Money In The Bank 2019 Thread

[Splaya]

A bit surprised that the Universal Championship match isn't closing the show.

Read online that they were trying to schedule the best matches around the Game of Thrones Finale tonight.

So it must mean that something big is still going down in the MITB Men's match. Like Andrade or Riccochet winning.

[Ben Rodrigues]

A bit surprised that the Universal Championship match isn't closing the show.

They're facing a bit of racial backlash. Closing the show with an African American winning will help smooth things over so Lars can win the belt.

[Splaya]

Is Vince trying to intentionally just kill this product? This feels like such a WCW PPV in late 1999

[GD]

Welp, going to watch the GOT finale now.

[Droford]

styles and seth should have gotten together ahead and discused attire color

[Sepholio]

damn I wish theyd have went thru with that just for the spectacle of it

[xrodmuc316]

Mick Foley is gonna debut "The WWE Elite Championship" tomorrow night, with advanced tracking of all metrics. It will only be booked with a clear winner or they will just cancel the match otherwise.

[GD]

This match is absolutely bonkers.

[Sepholio]

wow

[slik]

The Rey-Joe & Charlotte-Becky results look really dumb.

Even if she got cashed in, that was another unnecessary title reign for Charlotte. She's beyond Bliss-level for title feud and belt hogging spotlight.

The Shane/Miz match was horrible btw
Crowd hated Shane winning

[Emperor Smeat]

That was a pretty sweet looking inverted top rope suplex and Falcon Arrow by Rollins.

[Sepholio]

I repeat. wow.

[Emperor Smeat]

Wouldn't be a Seth Rollins match without the overdone knee injury spot.

[Sepholio]

These 2 work really well together and I couldn't be happier. They even correct each others mistakes on the fly without skipping a beat.

[owenbrown]

I guess Big E was sorta right about Charlotte Flair

https://www.reddit.com/r/SquaredCircle/comments/9cfztq/that_time_big_e_joked_about_charlottes_title/

[owenbrown]

also who the fuck did The Miz piss off backstage?

[GD]

Holy shit! What a Styles Clash :eek:

[Sepholio]

j.f.c.

[Droford]

damn

[Evil Vito]

Damn good match

[Emperor Smeat]

Rollins vs Styles was pretty great overall.

[GD]

Wow! Rollins defeats AJ Styles in convincing fashion.

[Droford]

that was one of the better stlyes clashes ive seen cause they usually look real hokey getting set up

[slik]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">CURBSTOMP COUNTERED INTO A STYLES CLASH!!!! <a href="https://twitter.com/AJStylesOrg?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@AJStylesOrg</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MITB?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MITB</a> <a href="https://t.co/VLmbKIZSrb">pic.twitter.com/VLmbKIZSrb</a></p>&mdash; Italo Santana (@BulletClubIta) <a href="https://twitter.com/BulletClubIta/status/1130285130633711616?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 20, 2019</a></blockquote>
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[slik]

Best match on the show

[Sepholio]

5....4...3....2...BROCK

[Sepholio]

Guess he shows up on RAW to boost ratings instead then.

[xrodmuc316]

Woods turning heel tonight! Lol

[Droford]

Xavier about to get added to MITB

[GD]

Lucha! Lucha! Lucha!

[xrodmuc316]

OMG a fucking PPV is NOT the time to throw in extra unannounced Lucha House Party matches, Jesus

[Droford]

oh dear..why

[GD]

"Wild Card" rules, maggle!

[xrodmuc316]

HAHA ok I take it back, having racist Lars beat up 3 minorities is perfect WWE booking

[Emperor Smeat]

wait ... what?

Another new title is getting added to the ridiculously large pile of belts WWE already has?

They barely know how to book the belts they currently have and if its anything like the Women's Tag belts, I give it about a month before it starts getting ignored as well.

[GD]

Did Kalisto bust open Lars?

[slik]

Back to feeling like a RAW

[Splaya]

Calling it now. Styles and Rollins at Extreme Rules. 60 minute Iron Man Match

[Droford]

wait ... what?

Another new title is getting added to the ridiculously large pile of belts WWE already has?

They barely know how to book the belts they currently have and if its anything like the Women's Tag belts, I give it about a month before it starts getting ignored as well.

Im assuming a cross brand WILD CARD belt but who knows

[A.J.K]

A lot more blood lately

Miz
Joe
Lars

[xrodmuc316]

Fight

[xrodmuc316]

Owens

[slik]

So after everything the last couple of weeks was it really necessary to have LARS come out and destroy three Hispanic roster members...

[A.J.K]

FIGHT

[Droford]

So after everything the last couple of weeks was it really necessary to have LARS come out and destroy three Hispanic roster members...

Lars hates fun

[xrodmuc316]

So after everything the last couple of weeks was it really necessary to have LARS come out and destroy three Hispanic roster members...

Vince is gonna have him destroy every minority in the company until he gets to Samoans, then Lars gets buried.

[xrodmuc316]

Is it just me, or does the back of K.O.s shirt day OWFNS? Like they snuck an F'N in there lol

[Ruien]

Did Rollins win?

