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Supreme Olajuwon
07-08-2019, 07:32 PM
Here’s a video of Cryme Tyme looking swole as fuck

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Supreme Olajuwon
07-08-2019, 07:35 PM
As much as WWE loves to rehash absolutely everything that was moderately successful, the fact that Cryme Tyme, MVP, and Mark Henry didn’t reform the Nation of Domination is a god damn travesty.

Also excited to see what Paul Heyman has in store for us tonight!

ClockShot
07-08-2019, 07:52 PM
BROOKLYN, BROOKLYN!

Evil Vito
07-08-2019, 08:02 PM
Gonna be focused on the Home Run Derby

GO BIG MEAT PETE!

Emperor Smeat
07-08-2019, 08:02 PM
:eek: 2nd week in a row RAW starts off with a match.

DAMN iNATOR
07-08-2019, 08:03 PM
Calling it now - Shane picks Miz as Roman's "mystery" partner.

ClockShot
07-08-2019, 08:03 PM
Ugh. The happy couple to open up the show.

Emperor Smeat
07-08-2019, 08:04 PM
Guess the rumor of RAW getting a new set after breaking it last week was wrong or at least that wasn't the reason for Strowman's spear through it.

ClockShot
07-08-2019, 08:05 PM
Nice to see Andrade back.

Would have been better if Charlotte was in this match instead of Zelina.

:lol:

DAMN iNATOR
07-08-2019, 08:05 PM
Guess the rumor of RAW getting a new set after breaking it last week was wrong or at least that wasn't the reason for Strowman's spear through it.

It would be (maybe) better eye candy at the very least if the weekly shows' sets weren't so minimalist.

xrodmuc316
07-08-2019, 08:06 PM
Vega mmmmm

Anybody Thrilla
07-08-2019, 08:07 PM
Love me some Vega. Andrade is tight too. Actually, I like everyone in this match.

xrodmuc316
07-08-2019, 08:07 PM
Calling it now - Shane picks Miz as Roman's "mystery" partner.

Miz isn't there, he is at the Home Run Derby, will be playing in celebrity softball game.

Edit: Nevermind, guess that was yesterday lol

Evil Vito
07-08-2019, 08:08 PM
Miz isn't there, he is at the Home Run Derby, will be playing in celebrity softball game.

The game was taped yesterday

ClockShot
07-08-2019, 08:10 PM
Break time!

Supreme Olajuwon
07-08-2019, 08:11 PM
YOU CANT HAVE A MIXED TAG ELIMINATION MATCH IF THE MEN CANT WRESTLE THE WOMEN


WHY ARE THEY SO DUMB

Anybody Thrilla
07-08-2019, 08:11 PM
Mixed tag elimination seems stupid. Say Andrade beats Seth in the next fall...then what happens?

Anybody Thrilla
07-08-2019, 08:11 PM
YOU CANT HAVE A MIXED TAG ELIMINATION MATCH IF THE MEN CANT WRESTLE THE WOMEN


WHY ARE THEY SO DUMB

Yeah, exactly

KIRA
07-08-2019, 08:12 PM
Seth control your woman.

RP
07-08-2019, 08:12 PM
Why is this an Elimination match if the girls cant fight the guys?

KIRA
07-08-2019, 08:12 PM
Yeah, exactly

Yeah there are more than a few things wrong with the WWE version of a mixed tag

slik
07-08-2019, 08:13 PM
Wish Paul Heyman would give Becky Lynch a telekinesis gimmick

xrodmuc316
07-08-2019, 08:13 PM
Mixed tag elimination seems stupid. Say Andrade beats Seth in the next fall...then what happens?

Corey would feign confusion.
Renee would say "Oh what"

Emperor Smeat
07-08-2019, 08:14 PM
Sort of hoping that Rollins gets pinned just to see if WWE actually goes through with having an intergender match for the 3rd fall.

slik
07-08-2019, 08:15 PM
lol @ Michael Cole saying 'really this is one on one now'

ClockShot
07-08-2019, 08:16 PM
Sort of hoping that Rollins gets pinned just to see if WWE actually goes through with having an intergender match for the 3rd fall.

