The Batman (2021)

[slik]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Robert Pattinson to play &quot;The Batman&quot; for Matt Reeves and Warner Bros. (EXCLUSIVE) <a href="https://t.co/hgH5WlxD2H">https://t.co/hgH5WlxD2H</a> <a href="https://t.co/AqXwTVmTzo">pic.twitter.com/AqXwTVmTzo</a></p>&mdash; Variety (@Variety) <a href="https://twitter.com/Variety/status/1129186858691260417?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 17, 2019</a></blockquote>
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[mitchables]

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[Lock Jaw]

Obligatory "WORST BATMAN EVER!!!" post

[slik]

I think he'll be fine tbh.

From what I have seen him in (no, I have never seen Twilight) he seems like a good actor.

[mitchables]

i mean i'm not saying that i think he'll be "the worst batman ever" or anything. history has taught me to know better than to make sweeping judgments on castings before you see them in the role, no matter what you think of the actor

but my reflexive reaction is def "...him?"

[slik]

I would lol if they cast Kristen Stewart as Catwoman

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Well....we shall see. I wasn't pumped for Affleck and ended up feeling he was easily the best part of BvS so.....here's hoping.

[Frank Drebin]

Maybe they just hired him to show him the disappearing pencil trick.

[Lock Jaw]

i mean i'm not saying that i think he'll be "the worst batman ever" or anything. history has taught me to know better than to make sweeping judgments on castings before you see them in the role, no matter what you think of the actor

but my reflexive reaction is def "...him?"

Pretty much this, yeah

[Rammsteinmad]

I find it hilariously tragic that they're still actually trying to go through with this movie.

[Fignuts]

Wonder if Batman will sparkle in the moonlight.

[XL]

Oh.

[slik]

Matt Reeves did a great job directing and/or writing Cloverfield, Dawn Of The Planet Of The Apes & War Of The Planet Of The Apes so I have lots of faith in this.

[rez]

I wish this were a Batman Beyond movie..

No probs with Pattinson.

I need me some Michael Keaton as old man Bruce.

[Seanny One Ball]

I can dig it

[Damian Rey 2.0]

I find it hilariously tragic that they're still actually trying to go through with this movie.

Why?

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Matt Reeves did a great job directing and/or writing Cloverfield, Dawn Of The Planet Of The Apes & War Of The Planet Of The Apes so I have lots of faith in this.

Love the 2nd and 3rd Apes movies. He also did Let Me In, which was a remake but a damn good one. I think he's going to do great. Hopefully they start filming soon.

[Seanny One Ball]

They neutered a masterpiece when they remade "Let The Right One In" as a teeny bopper flick and had the balls to alter the double meaning of the title.
Unforgivable.

I didn't mind it so much at first and then I rewatched "Let The Right One In" which is as polished a gothic romance as there will ever be in this century.

I'm still mad about it.

[OverTaker]

I need me some Michael Keaton as old man Bruce.

Is this gonna happen?

[Frank Drebin]

Whoever plays Batman should just get voiced over by Kevin Conway.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

They neutered a masterpiece when they remade "Let The Right One In" as a teeny bopper flick and had the balls to alter the double meaning of the title.
Unforgivable.

I didn't mind it so much at first and then I rewatched "Let The Right One In" which is as polished a gothic romance as there will ever be in this century.

I'm still mad about it.

Agree to disagree. Loved the remake. It's not Let the Right One In but it was never going to be.

[Lock Jaw]

Rumored villains are Penguin and Catwoman.... and maybe like 6 or 7 others.

[Seanny One Ball]

Apparently it's going to focus more on the investigative part of the Batman M.O

So that sounds cool. I want to see gadgets and sleuthing punctuated by brief and effective vigilantism.
Make it more Man From Uncle than Winter Soldier though, a bit of a Mission Impossible style would be nice.

Take it back to the 60's and 70's.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

I like that idea. Takes him in a different direction than we've seen.

[ClockShot]

Robert Pattinson?

Damn. Last I saw him was in Lost City of Z. And he's done some other low level indie flicks since then it seems.

How'd he pop on DC's radar for the role?

[Seanny One Ball]

By being a fine actor with the added bonus of absolutely huge name value and marketability off the back of his participation in the biggest franchise aimed at fluttery eyed young girls ever.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

And he's handsome. Gotta be handsome.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Pattinson has been in 8 films that are 60% or better on rotten tomatoes since the last twilight film as opposed to only one rotten film. Not bad.

[Seanny One Ball]

He had done all of the right things to progress from teen heartthrob to serious actor. I respect the work ethic.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

As do I. Smart really. Used two large franchises as a platform to getting better work. And now he's Batman.

[Luigi]

I hope I'm wrong and I usually like to keep an open mind about things, but I don't think that this is going to be very successful. Following in the footsteps of the Dark Knight trilogies is going to be an extremely tall order, and I just can't see Pattinson being able to take the torch from Christian Bale.

[RP]

Pattinson lights my torch.

[Luigi]

Pattinson lights my torch.


Pattinson is a good actor no doubt, but I can't see him being able to duplicate Christian Bale's success. If it was up to me, the entire Batman franchise would be put to rest for the next 20-25 years. The Dark Knight trilogies was so epic, that you can't just make a new Batman a few short years later.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Bale's Batman was great because of team behind it, not just because of Bale. Reeves is an accomplished director and seems to have a very firm idea of what he wants to do with the character. I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt and see where he goes with it.