[GD]

Is it just me, or does the back of K.O.s shirt day OWFNS? Like they snuck an F'N in there lol

https://shop.wwe.com/on/demandware.static/-/Sites-main/default/dwf41913f4/images/large/2334F78588_B.jpg

[slik]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">&quot;Owens is a dangerous individual, Brain. He has tremendous ability and absolutely no moral compass!&quot;<br>&quot;Plus she's got that dragon.&quot;<br>&quot;What on earth are you talking about? Pay attention to the match!&quot;<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MITB?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MITB</a></p>&mdash; WWF Prime Time Today (@WWFPrimeTimeNow) <a href="https://twitter.com/WWFPrimeTimeNow/status/1130291197182980096?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 20, 2019</a></blockquote>
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[slik]

Did Rollins win?

Yeah, good match, he pinned AJ clean

[Emperor Smeat]

So after everything the last couple of weeks was it really necessary to have LARS come out and destroy three Hispanic roster members...

This is the same company that last year went ahead with holding a show in Saudi Arabia weeks after the embassy murder incident and being told by everyone how bad of a PR move it would be and other companies pulling out of their own Saudi deals.

And months before named a women's battle royal in honor of Moolah and held fast to their plan despite the backlash until Snickers hinted they would pull their sponsorship if they did.

[GD]

Holy fucking shit! That double stomp sounded loud.

[Ruien]

Yeah, good match, he pinned AJ clean

Fuck ya. Thanks

[Sepholio]

lol that lady who just yelled YOU SUCK KOFI must have been right next to the mic. That was loud af.

[Emperor Smeat]

Kofi-Owens match is way too slow paced for these big spots to really pop the crowd.

[Droford]

dont get pulling his boots off

[Emperor Smeat]

:lol: at the tag line for the Saudi Super Showdown event

"Better than WrestleMania"

[slik]

Pimping Super Showdown as bigger than Mania again lol

[Droford]

first time last time

[KIRA]

The burial of WrestleMania continues

It's going to be hilarious when they try to turn around and call WrestleMania the biggest stage of them all again next year given how they are shiting all over it

Also LOL at the fact that they have to drag out a bunch of barely mobile old dues because apparently Saudi Arabia's knowledge of wrestling doesn't go past the mid-to-late 90s

[Droford]

Pimping Super Showdown as bigger than Mania again lol

Greatest Wrestlemania

[GD]

He's back in his regular gear :nono:

[GD]

The Best Exotic WrestleMania

[Droford]

so essentially with 2 popular face champions its probably a heel winning unless its a long run with the case

[GD]

One and only! I have high expectations from Ricochet.

[Droford]

Wonder if they go to KC for RAW if Corbin will claim hes KC's favorite son

[GD]

El Idolo has come a long way since his NXT debut.

[Theo Dious]

I only care about this match because I wanna see Andrade win because that will mean lots of ZELINA.

[slik]

I wonder if Bray gets involved here

[Emperor Smeat]

So why wouldn't Finn invoke his Demon powers to be guaranteed the MitB case and almost guaranteed Universal title reign if he's involving the Demon to keep his IC belt at the next Saudi show.

[KIRA]

Andrade's gear Did Andrade and Finn Balor call each other last night?

[slik]

I haven't seen anything tonight that will turn ratings around

Also I bet Mic Foley's announcement is something for a title just for Super Showdown

[GD]

I wonder if Bray gets involved here

Probably Lashley.

[GD]

Or Dolph.

[Emperor Smeat]

:lol: at the payoff for getting rid of Strowman's spot and the injury storyline for Sami's spot was to not have anyone actually take the 8th spot for this match.

[Theo Dious]

Did Ricochet just throw his own useless ass to the outside?

[Droford]

I wonder if Bray gets involved here

he just had a baby, so prob not

[Splaya]

I haven't seen anything tonight that will turn ratings around

Also I bet Mic Foley's announcement is something for a title just for Super Showdown

I would love if it was somehow the hardcore title

[Droford]

:lol: at the payoff for getting rid of Strowman's spot and the injury storyline for Sami's spot was to not have anyone actually take the 8th spot for this match.

Sami probably gonna try to sneak out at the end because he hung himself upside down not really hurt

[Theo Dious]

I haven't seen anything tonight that will turn ratings around

Also I bet Mic Foley's announcement is something for a title just for Super Showdown

Ratings are meaningless you self-satisfied arrogant assbandit.

[Emperor Smeat]

Ouch at that backhand by Andrade to Orton.

[Droford]

Want Mcintyre to win
Will Accept Finn, Andrade, Ricochet
Do not want Ali, Orton or Corbin

Sami gets Will Accept status if he sneaks out late

[GD]

he just had a baby, so prob not

And JoJo had serious complications during the process. Safe to say Wyatt won't be on the show tonight.

[Tom Guycott]

Unless they are so obscure they consider a free promotion but then again one-time he had a mastodon shirt on

IT'S FUCKING VAD-oh, you meant the band.

[slik]

ouch at Ricochet landing

[GD]

Rest in Peace, Finn Balor's back.

