Joker (2019)

[slik]

This looks amazing


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Put on a happy face. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/JokerMovie?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#JokerMovie</a> - in theaters October 4. <a href="https://t.co/TxF3Jqxjjr">pic.twitter.com/TxF3Jqxjjr</a></p>&mdash; Joker Movie (@jokermovie) <a href="https://twitter.com/jokermovie/status/1113425942574034945?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 3, 2019</a></blockquote>
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[Lock Jaw]

Looks very interesting for sure

[slik]

Taxi Driver esque

[Lock Jaw]

Love the way this is cut, with the music and sound effects, etc.

Very good.

[Lock Jaw]

Has he always been so freakishly skinny or did he do that for this

[slik]

IDK, I think maybe?

[Seanny One Ball]

Troubled production history... could be bad.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Count me in after the trailer. Very interested to see how this plays out.

[rez]

I didn't like the makeup at first but after watching the trailer...I'm down wit the clown

[mitchables]

seems fine i guess

idk, i want to be excited for it, and i see a lot of people being all on board after watching the trailer but i'm not really any more or less interested in this for having seen these couple of minutes of footage

[El Vaquero de Infierno]

Since the get-go, this film has not particularly interested me, and the trailer has done nothing to change that.

[Lock Jaw]

Opposite effect for me. I was pretty "meh, whatever" about everything, but now that trailer has me hype.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

I'm interested to see how Phoenix does. Liked what I saw in the trailer and I'm typically a fan of his. Also want to see where they go with this. It looks interesting enough and far more intriguing than the Leto joker we got in suicide squad.

But it could be a total bomb and complete miss by the director and his team. Which would be a shame since Wonder Woman, Aquaman and Shazam have started to help right the ship for DC movies.

[RP]

I thought the trailer was really well done. I'm on the fence because I cant tell where this movie is going. I doubt they make Joker out to be a sympathetic character. But the trailer shows a lot of that. I'm thinking there is a fuckton more to this movie and we're being a bit mislead. I could be wrong. I got a Rob Zombie ( directed movies ) type feel to this movie. A sick, dark dude. I think this movie might be really dark and i'm ok with it.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

I think they'll be some natural sympathy to his character if it's going the route I think it is. The Killing Joke is beloved, and it sympathized Joker's character. It didn't make the story any less effective.

We'll see. It's got people talking, and not in a "this looks shit" sort of way, so that's a good start.

[EIWF]

After so man duds, lets hope DC are getting things right. Im not a fan of someone different playing the same character so close to someone else. I guess you grow up with 'your' version of the character and associate that one as the best.

Didn't like how Spiderman got re-booted....then rebooted again.

[Rammsteinmad]

Looks meh to me. Heath Ledger's portrayal of the Joker was absolutely incredible, and a whole new level of acting. But otherwise, I've never really been massively into the character and always thought he was a bit overrated.

[Frank Drebin]

Yeah, no one was gonna beat Jack Nicholson's Joker before Dark Knight came out either.

Different portrayals. Ledger's Joker wasn't the kind that would bust into a room dancing to "Party Man". Doesn't mean one was better than the other.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

looks good to me. Seems you need to be a full-on snob/hater/derp not to at least be enticed by that trailer. Joaquin Phoenix is a fantastic actor. Not the same a weiner-boy jared leto.

[RP]

If you dont like something Dale like, you must be a full-on snob/hater or derp.

Classic Dale Newstead happening here.

[Lock Jaw]

https://images-cdn.9gag.com/photo/arGBPgp_700b.jpg

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

If you dont like something Dale like, you must be a full-on snob/hater or derp.

Classic Dale Newstead happening here.

I'm glad to see we've come to an understanding. Proud of u big guy.

[RP]

Dale Newstead : " If you're not Jew, you're not pure ".

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

the Jewrian Race.

[Lock Jaw]

Glad I am on Dale's team so I don't have to worry

[OssMan]

Lost respect for nearly everyone in this thread

[Lock Jaw]

Even me, Lock Jaw?

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Lost respect for nearly everyone in this thread

i didn't have any respect for you in the first place so this works out.

[Seanny One Ball]

It doesn't look particularly good to me.