Then we'll know Vince or Paul's been watching Impact for ideas.

KIRA
07-08-2019, 08:17 PM
Tree of woe double stomp never looks good

xrodmuc316
07-08-2019, 08:18 PM
Dumb rules aside, this has been a hot opener for Raw.

RP
07-08-2019, 08:18 PM
OHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

Anybody Thrilla
07-08-2019, 08:19 PM
How is it that literally every person in this thread sees the problem with this match, but it made it all the way to air?

Also, Seth doesn't have to check on Becky like she's some delicate flower. She's the women's fucking champion.

KIRA
07-08-2019, 08:19 PM
Soooooo becky cant be tagged in....why is she still there

Anybody Thrilla
07-08-2019, 08:19 PM
Dumb rules aside, this has been a hot opener for Raw.

True

Supreme Olajuwon
07-08-2019, 08:20 PM
Feel like I hate Seth and Becky now for no other reason than the way Michael Cole says “boyfriend”

Anybody Thrilla
07-08-2019, 08:20 PM
Women's revolution: Becky's punches are laughable to Baron Corbin.

ClockShot
07-08-2019, 08:21 PM
Here comes the boss.

Emperor Smeat
07-08-2019, 08:21 PM
Mixed tag match was pretty good. Elimination stip was useless and just another reason why Vince's "no wrestling during commercials" rule is stupid.

KIRA
07-08-2019, 08:22 PM
Becky should have kicked him in the dick

KIRA
07-08-2019, 08:25 PM
I hope the things I've been hearing about the reasons Vince keeps pushing Baron Corbin aren't true

slik
07-08-2019, 08:25 PM
Paul Heyman should strip everyone of their titles and bring back Great Khali but now w/ a GOT gimmick called Great Khaleesi

Evil Vito
07-08-2019, 08:25 PM
Damn, 21 dingers for Joc Pederson in the first round

RP
07-08-2019, 08:26 PM
Lacy threw a bomb

ClockShot
07-08-2019, 08:27 PM
"I'm also the supreme overlord of Monday Night Raw."

KIRA
07-08-2019, 08:28 PM
NOBODY TALKS THIS WAY FFS

Anybody Thrilla
07-08-2019, 08:28 PM
Another fake cash in, tight

KIRA
07-08-2019, 08:30 PM
They shouldn't keep baiting the audience like this

ClockShot
07-08-2019, 08:30 PM
Nah. This wasn't shocking, Cole. Seen it before.

Now. Braun going to the point of almost murdering Roman Reigns a couple years ago, that was great stuff.

Supreme Olajuwon
07-08-2019, 08:32 PM
Nah. This wasn't shocking, Cole. Seen it before.

Now. Braun going to the point of almost murdering Roman Reigns a couple years ago, that was great stuff.

Or Bobby’s cage spot with Umaga. Now that was shocking.

KIRA
07-08-2019, 08:33 PM
Pretty sure that guy in the crowd was just rolling his eyes

ClockShot
07-08-2019, 08:34 PM
I'd figure The Miz would get a few extra days off and hang out in Cleveland for the All-Star game.

I knew he did the celebrity game, didn't expect him to be in the building today.

Emperor Smeat
07-08-2019, 08:35 PM
Another multi-falls match after just having one not even 30 minutes ago.

Evil Vito
07-08-2019, 08:37 PM
Vlad Jr is the real deal

Anybody Thrilla
07-08-2019, 08:38 PM
There's got to be a better way to handle this "no wrestling during commercials" thing if they're really hell-bent on keeping it.

Evil Vito
07-08-2019, 08:41 PM
Down goes Josh Hamilton’s record

Anybody Thrilla
07-08-2019, 08:43 PM
Down goes Josh Hamilton’s record

I wonder if anyone is posting in the sports forum tonight. *COUGH*

slik
07-08-2019, 08:44 PM
WWE should do a storyline where Seth has an affair with Stephanie and it leads to Becky/HHH vs Steph/Seth in the main-event of WM36

slik
07-08-2019, 08:44 PM
Win a Date w/ Tad Hamilton

slik
07-08-2019, 08:44 PM
Topher Grace

slik
07-08-2019, 08:44 PM
Take Me Home Tonight

slik
07-08-2019, 08:46 PM
This episode of RAW is single elimination, after one match ends only the remaining matches can still air.