[Sepholio]

HOLY SHIT

[Splaya]

That's the sickest fucking spot I've ever seen in a ladder match

[GD]

Yowie Wowie chants?

[Droford]

G1 MSG spot incoming

[DaveWadding]

Andrade :eek:

[GD]

Ricochet selling the spike like a boss.

[slik]

Ouch at Finn landing

[KIRA]

OK Wyatt got the phrase Yowie Wowie over

[Sepholio]

I repeat. HOLY SHIT

[Droford]

OK Wyatt got the phrase Yowie Wowie over

I like it more than holy shit at a sick looking move

[DaveWadding]

The Spanish Fly smh

[Sepholio]

.....this is my favorite MitB match in years, maybe ever.

[Droford]

I just know at this point Zayns coming out and winning cause he put up a ruse

[Splaya]

What dies first: Finn's Spine or the Company

[Sepholio]

That was by far the best deep six and probably the best move Corbin has ever pulled off.

[Sepholio]

Finn Balor taking all the bumps. Andrade not far behind.

[slik]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">&quot;How the hell is Finn Bálor alive??&quot; indeed, Jesus fucking Christ <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MITB?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MITB</a> <a href="https://t.co/JWs47oxk0g">pic.twitter.com/JWs47oxk0g</a></p>&mdash; Brandon Stroud (@MrBrandonStroud) <a href="https://twitter.com/MrBrandonStroud/status/1130299805538934784?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 20, 2019</a></blockquote>
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[Sepholio]

I repeat, yet again. HOLY SHIT

[DaveWadding]

BAH GAWD, THAT MAN HAS A FAMILY

[DaveWadding]

OUTTA NOWHEREEEEE

[GD]

What the actual fuck! Brock motherfucking Lesnar :rofl:

[GD]

Jesus fucking Christ :rofl:

[Splaya]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[Theo Dious]

This. Is. Retarded.

[Emperor Smeat]

OMG if Lesnar wins the MitB case.

[Theo Dious]

People aren't dumbfounded. They are LEAVING.

[DaveWadding]

What even is this?

[Droford]

beast in the bank

[Sepholio]

Well...it was my favorite mitb match in years until that :(

[GD]

What the actual fuck :rofl:

Brock Lesnar is Mr. Money in the Bank :nono:

[Droford]

What the actual fuck :rofl:

Brock Lesnar is "Money in the Bank"

hich is perfect cause he can go away for 6 months and the cash in will be a surprise

[Splaya]

God.

All I fucking heard for the last few weeks was "we are going to make a star with the Men's Match. Someone is coming out as a star"

AND THEN THIS FUCKING STUPID FUCKING SHIT HAPPENS. FUCK YOU VINCE

[Droford]

I was sorta close

[Evil Vito]

My network sub is up in a couple of days and I was unsure on renewing. This made it an easy decision.

 Back to NXT on Hulu.

[Theo Dious]

If Bailey second Championship Reign is anything like her first one then the answer is Sasha Banks

You're an idiot. Seriously.

[Emperor Smeat]

:lol: Lesnar actually won the case.

[KIRA]

TheYou're an idiot. Seriously.

Uh huh. Fuck you.

[Sepholio]

This just made me say what so many times that Samuel L. Jackson just shot me.

[Sepholio]

hich is perfect cause he can go away for 6 months and the cash in will be a surprise

…...bet he uses it at the Saudi show.

[Droford]

I want a becky lynch movie like Paiges

do it

[rockman725]

I was fully expecting a SD winner initially, even though Drew was the favorite. With Bayley winning earlier, thought it was gonna be a Raw guy for sure. This makes sense so that Brock can cash in on the debut of Smackdown on FOX, since, well, he really isn't a "brand" guy anyway.

[Evil Vito]

https://i.imgur.com/3yL4fae.png

[Emperor Smeat]

So what was the point of running a storyline for months of how terrible Lesnar was as Universal champ just to give him the MitB case and potentially have another title reign where he is barely around.

Made both Reigns and Rollins wins over him for the title meaningless since the whole purpose of getting the belt off of Lesnar was to show that RAW deserved better than him as their champ to rep the brand.

[KIRA]

Brock Lesnar.... it's like Vince is afraid to go with anybody else.
Also it's been said but man it looks bad when your part-timer keeps getting put over guys who bust their ass day in and day out

[slik]

Just cancelled my WWE Network subscription. Not here for Blood Money Mania, not interested in Brock doing the same 'ol, same 'ol.

Will re-subscribe when I feel it's worth the investment.

[mike adamle]

I loved the ending. Love me some Lesnar

[Droford]

I hope Sami faces Brock for the MITB case and somehow wins it

[Sepholio]

The take away I have from tonight is that Lesnar is winning the title in Saudi. Then Braun is going to come for him because of Brock ending up in Brauns spot in MitB by taking out Zayn and "framing" Braun for it.

[KIRA]

I hope Sami faces Brock for the MITB case and somehow wins it

That would actually be kind of fun

[Droford]

That would actually be kind of fun

He could lead the coalition against brock like they did for Strowman

[Savio]

Was Brock officially entered into the match or no?