Joaquin Phoenix is eternally brilliant and I admire him so if it is good I will be delighted.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

It doesn't look particularly good to me.

Joaquin Phoenix is eternally brilliant and I admire him so if it is good I will be delighted.

punk

[Helmsphere]

All I can keep thinking is why are people constantly beating up on this clown?

[WrestleRacer91]

That looks awesome. I feel the need to see that in theaters...and that's something I rarely do. #Joker2019

[KIRA]

I kept thinking this looks like Taxi Driver
So I go look up the people behind this thing and.....yeah

[penak]

Looks very interestinghttps://juragan.club/assets/5/o.png

[slik]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">New trailer. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/JokerMovie?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#JokerMovie</a> - in theaters October 4. �� this tweet to be the first to hear about exclusive content leading up to opening weekend. <a href="https://t.co/dMdLZIjzwz">pic.twitter.com/dMdLZIjzwz</a></p>&mdash; Joker Movie (@jokermovie) <a href="https://twitter.com/jokermovie/status/1166742248949551104?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 28, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[GD]

Noice!

[rez]

Looks amazing

[mitchables]

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[mitchables]

i dunno man i just feel like this is taxi driver/falling down in clown make-up

[Damian Rey 2.0]

It looks great. Hope so badly that it's good. Need this after Godzilla turned out to be a turd.

[GD]

I find it amusing that it is getting a 70mm release although it’s shot digitally. I have high expectations from this project.

[El Vaquero de Infierno]

I'm still not feeling it.

[mitchables]

i just

i don't know who this is for

[Damian Rey 2.0]

i just

i don't know who this is for

Me. It's for me.

[mitchables]

but you already have fight club to misunderstand, do you really need this too

[Fignuts]

i dunno man i just feel like this is taxi driver/falling down in clown make-up

https://i.imgur.com/KfnU2yA.png

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

i dunno man i just feel like this is taxi driver/falling down in clown make-up

not nec. a bad thing.

[OssMan]

i just

i don't know who this is for
It's about a straight white guy who thinks the world treats him unfairly, is it really that hard to figure out the intended audience

[slik]

A lot of H8rs in here

This is for people who like the character 'The Joker' told via Taxi-Driver esque setting

[slik]

I wish all movies were set in like 1980

Love the aesthetic

[JimmyMess]

I hope it is successful, but I am just in the "I don't care about this" boat.

[slik]

I will see it opening night, hope lots of people do and SD's debut on FOX tanks

Love some Daniel Day-Lewis

[Frank Drebin]

It's about a straight white guy who thinks the world treats him unfairly, is it really that hard to figure out the intended audience

The movie doesn't appear woke enough for you. Got it.

[Destor]

#notmyjoker #makejokeraclownofcolor

[Sixx]

It's about a straight white guy who thinks the world treats him unfairly, is it really that hard to figure out the intended audience

You're such a bitch.

[OssMan]

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[Frank Drebin]

Another white Joker. Am I right Ossman? These honkeys and their cultural appropriation....

[Seanny One Ball]

Honkies don't know shit about shit

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Rotten Tomatoes has this sitting at 86% with 22 reviews in. All but 3 positive. The excitement builds.

[ClockShot]

Metacritic giving it a 75 right now.

Great reviews right now from everybody except from critics from TIME and Vanity Fair. That's why it's down a bit.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Roger Ebert guy had a bad review as well. Based on the excerpt used for RT, I can tell I won't like anything he writes.

[Fignuts]

It's about a straight white guy who thinks the world treats him unfairly, is it really that hard to figure out the intended audience

https://imgshare.io/images/2019/08/31/FA53B133-041B-4F16-9914-E85796168667.png

[Frank Drebin]

Yeah. But you do need to be woke af.

[Destor]

If joker isnt a pansexual asian genderqueer america is racist

[OssMan]

Remember when this chick got death threats for suggesting joker should be a girl

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Joker should have been a woman. And she finally went insane because too many random dudes told her to smile, so now she perpetually smiles while terrorizing Gotham.</p>&mdash; Geraldine (@everywhereist) <a href="https://twitter.com/everywhereist/status/1134645039076823040?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 1, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Destor]

Stunning and brave

[Frank Drebin]

"Look at this tweet. I'm a safe space."