Emperor Smeat
07-08-2019, 08:47 PM
There's got to be a better way to handle this "no wrestling during commercials" thing if they're really hell-bent on keeping it.

Easiest solution would be to write the show around those breaks since for the most part, they normally happen at set intervals like with other shows. Instead Dunn being a moron and WWE needing to air more commercials because they haven't hit their ad numbers makes that a lot harder than it should be.

Also doesn't help that Vince completely ignored how commercials actually work during sports games.

Evil Vito
07-08-2019, 08:47 PM
I wonder if anyone is posting in the sports forum tonight. *COUGH*

#CloseTheSportsForum
#OneOffTopicForum

Anybody Thrilla
07-08-2019, 08:48 PM
It's one thing to not have titles mean anything with champs losing non-title matches, but not PINFALLS don't even mean anything in 2 out of 3 fall matches. This is getting hard to invest in.

slik
07-08-2019, 08:48 PM
Wish Topher Grace would get hired to play the role of Zelina's evil henchman

Anybody Thrilla
07-08-2019, 08:49 PM
#CloseTheSportsForum
#OneOffTopicForum

This is still the July 8 Raw THREAD, no matter what.

Anybody Thrilla
07-08-2019, 08:51 PM
We've fallen quite a ways from those bomb ass Shield six man tags every week.

RP
07-08-2019, 08:52 PM
This is so boring

RP
07-08-2019, 08:53 PM
Drakes wife looks like she like's the bbc

KIRA
07-08-2019, 08:53 PM
Im still trying to grasp Miz as a face

Jordan
07-08-2019, 08:53 PM
I want to see The Uso's and Roman tear up against a Shane led trio like The Shield and Wyatt Family.

Also I feel like "Seth and Becky" marginalizes Becky because she's also "Seth's girlfriend"... and that's not as cool as "The Man".

Emperor Smeat
07-08-2019, 08:54 PM
Drake's honeymoon skits have been great.

Anybody Thrilla
07-08-2019, 08:54 PM
She's fairly hot m

slik
07-08-2019, 08:55 PM
Drake Maverick's wife is very pretty

Evil Vito
07-08-2019, 08:55 PM
Drake did very well for himself

Anybody Thrilla
07-08-2019, 08:56 PM
Will Bray answer Rey's open challenge? Also, why didn't Aleister Black just try a traditional open challenge before he got all silly?

slik
07-08-2019, 08:57 PM
Becky should turn heel and have an affair with HHH. Stephanie then turns face and WM is headlined by Steph pinning evil heel Becky Lynch in a single elimination mixed tag match.

Anybody Thrilla
07-08-2019, 08:59 PM
I thought Bo was Bray for a second in that Pizza Hut commercial, and I got worried.

Evil Vito
07-08-2019, 08:59 PM
If Roman eats a pin, everybody dies

Droford
07-08-2019, 09:00 PM
WWE does a Pizza Hut commercial and they dont fucking give Becky a cameo in the "Becky look at that crust" commercial? smdh

slik
07-08-2019, 09:00 PM
The Big Heart Rey Masterio up next

Droford
07-08-2019, 09:01 PM
If Roman eats a pin, everybody dies
Speed Leukemia - if Roman ever loses the Leukemia comes back

xrodmuc316
07-08-2019, 09:02 PM
I hope Dominic accepts

Anybody Thrilla
07-08-2019, 09:03 PM
Does it bother anyone else that they spell it "ALL MIGHTY" and not "ALMIGHTY"?

Emperor Smeat
07-08-2019, 09:04 PM
And just like that, all the excitement in Rey's Open Challenge invitation is gone.

Anybody Thrilla
07-08-2019, 09:04 PM
Welcome ba--...oh, that was quick.