[mitchables]

Rumored villains are Penguin and Catwoman.... and maybe like 6 or 7 others.

feels an odd choice to go with the exact pairing that appeared in batman returns, imo

[Sixx]

Did Batman ever have a werewolf villain?

If so, they should go with that.

[Fignuts]

I’d really like to see Mr. Freeze

[Fignuts]

Did Batman ever have a werewolf villain?

If so, they should go with that.

There’s Man Bat. Which would honestly be awesome.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Mr Freeze would be awesome. Man bat as well.

[mitchables]

hell yeah, i would show the hell up for freeze (esp tragic/serious freeze) and/or man-bat. they both have the potential to be awesome.

tbh though other than freeze - or maybe a well-done poison ivy - i'd prefer it if they went for a villain we haven't seen already, especially one, in catwoman's case, we've already seen twice in two film series

professor pyg would be pretty cool if they're wanting to highlight batman's 'detective' side, though he might not yet be established enough outside of the comics

new 52-era dollmaker would work for similar reasons as pyg, though he appeared in both arrow and gotham

black mask would've been good too, if he wasn't tied up in birds of prey (which, side note, i really hope does not suck)

penguin would be ok but honestly after five seasons of gotham i don't feel like the character needs it; same for riddler. cobblepot and nygma were the breakout villains of that show and imo they feel pretty well represented on-screen as a result, even if neither has been in a film for 20+ years

other villains i would be down for:

- clayface
- court of owls
- hugo strange (they might avoid this purely for the 'dr strange' connection though)
- lady shiva

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Court of Owls should deff be the sequel.

[Sixx]

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I'M... THE BATMAN!

[Fignuts]

I mean, comic fans would love Court of Owls, but Mainstream audiences might not go for it

[slik]

IDK a cool rich cult has possibilities, haven't seen in a superhero film yet

[Damian Rey 2.0]

If it's good mainstream media will love it. That's all that really matters.

[XL]

I could go for Riddler. I wouldn’t disqualify him due to being covered in Gotham as a movie has a broader appeal than the TV show. Riddler would play off going the detective route with Batman too.

[Luigi]

Very interesting ideas and thoughts being posted in this thread and I commend those posters for their contributions. I think this is one of those things where I'll have to "see it to believe it" so to speak. The Dark Knight trilogies is just so legendary that any attempt to duplicate it or come up with a new twist to the Batman series will likely just fall flat in my opinion.

[Sixx]

I could go for Riddler. I wouldn’t disqualify him due to being covered in Gotham as a movie has a broader appeal than the TV show. Riddler would play off going the detective route with Batman too.

Pattison looks too dumb to go the detective route.

[Lock Jaw]

Condiment King for the villain or I'm out

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Very interesting ideas and thoughts being posted in this thread and I commend those posters for their contributions. I think this is one of those things where I'll have to "see it to believe it" so to speak. The Dark Knight trilogies is just so legendary that any attempt to duplicate it or come up with a new twist to the Batman series will likely just fall flat in my opinion.

The same could have been said for Spider-Man and Marvel did a great job creating a different take on the title character that's different but every bit as good as the Raimi version.

It's not going to duplicate TDK films. And it's been 7 years since Rises came out and it'll be closer to 10 years once this film hits. I think that's more than enough time.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Pattison looks too dumb to go the detective route.

I'll admit he's not my first, second, third or 20th choice. I trust the director tho, so I'll give him the benefit of the doubt till proven wrong.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Condiment King for the villain or I'm out

"For being the world's greatest detective, it sure did take you a while to ketchup to my dastardly plot, Batman."

Filming starts this fall in London, btw.

[WrestleRacer91]

I for one cannot wait for this movie. I had/have my doubts about R. Pattinson being Batman but now that I've sat back and thought about it, he does have the looks and I'm looking forward to it a lot.

[Seanny One Ball]

The villain should be some sicko like Victor Zsasz if this is going to be a detective flick.
The Batman hunts a serial killer.

[Lock Jaw]

Zasz seems popular for live action adaptations...... he was just in the Birds of Prey movie

[Seanny One Ball]

I wasn't aware of that. What else has he been in?!

[Seanny One Ball]

Looks like he was in Birds Of Prey, Gotham and Batman Begins. Ever.

"popular" is maybe an overstatement considering the volume of Batman there is to get through.
But yeah, maybe do some other murderer.

It can't be some goofy character.

[El Vaquero de Infierno]

I want some more of this... nipples included.
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[Lock Jaw]

Looks like he was in Birds Of Prey, Gotham and Batman Begins. Ever.

"popular" is maybe an overstatement considering the volume of Batman there is to get through.
But yeah, maybe do some other murderer.

It can't be some goofy character.

Kite Man.

Hell yeah.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

I have obtained the trailer. And I'm pumped. Completely different feel, look and tone from the Nolan films. So far so good.

[RP]

I really think Robert Pattinson could be the best Batman of all time. If you told back when the Twilight movies were a big deal, that 10 years later he would be one of the best actors in the world, i'd tell you you're fucking stupid. But here we are. And he really is one of the best.

[slik]

Looks fucking great!

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[Damian Rey 2.0]

I love everything about that trailer. Has a Seven feel to it.

[El Vaquero de Infierno]

I'm not going to lie: that trailer has me interested.

[road doggy dogg]

I could've sworn I just read something the other day that Affleck is doing Batman still in a Flash movie. Is this a separate Batman movie that's still somehow coming out too?

actually don't answer that, I'm so fatigued on Batman movies I don't care

[Kalyx triaD]

You asking if the Flash movie is a Batman movie or..?