[Droford]

talking to Seth in becky's special lol

[slik]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Awesome to see <a href="https://twitter.com/BrockLesnar?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@BrockLesnar</a> win the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MoneyInTheBank?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MoneyInTheBank</a> match...even though he wasn’t officially entered! Brock is the future of the biz and this perfect example of genius booking shows why <a href="https://twitter.com/WWE?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@WWE</a> will remain on top FOREVER! <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/GoBrockGo?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#GoBrockGo</a></p>&mdash; Chris Jericho (@IAmJericho) <a href="https://twitter.com/IAmJericho/status/1130310678697435136?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 20, 2019</a></blockquote>
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[slik]

Was Brock officially entered into the match or no?

I am sure tomorrow they will reveal HHH addded him behind the scenes or what not

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Lmao Jericho

[Splaya]

I thought about the entire PPV on my way home from a friend's house.

This PPV was basically Vince giving the fans the middle finger. It has that style of thinking written all over it. All of the referee controversies are from fans bitching. Fans love Becky but we have to take a belt off her. Fans hate Brock so let's give him the one thing we normally give to a rising star with potential or a full time wrestler. Lars killing more minorities. Shane gets another victory over Miz. All big fat middle fingers to the fans. On top of it, the entire feel of the PPV was like a 1999 episode of Nitro or a WCW PPV when the writing was on the wall that the company had no more ideas on where to go with everything.

The only thing that wasn't a middle finger was AJ/Rollins and the Bayley win

[slik]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">“How about we have that guy who we just fined for being a racist beat up those the Hispanic guys?” <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MITB?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MITB</a> <a href="https://t.co/OUFn06nKlw">pic.twitter.com/OUFn06nKlw</a></p>&mdash; Tights And Fights: The Perfect Wrestling Podcast (@TightsFights) <a href="https://twitter.com/TightsFights/status/1130288211283009536?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 20, 2019</a></blockquote>
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[Droford]

I am sure tomorrow they will reveal HHH addded him behind the scenes or what not
Lesnar beat up Sami and took his spot

HHH blamed Braun, he said he didnt do it.

Not sure HHH will come out as doing anything more like he just took the spot.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

So Vince is undoubtedly doesn't see AEW as a viable threat right? It's the same song and dance. And maybe it's the same smug, cocky, false sense of security that he had when wcw started buying up ex talent and building to the nwo.

Pretty clear Vince doesn't care about anything but what he finds enjoyable as a product. I hope Double or Nothing and their live tv does big numbers. Something needs to change.

[Droford]

I thought about the entire PPV on my way home from a friend's house.

This PPV was basically Vince giving the fans the middle finger. It has that style of thinking written all over it. All of the referee controversies are from fans bitching. Fans love Becky but we have to take a belt off her. Fans hate Brock so let's give him the one thing we normally give to a rising star with potential or a full time wrestler. Lars killing more minorities. Shane gets another victory over Miz. All big fat middle fingers to the fans. On top of it, the entire feel of the PPV was like a 1999 episode of Nitro or a WCW PPV when the writing was on the wall that the company had no more ideas on where to go with everything.

The only thing that wasn't a middle finger was AJ/Rollins and the Bayley win

when it came out she was dating Seth I knew since they accommodated the other relationships to stay on the same brand that shed lose the SD title first so she could stay on Raw. They actually could have pulled off a huge Bayley heel turn if Becky won both matches and then she got cashed in on by Bayley. Instead they added a 5 minute title reign to Charlottes ledger for no reason but at least in the end Bayley gets a bump from it. In the end because I saw it coming i dont mind it for what they did with Bayley provided they dont torpedo her reign

AJ/Seth was awesome and 99.7% of the mens ladder match was incredible but Lesnar winning just ruined not only the ladder match but the whole show.

[Droford]

Also the rumors of whoever was going to win MITB was in line to be made a big star seems laughable now

[slik]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MITB?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MITB</a> as fast as I could make the meme <a href="https://t.co/97vp3G2Z14">pic.twitter.com/97vp3G2Z14</a></p>&mdash; bryan jacek (@BryanJacek) <a href="https://twitter.com/BryanJacek/status/1130306165194276865?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 20, 2019</a></blockquote>
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[Droford]

So Vince is undoubtedly doesn't see AEW as a viable threat right? It's the same song and dance. And maybe it's the same smug, cocky, false sense of security that he had when wcw started buying up ex talent and building to the nwo.

Pretty clear Vince doesn't care about anything but what he finds enjoyable as a product. I hope Double or Nothing and their live tv does big numbers. Something needs to change.

Tellin you, he's using trump to torpedo AEW getting visas. Its a CON SPIRACY

[Lock Jaw]

Totally forgot there was a PPV today.....

[James Steele]

The closing visual of all the superstars laying on the floor after sacrificing their bodies to an absolutely insane degree while Brock Lesnar looks down talking shit and smirking was a very appropriate one. Randy Orton leaning back on the barrier with a “WTF, really?!” was also very appropriate. WWE is confusing character heat with product hate. I’m usually very positive about WWE product, but this finish is quite a “fuck you”. This finish is almost as annoying as Cena beating Batista with fucking duct tape.