Evil Vito
07-08-2019, 09:05 PM
Wonder if Rey regrets coming back to WWE

Evil Vito
07-08-2019, 09:05 PM
Bray Wyatt will never debut

RP
07-08-2019, 09:05 PM
Welcome back Rey! Goodbye Rey!

Emperor Smeat
07-08-2019, 09:06 PM
The opening mixed tag match and Drake's 24/7 shenanigans has been the only interesting stuff from tonight's show soo far.

Anybody Thrilla
07-08-2019, 09:06 PM
I thought we were about to get a Nash lawn dart redux through the set.

Anybody Thrilla
07-08-2019, 09:07 PM
Beat the Clock has never been fun. Not once.

erickman
07-08-2019, 09:08 PM
I thought we were about to get a Nash lawn dart redux through the set.

I was thinking that too ray still makes a great lawn dart

xrodmuc316
07-08-2019, 09:09 PM
Vlad Jr went for 29, that's 9 more then his age lol

Evil Vito
07-08-2019, 09:13 PM
Beat the Clock has never been fun. Not once.

I was at a Raw show with a Beat the Clock stip once. Only memorable part was Angle being assigned to face Daivari (his manager). Ref refused to count, Angle chased him around the arena, Daivari wins on countout.

The stip is lame and hamstrings what you can actually do.

Evil Vito
07-08-2019, 09:14 PM
Also, being beaten outright in a beat the clock match means your opponent should get your spot.

Anybody Thrilla
07-08-2019, 09:15 PM
Jose seems to be in good shape. I'm scared he might win.

Jordan
07-08-2019, 09:16 PM
No way Jose absolutely sucks.

Anybody Thrilla
07-08-2019, 09:18 PM
Are the Street Profits explaining the show to the black audience?

Jordan
07-08-2019, 09:19 PM
LOL Street Profits are great.

Anybody Thrilla
07-08-2019, 09:19 PM
...and did I just hear that they're going to DISCUSS the Beat the Clock challenge before it happens?

I dunno anymore, guys. I just don't know.

Jordan
07-08-2019, 09:20 PM
...and did I just hear that they're going to DISCUSS the Beat the Clock challenge before it happens?

I dunno anymore, guys. I just don't know.

:yes:

RP
07-08-2019, 09:21 PM
Nothing says Extreme like Dirty Honey

Supreme Olajuwon
07-08-2019, 09:23 PM
Street Profits very sports entertaining.

Anybody Thrilla
07-08-2019, 09:24 PM
Street Profits very sports entertaining.

Angelo Dawkins reppin' the Nati!

KIRA
07-08-2019, 09:24 PM
Ladies and gentlemen Mike kinellas finest hour

Emperor Smeat
07-08-2019, 09:25 PM
Somehow I shouldn't be surprised that WWE would come up with something really terrible for the payoff of Mike Kanellis's 205 Live departure storyline.

Whatever potential he had returning back to the main roster was DOA after last week.

KIRA
07-08-2019, 09:26 PM
Maria's new gimmick a hormonal bitch

Anybody Thrilla
07-08-2019, 09:27 PM
"Hold on, ladies! Before this potentially gets exciting, let's stop everything and remind these idiots what a Beat the Clock challenge is!"

xrodmuc316
07-08-2019, 09:28 PM
Asking Bayley to cut promos every week is like asking Great Khali to have technical wrestling matches every week.

Play to strengths WWE.

Evil Vito
07-08-2019, 09:30 PM
BAH GAWD PETE ALONSO HAS TURNED HEEL

RP
07-08-2019, 09:32 PM
Why the fuck did Carmella just check a milk crate for Drake Maverick? Seriously?

Anybody Thrilla
07-08-2019, 09:32 PM
Double J reference

Anybody Thrilla
07-08-2019, 09:33 PM
Why the fuck did Carmella just check a milk crate for Drake Maverick? Seriously?

Maybe they're saying he's a child. Like a lost one on a milk carton.

Evil Vito
07-08-2019, 09:34 PM
GO ERIK GO!!!

Droford
07-08-2019, 09:35 PM
305 live would only be more annoying if it was cole saying it

RP
07-08-2019, 09:41 PM
I'd drink a cup of Maria's placenta juice just to smell the inside of Alexa Bliss's toilet after being used by her without being flushed for a week.