[Lock Jaw]

Flash movie has Batman Ben Affleck and Batman Michael Keaton in it.

This is apparently a "different universe" entirely to Justice League

[Damian Rey 2.0]

I could've sworn I just read something the other day that Affleck is doing Batman still in a Flash movie. Is this a separate Batman movie that's still somehow coming out too?

actually don't answer that, I'm so fatigued on Batman movies I don't care

The Flash movie is going to introduce the multiverse in films. Affleck and Keaton will reprise their Batman roles in that one film.

The Reeves/Pattinson Batman is it's own thing much like Joker exists in its own universe.

[Lock Jaw]

Anyways, this could be an interesting movie, but I already hate Bruce Wayne's haircut.... this is gonna be like The Amazing Spider-Man where I just hated that dude's hair and couldn't get past it....

[Frank Drebin]

Lock Jaw v jelly

[Destor]

im optimistic that we will finally have a batmam film thats a detective story

[Fignuts]

im optimistic that we will finally have a batmam film thats a detective story

I came in here to say exactly this. We've never gotten a Batman movie where that element of the character has taken center stage. So that has me excited.

That said, I dunno about the voice. That "I am Vengeance" line sounded a little weak.

[Lock Jaw]

I came in here to say exactly this. We've never gotten a Batman movie where that element of the character has taken center stage. So that has me excited.

That said, I dunno about the voice. That "I am Vengeance" line sounded a little weak.

On the other hand I thought it was "good" to have a more "normal" Batman voice that would be less hard for people to make fun of. Will need to hear more.

[Destor]

i liked his delivery. felt human (unlike bale) but still had authority

[Lock Jaw]

I liked Bale in the Batman Begins because he actually relaxed his Bat-Voice when talking to others like Gordon/Rachel.... the other two movies it became hardcore Bat-Voice all the time

[XL]

Lock Jaw v jelly: Dawn of Justice

[Damian Rey 2.0]

On the other hand I thought it was "good" to have a more "normal" Batman voice that would be less hard for people to make fun of. Will need to hear more.

It's definitely an improvement over the Bale voice in general. It's more Keaton with a little more gusto than anything else. And I still like the Keaton voice.

[Lock Jaw]

Kevin Conroy best Bat-voice. Right behind Adam West.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Lmao West. I loved that man. Shame he never got a cameo in any of the films.

[Seanny One Ball]

Looks good.

I liked the punching.

[El Vaquero de Infierno]

I'm feelin' it.
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[Destor]

looks as good as i expected it would :y:

[slik]

Looks absolutely great

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Jesus Christ that looks fucking stellar. I’m in. Right before my birthday too. Can’t wait.

[Lock Jaw]

For some reason I'm just indifferent to this.....

Of course I will still rush out and see it ASAP, but just not feeling hyped...

[mitchables]

lol @ punching the glass. come on. even penguin is like my guy please just relax

[mitchables]

For some reason I'm just indifferent to this.....

Of course I will still rush out and see it ASAP, but just not feeling hyped...

it's the unpopular reaction but it's def where i am too on it

[Lock Jaw]

Would give anything to see someone deliver the line "my guy please just relax" to Batman in this movie.

[Frank Drebin]

For some reason I'm just indifferent to this.....

Of course I will still rush out and see it ASAP, but just not feeling hyped...

it's the unpopular reaction but it's def where i am too on it

Fatigue from seeing so many iterations of Batman in such a short period of time. Looks good and I'd like to see it as of now but I'm not hyped up for it either.

[Lock Jaw]

That's probably exactly it.... feel like the next Batman movie I will get excited about is one that kind of skips all origins and whatever and is more of a Batman-Family movie that includes his various sidekicks, etc.

[slik]

He's already Batman when the movie begins. Just a 'still-learning' Batman. Test screenings for this one have been very, very good (allegedly).

I've followed some insiders/leaks about this movie that have me very interested in it...If 'The Dark Knight' was Batman as 'Heat' it sounds like this is Batman as 'Chinatown meets Seven/Saw'...very curious to see how they get the rating to PG-13, which they'll definitely do, there are Lego sets and toy sets incoming for it.

Some possible tidbits about the film, minus any real spoilers, but I'll still put a spoiler tag up


* He is in the Batman costume most of the film, Bruce is more of a rare appearance
* In tune with the 'detective' aspect of Batman in the comics
* It is very much a Noir/Horror film vibe
* Robert Pattinson does a lot of voice-over narration for dialogue 'in his head' (fits the Noir aspect)
* The most violent/brutal Bat film supposedly, on both the giving and receiving end for Bats
* Paul Dano allegedly most memorable Bat villain since Heath Ledger
* Seems inspired by Bat comics The Long Halloween, Batman: Zero Year and this one I'll put in spoiler tag within a spoiler tag, because if it is true, it's definitely a spoiler

The Court of Owls

since you clicked spoiler within a spoiler the aspect of Batman: Zero Year rumored to be central to the plot involves Riddler flooding Gotham City and leaving it a wasteland

[Kalyx triaD]

The body armor looking like straight up vibranium is a bit much, I rather he dodges bullets. Did look badass with him just tanking full auto fire. The fact that they are hiding a lot about Riddler probably means he's gonna be memorable. Hate the car. Catwoman's hot but I don't think that casting ever failed to have a hot Catwoman.