-ossman

[Sixx]

Come and think of it, every superhero/super bad guy should be a woman.

Black and gay preferably. So we don't live in a world full of hate.

[Frank Drebin]

Gay is soooooo 1993. It's all about being one of the other 31 sexes we never knew about until a bunch of 22 year olds figured it out for the rest of us.

[Destor]

Being gay i biggot toward trans women anyhow.

[Splaya]

IGN gave this a 10/10

[slik]

Remember when this chick got death threats for suggesting joker should be a girl

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There is an alternate universe in DC where Bruce Wayne died and his dad went on to become Batman and his mom went insane and became the Joker


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[Frank Drebin]

But is she trans?

Not woke enough.

[mitchables]

IGN gave this a 10/10

and only mentioned society 31 times

[mitchables]

jokes aside, i would actually be happy if this film is good. not like i am willing it to fail here

i remain genuinely mystified by its existence but am glad that early reception seems to be overwhelmingly positive

[RP]

Joker movie is clearly a training video for domestic white terrorist.

[Destor]

Yeah and theyre all gonna go into stand up

[Lock Jaw]

Still interested in this.... second trailer was not "as good" as the first in selling me, I think....

[Lock Jaw]

Just saw, and got infuriated by, this headline to an article: "Why Joker Is Sparking a Backlash Over Its Portrayal of Incel Violence"

[ClockShot]

Joker wins the Golden Lion (top prize) at the Venice Film Festival.

[Destor]

Im thinking about going to see this today but i also dont wanna get out today

[RP]

Just try not to buy an AR and kill everyone afterwards. Unless you're black. If you're black, you should be fine.

[RP]

I want to see Joker today, but just the thought of buying the ticket awakens my white rage. I listened to Nickelback on a loop all night last night. I dont think I should leave the house.

[RP]

I think i'll wait for a much safer movie for me to see in public. I'll wait for Bird of Prey. Pale white females throwing bombs from cars and shooting cops, does not get my white man rage boiling at much...because they are white and... female.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Seeing it Monday. Very excited.

[slik]

I loved it

[Seanny One Ball]

Joaquin Phoenix could reasonably be a multiple Oscar winner by now, I hope he gets a few eventually because he's just great.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Don't think he wants one. Pretty sure he hates the academy.

[Seanny One Ball]

That's his prerogative but his fans should be allowed to see him honoured.
George Scott might not have wanted one but his name sits in the list like all the others.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

lol not that Rotten Tomatoes has much credibility anymore, but I find it funny that the rating for the movie dropped about 15 or 16 percentage points after Todd Phillips spoke out against Woke culture.

[GD]

Vice

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/a354wj/joker-todd-phillip-movie-2019-reviews

[Seanny One Ball]

I don't think I even know what woke culture is

[Destor]

Films good. By no meansa masterpiece (a phrase that has been thrown around a bit too much imo) but would definitely recommend it

[slik]

The media acting like this is the first movie with guns in it and the first movie that is dark is fucking ridiculous.

[Destor]

Its not half as violent as the trailers were. Less guns too.

[Destor]

Film had a 55mil budget (premarketing) and is already at 40mil. If it doesnt this weekend then by the end of nextweek it will be in the black (including marketing)

[Damian Rey 2.0]

It's tracking for $80m opening weekend

[Damian Rey 2.0]

lol not that Rotten Tomatoes has much credibility anymore, but I find it funny that the rating for the movie dropped about 15 or 16 percentage points after Todd Phillips spoke out against Woke culture.

That's because people who are both in the woke culture and happen to be published film critics submitted their woke reviews and dragged the score down.

[Destor]

It's tracking for $80m opening weekend
Marketing is likely betwee 20 and 35 mil. So if its high end they won't hit profits until Saturday next week. If its low end theyll see profits on sunday

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Word of mouth is going to carry this film. Gonna be a big hit for WB.

[slik]

agreed

when I look over social media the reviews from people watching are really positive overall, lots of "you have to see this" type comments

[Destor]

Agreed. I think the week 2 drop off for this will be much smaller than the average and id expect it to stay steady for several weeks

[Damian Rey 2.0]

It's already gonna clear $240m globally. This is a smash hit for Warner. And hopefully continues to push them in the directing of allowing their filmmakers artistic freedom.