Triple A
07-08-2019, 09:42 PM
insanely low energy quiet monotone backstage interview by Roman Reigns

Anybody Thrilla
07-08-2019, 09:44 PM
insanely low energy quiet monotone backstage interview by Roman Reigns

Clearly he's been training with The Undertaker.

Anybody Thrilla
07-08-2019, 09:45 PM
Is Ricochet blown up already? And could that promo have sucked much more? And did he just spoil the match?

Anybody Thrilla
07-08-2019, 09:46 PM
Prediction: Ricochet wins, gets jumped, commercial, return to a Ricochet v. Anderson match.

Supreme Olajuwon
07-08-2019, 09:51 PM
This is an incredible home run derby but the production is fucking awful. Not WWE awful but awfully awful.

Emperor Smeat
07-08-2019, 09:52 PM
Pretty flat and terrible ending to the Ricochet vs. Gallows match

Jordan
07-08-2019, 09:54 PM
I can't imagine Gallows walking on those legs for five more years much less wrestling for WWE.

RP
07-08-2019, 09:55 PM
Ricochet might not have the gas to go 3 match if he finger blasted himself before the match.

Anybody Thrilla
07-08-2019, 09:55 PM
That's because he's facing Anderson next, as I predicted.

Jordan
07-08-2019, 09:55 PM
Ricochet might not have the gas to go 3 match if he finger blasted himself before the match.

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

Jordan
07-08-2019, 09:56 PM
I love heel AJ

Jordan
07-08-2019, 09:57 PM
Anderson looks better with long tights.

Jordan
07-08-2019, 10:01 PM
The camera work during these punches is just revolting.

Anybody Thrilla
07-08-2019, 10:01 PM
I kinda feel like AJ needs to win on Sunday now. He won't. But he should.

Triple A
07-08-2019, 10:07 PM
huge can`s

Emperor Smeat
07-08-2019, 10:08 PM
:lol:

Anybody Thrilla
07-08-2019, 10:12 PM
Gary the Janitor and Beat the Clock. Gonna be a rough finish.

Droford
07-08-2019, 10:15 PM
Logan looks..different

Droford
07-08-2019, 10:16 PM
How long til shes Sara the Viking Experience mascot?

RP
07-08-2019, 10:16 PM
So if Bayley has to beat the clock, shouldnt it be counting down instead of counting up?

xrodmuc316
07-08-2019, 10:17 PM
So Sarah Logan still has Riott Squad music and titantron, but Renee just said Sarah broke away from the Riott Squad?

Shit is confusing...

Anybody Thrilla
07-08-2019, 10:17 PM
It's been mentioned twice now that's Sarah Logan is no longer with the Riott Squad, but she definitely used the theme and the graphics.

xrodmuc316
07-08-2019, 10:18 PM
So if Bayley has to beat the clock, shouldnt it be counting down instead of counting up?

Another flaw of that concept, the first person doesn't beat the clock, they set they clock.

Anybody Thrilla
07-08-2019, 10:18 PM
Logan looks..different

I think she let some of her dreads out.

Anybody Thrilla
07-08-2019, 10:19 PM
So Sarah Logan still has Riott Squad music and titantron, but Renee just said Sarah broke away from the Riott Squad?

Shit is confusing...

Thank you

RP
07-08-2019, 10:19 PM
Logan is a Viking/Indian/Hunter/Hippy/Hobo mix

Emperor Smeat
07-08-2019, 10:20 PM
Took a little over 3 minutes before the crowd had enough with this Beat The Clock match.

Droford
07-08-2019, 10:21 PM
Another flaw of that concept, the first person doesn't beat the clock, they set they clock.

well if the first person loses all the 2nd has to do is win, Id think anyway

also I was hoping for a freudian beat the cock slip to go with the new edgier wwe..not yet damnit

Anybody Thrilla
07-08-2019, 10:21 PM
I guess the good thing in all this is that Dana Brooke isn't as injured as she appeared to be.