[rez]

Robert Pattinson deserves this. Twighlight fucked his cred up for too long despite killing it in his roles.

[rez]

I worry the DC Multiverse is going to hinder his standalone movie

[Destor]

he's been screen dynamite for years

[GD]

Robert Pattinson deserves this. Twighlight fucked his cred up for too long despite killing it in his roles.

Well, you should listen to his DVD commentary. Good stuff.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

All the spoilers slik posted sound amazing and I got those vibes seeing the last two trailers.

I get being burned out on Batman. We never really got a break. BvS was right after TDK trilogy ended. Then we get the Batman announced. Then Affleck is back for the Snyder cut, plus the Flash film with Affleck and Keaton. It’s a lot of Batman in the last decade.

But, I’m excited for this movie and interested to see how far it differentiate itself from the Nolan stuff while still being a good Batman story.

[Destor]

it doesnt look like this is going to be it but i hope one day we get a batman film where he's actually a detective

[Tom Guycott]

lol @ punching the glass. come on. even penguin is like my guy please just relax

Would give anything to see someone deliver the line "my guy please just relax" to Batman in this movie.

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[Lock Jaw]

In addition to the already announced GCPD prequel spin-off series on HBO Max..... The Penguin is getting his own spin-off series as well (no word on if prequel or sequel)

Really going "all in" on this Bat-Universe before it even comes out....

[drave]

geez.....





is GCPD going to be live-action or animated? Could be interesting I guess.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Live action i believe

[Sixx]

The James Gordon is the black. The eh.

[Seanny One Ball]

Robert Pattinson deserves this. Twighlight fucked his cred up for too long despite killing it in his roles.

he's been screen dynamite for years


Yeah, I mean I haven’t really thought of him and Kristen Stewart as shackled by any sort of “Twilight” association. If anything it helps prove their worth, they are exceeding the expectations of those who saw them in it because they are a lot more talented than that genre, material and direction was ever going to display.

Also wasn’t Twilight like ten years ago at least? I sort of forgot that it was even a thing...

[Seanny One Ball]

Jesus Christ, Zac Efron is pretty much my age...
Someone has to be fucking with his Wiki no way is that kid 34...

[Seanny One Ball]

Darghhh they all are...

Those kids were too old for High School!

[XL]

You’ve been worked Seanny.

[Seanny One Ball]

Twice!

First it was Grease, now HSM... dirty bitches!

[Lock Jaw]

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[Lock Jaw]

Still in the "pretty indifferent but will rush out to see it" camp...

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Well my pants are wet. I’m ready for this movie, please and thank you.

[slik]

Looks really good

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Zoe Kravitz also looked great. Finally got to see more of what she can do. I liked that the trailer centered around them.

[Sixx]

This looks ok, but still... I expect him to start sparkling any second.

[drave]

I can't shake that either, Sixx. Especially even more with this trailer. I sincerely hope they don't go the route of:

"OMG Catwoman, I wanna do stuff"

"Oh yeah Vengeance, me too!"


catwoman gets in a sticky sitcheation with Riddler or some other shit.


Batwoman gets lured to the trap, looks like he's about to lose an BAM


Fin




I don't want it to go that way, but feel like it will.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

There’s nothing in Matt Reeves’ filmography that suggests he’s going to do anything stupid, absurd or unserious with this movie.

I watched his Let Me In remake recently and if that’s the vibe they’re going for, and it feels like it, this movie is going to be just fine. The dynamic between a playful Catwoman and serious Batman seems on point and I trust Reeves as a filmmaker.

[Sixx]

I'd love it if he was so into this whole justice bullshit, it'd go like:

Alfred: "Pancakes or eggs, sir?"

Wayne: "Jus...."

Alfred: "Right, justice."

[Lock Jaw]

You should write the next Batman movie

[Destor]

sounds like he already did

[Destor]

for real though i hope this finally redeems Pattinson in the eyes of joe film-goer. he's a 5 star actor who took a role for big money when he was green. no one hated twilight more than him and The Batman could be his ticket to finally get that movie in his rear view mirror.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

for real though i hope this finally redeems Pattinson in the eyes of joe film-goer. he's a 5 star actor who took a role for big money when he was green. no one hated twilight more than him and The Batman could be his ticket to finally get that movie in his rear view mirror.

Not as invested in Pattinson but respect this take

[Sepholio]

F that nerd. Go Team Jacob.

:shifty:

[Sepholio]

Going off on a DAMN iNATOR style side story here. The best time I ever had a theatre was going to see the second Twilight movie. I forget the name of it. Unimportant. My wife dragged me to it when her bestie had to back out due to an emergency and she didn't want to waste the ticket. Whatever, Twilight blows but I can take a couple hours of Hell for the misses no sweat.

The theatre is wall to wall super hyped up girls of all ages. I scan the area and see a handful of other poor souls who seem to be in this predicament with me. I nod to them, signaling that we will persevere. They raise their fists in solidarity. (OK that part didn't happen but pretend it did for dramatic effect.) Fast forward to like half way through this awful picture and there is a scene where Jacob is wearing the most Central Floridian pair of jorts you have ever laid eyes upon...and then he takes off his shirt. Every single girl in there from ages 6-80 all simultaneously burst out in an embarrassing cacophony of "oooooohs" and "aaaaaaaahs" and I swear I heard someone say "He's so dreamy." Gag. But then it happened, the best thing that ever happened at the theatre. One of my similarly miserable brothers sitting somewhere behind me in this sea of gaggling geese saw Jacob take his shirt off and he saw his opportunity. As all the ladies swooned, this man casually stands up, clears his throat and exclaims to the Heavens "NICE SHORTS FAG!!"