[Ruien]

What is woke culture?

[Destor]

People who worship intersectionality

[slik]

What is woke culture?

At some point over the last few years it's shifted from people who were aware of discrimination to people obsessed with finding discrimination of some sort in practically everything

[Seanny One Ball]

What is woke culture?

rHLtI4ktbM0

[Damian Rey 2.0]

At some point over the last few years it's shifted from people who were aware of discrimination to people obsessed with finding discrimination of some sort in practically everything

My favorite are white people on Twitter trying to tell me, a Hispanic male who's faced discrimination and racism his entire life, how and why I should be offended by things that are not offensive.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

lol Damo, I totally thought you were a fellow cracker. I've seen pics of you but it never computed. #Racist

[Seanny One Ball]

He's more Martin Sheen than Danny Trejo that's for sure

[Seanny One Ball]

Jesus Fucking Christ Danny Trejo is 75

[Destor]

Spoke with a normie today. He hated joker. As far as i can tell he expected an action film. He walked out on the 2nd act.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Joker-9/10

I got what I expected and more. This movie does not try to promote, glorify or justify a triggered individual with mental health issues going over the edge. It is a dark, grim, hopeless and brutal 2 hour film about a man with a start to life so tragic, you realize he never had any real chance to be more than what he is.

The opening scene sets the tone for the film, and it's unforgiving from there. The first time we see Arthur jumped, you do feel a sense of pity for him. He's clearly mentally challenged and not an inherently bad man. When Arthur gets a taste of his first kill, you can see the gears in his head start to wind. The character goes from being pitiful and, to a point, sympathetic, to a slow decent into madness after seeing that his first murder is what makes him feel noticed.

The descent into madness is not immediate however. He does not go on some murderous spree immediately after. Instead, the film takes its time, setting up several series of events that both are a revelation to the viewer and to Arthur himself, the final one being the tipping point.

Arthur learns of true past. At least as true as the film would allow, and that, as the 3rd act begins, is the final step in Arthur embracing and becoming the Joker. He becomes unhinged, but calculating. His actions are not without merit, from his pov, and they are not senseless in that the kills relate to the story that came before them.

In the end, I walked out having enjoyed the movie. But it is not a fun movie. It is a contrast to the Dark Knight, where a hero sacrifices himself to take the fall for the betterment of his city, and in doing so, instills hope in the future of Gotham. Joker instead only promises a bleak, grim era of the city that, given the theme of the oppressed uprising, is only going to get worse.

Joaquin Phoenix is magnetic. Like any small scale Phoenix film, he's virtually in every single scene, and he owns every frame. The character's progression to several bad days, feeling depressed and hopeless, to embracing and relishing in the Joker persona, is top notch work from him. I would hope he gets an Oscar nod.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Spoke with a normie today. He hated joker. As far as i can tell he expected an action film. He walked out on the 2nd act.

He deserved to be disappointed. It would've taken all of 5 minutes to research the style of film.

[Destor]

He deserved to be disappointed. It would've taken all of 5 minutes to research the style of film.id say its a failure of the marketing team. Its not the consumers job to research. Some people arent plugged in and they dont have to be


In any case i found it interesting what a joe blow average movie goer was left with. Moreover the struggle it will be for comic films to transend into more than just blockbusters

[Damian Rey 2.0]

It wasn't marketed as an action film either.

My buddy is an average film goer and thought it was mediocre.

[Destor]

Cinemaphiles love it at least

[Damian Rey 2.0]

I've heard mostly good things from other average movie goers. It's making a killing at that box office. Interested to see what kind of legs it has.

[Droford]

That's because people who are both in the woke culture and happen to be published film critics submitted their woke reviews and dragged the score down.

The best ones are the ones that basically say you can replace Joaquin Phoenix with Donald Trump

“At the end of the movie, a triumphant Fleck — seemingly dead, but magically revived by the cheers of a throng of clown-masked rioters — does a grotesque soft-shoe on top of a shattered cop car, literally dancing on the destroyed remains of the rule of law,” Yang concludes. “Imagine Fleck as Trump, shrugging off impeachment, rebounding with his roaring red-hatted supporters, winning reelection against every prediction and probability.”

