WWE SummerSlam 2019

[rez]

Of course he was going to win with this special on afterwards

[slik]

Who does Seth feud with next?

Joe

Bray

Baron Corbin

Drew McIntyre

Bobby Lashley

Sami Zayn

???

[Triple A]

Show def benefited a lot from only being 3.5 hours (4.5 hours with the pre-show)... Really glad it didn't run until midnight

[xrodmuc316]

Brock Lesnar has lost the top title to Seth Rollins 3 times now.

He must really like Rollins lol

[Emperor Smeat]

Overall I think SummerSlam was a better show than WrestleMania 35 was.

Feeling the same. Not being 5+ hours in length and having way less filler in terms of quality helped a lot.

None of the matches tonight invoked the special feeling Kofi vs. Bryan had though.

Need some time to really think but still feel like leaning towards SummerSlam being better overall than TakeOver Toronto was. It didn't have any serious duds for matches nor huge swings in match quality.

[xrodmuc316]

Overall I think SummerSlam was a better show than WrestleMania 35 was.

I said in another thread that even though Summerslam had a really weak build, if it could deliver about 4 really good matches it will all work out.

I think they absolutely nailed it. They are getting on a pretty solid roll right now, here's hoping they can keep it up.

[James Steele]

Please don’t fuck up Bray (again). They need to hurry up and release that theme remix too.

[rez]

Are Paul and Bitchoff involved with the PPVs from a creative standpoint?

[Triple A]

Are Paul and Bitchoff involved with the PPVs from a creative standpoint?

Heyman def is but Bischoff doesn't have anything to do with creative apparently for now

[Tom Guycott]

Who does Seth feud with next?

Joe

Bray

Baron Corbin

Drew McIntyre

Bobby Lashley

Sami Zayn

???

His "mini me", <s>Mustafa</s> Ali

[slik]

Cesaro vs Seth could be a good feud

[Jordan]

I would turn Braun against Seth and go with that.

[rez]

Yeah. for the love of yeezus put a belt on Braun

[Sixx]

Read the results.

That thing with Goldberg sounds like a complete waste of time. Useless shit.

[Droford]

Overall I think SummerSlam was a better show than WrestleMania 35 was.

No

This will be one of the more forgettable Summerslams in like the last 10 years.

The Fiend stuff was cool but if they fuck up his character no ones gonna remember it 5 years from now.

Had an opportunity for a memorable match with Kofi/Orton but the dumb countout finish ruined it. No one will care about Brock/Seth 6 months from now let alone way into the future.

flat out nothing of major significance happened

[Mr. Pierre]

Wyatt’s look and presentation is just next level. Hoping they protect the character and don’t over expose it.

The Fiend vs The Undertaker is the definition of a “passing of the torch” - but fool me twice, shame on me I guess.

[Droford]

Lots of interesting stuff!



<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I’d heard earlier they were considering something with either Goldberg or Brock. <a href="https://t.co/s2PR7Qa1X5">https://t.co/s2PR7Qa1X5</a></p>&mdash; Brad Shepard (@TheBradShepard) <a href="https://twitter.com/TheBradShepard/status/1160655776773525505?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 11, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">According to a source in <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WWE?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WWE</a>, the reason <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WWE?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WWE</a> SummerSlam is advertised as TV-14 is because the show is “going to get violent.” I’m told blood will be shed, and also something big is being planned for the Daniel Bryan/Rowan/Roman Reigns storyline.</p>&mdash; Brad Shepard (@TheBradShepard) <a href="https://twitter.com/TheBradShepard/status/1160261541847031813?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 10, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">According to a source in <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WWE?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WWE</a>, a Sheamus comeback is in the works. He apparently feels great and is not retiring yet...fella.</p>&mdash; Brad Shepard (@TheBradShepard) <a href="https://twitter.com/TheBradShepard/status/1160650002336747520?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 11, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Samoa Joe and Braun both may be slated for segments tonight. Not necessarily a match for either, but their names are on the camera list. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WWE?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WWE</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/SummerSlam?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#SummerSlam</a></p>&mdash; Brad Shepard (@TheBradShepard) <a href="https://twitter.com/TheBradShepard/status/1160654414673264642?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 11, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">A source in <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WWE?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WWE</a> just mentioned the women may be defending the tag titles on the main card. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/SummerSlam?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#SummerSlam</a></p>&mdash; Brad Shepard (@TheBradShepard) <a href="https://twitter.com/TheBradShepard/status/1160665948531122177?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 11, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Rey Mysterio and Andrade are both on the camera list for tonight - not sure what they’ll be doing. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WWE?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WWE</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/SummerSlam?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#SummerSlam</a></p>&mdash; Brad Shepard (@TheBradShepard) <a href="https://twitter.com/TheBradShepard/status/1160670149420212224?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 11, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">According to a source in <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WWE?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WWE</a>, unique PPV stages are coming back, starting with Survivor Series. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/SummerSlam?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#SummerSlam</a></p>&mdash; Brad Shepard (@TheBradShepard) <a href="https://twitter.com/TheBradShepard/status/1160669198076514304?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 11, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>



None of that happened.