Chaos commenced. All manners of snackery and liquid refreshments were hurled his way from those nearby as the entire theatre erupted into a deafing boo. He grinned, unwavering, unflinching and took his comeuppance in stride. I looked back at this champion of justice with a smile on my face. This man had saved the day and salvaged an otherwise torturous experience for the few of us stalwart warriors who had dared to brave the hall of velour seating. His bravery and sacrifice will never be forgotten.

[XL]

Sounds like a truly hellish experience at the cinema. I’d ask for my money back if I had to deal with that shit.

[Sepholio]

The movie was a drag for me regardless and that minute or 2 of chaos was by the most entertaining time I spent in the theatre that day. I'm not the guy to ask for a refund anyways. I get agitated too easily over things like that and I'd rather not snap in public and cause a scene. Mad embarrassing.

[drave]

for real though i hope this finally redeems Pattinson in the eyes of joe film-goer. he's a 5 star actor who took a role for big money when he was green. no one hated twilight more than him and The Batman could be his ticket to finally get that movie in his rear view mirror.


He was fucking ace in Tenet. That, for me, was enough to forget about his glitter vampire days.



The movie was an unforgettable experience for me regardless and that minute or 2 of chaos was by the most entertaining time I spent in the theatre that day. I got so much enjoyment out of throwing my hot dog at that mean man's face!! How dare he disparage the great Tay-tay. That man can tell me to eat the crap from his corn and bah GAWD I'd give a new definition to the word SLOBBERKNOCKER by the time I was done, mmmmmmhmmmm


Sounds like you had a helluva time!

[XL]

The movie was a drag for me regardless and that minute or 2 of chaos was by the most entertaining time I spent in the theatre that day. I'm not the guy to ask for a refund anyways. I get agitated too easily over things like that and I'd rather not snap in public and cause a scene. Mad embarrassing.

I mean I wouldn’t actually ask for a refund. That’d be an email after the fact.

[Destor]

He was fucking ace in Tenet. That, for me, was enough to forget about his glitter vampire days.






Sounds like you had a helluva time!check light house and good times. very good films tha are acting heavy.

[Sepholio]

Hope Edward announces himself in the movie like Lego Batman does. Just a dead serious monotone "I'm Batman".

[El Vaquero de Infierno]

Pattinson has been owning it for several years now. He'll do a good job.

[Sepholio]

Gonna laugh when Batman goes out during the day and his skin is all sparkly.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Pattinson has been ace for a long while now. And he apparently wanted to play the character badly. So much so he reached out about what the status of the film was. I think he’s gonna kill it with whatever he’s given.

Just a month away baby. Tickets go on sale next week. I’ve read they reported test screening reactions that this movie is very Chinatown/zodiac in vine and style. They released the funeral scene and I got seven vibes. Haven’t seen Chinatown but I loved Zodiac.

[XL]

Yeah I’ve heard a lot of comparisons to Seven. Looking forward to it. Riddler is what I wanted from Dark Knight Rises with Joker as a sort of Hannibal Lecter-like character.

[slik]

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[Damian Rey 2.0]

I’ve read March 1 IMAX screenings are selling/have sold out. It seems Pattinson has shaken off the twilight dust enough to have a big opening weekend at least. No we wait for the critic’s to chime in.

[drave]

Is it Pattinson, or Batman though?

[Frank Drebin]

I'm Batman!

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Is it Pattinson, or Batman though?

It’s probably both. General audiences like Batman. But not enough to carry BvS and Justice League to expectations and I think an Affleck led Batman movie wouldn’t be getting this kind of hype. Pattinson also has a following as both a heartthrob and a serious actor.

[RP]

I have the same feeling about Pattinson that I did about Bale. And Bale turned out to be fantastic.



I think this movie will be great. I imagine there will be changes to the Riddler character as we know it. I'm a bit concerned about the long run time, but honestly if you love Batman and you want a great movie, you take the chance and sit through it. I think the long run time actually points towards this being really really good.

[RP]

I think they havent showed the Riddler because the big reveal is that he isnt in a mask as we all remember from comics and the animated series. I think he's going to be deformed some how. Maybe something to do with Batman. I think they're losing the mask for Riddler. Which I honestly would not mind. It's modern. It makes sense.

[drave]

Affleck has a stink on him from long ago that will not wash away. You could put him in Star Wars and kill the IP.

[drave]

I have the same feeling about Pattinson that I did about Bale. And Bale turned out to be fantastic.



I think this movie will be great. I imagine there will be changes to the Riddler character as we know it. I'm a bit concerned about the long run time, but honestly if you love Batman and you want a great movie, you take the chance and sit through it. I think the long run time actually points towards this being really really good.


This is my favorite RP post ever. Bale is amazing. Assuming the run time will give the plot proper time to flesh out...... hopefully.

[XL]

They’ve got a lot to establish with introducing Riddler, Penguin, and Catwoman in the same movie. That said, you’re not going from a standing start with these characters; the outlines are very well established in the public consciousness. I’ve faith that this movie will deliver.

[Lock Jaw]

I have a feeling that Penguin is "barely" going to be in it, and is just going to be like an "opening scene action sequence villain" to establish things.