[El Vaquero de Infierno]

I'm going to see it on Sunday.

I didn't have much interest towards the film on the run-up to its release, but all the good press from the far-leftie crowd makes me want to go see it.

[GD]

Vice has gone down the drain :nono:

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[Triple A]

I liked it. Mostly was really enjoyable but some parts felt corny 2 me, like when he was talking on the talk show and was all "I'm a mentally ill loner,,," and when all the clown mask guys were cheering and stuff around him at the end

Joaquin Phoenix is amazing and it is really fun to watch him in anything. Love him

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Vice has gone down the drain :nono:

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This guy should never post another film review ever again. This was embarrassing.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

I liked it. Mostly was really enjoyable but some parts felt corny 2 me, like when he was talking on the talk show and was all "I'm a mentally ill loner,,," and when all the clown mask guys were cheering and stuff around him at the end

Joaquin Phoenix is amazing and it is really fun to watch him in anything. Love him

I thought the end where the rioters all surround him and cheer for him was an amazing shot. Especially when he embraces them.

[Triple A]

How much of the movie was an original story and how much is "from the comic books"?

Like does he go on the talk show and stuff in the comic books?

[Damian Rey 2.0]

There are references yes. His revelation about where he really comes from is a nod in that the Joker has always been an enigma. The failed comedian bit is straight outta The Killing Joke. And in The Dark Knight Returns, he does go on a tv show posing as a reformed version of himself before, if I recall correctly, gassing the audience.

But like the Nolan films, the movie is its own thing. Takes some nods to the source material but an original take on it.

[Triple A]

What about thinking Thomas Wayne was his dad? Is that "canon"

And also Thomas Wayne's death... don't remember if he was just killed by random "hooligans" or if Joker's "henchmen" had anything to do with it in other versions

[Damian Rey 2.0]

The Waynes are killed for different reasons in each film series. Thomas wasn't hinted at being Joker's dad in any storyline that I know of.

God, Thomas Wayne was suchan asshole in this movie. There's literally one likeable character, and it's a pre teen boy who gets to watch his parents die. Again.

[Triple A]

I liked it. Mostly was really enjoyable but some parts felt corny 2 me, like when he was talking on the talk show and was all "I'm a mentally ill loner,,," and when all the clown mask guys were cheering and stuff around him at the end

nvm just realized the end with the clown mask guys was another hallucination...

Movie was really cool upon reflecting on it today! Feel like watching it again

[Loose Cannon]

Movie was an A++++. absolutely loved it.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

nvm just realized the end with the clown mask guys was another hallucination...

Movie was really cool upon reflecting on it today! Feel like watching it again

I don't think that ending was a hallucination at all.

[Triple A]

Hmmm I guess it is ambiguous

I'm basing that on him being in the insane asylum in the next scene... if he was really freed by the clowns somehow, how'd he end up there? I guess he got arrested later? Why cut to that scene immediately?

But I guess if I think that, that also calls a bunch of other stuff into question, like if he actually appeared on the talk show, etc.

Maybe that stuff happened, but it was being told from his "warped perspective," making him come off as a "hero"

Just feel like the "cheering disciples" thing at the end didn't feel consistent with the "realistic" feeling of the rest of the movie, but did feel similar to the other scenes that were in his head, where he's cool and confident and people love him

[GD]

This might help

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[Evil Vito]

Gonna check this out over the weekend.

[Lock Jaw]

Saw it today..... yeah. @ the ending.... me and my friend had a discussion on whether it was hallucination or not..... I can't really say either way.... mad ambiguous.....

[Blue Demon]

Finally got around to seeing it tonight. I liked it....it's super dark, and I like how they tied Joker and Batman down the road somewhere coming to blows. It was a good performance by Phoenix and he definitely deserves an Oscar nod.

[Destor]

Marketing is likely betwee 20 and 35 mil. So if its high end they won't hit profits until Saturday next week. If its low end theyll see profits on sunday
Was just a tad off here. Marketing was 120 million (lol wut?) but it clearly paid off (pun intended) as Joker is set to have higher profit margins than infinity war when its all said and done.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

It's also taking the top box office spot back after getting bumped last week.