[xrodmuc316]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Awesome to see <a href="https://twitter.com/BrockLesnar?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@BrockLesnar</a> win the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MoneyInTheBank?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MoneyInTheBank</a> match...even though he wasn’t officially entered! Brock is the future of the biz and this perfect example of genius booking shows why <a href="https://twitter.com/WWE?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@WWE</a> will remain on top FOREVER! <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/GoBrockGo?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#GoBrockGo</a></p>&mdash; Chris Jericho (@IAmJericho) <a href="https://twitter.com/IAmJericho/status/1130310678697435136?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 20, 2019</a></blockquote>
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Poor Jericho bitching about a 40 year old taking spots from younger guys. Guess Jericho thinks Brock should leave that to 50 year olds :lol:

[James Steele]

Poor Jericho bitching about a 40 year old taking spots from younger guys. Guess Jericho thinks Brock should leave that to 50 year olds :lol:

I’m betting Jericho will help make more stars in AEW in one year than Brock will have made through this entire megapush from WMXXX to when he is actually finished with his WWE career. Jericho will be to AEW what Terry Funk was to ECW.

[GD]

Poor Jericho bitching about a 40 year old taking spots from younger guys. Guess Jericho thinks Brock should leave that to 50 year olds :lol:

I don't believe Jericho was ever selfish when it came to putting over younger talent. He has every right to criticize WWE's mundane booking. This is genuinely one of the worst periods to be a WWE fan.

[GD]

Something tells me that Lesnar's MITB victory might have something to do with WWE Super Showdown. It is absolutely disheartening.

[xrodmuc316]

I’m betting Jericho will help make more stars in AEW in one year than Brock will have made through this entire megapush from WMXXX to when he is actually finished with his WWE career. Jericho will be to AEW what Terry Funk was to ECW.

*Jericho criticizes WWE booking

*wants us to believe a spinning back Elbow spot he stole from Andrade is some amazingly innovative and devastating finisher :roll:


I suppose though if the other guys in the MITB match didn't want to lose, they could have just cancelled the match right :D

[Emperor Smeat]

Caught up to the stuff I missed earlier, 2nd half of the show was a lot more enjoyable than the first half baring the terrible ending to the Men's MitB match.

Usos vs Bryan/Rowan was decent but was dumb having the Usos beat Bryan and Rowan, especially with Bryan eating the pin.

Men's MitB ladder match was better overall than the Women's but the Women's one had the better ending. Mandy arguably was the worst out of everyone in both MitB matches.

Mysterio vs Joe was mind blowing dumb. Besides having no reason for being as short as it was, the ref botched it big time with the pin count.

Cage match was decent but with a dumb result and wrong guy winning. :lol: at back-to-back PPVs where Miz lost via being dumb.

Cruiser title match was decent but legit surprised it got a spot on the main card.

Becky vs Lacey was good and arguably Lacey's best match in WWE/NXT soo far. Charlotte vs Becky was also pretty good but lost all interest with the ending sequence. Charlotte has become the female version of Cena/Orton with the amount of padded title reigns she has. Charlotte probably going to be a 10 time champ within a month or two with the way WWE handles Charlotte's title losses.

[Triple A]

Couldn't watch this tonight... Are there any matches I should def watch?

[DaveWadding]

Couldn't watch this tonight... Are there any matches I should def watch?

Def watch Styles/Rollins and the men's MITB

Prob watch the women's MITB and then the Becky/Charlotte/Lacey thing

[Mr. Nerfect]

I don't mind Brock winning MITB, because Brock is awesome and none of the talent in there are really main event level. At the same time, Jericho has a point. But WWE has more problems outside this bubble. That they don't have anyone to build next to Brock is an issue.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Lol, WWE are introducing a new title? I immediately went to either a Mixed Tag Title or some sort of floating mid-card belt. Vince hates "Television Title," but I can see it being some sort of "symbol of the wild card rule." A lot of people are saying Hardcore Title, but that just seems weird.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Was there really a "Yowie Wowie" chant when Finn Balor almost died? I think that shows how much people care.

[Mr. Nerfect]

So why wouldn't Finn invoke his Demon powers to be guaranteed the MitB case and almost guaranteed Universal title reign if he's involving the Demon to keep his IC belt at the next Saudi show.

Because nothing in WWE makes sense and it doesn't matter. Why would Finn think and operate like a human being?

Ratings are meaningless you self-satisfied arrogant assbandit.

No they're not, you fucking moron.

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Did you actually cancel?

Just cancelled my WWE Network subscription. Not here for Blood Money Mania, not interested in Brock doing the same 'ol, same 'ol.

Will re-subscribe when I feel it's worth the investment.

It's touching my soul to hear about people finally refusing to give this company money.

So Vince is undoubtedly doesn't see AEW as a viable threat right? It's the same song and dance. And maybe it's the same smug, cocky, false sense of security that he had when wcw started buying up ex talent and building to the nwo.