Droford
07-08-2019, 10:22 PM
Beat the cock challenge..fastest to grab a chicken in the ring Rocky style wins

xrodmuc316
07-08-2019, 10:23 PM
I guess the good thing in all this is that Dana Brooke isn't as injured as she appeared to be.

Dana Brooke is built to take shots to the face

Anybody Thrilla
07-08-2019, 10:24 PM
Beat the cock challenge..fastest to grab a chicken in the ring Rocky style wins

Why do I feel like Sarah Logan would have a huge advantage there?

Droford
07-08-2019, 10:24 PM
I think she let some of her dreads out.

I was thinking she lost weight

RP
07-08-2019, 10:24 PM
All this is probably for some simple stipulation like Ladders.

Droford
07-08-2019, 10:24 PM
Dana Brooke is built to take shots to the face

*rimshot*

Anybody Thrilla
07-08-2019, 10:25 PM
Dana is a face now. She shouldn't be trying to con a victory. She should be looking to make a name for herself by beating Nikki's ass.

I hate this.

Droford
07-08-2019, 10:25 PM
All this is probably for some simple stipulation like Ladders.

Alexa wins bag of alexa bliss's coffee beans on a pole match

winner is the one to get the beans, grind them and brew a pot of coffee

Anybody Thrilla
07-08-2019, 10:25 PM
I was thinking she lost weight

Possibly both

xrodmuc316
07-08-2019, 10:25 PM
All this is probably for some simple stipulation like Ladders.

Naw, tables, like when Lexi beat Becks for her first Smackdown title

Droford
07-08-2019, 10:27 PM
Nikki Cross on a pole match

xrodmuc316
07-08-2019, 10:27 PM
Crossroads for the win!

Emperor Smeat
07-08-2019, 10:28 PM
Those clock eating shenanigans at the beginning with Dana barely made any sense considering she was helping Bayley who isn't a chickenshit heel.

Also both of the Beat The Clock matches were not good at all.

Droford
07-08-2019, 10:28 PM
alexa bless

Droford
07-08-2019, 10:29 PM
lol

I feel bad for Nikki, shes terrible on the mic

RP
07-08-2019, 10:29 PM
Alexa Blass

Droford
07-08-2019, 10:31 PM
Nikki pins bayley probably..right?

Triple A
07-08-2019, 10:31 PM
Crowd turning on Bayley as usual

Anybody Thrilla
07-08-2019, 10:31 PM
Becky should just still have two belts if they're gonna be silly about it.

Triple A
07-08-2019, 10:31 PM
lol

I feel bad for Nikki, shes terrible on the mic

I think she's good

Emperor Smeat
07-08-2019, 10:32 PM
:lol: at Dana slowly crawling away in the background during the post-match stuff between Nikki and Bayley.

xrodmuc316
07-08-2019, 10:32 PM
So if they are putting the janitor in a mask, could it be a "Fiend" Mask? :eek:

Droford
07-08-2019, 10:36 PM
jesus christ

Droford
07-08-2019, 10:37 PM
So if they are putting the janitor in a mask, could it be a "Fiend" Mask? :eek:

shirt idea

"you got a fiend in me"

Anybody Thrilla
07-08-2019, 10:37 PM
While it's a completely dumb angle, Mike Kanellis showed some charisma tonight. Also, I dunno why, but I laughed at the giant jar of pickles.

Droford
07-08-2019, 10:38 PM
mr emo head

Droford
07-08-2019, 10:39 PM
If Brock cashes in does he get to bring Sable?

xrodmuc316
07-08-2019, 10:41 PM
Sauna towel lol

DAMN iNATOR
07-08-2019, 10:41 PM
Dear Street Profits,

Please never attempt to impersonate The Rock again.

Triple A
07-08-2019, 10:41 PM
Why did they call up the NXT Tag Team Champions to have them do promos for Extreme Rules...

Anybody Thrilla
07-08-2019, 10:43 PM
What are the chances of Shelton Benjamin in a mask tonight?

RP
07-08-2019, 10:43 PM
So the Street Prophets are pretty much DOA.