[slik]

I've read enough things about the film I've possibly spoiled some plot stuff for myself - which I will not spoil for anyone else - but everything I've read the story sounds great and like this will *probably* be the best Bat film since The Dark Knight (and also a very different film from The Dark Knight....if The Dark Knight was the HEAT of superhero flicks, this is probably more so the ZODIAC/Chinatown of superhero films).

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Just purchased my tickets for March 3. Pretty damn excited. Reviews drop in 12 days.

[Destor]

is this going to hbo max

[Lock Jaw]

45 days after its theatrical debut

[Damian Rey 2.0]

I have a feeling that Penguin is "barely" going to be in it, and is just going to be like an "opening scene action sequence villain" to establish things.

It’s already been reported he’s a minor character. He won’t be s as one scene wonder though. The trailers alone have him alone in his suite, he’s at whatever funeral Bruce, Selina and Carmine are at, plus the two scenes we know he’s in with Batman where Batman beats up his goons and the car chase.

He’s also getting an HBO max series. So we’ll get more of him.

And I’m ok with them saving him as a side/reoccurring character.

Reeves stated in an interview that he thinks there’s a very grounded and interesting way to bring Mr. Freeze to film, while Pattinson wants Court of Owls and Calendar Man. Court of Owls certainty fits into the detective/secrets of Gotham uncovered vibes. Though Idk how they handle the zombie assassin thing.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

New clip released on the Jimmy Kimmel show. Apologies as I don’t know how to embed

https://twitter.com/onetakenews/status/1494192698852532224?s=21

[Swiss Ultimate]

It’s already been reported he’s a minor character. He won’t be s as one scene wonder though. The trailers alone have him alone in his suite, he’s at whatever funeral Bruce, Selina and Carmine are at, plus the two scenes we know he’s in with Batman where Batman beats up his goons and the car chase.

He’s also getting an HBO max series. So we’ll get more of him.

And I’m ok with them saving him as a side/reoccurring character.

Reeves stated in an interview that he thinks there’s a very grounded and interesting way to bring Mr. Freeze to film, while Pattinson wants Court of Owls and Calendar Man. Court of Owls certainty fits into the detective/secrets of Gotham uncovered vibes. Though Idk how they handle the zombie assassin thing.

My favorite Penguin will always be: https://static.onecms.io/wp-content/uploads/sites/6/2014/07/gotham-05_612x380_1.jpg

Even though the show went to shit by the second season.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

I think I watched part of season 1 of Gotham and just couldn’t get into it

[Lock Jaw]

I was enjoying it but then my cable box died and I lost a bunch of recordings and never watched it again.. must have been season 3 maybe...

[drave]

You can get the entire series on Hulu, I think, no DVR needed

[Swiss Ultimate]

It was a very uneven show.

[Ruien]

Gotham was great for the first season. By the third season it was a clusterfuck.

[slik]

Google Bruce Wayne and then click on the bat signal on the right for a surprise

https://i.postimg.cc/FH9hNncF/Screenshot-2022-02-24-8-20-15-PM.png

[slik]

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[ron the dial]

https://m.media-amazon.com/images/M/MV5BZWMzYWU0ZDctMzNhNC00ZWQ2LTk5ZWYtM2YxNjI0ZmFkNmE0XkEyXkFqcGdeQXVyNzA4NzQyMjk@._V1_FMjpg_UX1000_.j pg

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Social media reactions are coming out. So far so good. The real crítica will he to give their reactions on Monday i believe.

[slik]

Review embargo lifted and it's getting rave reviews so far

[GD]

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[Damian Rey 2.0]

That spoiler free GD?

And not surprised about its reception. Reeves is coming off the heels of two very well reviewed, very financially successful ape films, with his let me in remake right behind those. I want a fan but cloverfield was also successful with critics and at the box office.

Now that reviews are in and my bias desire for a critically acclaimed movie have been met, I can go full on excitement mode as I’m already booked to see this Friday morning.

[GD]

Yes. He'll make another video with spoilers later in the week.

[GD]

I saw it earlier today and had a good time. Dano was excellent.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

About to start in 10 minutes. Very excited. Primed myself by watching Chinatown again and Seven the last few nights.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Already reviewed it in the movie review thread but damn did I love this movie.

[Destor]

one thing i find particularly interesting is the film has nothing to offer children. it plays out well for me a an individual but its an odd thought to have a batman film that isnt remotely marketable to a younger audience. from the pacing to the general plot structure and the light horror elements besides this film has nearly no chance in appealing, let alone holding the attention of, a young boy audience.


im not saying that as a positive or a negative. just a general observation.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

It very much felt like an adults only movie and targeted at the 18-34 crowd. Which I don’t think is bad. It’s refreshing given how many marvel movies we’ve been given over the years.

[AguileraSZN]

The last good Batman had Jack Nicholson in it.

[Destor]

bad take or troll i cant tell

[AguileraSZN]

bad take or troll i cant tell My opinion chief 😁

[Destor]

somehow thats worse

[AguileraSZN]

somehow thats worse Hahahaha

[Destor]

the batman is cruising to a 120mil opening weekend. many are comparing it to spideys recent 260mil open but since this is an R feature i feel like that's unfair. very strong open for an R film

[Destor]

would land it right behind deadpool 2 (125mil)

[Destor]

one thing i think might make this film struggle is becaus it so plot driven repeat views might be low so it could potentially have less legs than other films in the franchise/genre

[Destor]

probably worth noting the deadpool 2 had half the production budget of the batman but still. i think 120 is a good open for a reboot that lacked consumer convidence going in. word of mouth will give it a good 3 weeks id wager.