Pretty clear Vince doesn't care about anything but what he finds enjoyable as a product. I hope Double or Nothing and their live tv does big numbers. Something needs to change.

I think Vince thinks this is actually good stuff.

[Triple A]

I like Brock Lesnar

Like ideally they would create new stars, but they haven't and 99% of the roster is "just guys" and Lesnar is more interesting than the vast majority to me

[GD]

I like Brock Lesnar

Like ideally they would create new stars, but they haven't and 99% of the roster is "just guys" and Lesnar is more interesting than the vast majority to me

Sweet baby Jesus! Even if Lesnar is over, the MITB concept isn't meant for established stars even if Cena and Orton have held the briefcase in the past. It's a temporary "bandaid" solution. They're so "brand oriented" and avoiding creating new superstars, that their current model will crumble in a decade's time.

[Evil Vito]

Did you actually cancel?

Yep. I know we have differing opinions on Brock. I know he’s more than capable of putting on bangers when he’s motivated and facing the right opponent. But I largely find him dull as dishwater and that the company has to keep bending over backwards to bring him back because they’ve not even tried to build anyone else makes it worse.

My subscription ends June 6th, coincidentally the day before the next blood money show. Re-subbing was already a tough sell but this made the decision easier. The back catalog is nice, but I haven’t got the time to utilize it.

In terms of current stuff, I still enjoy NXT (I treat it as a stand-alone product and ignore that everyone will be ruined when they get called up). But I can watch that on Hulu so why spend another $10?

I’ve got tickets to Takeover in a couple weeks which I’m fine with as I know I’ll be getting a great show. But that’ll be my last WWE expenditure for a long time.

[Evil Vito]

Get yourself cooler, lay yourself low
Coincidental murder, with nothing to show
When the judge's constipation go to his head
And his wife's aggravation, you're soon enough dead
It's the same old story, same old song and dance, my friend
It's the same old story, same old song and dance, my friend
Gotcha with the cocaine they found with your gun
No smoothy face lawyer to getcha undone
Say love ain't the same on the south side of town
You could look, but you ain't gonna find it around
It's the same old story, same old song and dance, my friend
It's the same old story, same old story
Same old song and dance
Fate comes a-knockin', doors start lockin'
Your old time connection, change your direction
Ain't gonna change it, can't rearrange it
Can't stand the pain when it's all the same to you, my friend
When you're low down and dirty, from walkin' the street
With your old hurdy-gurdy, no one to meet
Say love ain't the same, on the south side of town
You could look, but you ain't gonna find it around
It's the same old story, same old song and dance, my friend
It's the same old story, same old story
Same old song and dance, yeah

[Mr. Nerfect]

Motherfucker, shut the fuck up! You've been talking shit about the company since forever. Let people express themselves FFS!

That’s a weird outburst. What in there isn’t allowing people to express themselves? Weird.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Yep. I know we have differing opinions on Brock. I know he’s more than capable of putting on bangers when he’s motivated and facing the right opponent. But I largely find him dull as dishwater and that the company has to keep bending over backwards to bring him back because they’ve not even tried to build anyone else makes it worse.

My subscription ends June 6th, coincidentally the day before the next blood money show. Re-subbing was already a tough sell but this made the decision easier. The back catalog is nice, but I haven’t got the time to utilize it.

In terms of current stuff, I still enjoy NXT (I treat it as a stand-alone product and ignore that everyone will be ruined when they get called up). But I can watch that on Hulu so why spend another $10?

I’ve got tickets to Takeover in a couple weeks which I’m fine with as I know I’ll be getting a great show. But that’ll be my last WWE expenditure for a long time.

Good for you, man.

I mean, it’s a frustrating thing the company has gotten you to this point, but I hope you feel better doing it.

I like Brock, but the general feeling of the company is enough for me to root against them. It’s not the right tone to be striking with your fans right now. Good riddance to them.

[Splaya]

I can't believe I am saying this, but I am looking forward to AEW starting up now. It will at least give a shift towards what wrestling "could be" again.

I didn't even wake up mad or upset. Just really disappointed. Everything about that ladder match screamed about "making the star" like they had claimed at one point. Turning someone from a mid card into what could be a future star.

I really hope that they hold off on him cashing in till the Fox show when they debut there as it will actually work out then. Have them tease it for awhile till they actually pull the trigger. But I can really see them having him cash in at Saudimania, which will anger myself (and a lot of people as well).

[KIRA]

I’m betting Jericho will help make more stars in AEW in one year than Brock will have made through this entire megapush from WMXXX to when he is actually finished with his WWE career. Jericho will be to AEW what Terry Funk was to ECW.

Bingo

[Gerard]

Vince has really got his finger on the pulse of the audience. Ratings down, attendance down, so let's bring back a 2 move wonder who has to carry a Jew around in his pocket to talk for him.

I'm only surprised he climbed the ladder himself and didn't send tubsy wubsy up it. :roll:

[Jordan]

I missed thr show due to American Idol and GOT Finale but it seems that everything sucked last night that I wanted to be good.

[slik]

I missed thr show due to American Idol and GOT Finale but it seems that everything sucked last night that I wanted to be good.