Emperor Smeat
07-08-2019, 10:48 PM
Why did they call up the NXT Tag Team Champions to have them do promos for Extreme Rules...

Because Paul Heyman wanted them on RAW again this week?

Tonight was not a good showcase for them. Just comes off as them trying way too hard and going way overboard compared to their debut last week.

Anybody Thrilla
07-08-2019, 10:50 PM
Because Paul Heyman wanted them on RAW again this week?

Tonight was not a good showcase for them. Just comes off as them trying way too hard and going way overboard compared to their debut last week.

WWE hasn't capitalized on a good thing in what seems like a decade plus.

Anybody Thrilla
07-08-2019, 10:52 PM
That better be Shelton Benjamin.

RP
07-08-2019, 10:52 PM
Dont look like Gary.

Triple A
07-08-2019, 10:53 PM
Bootleg Hulk Hogan Real American theme

RP
07-08-2019, 10:53 PM
Gonna guess Xavier Woods.

Emperor Smeat
07-08-2019, 10:53 PM
Gary looks like he's going to shit his pants at any moment based on that awkward walk.

Anybody Thrilla
07-08-2019, 10:54 PM
Gonna guess Xavier Woods.

I'm sticking with Shelton Benjamin because he had that silent promo on the last Smackdown.

Anybody Thrilla
07-08-2019, 10:57 PM
Cedric!!!

Emperor Smeat
07-08-2019, 10:59 PM
That was an amazing Claymore Kick from Drew.

Sepholio
07-08-2019, 10:59 PM
Yep, clearly was Cedric with the over the top rope dive. He has a very recognizable form when he does it.

RP
07-08-2019, 11:00 PM
Wait. Gary needed that 5k, Cedric! What the fuck!

Anybody Thrilla
07-08-2019, 11:00 PM
But why have...

Fuck this. Fucking awful all around. This was the go home Raw? Jesus fuck.

Sepholio
07-08-2019, 11:00 PM
Hope Cedric gets a push now.

Evil Vito
07-08-2019, 11:01 PM
Did Roman eat a pin?

Anybody Thrilla
07-08-2019, 11:02 PM
Did Roman eat a pin?

Nope

Evil Vito
07-08-2019, 11:02 PM
WOOHOO

Emperor Smeat
07-08-2019, 11:02 PM
That might have been the most throwaway surprise reveal in WWE history.

Literally no hype or reaction from anyone involved in it including the crowd.

Evil Vito
07-08-2019, 11:03 PM
I was too busy watching The Miz talking mad shit after making Ryan Howard swing and miss twice only to give up a moonshot to him right after :lol:

BigCrippyZ
07-08-2019, 11:04 PM
:lol::lol::lol:

Even Heyman is too old and out of touch to save this garbage of a company, if he's even really "in charge" of Raw's creative to begin with.

Honestly, the only thing that can save WWE re: actually putting out quality content is a complete overhaul of the absolute garbage that is the current product, which means consistently breaking all the "current standards" that Vince has established re: "creative", and that are all based on his absurd stupidity and ineptitude. They're not willing to do that however because 1. Vince is too arrogant and out of his depth, and Vince will remain ultimately in charge, and 2. as a public company they "have to" continually appeal to "families" and be "politically correct", which will continually limit them from being good creatively even when they initially have remotely good ideas.

xrodmuc316
07-08-2019, 11:06 PM
So the whole show built to the mystery partner, with the big payoff being Cedric Alexander, a guy who was already an active wrestler?

AND they beat him? Lol what

RP
07-08-2019, 11:11 PM
That was a terrible RAW. That might have been one of the worst. AND WHERE THE FUCK IS BRAY WYATT?

RP
07-08-2019, 11:13 PM
lol Cedric Alexander. WHAT DOES IT MEAN???????

Sepholio
07-08-2019, 11:14 PM
lol you guys kinda crack me up. You expected Heyman to just push Vince aside and fix everything wrong with the product in what, 10 days? Are you guys kidding me right now? The situation isn't exactly something they can easily fix overnight unless they literally dropped everything, said fuck it, scrapped all their current booking and started over from scratch and that isn't going to happen. It's going to take time...and not just a few weeks. Several months is a minimum before you could even possibly start seeing any kind of serious turn around on this shit show.