[Seanny One Ball]

Post COVID numbers are different.

Give me that at least.

[Destor]

the new spidey is post covid and had the 2nd biggest open of all time behind avengers endgame. a film with a 19 picture lead up. in a lot of ways its not reasonable to compare spidey 3 with avengers 4.

there was a covid period that absolutely impacted tickets but we are post covid. the news and the government might tell you youre in pandemic but every day people have completely moved on.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

The next big studio movie i believe is Morbius and that’s another month out. So far the Batman is tracking to be really popular with general audiences, which is what counts, and it’s got that audience all to itself for a few more weekends.

My wife, who isn’t into superhero movies and refused to watch the Nolan trilogy, loved this movie. Namely because it’s a police procedural style story being worked by a guy in a bat suit. But the unraveling narrative and Batman detecting is what sucked her in. I’ve heard the same from other non fanatic moviegoers that I’m close with.

[Destor]

i think once the people who were skeptical catch this on hbo max next month praise is going to get even louder. nolans run level? i dont see that due to the rating. but its going to get more popular over time i think.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

The movie is pg13 in the states, so it won’t have trouble getting those younger audiences in. Not sure where you’re at country wise but in the US the rating won’t hinder it. Only constant complaint I see is it’s not humorous at all and it’s a very serious, time heavy film, which is a huge left turn for audiences thinking they’re getting a fun marvel style movie.

Then again, Joker was really bleak and it made a killing. No pun intended.

[Destor]

joker did make big money

[Destor]

and if the film is pg13 then the returns are pretty bad tbh...still i think streaming will help

[Lock Jaw]

Spoilers of the movie:

Wow, Riddler what a hero... he succeeds with his plans, roots out more corruption than Batman ever did, AND solves the homelessness problem!

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Second viewing got an ovation at the end. Theater was packed.

While I agree work you Destor about the opening not being as big as it could, we have to remember that this movie is a reboot and the last two films with Batman were turds, Pattinson doesn’t have the mainstream following he likely will after this movie and is still shaking off twilight dust from the average moviegoer.

I think it’ll have a strong second weekend and hold its own through the middle of next month when it goes to HBO max, where it’ll likely get numbers.

[Destor]

i dont blame the film. the dc brand is weak and the lead is trying to win over a demo that actively hates him. im certain though this will be like pirates of the Caribbean. the 1st film didnt sell tickets. it was a hit at home. when the 2nd film dropped everyone who passed on the original turned out in droves. i think this incarnation has a future. but...opening weekend...still under on recouping production costs never mind marketing...yeah its not great. in 2 year though public perception will have shifted on this. bump this thread and quote me.

[Destor]

as long as warner backs the reeves incarnation i think itll do fine long term

[slik]

I think they are 'all in' since Penguin is getting an HBO series or something like that

[GD]

Spoilers of the movie:

Wow, Riddler what a hero... he succeeds with his plans, roots out more corruption than Batman ever did, AND solves the homelessness problem!

lol

[XL]

Saw it last night. Probably my 2nd favourite Bat film.

[XL]

Behind Batman & Robin obvs.

[XL]

Guess I'll add my Two Cents...

Depp as The Riddler
I would like to see Depp as The Riddler based solely on the fact that he is a damn fine actor and I like to watch damn fine actors at work. Perhaps he could be somebody drafted in by the police to help them find Batman, during the investigation "Ed Nigma" (I wouldn't use that name) discovers that Batman is in fact Bruce Wayne but rather than telling the police he keeps this information to himself and he becomes The Riddler and begins to torment Wayne/Batman (insert personal reason as to why he would do that into the plot).


The Joker Returns
With the rise of The Riddler in effect and his targeting of Wayne/Batman starting to effect the city at large the police turn to someone they believe can understand The Riddler's mind. Through Harley Quinn (Britany Murphy is a good fit for the role and could also provide the 'love interest' for Bruce) we have a 'Silence of the Lambs' setup between her and The Joker, played by....



Johnny Depp (hear me out).

I'd have him filmed from behind/shoot from his perspective so that you would never see his face (Depp would do his best to nail Ledger's take on the voice). I think there'd be an excellent duality in having both characters played by the same guy - as long as it was someone like Depp.

**An alternative is to use the 'Silence of the Lambs' scenario to twist "Ed Nigma" from police helper to the character he would become. "Ed Nigma" would use The Joker to try and 'get inside the mind of Batman' as Joker seems to understand what drives and motivates Batman. During these meetings Joker can subtley turn "Ed" into The Riddler.**


Penguin
An idea for Penguin would be to have him reform the Mob before becoming Mayor of Gotham. The people of Gotham are willing to vote anybody into power that they feel can stop the vigilante known as Batman. This comes as a knee jerk reaction tothe events of The Dark Knight (i.e. Batman "killing" Dent).

This however is a little too close to Batman Returns for my liking so an alternative would be to mix the two scenarios above and have The Riddler become Mayor - seeking Batman as the powerful Mayor "Nigma" as well as tormenting Bruce Wayne as The Riddler. Just for kicks of course.


Other Villains
I'm not too keen on Catwoman, Bane or a returning Ras BUT I can see how they could be done. Clayface should be steered completely away from - unless he's just a guy suffering from a disfigurative facial disease (akin to the Elephant Man) that somehow has some power in the Mob or something. I dunno, not really interested tbh.