[slik]

Plans change!

[slik]

No

This will be one of the more forgettable Summerslams in like the last 10 years.

The Fiend stuff was cool but if they fuck up his character no ones gonna remember it 5 years from now.

Had an opportunity for a memorable match with Kofi/Orton but the dumb countout finish ruined it. No one will care about Brock/Seth 6 months from now let alone way into the future.

flat out nothing of major significance happened


Very grumpy Droford tonight!!



Highlights:

Ricochet had cool gear

Trish retired

Charlotte gained another (deserved) accolade

Brock established Seth as the most dominant person to beat him, repeatedly

THE FIEND debuted

Shane's reign of terror was ended

GOLDBERG speared Dolphin, who sold the spear better than almost anyone ever in history

[slik]

I would like to see THE FIEND retire Brock Lesnar at WrestleMania 36 (unless WWE screws this up before then)

[slik]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Imagine what <a href="https://twitter.com/WWEBrayWyatt?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@WWEBrayWyatt</a> goes through at the airport with that head lantern in his bag..��<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/TheFiend?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#TheFiend</a> <a href="https://t.co/wnIHfroMTv">pic.twitter.com/wnIHfroMTv</a></p>&mdash; Josh J. �� (@ItbeginsAgain) <a href="https://twitter.com/ItbeginsAgain/status/1160802261091651584?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 12, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[DaveWadding]

Need some time to really think but still feel like leaning towards SummerSlam being better overall than TakeOver Toronto was. It didn't have any serious duds for matches nor huge swings in match quality.

I watched Takeover a second time and thought it was better the second time. I think Takeover was still better, but it was really close.

[teamXtremist]

Seth rollins beating lesnar clean was surprising af.Totally epic moment

[Fignuts]

Please don’t fuck up Bray (again). They need to hurry up and release that theme remix too.

ahahahahahaha

good luck with that

[Sepholio]

is Bray champion yet?

[Jordan]

Natalya vs Becky **

A fine opener, better than expected but not great at all.

Goldberg vs Ziggler ***

Highly entertaining segment. Bill was like Bruce Willis in Die Hard, amazing character and I hope they push him through Elias at a Saudi show and have him on a winning team at Survivor Series to build him up against Drew Mac at Mania.

AJ vs Ricochet ****

So good for a 13 minute match with a brilliant finish. Finally the bout between these two that we needed. I'm sure there will be more, probably a ladder match or something cool.

Bailey vs Moon ** 1/2

Solid match both are really good workers especially Bailey but Moon has amazing spots. Solid for 10 minutes.

Owens vs Shane *** 1/2

Totally entertaining and well done WWE smash match. I enjoyed it a lot, it has moments that will make you laugh and moments that keep you on the edge of your seat. Great storytelling even though the Shane story isn't one that I love, they are telling it well.

Charlotte vs Trish ****

Probably the best match of Trish's career. Had some slow spots but only for a bit, the rest was so good and Charlotte is a brilliant worker... truly the female equivalent of her dad.

Kofi vs Randy **

Very solid Orton match, nothing spectacular except the spectacularly bad finish. I give two because they were able to do a decent 16 minutes but the finish was shit.

The Feind vs Finn *** 1/2

Tough to rate. By far one of the best parts of the show. The match was perfect for what it was, Finn was perfect, Feind was AMAZING. So AAA. But then the match came off like a NJPW struggle. Fucking awesome how good Bray can be. This gimmick could be the next big thing in a way we've never seen. He could be the baby face Psycho Clown type for WWE I think.

Brock vs Rollins ****

Awesome match, brilliantly laid out by the WWE agents or whomever. That is one thing about this show, the producing of the matches seemed top notch even if the build for all of them was pretty bad. Great culmination of this feud that has went on for many years. I don't mind that at all, the long term booking. Great finish here, cathartic moment for The Universe.

[Droford]

Please don’t fuck up Bray (again). They need to hurry up and release that theme remix too.

The only thing I learned today was it's Code Orange and they did Aliester Blacks song live at a Takeover once

[Volare]

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[Black Widow]

A buzz I wouldn't mind being on.

[DaveWadding]

Watched the Fiend stuff since Kofi/Orton put me to sleep during the broadcast. V good, but having Michael Cole awkwardly never shut the fuck up the whole time ruined the immersion.

[Emperor Smeat]

I watched Takeover a second time and thought it was better the second time. I think Takeover was still better, but it was really close.

After giving it some thought, the difference in expectations going in is what really skewed things for me.

NXT can be hit-or-miss in terms of building things to a TakeOver but they set the bar high for TakeOvers and almost always delivery in terms of quality. Felt Toronto didn't met those expectations and not because the show itself was terrible.

Meanwhile WWE was way more miss than hit with SummerSlam's build but I had really low expectations going in. Felt SummerSlam managed to met those expectations due to the show itself being pretty enjoyable to watch despite lacking the highs of TakeOver the night before.

In terms of SummerSlam and TakeOver history, would put both shows more towards the middle of the list based on overall quality and entertainment.

[screech]

but having Michael Cole awkwardly never shut the fuck up the whole time ruined the immersion.

He does this so often