The action in both MITB matches was good and Seth/AJ was really good -- but I would say the rest of the show was 'not so hot' for me, personally.

[Splaya]

The action in both MITB matches was good and Seth/AJ was really good -- but I would say the rest of the show was 'not so hot' for me, personally.

Bayley cashing in really helped with the quality of the show. While many saw it coming, they completely flipped the script with her. She went from being an after thought to having possibly the biggest night of her WWE career.

Both MITB matches were good. The men's match was CRAZY, especially for some of the spots that were put out. Finn Balor has to be sore as hell but from what I have read, he escaped serious injury. Everyone did their job in that match and the saddest part is that it did not matter at all.

I won't be surprised at all if I hear about the talent in the locker room being upset with the result from tonight, especially those in the ladder match. I know we joke about ladder matches being career shorteners, but for some of the guys, they did do that tonight. And for what....NOTHING. Finn Balor isn't more over because he took a powerbomb onto a ladder. Andrade's sunset flip on that powerbomb is just another spot instead of it being the move that "changed everything". Even someone like Orton looks like a chump.

My question would be when did they decide to give Brock the briefcase. Saturday? Last Monday?

Just an overall disappointing night for WWE when they were so much good that could have happened.

[Splaya]

Like if instead of Brock you had Bray win. That would have been a MOMENT. And Bray sulking in the shadows with that briefcase all the time would have been gold.

[Volare]

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[slik]

I am sure Brock winning was all to set-up his (already announced via their own f'n press release) Seth vs Brock at SSD. I can't see them having Brock keep it until October, they are clearly not booking anything long-term right now, just throwing lots of crap at the wall.

I also assume this new title is related to SSD as well, not unlike The WWE World Cup & Crown Jewel.

[slik]

I'm still going to turn RAW on in the background tonight, but my subscription ends in a few days for the Network.

Hoping AEW can provide an alternate, it's really needed right now.

[slik]

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[KIRA]

Sweet baby Jesus! Even if Lesnar is over, the MITB concept isn't meant for established stars even if Cena and Orton have held the briefcase in the past. It's a temporary "bandaid" solution. They're so "brand oriented" and avoiding creating new superstars, that their current model will crumble in a decade's time.

Agreed they pretty much killed one of the main draws of the Money in the Bank briefcase is that somebody who isn't already a 19 time world champion could suddenly win this thing

[Splaya]

So apparently Ali was supposed to win the briefcase. He and the other 6 wrestlers were told during the day that he would not be winning but that he would be near the belt and someone would come out and knock him off the ladder and that person would win the match.

Gee, wonder why you had to hide from your entire roster that Brock was going to run out and win the match. Screw Vince. Such awful booking and way to shove two middle fingers in the face of the guys who were in that match

[#1-norm-fan]

I like Brock Lesnar

Like ideally they would create new stars, but they haven't and 99% of the roster is "just guys" and Lesnar is more interesting than the vast majority to me

Yeah. The MITB gimmick is kinda dumb and isn’t gonna solely make a star. They need to actually put long term effort into making a star. Until they do that, Brock should take precedent over everyone.

[GD]

I have no interest in the unveiling of the new title tonight. Usually such things excite me but I am expecting them to do something revolting. Unless it’s a workrate themed junior heavyweight title. Which is probably not going to happen.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Yeah. The MITB gimmick is kinda dumb and isn’t gonna solely make a star. They need to actually put long term effort into making a star. Until they do that, Brock should take precedent over everyone.

Yeah, the MITB gimmick is a lazy substitute for a an actual push.

Lol, if that Ali/Brock Lesnar story is true though? Man.

[xrodmuc316]

So apparently Ali was supposed to win the briefcase. He and the other 6 wrestlers were told during the day that he would not be winning but that he would be near the belt and someone would come out and knock him off the ladder and that person would win the match.

Gee, wonder why you had to hide from your entire roster that Brock was going to run out and win the match. Screw Vince. Such awful booking and way to shove two middle fingers in the face of the guys who were in that match

I mean it's not like Brock EVER dresses with the other guys. The extent of keeping Brock a surprise is not advertising him.

[Emperor Smeat]

Yeah. The MITB gimmick is kinda dumb and isn’t gonna solely make a star. They need to actually put long term effort into making a star. Until they do that, Brock should take precedent over everyone.

If they didn't spend months trying to tell fans that Brock is a terrible choice to be champion and he's too lazy for WWE's own good, maybe him winning the MitB case would have been more effective.

Only upside to him winning the MitB case is less cash-in teases since he rarely shows up to RAW to begin with.

Assuming the stuff about Ali is true, they could have used that victory to begin building him up as their next potential big star or at least pick Ricochet since Vince needing a star to build up quickly was the main reason for his callup.

[GD]

So apparently Ali was supposed to win the briefcase. He and the other 6 wrestlers were told during the day that he would not be winning but that he would be near the belt and someone would come out and knock him off the ladder and that person would win the match.