This is where I lose you all...

Robin
At first I thought the idea of "The Boy Wonder" appearing in the Nolan created Batman Universe was a big no-no but now I've come to like the idea. However, there would need to be some major changes...

- I would at no point use the name Robin (unless it just so happened to be the characters middle name that could be referenced as a little injoke towards the end of the film).

- I'd also drop the circus background that we've seen before. Far too campy.

- He wouldn't be Batman's sidekick and wouldn't get a costume.

Batman would use "Robin" as a go between so that he could still communicate with Commissioner Gordon without risking Gordan's position. I'd have the character be some kinda streetwise teenager who at some point sees Batman save someone from a mugger (or something similar) thus learning that Batman is not the bad guy he's being made out to be.

Now comes the single reason I'd have "Robin" in the film: his method of getting around the city...parkour (freerunning). I think a chase secene with him running across rooftops, flipping, rolling, diving from ledge to ledge, etc would be kinda cool. Even have the chase be against Batman.



Anyways, there's my take on a few things. Feel free to rip it apart. Or better yet try to tie together the loose strands that I've left.

This was a post I made in 2008 about where the Nolan movies could go after TDK. Think there’s a few common threads there. Also completely missed on how close I was with the Robin as another name with an “in joke towards the end of the movie”. :lol:

[Seanny One Ball]

L… LOL?

[slik]

Deleted scene of Batman and The Joker


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[Damian Rey 2.0]

That was stellar. I love that he looks like he was dropped in acid. More please.

[Big Vic]

Really think we need to put the Joker on ice for a decade.

[drave]

They could do MORE, for sure.




Court of Owls seems like it'd be PERFECT for the current atmosphere.


Red Hood and/or Arkham Knight (but Red Hood really).




Court of Owls would be a great choice for a movie IMO.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

I would love court if owls. No man’s land also seems like an easy set up given the ending of this one.

[Fignuts]

Just saw this on hbo max. Excellent film.ove that we finally have a batman movie that emphasizes his detective skills.

Also, I agree with others that Court of Owls would fit fantastically with the tone and atmosphere that this film set in place.

[XL]

Feel like the inclusion of The Joker was a studio decision, like you can’t have a Batman movie without at least a hint of him.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

I don’t think so. Reeves was ready to walk away when he felt the studio was going to mandate what was to be in the movie. I have zero doubts it was all his idea. He mentioned using joker like a Hannibal Lecter type. I could see that role growing in the next film, leading to his escape and being the main villain in the 3rd film.

Given they’re hinting at No Man’s Land with that ending, I could see Joker escaping at the end of the next one and being the primary villain for the 3rd.

[Destor]

we def shouldnt be thinking about 3 just yet. 2 will have to perform for that to happen.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Fair. Nonetheless I’d like to see more different villains in the next one. Arkham City Mets No Man’s Land, with the Court of Owls pulling the strings, please.

[Seanny One Ball]

I liked it but it would have made a better mini-series. It had mini-series written all over it.

[Seanny One Ball]

My biggest gripe is how shit the riddles were.

Bad riddles.

The Riddler now an ironic name like “Little John”.

[Seanny One Ball]

“I have a bed and do not sleep, what am I?”

“A river you cunt!”

That’s the level.

[Lock Jaw]

Villain in the next film should be Kite Man

[Destor]

kiteman and poison ivy

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Condiment King

[drave]

People laugh at Calendar Man...... but it could be a cerebral thriller. He was good in "The Long Halloween". They could keep him in that mindset and it'd be decent, if we wanna go with "joke" villains.

[Lock Jaw]

You know who I loved in The Animated Series? The Ventriloquist and Scarface.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Scarface would be cool. Maybe not as a main villain but one of them.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

I've tried to watch this. Pretty good from what I saw but I just don't have the patience for a 3 hour fucking batman movie. Honestly, fuck off with that shit

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Like if there wasn't already a million other batman movies i could do it. But seriously. Ugh.

[Lock Jaw]

Ditto... been saying I should rewatch it since it came out on Crave but it is like "ugh, 3 hours... that's a commitment".... and if I was going to commit that much time to a Batman movie it would probably be for one of the more fun Nolan movies...

[Lock Jaw]

The more distance I put between myself and this movie the more I think it is just "ok". Matt Reeves is a weird entity... like I really liked his Apes movies and this movie when I saw them for the first time, but then after the fact I feel like zero motivation to watch them again even though I know they are "good".

[GD]

shut up cumdork

[ron the dial]

at least quote me

[Destor]

the film def has very littler replay value

[Destor]

(since its a plot driven feature)

[Splaya]

Villain in the next film should be Kite Man

Is this a megaman character?

[Big Vic]

https://bleedingcool.com/comics/return-kite-man-tom-king-batman/

[Damian Rey 2.0]

The Batman sequel officially announced at cinema con yesterday. Joy.

[Destor]

i hope warner releases the app data. if what i suspect is true the 2nd film will probably open huge

[Damian Rey 2.0]

They did. 4.1m views in the first week of release on HBO Max. Idk if that’s their highest but it beat most of their big releases on the app, including the Zack Snyder JL cut.

[Destor]

so that an extra 40 mil taking the box office to 750...damn. well theres still a year or so for word of mouth i guess. shame. i guess we dont know how many of those views were couples/groups so it could be more

[Damian Rey 2.0]

I’d bet on more. But still the movie is popular and Pattinson was praised in the title role, which I think was their biggest hurdle.