperor Smeat
03-08-2019, 12:03 AM
Brock as champion would work better in a company like NJPW where the entire structure is based around much fewer title defenses.

In WWE's fast paced enviornment, with weekly tv and 15 ppv's a year, it just doesn't have the effect that fan is talking about for me.

Brock having the belt doesn't make me care about it more. It just makes me not care.

Pretty much all due to WWE's poor handling of Lesnar and the Universal belt itself. Lensar comes off as just a lazy crutch for Creative and the belt has almost no prestige because its been neglected way too much.

Had they kept the "Final Boss" aura he had for a while, then all you really need is for him to just show up at monthly PPV events to maintain the mystic of his appearances. Use the weekly tv time to build up his challengers into worthy and credible threats while having Heyman remind those foolish enough of their impending doom.

Instead they just half-assed things like they always do and then wonder afterwards why people stop caring about Lesnar and the belt. Same for the lack of big stars they have made using the belt.

Seanny One Ball
03-08-2019, 11:37 AM
I said Ronda Mousey you bitches

slik
03-08-2019, 01:09 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Ronda video is so dumb.<br><br>Doesn't help attract new fans and Doesn't help retain current fans. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WWE?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WWE</a> <a href="https://t.co/YlN13dzk0L">pic.twitter.com/YlN13dzk0L</a></p>&mdash; Kenton (@Kenton_la) <a href="https://twitter.com/Kenton_la/status/1104031571521298432?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 8, 2019</a></blockquote>
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slik
03-08-2019, 01:13 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I’m not a great person <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/raw?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#raw</a> <a href="https://t.co/OH3ed6z1aZ">pic.twitter.com/OH3ed6z1aZ</a></p>&mdash; Matt Fowler (@TheMattFowler) <a href="https://twitter.com/TheMattFowler/status/1090088000732712960?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 29, 2019</a></blockquote>
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Gerard
03-08-2019, 02:24 PM
<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/fsy_0JSWxck" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Aww, she's so cute when she's trying to act like its real. :lol: (last minute or 2 of the vid)

erickman
03-08-2019, 02:35 PM
that's the ronda we needed 8 months ago

Black Widow
03-08-2019, 02:59 PM
I liked her but actually saying it's fake is just so Eugene.

Mr. Nerfect
03-10-2019, 11:04 PM
I dont get why people get so upset about his star ratings. It's literally just one persons opinion of a wrestling match. It's no different than you or I giving our opinion, but people get so bloody upset about his opinion. It's ridiculous when you stop and think about it.

People can’t tell the difference between a journalism and a journalist’s opinion. To differentiate that becomes too hard and scary. Meltzer makes a lot of guesses, but he says when they are guesses. When he “knows” something, it’s very different. And he undoubtedly gets a lot of info, and people just ignore that because it isn’t convenient, yet put weight on things that he didn’t even claim to know.

One that always comes to mind is the Fingerpoke of Doom. Meltzer was reporting that there was a plan between Bischoff, Hogan and Nash to put the belt on Goldberg, move it to Nash and then have Nash hand it to Hogan in, like, June ‘98. Nash says shit like “I wasn’t even the booker” and Bischoff says Meltz doesn’t know anything. Yet look what fucking happened.

You don’t get to play the “this guy knows nothing” card when someone clearly knows something.

Pretty much all due to WWE's poor handling of Lesnar and the Universal belt itself. Lensar comes off as just a lazy crutch for Creative and the belt has almost no prestige because its been neglected way too much.

Had they kept the "Final Boss" aura he had for a while, then all you really need is for him to just show up at monthly PPV events to maintain the mystic of his appearances. Use the weekly tv time to build up his challengers into worthy and credible threats while having Heyman remind those foolish enough of their impending doom.

Instead they just half-assed things like they always do and then wonder afterwards why people stop caring about Lesnar and the belt. Same for the lack of big stars they have made using the belt.

WWE actively tell you that you should be bored of Brock’s title reign. It’s insanity. Instead of hyping him up as the defining icon of this era, they have their “heroes” slag off his work ethic. You know when he does work? When he suplexes these “heroes” all over the ring, after they’ve called him a coward, proving that he’s absolutely not, making no one look good. Your faces are full of shit, and Brock is “boring.”

Great job, WWE!