Gee, wonder why you had to hide from your entire roster that Brock was going to run out and win the match. Screw Vince. Such awful booking and way to shove two middle fingers in the face of the guys who were in that match

I guess they didn't want the surprise to leak before hand. Doesn't excuse for the horrible booking of the briefcase as of late. Even if the holder doesn't win, it can help elevate them to a certain level and possibly add credibility.

[Droford]

So apparently Ali was supposed to win the briefcase. He and the other 6 wrestlers were told during the day that he would not be winning but that he would be near the belt and someone would come out and knock him off the ladder and that person would win the match.

Gee, wonder why you had to hide from your entire roster that Brock was going to run out and win the match. Screw Vince. Such awful booking and way to shove two middle fingers in the face of the guys who were in that match

I'm going to assume they thought Sami was coming out to win it.

[GD]

Post Wrestling's John Pollock alluded to the concept of the new championship.

Possibly a 24/7 themed title.

[slik]

Yeah, cause they do soooooo much with all those current titles we definitely need another one

[#1-norm-fan]

Yeah. The MITB gimmick is kinda dumb and isn’t gonna solely make a star. They need to actually put long term effort into making a star. Until they do that, Brock should take precedent over everyone.

If they didn't spend months trying to tell fans that Brock is a terrible choice to be champion and he's too lazy for WWE's own good, maybe him winning the MitB case would have been more effective.

Only upside to him winning the MitB case is less cash-in teases since he rarely shows up to RAW to begin with.

Assuming the stuff about Ali is true, they could have used that victory to begin building him up as their next potential big star or at least pick Ricochet since Vince needing a star to build up quickly was the main reason for his callup.

Don’t get me wrong. I’m not defending WWE’s decisions leading up to this moment or the decisions to come. I’m just saying that the failure to build stars was done before last night and last night was not going to suddenly fix the problem OR overcome their shitty long-term booking in the future.

Given those facts, putting the lame gimmick on a guy who matters was the right move. Especially if the options were building a story for Brock fucking Lesnar or using the case to try to build Ali as a major star. Lol

[XL]

I quite like the idea that the spectre of a Brock cash-in will play in the background and that he could show up at any time to cash in, but I have to put faith in WWE being able to book that.

[XL]

Of course, if this is just used for Saudi then I take that back.

[XL]

I was expecting them to do a Bailey turn with her looking like she was cashing in on Charlotte only to roll her out and Becky in to take the Raw belt.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Seth v Brock is made for Saudi, no briefcase needed. Seth wins with an inside cradle or some time of flash pin. Brock destroys him post match, cashes in, wins, and we get the same "he's a shit champ" storyline going into Mania next yr.

[Mr. Nerfect]

The most insulting thing is someone walking in and winning a match in that fashion. The MITB gimmick probably should have kayfabe been rectified after Edge used the initial loophole. The gimmick is a bit shitty.

[Evil Vito]

Yeah. The concept could work. RVD cashed in "honorably" the second year by announcing his cash-in in advance, albeit it forcing Cena to wrestle in front of a hostile ECW crowd. The wrestler can pick an advantageous spot without it being overly cheap.

As it is now, everyone expects the easy cash-in and the only other two people to give advance notice of their cash-ins (Cena and Braun) both failed to win the belt, which does nothing but make them look like big stupid heads.

[Splaya]

The most insulting thing is someone walking in and winning a match in that fashion. The MITB gimmick probably should have kayfabe been rectified after Edge used the initial loophole. The gimmick is a bit shitty.

The problem lies in the fact that they would give the briefcase to an established star who should not need a sneak attack to challenge for a championship

When you make it for a midcard guy or upper mid card guy who you want to elevate to the next level, then the briefcase makes perfect sense. It allows them to make that leap without damaging the credibility of the champion who loses the belt to them.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Who has actually got something out of the concept? And who got something out of it that couldn't have been achieved with a better push? Edge, CM Punk, Daniel Bryan and Seth Rollins might be the only guys that have ended up in better places after having won the briefcase, and I don't think any of their later successes, outside of maybe Edge, has been because of the briefcase. Punk really got there because of his 2011 promo, Bryan the fans seeing him screwed out of the secondary title and Rollins has kind of default ended up in his position because he's consistent.

A credible champion should not need to sneak attack and win the belt. Damaging the credibility of the champion should not be a factor when you are pushing someone legitimately into place. If you're concerned with damaging the reputation of Wrestler A by putting Wrestler B over, then maybe you shouldn't put Wrestler B over?

If Drew McIntyre had won the briefcase, then on some random Raw he, Bobby Lashley and Baron Corbin beat up Rollins with some steel steps, like they do everyone, and then McIntyre technically wins the Universal Title...does anyone care? He's still Drew McIntyre. He's still the exact same guy without any changes to his perception except now he is technically the guy who holds the belt. What does that mean?

It would have more impact if McIntyre just destroyed Seth Rollins in a singles match for the belt. Or if they did the exact same thing as a MITB scenario, except Vince McMahon sanctions the match because Drew is once again his golden boy. I mean, it would be horrible, but it would be the same as a shock cash-in except there's a storyline reason that it is happening personally to Drew Mac. Everyone has been trying to inherit Edge's gimmick instead of finding their own.