Sepholio
07-08-2019, 11:16 PM
You have to at least give them time to end the current round of feuds and programs and get everyone going in a different direction. And time to build up some of the other performers they may want to use differently now, especially ones who have been buried or just lost in the shuffle.

Droford
07-08-2019, 11:19 PM
That was a terrible RAW. That might have been one of the worst. AND WHERE THE FUCK IS BRAY WYATT?

the skits have been off tv for a month

Droford
07-08-2019, 11:20 PM
the miz is pitching for cleveland in the celebrity softball game

Anybody Thrilla
07-08-2019, 11:23 PM
I've heard that a COMPLETE reset starts after Extreme Rules, so we'll see what next week brings

Evil Vito
07-08-2019, 11:26 PM
I would certainly hope so

Droford
07-08-2019, 11:27 PM
a complete reset would require all the belts to go to vacant

Stickman
07-08-2019, 11:31 PM
Figured I'd give Raw a shot after a few weeks of not watching. Terrible episode.

Anybody Thrilla
07-08-2019, 11:32 PM
a complete reset would require all the belts to go to vacant

Alright douche neck, I'm talking about a different creative direction.

Anybody Thrilla
07-08-2019, 11:35 PM
I emphasized 'complete' as saying it's Heyman's show for real then.

Emperor Smeat
07-08-2019, 11:48 PM
You have to at least give them time to end the current round of feuds and programs and get everyone going in a different direction. And time to build up some of the other performers they may want to use differently now, especially ones who have been buried or just lost in the shuffle.

Best case is the reset or new direction happens right after SummerSlam since that's plenty of time to tie up all the loose ends and build up new stuff on the side.

Worst case is WWE holds off till SmackDown's move to FOX in October to go in a new direction for real that isn't just tossing stuff on the wall to see what sticks.

Anybody Thrilla
07-08-2019, 11:49 PM
I heard next Monday.

Destor
07-08-2019, 11:53 PM
How do you breathe life into a show without new talent

Fignuts
07-08-2019, 11:55 PM
the fuck was the point of having a wrestler secretly under the mask if they were just going to lose anyway?

Fignuts
07-08-2019, 11:56 PM
Might as well have just given Gary a payday

rez
07-09-2019, 12:02 AM
Was RAW any good? I caught up on Stranger Things instead

Anybody Thrilla
07-09-2019, 12:16 AM
It was no good whatsoever.

Jordan
07-09-2019, 12:37 AM
Bad episode for sure.

Emperor Smeat
07-09-2019, 01:43 AM
The original "Gary" was revealed to be played by Kosha Irby, who was a former regional director of live events for WWE and former president of the Memphis Express from the now defunct AAF league.

The identity of 'Gary Garbutt' before Cedric Alexander filled the role.

Drew McIntyre and Shane McMahon spent the majority of Monday Night RAW searching for a tag team partner to join Roman Reigns in the main event of the show. Shane and Drew approached a garbage man, a man working in concessions and an individual named "Gary Garbutt" who's storyline job was a janitor at the Prudential Center in Newark, New Jersey. The 'Jackson Sun' published a story about the true identity of "Gary Garbutt" and Gary is actually Kosha Irby, who is the former President of the AAF's Memphis Express.

Kosha Irby worked for WWE for several years as regional director of live events.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Gary's making BANK tonight, thanks to <a href="https://twitter.com/shanemcmahon?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@shanemcmahon</a> &amp; <a href="https://twitter.com/DMcIntyreWWE?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@DMcIntyreWWE</a>... <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/RAW?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#RAW</a> <a href="https://t.co/ZyOKBSOV7u">pic.twitter.com/ZyOKBSOV7u</a></p>&mdash; WWE Universe (@WWEUniverse) <a href="https://twitter.com/WWEUniverse/status/1148414659994632192?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 9, 2019</a></blockquote>
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slik
07-09-2019, 02:39 AM
Fell asleep, doesn't seem like I missed much